What are the real differences w/ Verizon Note 2 vs to other Note 2 versions? And I am not talking about stickers. What is the differences in hardware, software and overall experience? And are they giving multitasking out the door? Etc...
JaguarXT said:
What are the real differences w/ Verizon Note 2 vs to other Note 2 versions? And I am not talking about stickers. What is the differences in hardware, software and overall experience? And are they giving multitasking out the door? Etc...
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Anything right now about this is just pure speculation.
Right now it is thought they are pretty much identical to Sprint / AT&T models, except for maybe multi-window feature. It seems like there are updates that have been rolled out/will soon be available by carrier and a modified ROM that is supposedly going to be released on XDA that has the feature.
only known difference is home button branding on verizon only.
tmobile and att have wireless charging contacts exposed on back panel
sprint does not
snapz54 said:
only known difference is home button branding on verizon only.
tmobile and att have wireless charging contacts exposed on back panel
sprint does not
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I thought the leads on the Sprint version were covered up by something.
There are some different pre-installed apps on the various carrier branded versions. Hardware is the same as far as I know, minus possibly the battery. I think carriers may also offer slightly different color variations as well, similar to the SGS3. For the most part though, Samsung has stopped making 400 different configurations of one phone and are making one phone and just changing the software around for the various carriers instead.
I'm curious if the Verizon version will be quad-core.
shuura said:
I'm curious if the Verizon version will be quad-core.
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There's no need to be curious. It is quad-core.
Hardware will only be different in color/branding, and any changes to the radio chips/firmware so they work with VZWs network. Other than that, all devices should be the same from a hardware standpoint. Software is where most of the differences will be, but most of the stuff should be the same as well, with only a handful of carrier specific apps being different.
Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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DJ1994 said:
Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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Where?
If it is a rep I wouldn't read too much Ito what they say. Without NFC that means no sbeam which seems unlikely
DJ1994 said:
Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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Are you referring to the website comparison? If so, Verizon already said that was a mistake. I second the sbeam logic.
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Samsung Music Hub is part of the features of Samsung Galaxy Note II (Verizon) Check out Samsung support site for Verizon version. The site doesn't mention NFC, but Samsung's support page for T-Mobile's Note 2 doesn't show NFC either even when that device has NFC. The NFC is part of Samsung Music Hub so you can "beam" music. So I take that Samsung Galaxy Note II (Verizon) as having NFC. And yes, the support site does confirm the S Beam.
agree gaminish
I think it does not matter much
GsmKenti said:
I think it does not matter much
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While it won't stop me from purchasing the phone, I have used NFC on my GNex like crazy. I love Gwallet and being to bump stuff over to my Nexus 7 and back. So for me, it matters a little bit
NFC is there on Verizon version. And there is a hack that gets Google Wallet installed into Galaxy Note 2 and running.
The main question is "When can our community find a way for us to get around the bootloader locked?", so we can root these babies.
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JaguarXT said:
NFC is there on Verizon version. And there is a hack that gets Google Wallet installed into Galaxy Note 2 and running.
The main question is "When can our community find a way for us to get around the bootloader locked?", so we can root these babies.
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Even if the bootloader is locked we should be able to get root.
SFBPro said:
Even if the bootloader is locked we should be able to get root.
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Lets do it! Roooot!!! All Smiles
The only hardware differences are that there is a cdma radio in the Verizon one
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I have strong confidence in the dev community to get root on Verizon's version without much delay.
RaptorMD said:
I have strong confidence in the dev community to get root on Verizon's version without much delay.
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I'm with you on that. There are alot of great devs out there! I'm sure root will be obtained very soon after release. The bootloader, however, will be a different beast...
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Surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but as far as I can tell, Verizon isn't lying about CarrierIQ not being on their phones, at least not the Rezound.
Mine tests clean. Completely stock, retail, s-on device.
The .apk by the discoverer of this threat is available here for those who are paranoid and want to check for themselves like me.
Haven't seen ANYONE with a Verizon Android device find it yet, but I would love to hear if any do. I'm new to Verizon, so I don't have a whole lot of trust in them yet and want to know if they're lying to us.
They may bake in their own variant or have another way of tracking, I don't want to speculate, but it isn't on my phone either.
They were talking about carrier IQ on the NBC News with Bryan Williams tonight.
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Surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but as far as I can tell, Verizon isn't lying about CarrierIQ not being on their phones, at least not the Rezound.
Mine tests clean. Completely stock, retail, s-on device.
The .apk by the discoverer of this threat is available here for those who are paranoid and want to check for themselves like me.
Haven't seen ANYONE with a Verizon Android device find it yet, but I would love to hear if any do. I'm new to Verizon, so I don't have a whole lot of trust in them yet and want to know if they're lying to us.
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The apk will only work correctly on rooted phones the Dev said in an article I read today.
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Verizon phones don't have it.
So maybe we need to stalk some threads of rooted phones. I read on CNET today this from HTC, "Carrier IQ is required on devices by a number of U.S. carriers."
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So maybe we need to stalk some threads of rooted phones. I read on CNET today this from HTC, "Carrier IQ is required on devices by a number of U.S. carriers."
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You read correctly. However, Engadget has been in contact with most all of the phone manufacturers and carriers.
Verizon responded by stating that "Carrier IQ has never been installed on any Verizon phone. "
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xRogerxC said:
You read correctly. However, Engadget has been in contact with most all of the phone manufacturers and carriers.
Verizon responded by stating that "Carrier IQ has never been installed on any Verizon phone. "
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Here is the actual Endagadget story.
Pretty interesting read... Another reason to like Big Red more than T-Mo. (Now... if we could only steal the Magenta chick...)
Wow If I read that story correctly all the big carriers except Verizon uses it!! Score for them and sucks to be on those other ones!!
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Wow If I read that story correctly all the big carriers except Verizon uses it!! Score for them and sucks to be on those other ones!!
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I wouldn't be surprised to find out the VZW uses something similar, but far more insidious and difficult to detect.
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I wouldn't be surprised to find out the VZW uses something similar, but far more insidious and difficult to detect.
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I agree. VZW can be sneaky!
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dabombcra said:
I agree. VZW can be sneaky!
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That's why I'm nervous. I've been with them a month and besides their network being tons better, I'm not impressed. With all the bloatware crap they put on this thing it's hard to tell what's what. I can't wait for S-Off and a good AOSP Rom.
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Here is the actual Endagadget story.
Pretty interesting read... Another reason to like Big Red more than T-Mo. (Now... if we could only steal the Magenta chick...)
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teases she just needs to do the.commercials naked..I wish this was England lol
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They had simular tracking files on the Incredible but NilsP always removed them in his roms.
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jbh00jh said:
They had simular tracking files on the Incredible but NilsP always removed them in his roms.
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Wasn't that an HTC file tho?
Yes, a HTC file on a VZW phone. VZW could have removed it like we did.
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There is a new app in the market that will find carrier IQ. Still under development.
Voodoo Simple Carrier IQ Detector 0.3 Works on rooted and unrooted phones.
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I'm not surprised, believe it or not, that Verizon doesn't use CarrierIQ. Reason being they were one of the advocates for Net Neutrality. As it's been mentioned before, all the more reason to like Big Red.
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I'm not surprised, believe it or not, that Verizon doesn't use CarrierIQ. Reason being they were one of the advocates for Net Neutrality. As it's been mentioned before, all the more reason to like Big Red.
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You are misinformed, Verizon is not an advocate for it, and has filed lawsuits to BLOCK Net Neutrality. Net Neutrality is NOT a good thing for end users.
When the phone is rooted the Devs can usually find the malware and remove it.
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still trying to get a answer
I thought it did but I just saw a spec sheet and did not see it listed so I am not sure now.
Yes, the antenna for it is in the battery door like how the blackberry9900 is. There are 2 metal contacts on the inside of the battery door.
Image 8 shows the contacts
http://photobucket.com/galaxy_note_lte
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Yes, it is in the AT&T version. It is not listed as a spec though.
All the new AT&T phones (the high end versions anyway) all come with NFC but none of them have working software stack. Basically they are disabled until AT&T sponsored ISIS takes off. So, consider the NFC as non-functional until AT&T has a change of heart.
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All the new AT&T phones (the high end versions anyway) all come with NFC but none of them have working software stack. Basically they are disabled until AT&T sponsored ISIS takes off. So, consider the NFC as non-functional until AT&T has a change of heart.
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Or until we have a canadian or korean rom that has it enabled. Both my ATT skyrockets have nfc enabled through a rogers rom
And it actually works? Which rom? I have seen it but have not been able to get it to work.
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Or until we have a canadian or korean rom that has it enabled. Both my ATT skyrockets have nfc enabled through a rogers rom
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And it actually works? Which rom? I have seen it but have not been able to get it to work.
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I'm using skyROCKeteer and it works. Problem is gingerbread doesn't have nfc push capabilities so I can only receive stuff from a gnex or icsd nexus s
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Anyone else find it pretty coincidental that as the Galaxy Note comes out that Google Wallet opens up to AT&T Nexus phones on the Android Market. I wouldn't give your hopes up, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
With all the security problems (two ways for other ppl to reset the GWallet pin on your phone, one requires root, one doesn't) recently discovered in GWallet, I will steer clear of that app.
There has been some interest in FM radio on the North American Galaxy Note (i717).
Word on the forums is that the fm chipset is in the phone but is not enabled, with some stating that it could be enabled through the hard work of a dev.
I propose a bounty for the dev that can liberate fm radio on i717.
My hope is that enough people join me to create a reasonable prize as I understand this would take a lot of work.
I also welcome discussion by devs or others in the know about whether this even possible, if they can confirm the fm chipset, and if this has been done successfully with other devices.
Bounty Pledges:
Unidentifier - $100
tunein radio is better.
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Felinos11 said:
tunein radio is better.
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And what if you dont have a data plan? Tunein Radio will be useless then...
Are you sure the hardware is there?
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Taken from the spirit fm thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296
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That's what I thought...
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I'm searching for clarification on this as well. Other posters in threads in this forum state that the chip is there just not enabled:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521016&highlight=fm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1505259&highlight=fm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22718914&postcount=19
If anyone has hard proof either way we can put these questions to rest asap.
From mikereidis, who's very confident there is no chip (willing to put money on it). Seems reasonable to me:
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Email:
To those others I say: "Prove it". I would be VERY happy if they were correct. More devices with usable chips means I sell more apps.
I have not ripped one of these devices open, taken high res photos and analysed them, but I'm sure some companies have, and some pics are likely available on the web somewhere.
But here's the preponderance of evidence:
- No device driver visible at /dev/fmradio as in the International version. And I'd bet the kernel in use supports that driver if installed on an International version.
- No FM app from AT&T, Bell or Telus, and when asked they will tend to tell you that there will never be an FM app for these models. (But you never know what some random customer service person might say.)
Note that some carriers, including AT&T, have mistakenly used International version marketing materials that mention FM and when that is pointed out to them, they quickly rectify the web pages so as not to face charges of false advertising.
- Nobody has gotten a stock or any other FM app working on them yet, and I know many people have tried.
- US carriers, especially large ones like AT&T have been in the habit of commissioning special versions of the Galaxy S, S2 and similar models that have no si470x FM chip, despite the Canadian or International versions having that chip.
Same with the Nexus S (Galaxy S variant) and Galaxy Nexus (Galaxy S2 variant).
I've "put my money where my mouth is" and offered a $300 bounty on several devices, including some of the above, and fully expect nobody will ever qualify.
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From mikereidis, who's very confident there is no chip (willing to put money on it). Seems reasonable to me:
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Any reason as to why AT&T and other carriers go for variants without the fm radio?
SkizzMcNizz said:
Any reason as to why AT&T and other carriers go for variants without the fm radio?
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They want you to pay for data.
It is not because of the carrier. It is a limitation of the chipset.
Felinos11 said:
tunein radio is better.
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Agreed. I use tunein myself. Its not a bagtery hog either.
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Agreed. I use tunein myself. Its not a bagtery hog either.
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I bought the Pro version it works so great...
I use a combo of AOnline Radio and Tunein Radio. But I would pay for an android version of Pocket Tunes.
The tuner is there just not active. I have talked intently with samsung about it. The quoted from the the dev that said it's not there states that the same fm chip from the International version is not there . The phone also has a built in volume adjustment for the fm tuner (attached). Samsung said "the tuner is there but we are not able to release any information about it because the phone is new and we may or may not be developing something for it that may or may not be released in the future." You have to love how the word things.
I'm at my gym and they got the bulls game on a TV using a radio station for audio.. this would be great to have!!
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I'm at my gym and they got the bulls game on a TV using a radio station for audio.. this would be great to have!!
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Get one of these
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I am sure that the lack of the FM radio on the Samsung Galaxy Note is not some conspiracy on the part of AT&T to get you to pay for data. It is almost certainly due to a lack of the FM radio on the SoC. My wife's crappy HTC Status has an Soc with FM radio chip, and on AT&T it is enabled. If our phone had that functionality in hardware, it would have come enabled in software. Unlike the NFC chip and tethering plan, software blocking the FM radio will give AT&T no extra source of easy money.
I'd really like to see the FM radio enabled on our phones... if it's there.
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I bought the Pro version it works so great...
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Yeah, I purchased the pro version too. I've uswd a few different radios, and this one is the best by far. It would be really cool if the Note has a tuner chip.
I currently have the Galaxy II on Sprint. Looking to get the Galaxy III and also possibly changing services. I know Samsung is going for a much more 'unified' release here, so hopefully accessories will be more abundant in the future. But I was wondering, if you could choose out of Sprint, AT&T, or Verizon not taking into account the cell coverage ( speed reasons are fine ( ie. differences in 4G ) ) which would you go for and why?
Is dev any faster on any of the services AT&T Vs Sprint for example, or GSM Vs CDMA? Do you really think the speeds are better on one carrier Vs. another?
Thanks, don't want to make a wrong choice here, and really want to get the device with the best support of devs and also the most 'standard' hardware as far as form factor for cases, docks, or whatever else comes down the road. I hate that SII cases are all different for all carriers.
Thanks for any info you can lend, hopefully I'll be picking up an SIII tomorrow
Verizon 4G LTE seems to be the fastest speed, but the bootloader on the VSGS3 is locked so that's kind of a big problem.
Thanks.. Yea locked bootloader is a bummer. I think I'm leaning towards AT&T right now. So is the hardware the same on the 3 carriers, like dock on attention works with sprint?
If you wait sprint be blazing fast after network upgrade
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RubenRybnik said:
Thanks.. Yea locked bootloader is a bummer. I think I'm leaning towards AT&T right now. So is the hardware the same on the 3 carriers, like dock on attention works with sprint?
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You know you guys have your own forum right? Yea they are the same hardware except radios
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If you wait sprint be blazing fast after network upgrade
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Yeah maybe in three years.
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There are enough differences and enough participants. Verizon G2 BOARD
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There are enough differences and enough participants. Verizon G2 BOARD
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Not really..... Pretty much any mod or rom will work on ANY varrient.
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Not really..... Pretty much any mod or rom will work on ANY varrient.
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it will? and how do you know?
But 2 are GSM and the other 2 are CDMA, so if a rom were to work on all then it'll need all apns/code for each phone in the rom. Just like how Hyperdrive and Axis Rom do on the Galaxy S3.
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Not really..... Pretty much any mod or rom will work on ANY varrient.
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This is a very ignorant statement to make. Verizon always has additional phone security (bootloader "enhancements"), CDMA and GSM technologies differ greatly and even the UI is programmed differently uniquely for carriers in many aspects. Verizon doesn't have the brightness or volume slider in the pulldown. An At&t systemui may work on Verizon device, but it'd likely break something else in the process.
I'm all for carrier specific boards.
hyelton said:
Not really..... Pretty much any mod or rom will work on ANY varrient.
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As long as there's CDMA hardware in the Verizon and Sprint models, this statement is inaccurate.
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I did not reply to that because you don't know how many times I wished it were true and I wanted that poster to live in the fantasy land as long as he could. Verizon where I'm at has the superior network by leaps and bounds, but there devices are ALMOST always slower to get advanced development.
Also physically the Verizon phone is thicker, buttons are smaller, and it has wireless charging. I believe the other 3 may differ slightly physically from each other as well.
Please separate boards
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Agreed, def need carrier specific -or at least break out ATT/others from VZ, as the phone hardware and stock software is different.