So my mother-in-law is in from out of town (like really out of town...foreign country) and she will be here for a month helping with child care. I want to get an Android disposable phone that is decent and rootable. Prefer something under $150. After she leaves I'd like to use it as my "vacation" phone should we ever go over seas to visit so GSM supporting all bands would be nice. I know where she comes from I can just buy a SIM card to throw in any compatible band phone. Especially one that can be carrier unlocked.
While here in the US, I've love to load Google Voice and GrooveIP on it and make it a "Wifi phone" which doesn't need carrier access (since it works on my Transformer).
Any advice or suggestions? Am I asking for too much? I saw a few Android disposables for $200+ but a lot were $100-150, but I don't know which one would be best. Don't really care about the provider if it can conform to the things listed above.
Maybe you can try to look on craigslist for a used nexus one or some other gsm used android phone.
I'm not terribly well versed when it comes to the workings of phones, so I truly have no clue.
Before I go out and buy one of these expensive phones, I want to know if when Tmobile brings in LTE I will be able to use it without buying a completely new phone. I know that by default it can't use it, however, I read in an article one might be able to crack it so it can...
...and I know that they're going to start releasing LTE to the public sometime next year, and I want to be able to utilize that.
So the question remains - can you actually make it so Tmobile's version will run LTE?
Thank you!
I know people have asked questions similar to this before, but all of those threads seem to be from a while ago.
Does anyone know if there is anyway to get google wallet? We have NFC, why can't we use it?
Is there any other option to pay with NFC?
Thanks
Both Google and VZW say it's not our fault or we don't know, I asked a rep why they listed Google wallet as an advantage of having a smart phone but it wasn't offered and I got a non answer.
For other NFC VZW is part of IRIS which just launched but only in Salt Lake City and maybe one other place and it should be active on Inc 4G's there I think, it was part of the last update.
davidetkin511 said:
I know people have asked questions similar to this before, but all of those threads seem to be from a while ago.
Does anyone know if there is anyway to get google wallet? We have NFC, why can't we use it?
Is there any other option to pay with NFC?
Thanks
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wmuflyer said:
Both Google and VZW say it's not our fault or we don't know, I asked a rep why they listed Google wallet as an advantage of having a smart phone but it wasn't offered and I got a non answer.
For other NFC VZW is part of IRIS which just launched but only in Salt Lake City and maybe one other place and it should be active on Inc 4G's there I think, it was part of the last update.
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Isis tells me my device isn't comparable, I got the otb update at the beginning of the month. But it says I might need a new SIM card for it to work.
For anyone who wants to store gift cards like on google wallet or apple passbook, pass wallet does a great job.
davidetkin511 said:
Isis tells me my device isn't comparable, I got the otb update at the beginning of the month. But it says I might need a new SIM card for it to work.
For anyone who wants to store gift cards like on google wallet or apple passbook, pass wallet does a great job.
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You will need a new SIM, there is an encryption method used by Isis stored on the SIM.
I am coming over from an iPhone, so the whole NFC thing is still new to me. I am specifically wondering about the NFC on the HTC One (for AT&T)
I've read some articles lately and I seem to just keep getting confused.. Google Wallet, ISIS, MasterCard Paypass, Visa Paywave etc.
Basically my question is this: I have a Visa card that I would like to use for NFC payments on my HTC One. First, is this possible. And second, are there enough merchants to even make this worthwhile?
Whenever I am out, I see a bunch of contactless payment terminals (think of the ones at McDonalds). A lot of those say the words "PayPass" on them. So would this mean that if I use a Visa card that I will not be able to use this terminal?
I am just trying to plan ahead to the first time I try to use NFC to pay for something. I dont want to look like the techno-idiot that doesn't know how to do things and just stand there keep trying to use my phone.
Thanks for any help!
bwmcclai said:
I am coming over from an iPhone, so the whole NFC thing is still new to me. I am specifically wondering about the NFC on the HTC One (for AT&T)
I've read some articles lately and I seem to just keep getting confused.. Google Wallet, ISIS, MasterCard Paypass, Visa Paywave etc.
Basically my question is this: I have a Visa card that I would like to use for NFC payments on my HTC One. First, is this possible. And second, are there enough merchants to even make this worthwhile?
Whenever I am out, I see a bunch of contactless payment terminals (think of the ones at McDonalds). A lot of those say the words "PayPass" on them. So would this mean that if I use a Visa card that I will not be able to use this terminal?
I am just trying to plan ahead to the first time I try to use NFC to pay for something. I dont want to look like the techno-idiot that doesn't know how to do things and just stand there keep trying to use my phone.
Thanks for any help!
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You're going to be disappointed, and you can thank AT&T for that.
It's ISIS or nothing.
bwmcclai said:
I am coming over from an iPhone, so the whole NFC thing is still new to me. I am specifically wondering about the NFC on the HTC One (for AT&T)
I've read some articles lately and I seem to just keep getting confused.. Google Wallet, ISIS, MasterCard Paypass, Visa Paywave etc.
Basically my question is this: I have a Visa card that I would like to use for NFC payments on my HTC One. First, is this possible. And second, are there enough merchants to even make this worthwhile?
Whenever I am out, I see a bunch of contactless payment terminals (think of the ones at McDonalds). A lot of those say the words "PayPass" on them. So would this mean that if I use a Visa card that I will not be able to use this terminal?
I am just trying to plan ahead to the first time I try to use NFC to pay for something. I dont want to look like the techno-idiot that doesn't know how to do things and just stand there keep trying to use my phone.
Thanks for any help!
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With AT&T, all phones have to use ISIS for NFC payments.
Unless, you're rooted, and you or a generous developer has figured out how to install Google Wallet on your device. I have it on my GS3(AT&T) it tells the play store that you're using a Galaxy Nexus(Maguro) and allows you to download Google Wallet. I don't have a credit card to test it out with though But it worked!
TL;DR: US Carriers are douches, and force upon you their products.
1. Don't know, wait until it gets out to see if it works.
2. Yes--in fact the Paypass places can be used with NFC.
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any way to make Isis work since it won't work on rooted phone or other options?
Someone may eventually come up with a workaround but I'd just use google wallet, it's better anyhow.
When I got my g3 at the Verizon store, the usually pretty knowledgeable sales guy told me I needed a new sim for the g3, that my old vgnexus 4gLTE sim would work (yes, it did) but with that old sim in I would NOT have any NFC at all. No google wallet, no Isis, no bump to share, Nada. He said that is because the new sim enabled NFC on the Verizon LG G3.
He also said I would need ISIS, since it was going to succeed where Wallet had obviously failed. Hard to like Verizon, isn't it...but that unlimited grandfathered data...sigh.
I'm still using my SIM from my galaxy nexus and I have used Google wallet many times with my g3.
I'm pretty sure with wants goin on in Iraq Isis will be getting a new name soon.
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trent999 said:
When I got my g3 at the Verizon store, the usually pretty knowledgeable sales guy told me I needed a new sim for the g3, that my old vgnexus 4gLTE sim would work (yes, it did) but with that old sim in I would NOT have any NFC at all. No google wallet, no Isis, no bump to share, Nada. He said that is because the new sim enabled NFC on the Verizon LG G3.
He also said I would need ISIS, since it was going to succeed where Wallet had obviously failed. Hard to like Verizon, isn't it...but that unlimited grandfathered data...sigh.
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I can believe that a new sim needed for NFC to access the Secure Element, but standard NFC should work independent of the the sim (at least it did on my galaxy s3). Wallet only "failed" because all major carriers, save for Sprint, locked them out of the Secure Element to begin with. NFC Host Card Emulation, introduced in KitKat, solves this problem and permits Wallet to work on any phone with KitKat and NFC. Even if ISIS worked on rooted devices, I would not use it because of the dirty tactics it was born from.
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any way to make Isis work since it won't work on rooted phone or other options?
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Isis works if you install xposed with root cloak module.
Same here. I have no intention of ever running ISIS or whatever they change the name to. I use Google Wallet routinely and prefer merchants that accept it, including gas stations.
Works with all my Nexus devices, even the old Verizon Galaxy Nexuses once they are upgraded to KitKat via Roms like CM or Vanir.
root cloak then it is!
work like charm.
ericsmart said:
root cloak then it is!
work like charm.
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Yep, RootCloak is awesome. I personally use Google Wallet, except on small purchases since ISIS is doing the "spend $1, get $1 back" promotion until the end of December now. So a $1 drink at McDonald's ends up costing me $.08 (NY sales tax) haha.
tom1226 said:
Yep, RootCloak is awesome. I personally use Google Wallet, except on small purchases since ISIS is doing the "spend $1, get $1 back" promotion until the end of December now. So a $1 drink at McDonald's ends up costing me $.08 (NY sales tax) haha.
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right, we are cheap :sly:
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I can believe that a new sim needed for NFC to access the Secure Element, but standard NFC should work independent of the the sim (at least it did on my galaxy s3). Wallet only "failed" because all major carriers, save for Sprint, locked them out of the Secure Element to begin with. NFC Host Card Emulation, introduced in KitKat, solves this problem and permits Wallet to work on any phone with KitKat and NFC. Even if ISIS worked on rooted devices, I would not use it because of the dirty tactics it was born from.
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Verizon blocks use of the NFC secure element in the phone for things like Google wallet. There is a secure element on the SIM for ISIS. Verizon argued to the acc that they could certify the secure element in the phone was safe so they block it's access to their network. You can beam photos and stuff phone to phone....but anything done with it over the air must use the secure element on the SIM. I know there was a class action lawsuit against Verizon for this becaus they have a financial interest in blocking Google wallet vs making us use ISIS.
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So, the newer Google Wallet doesn't seem to require access to any secure element, on phone or sim, anymore since KutKat, right. The Verizon guy was just wrong, Wallet and bump to share would have worked fine with the old sim, just not ISIS ?
trent999 said:
When I got my g3 at the Verizon store, the usually pretty knowledgeable sales guy told me I needed a new sim for the g3, that my old vgnexus 4gLTE sim would work (yes, it did) but with that old sim in I would NOT have any NFC at all. No google wallet, no Isis, no bump to share, Nada. He said that is because the new sim enabled NFC on the Verizon LG G3.
He also said I would need ISIS, since it was going to succeed where Wallet had obviously failed. Hard to like Verizon, isn't it...but that unlimited grandfathered data...sigh.
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He lied. You might need a new SIM for ISIS because they store the secure element in the SIM not the phone.
Wallet emulates secure element now and doesn't need secure element on the phone or the SIM. The only real requirement is that you be running KitKat because touch to pay doesn't work on any older version of the OS.
NFC is built into the phone.
If you want ISIS on a rooted phone use Xposed and Root Cloak.