Phone got wet... Do I need a digitizer? - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

So I was on vacation about a month ago when I dropped my phone in a small puddle of water. I was in Central America so I didn't have my tools (and didn't know where to find some) to take the phone apart and put it in rice. So I put the whole phone in rice and when I got back stateside I took it apart and did the whole nine yards.
Phone has been working fine until two days ago, everything works perfectly expect the touchscreen. It is unresponsive! I've put it back in rice with all the parts removed but this time rice isn't working. It's rooted CM10 and I don't have TEP... or Sprint (I bought an LTE Tri-Fi and tether off of that and use VoIP for calling). So do you think its the LCD or just the Digitizer? Would it be easier to just replace the screen?

surge89 said:
So I was on vacation about a month ago when I dropped my phone in a small puddle of water. I was in Central America so I didn't have my tools (and didn't know where to find some) to take the phone apart and put it in rice. So I put the whole phone in rice and when I got back stateside I took it apart and did the whole nine yards.
Phone has been working fine until two days ago, everything works perfectly expect the touchscreen. It is unresponsive! I've put it back in rice with all the parts removed but this time rice isn't working. It's rooted CM10 and I don't have TEP... or Sprint (I bought an LTE Tri-Fi and tether off of that and use VoIP for calling). So do you think its the LCD or just the Digitizer? Would it be easier to just replace the screen?
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hold down power and vol down and boot into recovery, in there see if you can click stuff because it may just be cm10 bugging out on you. a simple rom change may do it, otherwise you either need a new digitizer or you just bumped the ribbon for it out of the plug on the motherboard in which case you just have to push it back in. if you look up a dissembler guide on the internet somewhere you will know what do to if its loose.
edit: also its definately not the lcd. lcd just displays stuff. all the touch recognition is done through the digitizer so don't blow $50 on a lcd if you dont need it haha

PhxkinMassacre said:
hold down power and vol down and boot into recovery, in there see if you can click stuff because it may just be cm10 bugging out on you. a simple rom change may do it, otherwise you either need a new digitizer or you just bumped the ribbon for it out of the plug on the motherboard in which case you just have to push it back in. if you look up a dissembler guide on the internet somewhere you will know what do to if its loose.
edit: also its definately not the lcd. lcd just displays stuff. all the touch recognition is done through the digitizer so don't blow $50 on a lcd if you dont need it haha
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Yea the phone is completely taken apart as of right now. Ribbons are secure and I've booted into Recovery as you suggested and nothing. Good thing its just the digitizer that way I don't blow 50 bucks!

You can try to use the test app if you're willing to put it back together and quickly flash a stock Sense ROM. Then open up the dialer and press *#*#3424#*#* it will then launch the test app and you can test the digitizer there.
If it comes down to you having to replace it, I really hope it's not glued on to the LCD like the EVO 3D was, some people had too much trouble replacing it and had to buy the LCD/digitzer combo. Best of luck to you

Racer Of All said:
You can try to use the test app if you're willing to put it back together and quickly flash a stock Sense ROM. Then open up the dialer and press *#*#3424#*#* it will then launch the test app and you can test the digitizer there.
If it comes down to you having to replace it, I really hope it's not glued on to the LCD like the EVO 3D was, some people had too much trouble replacing it and had to buy the LCD/digitzer combo. Best of luck to you
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Well see that's the problem, I can't even unlock the phone! All my messages and notifications are coming in and volume works. It just isn't responding to touch input. And that's what I'm afraid of, that it may be glued together.

I have a digitizer sitting on my desk because I cracked my old one. And yeah, it looks like it's glued on. If anyone knows better, please say so, I'd also like to be able to make this change, as I'm out $50 otherwise...

Robbzilla said:
I have a digitizer sitting on my desk because I cracked my old one. And yeah, it looks like it's glued on. If anyone knows better, please say so, I'd also like to be able to make this change, as I'm out $50 otherwise...
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That blows. Yea I think I'll just go with the LCD & the Digitizer already on, that way I don't screw anything up.

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[Q] Guide on Replacing the Digitizer

Hi there,
I searched before posting this, but couldn't find anything for the Atrix...
Just wondering if anyone has seen/made a guide to replace the Glass/digitizer for the Motorola Atrix?
As to why I'm asking:
(If the image links don't work, you can find them as attachments to this post)
I've damaged the plastic around the glass (basically the housing, near the usb port) but I need to remove it from the digitizer...
I bought this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=572442&stc=1&d=1303199913
But as the ifixit teardown guide shows...
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=572441&stc=1&d=1303199913),
...When you take the phone apart, the glass is one with the housing.. Has anyone done this replacement of the digitizer or housing, if so, can you offer any suggestions, and what you used as adhesive to reattach the digitizer?
I've repaired the iPhone 3Gs and iPhone 4 before, both ranking higher in difficulty on ifixit's site, so I'm guessing the ATRIX should be a lot easier...
Anyways, any helpful tips or any guides would be greatly appreciated. I've already checked Google but no luck...
keithgrobertson said:
Hi there,
I searched before posting this, but couldn't find anything for the Atrix...
Just wondering if anyone has seen/made a guide to replace the Glass/digitizer for the Motorola Atrix?
As to why I'm asking:
(If the image links don't work, you can find them as attachments to this post)
I've damaged the plastic around the glass (basically the housing, near the usb port) but I need to remove it from the digitizer...
I bought this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=572442&stc=1&d=1303199913
But as the ifixit teardown guide shows...
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=572441&stc=1&d=1303199913),
...When you take the phone apart, the glass is one with the housing.. Has anyone done this replacement of the digitizer or housing, if so, can you offer any suggestions, and what you used as adhesive to reattach the digitizer?
I've repaired the iPhone 3Gs and iPhone 4 before, both ranking higher in difficulty on ifixit's site, so I'm guessing the ATRIX should be a lot easier...
Anyways, any helpful tips or any guides would be greatly appreciated. I've already checked Google but no luck...
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Try this http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Atrix-4G-Teardown/4964/1
Or, this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbR56jSplRs
Broke my digitizer and did the job myself using the youtube guide above. Just used straight up superglue to glue digitizer to frame. I put a bunch on the top and bottom and very little on the sides.
Amazingly the phone worked when i put it back together... for a while until I screwed up one of the ribbons by opening it a bunch more times. Be extra careful with these, especially the volume/camera ribbon. You can bend it pretty easily trying to slide it back into its slot.
Good luck.
NB: Theres places that will do it for as little as $90 in case you don't want to take the risk.
http://www.ubreakifix.com/
Thanks for posting the youtube link. I can't even quote the post because it involves an external link. The video was vague on details and the quality is crap but it did the trick.
My Arix got under the tires of a car (please dont ask how ) and only the digitizer broke, then i replace it with an OEM digitizer from amazon and now the proximity sensor is malfunctioning (Turns off the screen when im not near it or doesnt turns off when im near it), and there is a line of the screen that doesn't respond to tact. could it be the digitizer that came defective, or maybe it was the installation? oh, the other digitizer was broken and all but the light sensor was working fine and also the other thing. Sorry for my bad grammar.
Metacat said:
My Arix got under the tires of a car (please dont ask how ) and only the digitizer broke, then i replace it with an OEM digitizer from ebay and now the proximity sensor is malfunctioning (Turns off the screen when im not near it or doesnt turns off when im near it), and there is a line of the screen that doesn't respond to tact. could it be the digitizer that came defective, or maybe it was the installation? oh, the other digitizer was broken and all but the light sensor was working fine and also the other thing. Sorry for my bad grammar.
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I replaced my digitizer, and had the EXACT same thing happen (not the light sensor but the line in the screen that doesnt respond to touch).
Get a new digitizer, but get it from someone else.
That's what i feared, did you changed it back again afther that, and did it worked? and thanks.
Metacat said:
That's what i feared, did you changed it back again afther that, and did it worked? and thanks.
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No. I sold it and let someone else deal with it. Didn't have the time to replace the digitizer again. Too much of a hassle.
I just replaced a digitizer on an atrix... i didnt put any adhesive on it because there was what i thought was adhesive strips on the digitizer... but there's strips on the screen that doesnt respond, i heated it n tried reattaching the digitizer a few times n sometimes the home and back button will work, sometimes they wont... any suggestions? could the lack of adhesive cause this?
Menu buttons problem
if menu buttons is freeze till I block and then unblock my phone is it digitizer problem ?
what do you mean by " block/unblock" ?
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He means lock/unlock.
Go the ifixit route!
Just went through 3 digitizers in my repair, and wanted to share my experience/caveats
I bought one digitizer from All4Cellular for $25, and the others with a 20% discount a few days later, for $20.
I installed
the first using the RepairUniverse Youtube 'how-to' method, and had a heck of a time threading the flex cables through the slot. Bent/twisted it too much, and nothing responded on the touchscreen, so I read some forum posts on how fragile they were, and regarded that as user error.
Got the idea to move the LCD screen from another RepairUniverse YouTube video and a previous post here, and tried installing the digitizer from the front face of the phone. It was still a delicate matter to bend the flex cable so that it fit through the slot, and then re-position the LCD and align the sticky strips of the digitizer on the LCD and casing. Part of the digitizer worked this time - a 1cm vertical strip on the left fowled any attempt to touch icons or use a keyboard, so I thought I had damaged things again (doh!).
Hoping third time was the charm, I completely disassembled the phone using the guide in the 'ifixit' link, since a digitizer/case assembly was suggested in another thread. The rear camera just needs to be raised above the casing so the thin plate can move upward, and the LCD pops out easily if the sides of the casing are delicately pulled. The digitizer can be positioned easily and with minimal bending/twisting of the flex cables.
When reconnecting everything the third time, I noticed that pressing down on the front camera / digitizer connection *with the rubber boot in place* didn't pass when pulling the connected assembly upward. So I pulled the rubber boot out of the way and snapped the camera / digitizer connection firmly, then re-inserted the boot. A loose connection might have been the culprit for the nonfunctioning part of the digitizer in the second test.
@MrSaba - I had the same issue with capacitive buttons - perhaps because the screen senses touch and disables those buttons. Replacing the digitizer solved the issue
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Hello friends,
Here's my story - broke a screen, as usual slipped from my pocket. though broken, digitizer worked fine. after replacement with new one (digitizer only) - no luck it didn't work. bought a new one, this time with a plastic part around it to avoid damage to it's cable. after careful repair no luck once again - does not work at all. downloaded a testing app (i was able to remote control the phone with a piece of soft called androidscreencast), everything is ok, except digitizer. checked and rechecked all ribbons and connectors 10 times, nothing seems to be broken or twisted.
what's your opinion, is it worth buying third one ? what part of my repair went wrong ?
thanks
drZeT said:
Hello friends,
Here's my story - broke a screen, as usual slipped from my pocket. though broken, digitizer worked fine. after replacement with new one (digitizer only) - no luck it didn't work. bought a new one, this time with a plastic part around it to avoid damage to it's cable. after careful repair no luck once again - does not work at all. downloaded a testing app (i was able to remote control the phone with a piece of soft called androidscreencast), everything is ok, except digitizer. checked and rechecked all ribbons and connectors 10 times, nothing seems to be broken or twisted.
what's your opinion, is it worth buying third one ? what part of my repair went wrong ?
thanks
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Not all digitizers are created equal. The ones that ship with the red stripe on the backing are junk. Spend more money and yes buying with a frame is key. Did you try reinstalling the original screen or did that ship sail already?
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jjwatmyself said:
Not all digitizers are created equal. The ones that ship with the red stripe on the backing are junk. Spend more money and yes buying with a frame is key. Did you try reinstalling the original screen or did that ship sail already?
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The first one was with the red stripe indeed, from china. The one with a frame came from UK, "used but tested OK". original screen is gone - tore off flex cable while removing.
Well, update...
2 screens bought on eBay were BAD. Had to wait full month for authorised motorola service to change the digitizer. Must say though that both merchants on ebay refunded, no questions asked. Lessons learned - pay more, wait longer, never give up
DrJCFitz said:
the first using the RepairUniverse Youtube 'how-to' method, and had a heck of a time threading the flex cables through the slot. Bent/twisted it too much, and nothing responded on the touchscreen, so I read some forum posts on how fragile they were, and regarded that as user error.
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What I noticed on their video was that their folded digitizer connector magically unseats itself during the disassembly transition. I had to pry mine off based purely on guesswork and think I might have broken the flip-chip that is stuck onto the frame with double-sided tape. Like yours, my touchscreen doesn't respond at all, despite there being no cable tears. I'm going to try and re-heat that flip chip and maybe get the connections to work again (doubtful).
To anyone else out there attempting this... when you go to remove the touchscreen, HEAT THE CONNECTOR so that you can gently pry it out!
Bad screen I got 3 before it worked its fine now if old one partially works new one doesn't screen is junk took mine apart several times to figure out screens were junk...guess they felt sorry for me give me my money back plus free working screen.from amazon
Also that lock clamp u mentioned first video I watched didn't show unlocking that I just pulled it out and pushed back in it was the 2 screen that I figured out it needed to be pryed loose by the white clamp but guess I didn't damage it..
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I have just put in my second digitiser. The first was one had a red stripe, which was junk, the second on I bought had the plastic round the edge and the digitiser.
I put it in and it worked fine no dead spots at all. Then 12 hours in it started to stop working intermittently. Then 24 hours after that while on charge its dead again. I reflashed notattrix and still nothing. I've confirmed all the ribbon connectors are firmly in place and everything looks right.
Any ideas whats wrong?
thanks
Jonnym

screen/glass replacement

So I managed to shatter the glass on my rezound....go me. I was wondering if anybody here has replaced the screen on the rezound and how hard it is to do. I didn't find a lot of rezound tear down info out there. I do a lot of laptop work and it seems like simular construction techniques. the only thing that has me a bit concerned is the whole adhesive issue. Using a heat gun to get the old screen off and I guess the new one will either adhere to the old adhesive or I need to find a source??
Anyway they appear to be 50 dollars for the part versus 100-150 to send the phone off to have someone else do it. Any thoughts???
While I haven't done the rezound yet, I have done a few others, the most recent being a Droid X. I ordered the 'official' advesive on the first phone screen repair I did but never again. It was hard to deal with...if you don't get it right perfectly the first time... you're done. I went with a 3M double sided foam tape after that and was SO much easir to deal with. Never had a screen pop off and anything like that. My wife is still using that phone as we speak.
Next biggest thing to watch out for is tearing those damn thin cables.... they tear so easy...seriously, do not use any sort of tension on those cables. One little tear could out your camera, or soft keys... or even portions of your digitizer. Such a pain in the ass.
Take care while dis & re assemb ling it, you should be fine. It's a lot more delicate than a laptop, so be careful.
I have never replaced the screen on my Rezound, but I have done a few other phones. My wife dropped her Dinc and broke the screen, then the digitizer went out on my OG DROID. If the Rezound is built like the Dinc then you will be golden. Took only about 20 minutes. But as stated above you MUST be very careful when disassembling the phone. The micro ribbons are a little forgiving but are pretty delicate.
Good luck though and let us know how it works out for you.
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Well I opted to get it replaced mainly because I found a local place that could do it and had the part in stock. However the one they installed has clear buttons instead of red, which I like more but I think its best to stay with the way it is suppose to look. Also there is a small black line that they think might be a smug. They are looking for a screen with the factory red buttons. The question I have is I noticed this digitizer registers 4 points and I thought the rezound did 5 can someone verify how many points of touch its suppose to recognize?
kappen said:
Well I opted to get it replaced mainly because I found a local place that could do it and had the part in stock. However the one they installed has clear buttons instead of red, which I like more but I think its best to stay with the way it is suppose to look. Also there is a small black line that they think might be a smug. They are looking for a screen with the factory red buttons. The question I have is I noticed this digitizer registers 4 points and I thought the rezound did 5 can someone verify how many points of touch its suppose to recognize?
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My rezound i got from verizon refurb only has 4 input.
my rezound has always only had 4 points
Thanks for the replies.

Replacment Digitizer Quality

Dropped my Atrix before i got me a casing for it.
I want to know how is the quality of the replacements glass wise is it still gorilla glass or?
I got my screen replaced at youbreak Ifix. The screen is identical, just be careful that it gets seated well or you will get a lot of dust under the screen..drives me crazy!
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If you haven't already bought one take a look at this at ebay,
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Motorol...052?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc340bee4 .
It is the digitizer and frame assembly. I just bought one of these for mine and I gotta say that I could not be any happier. For one it is OEM. Another I didn't have to seperate the frame from the glass or mess with glue tape. It is a b!tch connecting the ribbon cable back to the mainboard. But other than that it is an easy repair.
Oh, it looks absolutely brand spankin' new.
i replaced my digitizer with a part i got from amazon, big mistake, it was so much worse, looked identical but was just aweful, luckily moto replaced it for free as now i didnt have a broken screen it was still under warranty! good as new now.
edit: also looking at that post above, if you are going to do it yourself having it come with the frame would be great as mine didnt, so i had to use a hairdrier to heat up the glue holding the digitizer to the frame, real PITA
Yeah you're right ears1991, it was nice and easy not having to worry with separating the glass from the frame and then reattaching the new one. My phone looks better than ever. On the very first day that I ever owned it I handed it to my 24 year old son and he immediately dropped it. It put a nice gouge it the glass so until now I have never really had an Atrix that looked new.
JdgM3NT4L said:
If you haven't already bought one take a look at this at ebay,
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Motorol...052?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc340bee4 .
It is the digitizer and frame assembly. I just bought one of these for mine and I gotta say that I could not be any happier. For one it is OEM. Another I didn't have to seperate the frame from the glass or mess with glue tape. It is a b!tch connecting the ribbon cable back to the mainboard. But other than that it is an easy repair.
Oh, it looks absolutely brand spankin' new.
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do you have instructions on how you fixed it or a youtube video, and also what tools did you need to fix it? my digitizer has been acting crazy and I need to replace it.
yea youtube video called
replacing atrix digitizer
from Repair universe
problem is thwy only show how to *completly disasemble it
they dont show how to put it back together
ltdanno360 said:
yea youtube video called
replacing atrix digitizer
from Repair universe
problem is thwy only show how to *completly disasemble it
they dont show how to put it back together
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DONT USE REPAIR UNIVERSE! Horrible customer service, no phone support, slow ass shipping even tho I paid extra for next day (got it in same time as regular shipping) and gave me the run around when they sent me a defective digitizer first time. Took me nearly a month from order to get what i paid for and only after I threatened to notify BBB of their horrible service.
pre4speed said:
DONT USE REPAIR UNIVERSE! Horrible customer service, no phone support, slow ass shipping even tho I paid extra for next day (got it in same time as regular shipping) and gave me the run around when they sent me a defective digitizer first time. Took me nearly a month from order to get what i paid for and only after I threatened to notify BBB of their horrible service.
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The queen has spoken yea they suck!
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do you have instructions on how you fixed it or a youtube video, and also what tools did you need to fix it? my digitizer has been acting crazy and I need to replace it.
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I watched this video and only needed a small phillips screwdriver and a prytool. I haven't found a video where they show it going back together... Just reverse the steps and you'll be ok. The only hard part was getting one of the ribbon cables back in place. And I gotta say that cable was a b!tch. But I have large fingers and I still got it. So if you have some degree of patience and aren't afraid of messing with tiny stuff go for it.
thanks a lot. i just ordered from the person you suggested from eBay. ill give an update when it comes on Thursday and I replace it.
Cool, I just took my daughters apart, it is dead. I thought that maybe if I disconnected and reconnected the mainboard that maybe it would help. No dice. But I did find that using a pair of locking forceps helped a lot with the cables. Actually it was really, really easy. So if you have a pair, or know someone who works at a hospital that can get a pair, it is worth the trouble. Good Luck.
i just fixed, worked like a charm. and you were right, those damn ribbon cables were a pain. i can finally type regular letters again. lol.
That's great. Was yours pretty much new looking? Mine looks great, there are two tiny dimples on the upper bezel but they aren't easy to see. It's still a 9/10.

Out of Warranty Atrix

I sent in my Atrix a while back because of a dead spot in the digitizer. It came back with a new digitizer and seemed fine until the screen started coming up on the edges. It's almost like they didn't put the adhesive down good enough. I got tired of the screen coming up like it did (Felt spongy and annoying to use) so I got a tag from a shirt and stuck the corner of it into the mic and went all the way around until the screen was free. I put in little drops of super glue to hold the screen down, but I somehow screwed up the ribbon cable and the digitizer no longer works. I checked to see if I could send it in again but it's completely out of warranty. Is there any way I can blame it on them and get them to fix it even if it's out of warranty? Or am I just going to have to buy a digitizer and do it myself? Thanks.
BravoMotorola said:
I sent in my Atrix a while back because of a dead spot in the digitizer. It came back with a new digitizer and seemed fine until the screen started coming up on the edges. It's almost like they didn't put the adhesive down good enough. I got tired of the screen coming up like it did (Felt spongy and annoying to use) so I got a tag from a shirt and stuck the corner of it into the mic and went all the way around until the screen was free. I put in little drops of super glue to hold the screen down, but I somehow screwed up the ribbon cable and the digitizer no longer works. I checked to see if I could send it in again but it's completely out of warranty. Is there any way I can blame it on them and get them to fix it even if it's out of warranty? Or am I just going to have to buy a digitizer and do it myself? Thanks.
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Once you tried to repair it yourself your warranty was gone. Best bet is to order new parts and pay a pro to install.. unless you would like to try it yourself.
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you say its 'compltely out of warranty'... are you referring to the warranty running out or the fact you've attempted self-repair?
If you mean that the warranty has run out, the repair that moto did has a seperate warranty and you could try sending it back (conveniently forgetting your bodge job).
you say its 'compltely out of warranty'... are you referring to the warranty running out or the fact you've attempted self-repair?
If you mean that the warranty has run out, the repair that moto did has a seperate warranty and you could try sending it back (conveniently forgetting your bodge job).
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ATT gives you 90 days or the previous warranty time, whichever is longer when you do a warranty return / repair.
if your going to attempt self repair get a digitizer with the bezel already attached, I don't want to think about scraping the digitizer off that is attached with superglue.

Cracked Screen, what do I need to fix it?

I dropped my Evo LTE yesterday and it fell flat on the screen. No case and no insurance. The glass is shattered but everything still works. I sort of wonder if my screen protector is holding the glass together right now. But the touchscreen works fine over the entire screen.
Any ideas what I need to buy from here, http://www.etradesupply.com/htc/android-models/htc-evo-4g-lte.html?
You're going to need the screen, and maybe the digitizer. I'd personally take it to sprint to fix because its gonna be cheaper than what they are charging there.
If you do it yourself, prepare for a nightmare. There are things that the repair videos don't tell you and make it look easy. The battery is basically glued in, so taking it out feels like you're breaking it. Same goes for removing the cover under the glossy back of the phone. The camera kind of sticks to that and you'll feel like you're going to rip it right off the motherboard.
I went through this twice. Installed a new front half of the phone to find the replacement didn't work. Went through the entire process again with a different screen. Too much time spent doing this that I'll never get back.
Sent from my EVO.
Some kiosks in malls do screen replacements. I'm not sure if they do EVO LTE yet but my sister iPhone screen was replaced and works wonderfully.
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