There are enough differences and enough participants. Verizon G2 BOARD
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big70tom said:
There are enough differences and enough participants. Verizon G2 BOARD
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Not really..... Pretty much any mod or rom will work on ANY varrient.
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Not really..... Pretty much any mod or rom will work on ANY varrient.
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it will? and how do you know?
But 2 are GSM and the other 2 are CDMA, so if a rom were to work on all then it'll need all apns/code for each phone in the rom. Just like how Hyperdrive and Axis Rom do on the Galaxy S3.
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Not really..... Pretty much any mod or rom will work on ANY varrient.
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This is a very ignorant statement to make. Verizon always has additional phone security (bootloader "enhancements"), CDMA and GSM technologies differ greatly and even the UI is programmed differently uniquely for carriers in many aspects. Verizon doesn't have the brightness or volume slider in the pulldown. An At&t systemui may work on Verizon device, but it'd likely break something else in the process.
I'm all for carrier specific boards.
hyelton said:
Not really..... Pretty much any mod or rom will work on ANY varrient.
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As long as there's CDMA hardware in the Verizon and Sprint models, this statement is inaccurate.
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I did not reply to that because you don't know how many times I wished it were true and I wanted that poster to live in the fantasy land as long as he could. Verizon where I'm at has the superior network by leaps and bounds, but there devices are ALMOST always slower to get advanced development.
Also physically the Verizon phone is thicker, buttons are smaller, and it has wireless charging. I believe the other 3 may differ slightly physically from each other as well.
Please separate boards
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Agreed, def need carrier specific -or at least break out ATT/others from VZ, as the phone hardware and stock software is different.
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Ok, totally nervous and anxious noob here. I had a question about the capabilities of the modem in this phone. My coworker has a captivate, and he told me all about the stuff you do here, and how he upgraded his modem to 4g. Is the vzw variant capable of the same? I've been reading the threads for a few weeks now, trying to figure out what to get, and now I'm just confused with the whole process, but that's a topic for another day.
Thanks.
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No.
The captivate can do HSPA which is all of the sudden be marketed as 4G (as HSPA+) but only up to the device limit of 7M.
That is one of ATT/TMO's ways of saying 4G.
VZN is using LTE which is different from their current CDMA#K which means phones can not take advantage of it.
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Yeah, no. The "4G" he is talking about is not really 4G. It's a fake 4G.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/comparisons/htc-inspire-4g-vs-htc-thunderbolt-4g-speed-test/
but wait......i thought if you put 4g icons in your theme....then it unlocked that super secret lte radio that came with the fascinate!?!?!
Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
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aaronDroid80 said:
Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
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So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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Thanks for the info.
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Its not really 4G, the phone works fine and as intended. If you want 4g, then go get a 4g phone from verizon(who has the best 4g network at the moment, forget ATT's crap)
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So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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Hahahah, this. +1
HSPA and LTE are different tech, just like CDMA#k and HSPA. HSPA has the same speed capability as LTE but the drasticly different delivery mechanism makes it a loser for these kind of tests.
LTE is the true future tech even though it doesn't meet 4G guidelines. Future HSPA evolutions are just going to be like new and improved satellite TDMA systems.... larger pipe for more terminals... but dont ldt ths customer know how many terminals there are.
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Musicmaster said:
So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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If I had my choice, I would've gone with AT&T for numerous reasons, but given my circumstance, VZW was my only option. Big Red has a track record of making things difficult for the end user (like upgrading phones). I love this phone, and the service is good, but it's a bit discouraging that I'll have to wait 2 years to get a faster phone when this one has capable hardware being held back by them.
Sorry for the rant. Basically, I'm anxiously awaiting the day when I can cut the bloat and let this thing fly. Keep up the awesome work, and I'll keep reading until I get all the pieces together.
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The captivate doesn't do 4g..the guy just has a theme that changed his icon to show 4g when he still has 3g. And neither phone has the hardware to run 4g.
At&t has **** for service...hence the REAL reason iPhone is with vzw now. I will never pay for at&t again.
Will the note run on the sprint network if i buy one unlocked? It shows it runs on their frequency but i have never bought a phone unlocked and tried to get it on a network that does not carry that phone in their line up. Will it work with sprint network? I want it bad but want to make sure before i get one. Im in love with that bad boy. Anyone with better tech knowledge than me please let me know
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If it's not Sprint branded they won't activate it.
That fn sucks
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Will the note run on the sprint network if i buy one unlocked? It shows it runs on their frequency but i have never bought a phone unlocked and tried to get it on a network that does not carry that phone in their line up. Will it work with sprint network? I want it bad but want to make sure before i get one. Im in love with that bad boy. Anyone with better tech knowledge than me please let me know
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Runs on their frequency but not on CDMA the unlocked phone is GSM only (att; tmob) so yeah, can't use it at all. Quite the shame, I would love to get me a Note.
lchupacabras said:
Runs on their frequency but not on CDMA the unlocked phone is GSM only (att; tmob) so yeah, can't use it at all. Quite the shame, I would love to get me a Note.
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So i could get it and it would be able to work with tmobile? I would go with them if i had to to get the phone. I was with them once before anyway with the hd2
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sprintuser1977 said:
So i could get it and it would be able to work with tmobile? I would go with them if i had to to get the phone. I was with them once before anyway with the hd2
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If the gms is the same as in the states, yep...
I think you're lost...wrong forum
Jaquarry said:
If it's not Sprint branded they won't activate it.
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Found that out the hard way a long time ago
Tmobile has changed a lot, they are just flat turning into thieves with a business license now. Never switch to a carrier just for the devices they can run, that is just plain not smart, at all.
I am not trying to be offensive, I do have your best interest in mind. With how fast devices are pushed out, there will be one that is better and what you want in 6 months time. So it doesn't make sense to move to a carrier for the phones. You will just get yourself locked into some contract that (Tmobile especially) keeps updating to strip more freedom and cost to to you.
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So i could get it and it would be able to work with tmobile? I would go with them if i had to to get the phone. I was with them once before anyway with the hd2
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Double check on the actual bands it supports; 3G especially considering the fact that tmob uses their own 3G unlike most other GSM carriers.
Aka it should work fine... BUT it might be stuck on EDGE at all times. Not cool.
What are the real differences w/ Verizon Note 2 vs to other Note 2 versions? And I am not talking about stickers. What is the differences in hardware, software and overall experience? And are they giving multitasking out the door? Etc...
JaguarXT said:
What are the real differences w/ Verizon Note 2 vs to other Note 2 versions? And I am not talking about stickers. What is the differences in hardware, software and overall experience? And are they giving multitasking out the door? Etc...
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Anything right now about this is just pure speculation.
Right now it is thought they are pretty much identical to Sprint / AT&T models, except for maybe multi-window feature. It seems like there are updates that have been rolled out/will soon be available by carrier and a modified ROM that is supposedly going to be released on XDA that has the feature.
only known difference is home button branding on verizon only.
tmobile and att have wireless charging contacts exposed on back panel
sprint does not
snapz54 said:
only known difference is home button branding on verizon only.
tmobile and att have wireless charging contacts exposed on back panel
sprint does not
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I thought the leads on the Sprint version were covered up by something.
There are some different pre-installed apps on the various carrier branded versions. Hardware is the same as far as I know, minus possibly the battery. I think carriers may also offer slightly different color variations as well, similar to the SGS3. For the most part though, Samsung has stopped making 400 different configurations of one phone and are making one phone and just changing the software around for the various carriers instead.
I'm curious if the Verizon version will be quad-core.
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I'm curious if the Verizon version will be quad-core.
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There's no need to be curious. It is quad-core.
Hardware will only be different in color/branding, and any changes to the radio chips/firmware so they work with VZWs network. Other than that, all devices should be the same from a hardware standpoint. Software is where most of the differences will be, but most of the stuff should be the same as well, with only a handful of carrier specific apps being different.
Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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DJ1994 said:
Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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Where?
If it is a rep I wouldn't read too much Ito what they say. Without NFC that means no sbeam which seems unlikely
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Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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Are you referring to the website comparison? If so, Verizon already said that was a mistake. I second the sbeam logic.
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Samsung Music Hub is part of the features of Samsung Galaxy Note II (Verizon) Check out Samsung support site for Verizon version. The site doesn't mention NFC, but Samsung's support page for T-Mobile's Note 2 doesn't show NFC either even when that device has NFC. The NFC is part of Samsung Music Hub so you can "beam" music. So I take that Samsung Galaxy Note II (Verizon) as having NFC. And yes, the support site does confirm the S Beam.
agree gaminish
I think it does not matter much
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I think it does not matter much
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While it won't stop me from purchasing the phone, I have used NFC on my GNex like crazy. I love Gwallet and being to bump stuff over to my Nexus 7 and back. So for me, it matters a little bit
NFC is there on Verizon version. And there is a hack that gets Google Wallet installed into Galaxy Note 2 and running.
The main question is "When can our community find a way for us to get around the bootloader locked?", so we can root these babies.
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NFC is there on Verizon version. And there is a hack that gets Google Wallet installed into Galaxy Note 2 and running.
The main question is "When can our community find a way for us to get around the bootloader locked?", so we can root these babies.
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Even if the bootloader is locked we should be able to get root.
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Even if the bootloader is locked we should be able to get root.
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Lets do it! Roooot!!! All Smiles
The only hardware differences are that there is a cdma radio in the Verizon one
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I have strong confidence in the dev community to get root on Verizon's version without much delay.
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I have strong confidence in the dev community to get root on Verizon's version without much delay.
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I'm with you on that. There are alot of great devs out there! I'm sure root will be obtained very soon after release. The bootloader, however, will be a different beast...
I don't get it, I keep setting people asking questions in here about international use when they obviously got it with no intention of ever using it on Verizon, what makes this phone so great that foreigners and even people on other us carriers get it instead of the s4 that's meant for them?
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Because they are crazy, cause we are locked down tighter then a baby pig sucking tit in the mourning b4 eating slop in a farm ..... Lucky I have mdk Im pretty pleased with this phone , but if I was them I would maybe buy the phone from a carrier with not such a locked down bootloader
hyperdrive powered s4
probably because verizon has one of the biggest customer base and best service whitch means more phones to be able to buy used on ebay and what not that is just what i think...and i think verizon enabled international on the note 2 and now s4 not sure about the n3 but not sure if other carriers have that option or if it is a gsm cdma difference.. or what or international carriers can only use vzw baseband
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I don't get it, I keep setting people asking questions in here about international use when they obviously got it with no intention of ever using it on Verizon, what makes this phone so great that foreigners and even people on other us carriers get it instead of the s4 that's meant for them?
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Verizon comes unlocked default and uses a cdma network + sim card
Which means it can be used on other cdma carriers around the world+gsm carriers
No other variants of gs4 can do this
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we are locked down tighter then a baby pig sucking tit in the mourning b4 eating slop in a farm
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michael3770 said:
Verizon comes unlocked default and uses a cdma network + sim card
Which means it can be used on other cdma carriers around the world+gsm carriers
No other variants of gs4 can do this
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Sounds reasonable, but I didn't know there were foreign CDMA carriers
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Hey guys! Soon I'll be buying a G2 outright. I'm on Telus in Canada and I'm just wondering if it really matters what variant I buy. I see a few different models available to buy unlocked and just wanna be sure there's no big difference for me which one I buy.
I suppose if they'll all work just fine, then I should go with the best dev supported model....if there is one.
Thanks for any input.
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All the phones in Canada are the D803 version but I got mine through Wind Mobile which is the D801 and came factory unlocked.
Software versions between the 2 are different as well but I'm not sure what is different.
I'm not sure if there are any major differences between the Canadian models but things I saw through xda are that my D801 from Wind is missing the 3rd mic located by the flash. I haven't tried it yet, but I read that this affects the audio zoom function by rendering it barely recognizable and/or useless.
Also, not sure if you would care (but matters to me) is that I am unable to set my D801 LG G2 camera to mute without rooting and flashing another rom.
Thanks! So 803 may be best then. I see just about all the variants available. So maybe I'll focus on the 803.
I'm really hoping signal strength is better than my S2. I gotta go outside where I live to talk or text. Lol
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kj2112 said:
Thanks! So 803 may be best then. I see just about all the variants available. So maybe I'll focus on the 803.
I'm really hoping signal strength is better than my S2. I gotta go outside where I live to talk or text. Lol
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The phone is good for reception considering I never get reception in the underground parking with my old any Samsung lol but my phone was ringing with this phone confused the hell out of me
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The phone is good for reception considering I never get reception in the underground parking with my old any Samsung lol but my phone was ringing with this phone confused the hell out of me
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Awesome! Really bad signal where I live....but my wife's iPhone 4s works in the house, usually, and my S2 never does. Grrrr!
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Can anyone confirm that the LTE bands on the Rogers D803 are the same as Bellus?
I may go with a d802....at this point there seems to be more development for it. We'll see in a bit when I'm ready to buy if that changes or not. But seems there isn't much for the 803.
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Can anyone confirm that the LTE bands on the Rogers D803 are the same as Bellus?
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Yes they both use AWS for LTE (Bell and Rogers also have access to BRS 2600, but TELUS doesn't).
I'm using D802
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I'm using D802
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Where did you buy?
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Where did you buy?
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I'm Chinese.
yyz123 said:
All the phones in Canada are the D803 version but I got mine through Wind Mobile which is the D801 and came factory unlocked.
Software versions between the 2 are different as well but I'm not sure what is different.
I'm not sure if there are any major differences between the Canadian models but things I saw through xda are that my D801 from Wind is missing the 3rd mic located by the flash. I haven't tried it yet, but I read that this affects the audio zoom function by rendering it barely recognizable and/or useless.
Also, not sure if you would care (but matters to me) is that I am unable to set my D801 LG G2 camera to mute without rooting and flashing another rom.
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803 is missing 3rd Mic too ?
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Can a 802 or 801 rom work on the 803? Just curious that is all..