Stock ROM faster than custom? - Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A

My friend bought xperia mini with stock ROM version 2.3.4, and i have xperia Live With Walkman.
with custom ROM CM7.2 FreeXperiaProject 150 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226715
and with custom rage kernel 2.9 for FXP. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24553704&postcount=75
So how the hell does she get smooth playing flash video from this TV site: http://www.navidiku.rs/tv-uzivo/tv-pink
While i have to overclock my phone to 1800Mhz to make it bearlly smooth...HOW is that possible???
I checked she had flash player 10.3.186.3 and i downloaded and installed that one but its the same thing...:/ i had Flash 11 before.
I can play Youtube video 360p smooth and around 1400Mhz 480p smooth. And phone is overall very snappy and fast, i mean i can play N64 games smooth, like Extreme G 2 for example...
So why is mine phone choppy while her is running smooth on stock 1000Mhz...?

1400...1800MHz are you serious.... :what:
You should not overclock your phone to such high frequency... It will burn down your CPU...

Echelonex said:
So why is mine phone choppy while her is running smooth on stock 1000Mhz...?
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Could be a number of things, but without knowing every app on your Phone, additional tweaks you've made/not made etc it's hard to say.

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Could be a number of things, but without knowing every app on your Phone, additional tweaks you've made/not made etc it's hard to say.
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I did not do any adittional tweaks, also, only apps that are running in the background are Settings and Lg keyboard, because i kill all the running apps when i reboot my phone to free all the RAM.
Also, as far as i know, you can overclock your phone as long as it doesn't overheat... But still, that's why i want to make it go smooth, i want to make overclocking less needed...

Looking at the kernel thread it appears to be quite old, try using the CM7 Kernel instead, make some tweaks and see how that goes.

Echelonex said:
I did not do any adittional tweaks, also, only apps that are running in the background are Settings and Lg keyboard, because i kill all the running apps when i reboot my phone to free all the RAM.
Also, as far as i know, you can overclock your phone as long as it doesn't overheat... But still, that's why i want to make it go smooth, i want to make overclocking less needed...
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Just to be clear, killing some apps in ram manually is not, efficient; it may really affect the performance (many topics/debates already out there). Try testing it with uninstalled apps (clean rom with minimal needed apps). And I agree many other factors may still affect it(scripts, tweaks, etc).

K thx. I will try out some other ROMs and kernels...hope to find something similar to CyanogenMod...I cant use kernel provided with ROM because phone is then loaded with bugs (no second speaker, camera freezing, touchscreen problems...etc) because fix for these only works on Rage kernel.

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A little overview on Custom Stable Roms vs Stock 2.1

Helo,
recnetly i have checked few roms and used for some time with stock kernel. I have tried Ginger DX, minicm7 v21. And here what conclution i came to:
Best rom is....stock one 2.1, no matter what features other roms do have still 2.1 is the best.
Why ? here is a lilttle overview what i think minicm7 and most of custom roms have better essential stuff than stock.
Advantages:
New android market
Battery life
New android version 2.3x
Flash Support
Better sound quality on video camera
Disadvantages:
Bad performance
roaming doesnt work properly (in some countries it connects to network in some it does not)
native thetering doesnt work
user interface just looks awful compared to original stock
Photo camera application (picture quality is just bad compared to stock)
Opera browser doesnt work stable
So i just pointed the things whom i think are really essential for a good rom.
Now a little notice about performance...
Dont be fools, do not believe that 2.3 has better performance than Stock.
IT DOES NOT
Only Quadrant scores are higher, but in practise performance is worse!
with same launcher pro and even less icons and widgets on minicm7 the performance is way worse than stock rom. For example if i want to give a call and open contacts i have to wait for a second at least to load contacts application, same with messages unless i kill all the tasks. I dont have this with stock rom. Another notice, if i use lets say Opera browser or Gameboid emulator and then go back to dekstop, widgets and icons always has to be re-drew per new. This doesnt happen on stock. Overal even with killed apps games on 2.3 are running worse then on stock 2.1 (Where is my water? Angry Birds, Gameboid, Snesoid).
So is it really worth to upgrade? I think no it is not worth to upgrade. Unless you die-hard need Flash Support and Video Camera sound. Then yes. For the rest, no i dont think so.
newestuser said:
Bad performance
roaming doesnt work properly (in some countries it connects to network in some it does not)
native thetering doesnt work
user interface just looks awful compared to original stock
Photo camera application (picture quality is just bad compared to stock)
Opera browser doesnt work stable
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bad performance - sorry but i do tweaks so mine is better than stock
roaming - dont need it
tethering - is there a native tether with stock?
awful interface - maybe but stock is well stock cant be changed
opera browser - mines doing great
I use MiniCM7 Pro V21 (By god Paul) on my phone and I'm just happy, stock user interface is so ugly compared to MiniCM7.
Only think I dont like is the Camera freezes sometimes while recording a video.
A Tribute to Blade Runner
After I discover XDA-developers ....
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe....... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion....... I watched C-beams glitter in the darkness at Tannhäuser Gate....... All those moments will be lost in time like tears in rain...... Time to die......
....Time to back to Stock 2.1......
Sorry, it's only a joke, all opinions are wellcome and very respectables but, after I read your post, this scene of Blade Runner return to my memory.
A little tribute to Bade Runner.....
I think Stock is best rom... No bugs + good performance(i dont think in games )
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Maybe, but on stock rom I can't connect via adhoc connection. I share internet connectio via notebook. And on stock rom it is imposible to connect on that type of wifi connection.
Also, I need ultra brightness, what is also weak point for stock rom.
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Yeah stock dont have usb and wifi tethering but in market u can find aps like EastTether or WifiTether.
And stock have best launcher for this device but I think this launhcer needs modification.I dont like this fact Only 1 widget at screen and no icons at screen.
Only corners
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I respect your opinion but I don't agree. Stock from is full of touch bugs, lacks dual touch, native tethering( works now with latest custom gb and ics nAa roms) . Also, we cannot remove some of the bloatware as it is attached to some .apk bundle and we could end in boot loop or even constant force close messages. I forgot to mention that /system has 20 mb only free so laggs are guaranteed... no apps to fat32 option. I tried many times to undervolt my stock roms with apps and .ko files etc. but didn't make it... stock battery life sucks.... gaming experience is cr4p.... I can't remember anything else cause I am on custom built roms many months now.... every opinion is well accepted.
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Custom > Stock.
Only if you understand well how the phone works and how to set the phone's settings and features to it's minimum or maximum performance. And also, if you managed to tweak the phone to it's best performance.
Else, Stock is the best and only option for you.
Also @ OP, those disadvantages you pointed out, on the latest stable custom ROMS out there, all of it works fine now. Except ICS, still has work to be done with that version.
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Stock is nice but i think the custom rom's have more advantages that cover its disadvantages.
As for me the only disadvantage in custom rom's would be the hopeless battery life.
Mashun99 said:
Stock is nice but i think the custom rom's have more advantages that cover its disadvantages.
As for me the only disadvantage in custom rom's would be the hopeless battery life.
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not really i believe you can use governors in custom roms but not in stock rom. thats why i have custom rom so i can use governors and apps to sd
Prefer custom
I've been using custom Roms for a very long time, now.
I must say that, even though custom roms have some bugs, stock rom has some bugs also. And it lacks some features, which I consider essential.
The most important is the ability of saving apps in SD card. I know (and I've used it) there's link2SD, but I needed to root my device as well. Link2SD was very unstable.
Stock lacks flash and some apps won't run under 2.1.
Battery life? The same.
Stock apps? Great looks, I'll give them that. But some are very basic.
I needed to install some apps that come with custom roms. I prefer to install custom rom.
The main app, to me, is phone/contacts. Stock app is lame.
Will stick to cm7-2.2.0, for now.
Sorry to disagree in every point. I have a x10 mini (not pro).
I couldn't find a single advantage on the stock rom over the custom miniCM7 (2.2.1).
The stock 2.1 rom feels like a slower CPU and GPU, it's sluggish and lags to the touch. I think the interface is OK, with the corner shortcuts and the bigger icons. It was well designed, but I always end up unintentionally arrainging icons in the menus and the corner shortcuts because of the lag. Applications are painfully slow, including the dialer. As a windows computer: when I fresh install (factory reset) the mini, it's fairly responsive, but as soon as I install half a dozen apps it gets sluggish again.
Bad performance?
-no, much better responsiveness and performance with miniCM7 even with lots of apps installed.
roaming doesnt work properly (in some countries it connects to network in some it does not)
-This one I can't tell
native thetering doesnt work
-stock has none.
user interface just looks awful compared to original stock
-matter of taste maybe. I like the new UI better all the way.
Photo camera application (picture quality is just bad compared to stock)
-Maybe in older versions? this one works better, and now I can have instagram.
Opera browser doesnt work stable
-It works fine here.
I am a little dazzled because, in my x10 mini, things are about opposite. Everything is just smoother with the new rom, and the old rom fails me exactly in the way the new rom fails to you: it's unresponsive, slow, annoying, glitchy. Maybe it's just personal taste, or something is different between our phones.

Why's my phone so laggy??

Just installed TUG ROM the other day; initially it was ok. I started loading some of my apps on it; I hate having a ton of apps, so I try to keep it minimal. I can't play any full screen intense game without some horrible lag. I thought this phone would be on par with my old Droid X (1Ghz processor, 512MB RAM); it would play just about any game I wanted to with no worries. Am I missing something? Is there some special tweak or script I'm supposed to run? With the SEMC Kernel (2nd one with wifi fixes) and TUG, the phone is definitely better, but still laggy. I have autokiller set to extreme, and autorun disabling all basic apps that are auto-running at boot. I was just hoping for more performance from this phone
RadRacer said:
Just installed TUG ROM the other day; initially it was ok. I started loading some of my apps on it; I hate having a ton of apps, so I try to keep it minimal. I can't play any full screen intense game without some horrible lag. I thought this phone would be on par with my old Droid X (1Ghz processor, 512MB RAM); it would play just about any game I wanted to with no worries. Am I missing something? Is there some special tweak or script I'm supposed to run? With the SEMC Kernel (2nd one with wifi fixes) and TUG, the phone is definitely better, but still laggy. I have autokiller set to extreme, and autorun disabling all basic apps that are auto-running at boot. I was just hoping for more performance from this phone
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Nope this phone is just too old for good games. Maybe they would work if You had no apps installed. I think playing on this device is anyway crappy because of not fully working multitouch

[Q] How to make phone faster?

I recently got android 4.0.4 for my phone. I used this link: http://www.arulraj.net/2012/07/upgrade-samsung-galaxy-5-to-ice-cream-sandwich.html The problem is that my phone is extremely slow and many apps just force close on start. How can i speed up my phone? I was researching this problem and many ppl said something about kernels. Should I get that for my phone and how will it help? Also, what apps help make it faster and what else can i do to make my phone faster?Btw the phone is rooted.
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I recently got android 4.0.4 for my phone. I used this link: http://www.arulraj.net/2012/07/upgrade-samsung-galaxy-5-to-ice-cream-sandwich.html The problem is that my phone is extremely slow and many apps just force close on start. How can i speed up my phone? I was researching this problem and many ppl said something about kernels. Should I get that for my phone and how will it help? Also, what apps help make it faster and what else can i do to make my phone faster?Btw the phone is rooted.
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Don't touch the kernel if you are inexperienced in such things you will just screw the rom up... go into developement settings and overclock your cpu to 768mhz for a start. governer... smartass v2 should be fine. use a task manager to kill background apps etc. there are many things you can do but remember that 4.0 has higher requirements than our phone has so performance will always be an issue... if u want have a look into swap partitions, cpu overclocking, cpu governers, I/O Schedulers, Caching etc... there is so much to tweaking performance to get the most out of your device
When I stop apps that r running, they just come back within 5 seconds. Also, i am already at 768mhz. 768 mhz has made it a little faster, but some apps wont launch and just stop when i launch them. Is there a way to get them to work?
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When I stop apps that r running, they just come back within 5 seconds. Also, i am already at 768mhz. 768 mhz has made it a little faster, but some apps wont launch and just stop when i launch them. Is there a way to get them to work?
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I really would suggest you change roms mate, either CyanogenMod 7.2 or 10.1
10.1 is Android 4.2 and 7.2 is 2.3.7
naturally 7.2 is fastest and most stable.
But why is it that some apps work and others dont?
How about increasing the ram? Can I do that?
Will this work? http://www.droidiser.com/2012/05/how-to-increase-internal-memory-and-ram.html
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Will this work? http://www.droidiser.com/2012/05/how-to-increase-internal-memory-and-ram.html
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You cannot increase the RAM like in a computer as it is attached to the motherboard directly. That link describes using a swap partition on the sd that acts kind of like ram but it is not ram itself, it is slower than ram and less efficent however swap can be useful. I have tried swap and noticed no real difference in performance at all but you could sure try it... just remember to enable swap in the cyanogenmod settings otherwise the partition will do nothing and u lose valuable sd card space
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I really would suggest you change roms mate, either CyanogenMod 7.2 or 10.1
10.1 is Android 4.2 and 7.2 is 2.3.7
naturally 7.2 is fastest and most stable.
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i'm using CM7,should i use CM10 or MIUI or still using CM7?
sorry about my english
Use seeder app set to aggresive, no need to oc just set gov to performance. If you not use any ramscript use romtool box go to memory manager try optimum preset. And also go to sd booster to boost your sd speed cache.
That's all Regards
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Honestly, make an effort to purchase a new phone. I've had a i5000 foir almost a year and sometimes I almost went crazy due to its slowness.
You can try using a (fast) sdcard as supplementary memory, but it will be still slow. And no way to use a CyanogenMod later than 7.2. Stick with this at minimum.
But you can find really good bargains at ebay. Please consider it.

[Q] Impossible game lag on stock XXEMC2

As the title says, I'm experiencing a lot of lag with Impossible Game on stock rom XXEMC2, odexed, rooted, with syiah kernel.
Strange thing is that when I dual boot on Slim Bean or Paranoid Android i don't have this problem and the game runs very smoothly. STweaks settings and DPI settings (speaking 'bout PA) are exactly the same. And I don't have this problem on other games (like for example: temple run2, GTA, NOVA and so on) which I thought were "heavier". Also when i boot on stock rom and open the games without waiting 2-3 sec as usual it just runs fine, but if i close and reopen it, it lags.
I've tried everything (almost), like overlocking my GPU (which I know doesn't help so much on 2D games), removing live wallpapers, closing all the processes with a task killer before opening the game, but I've achieved nothing so far, game still lags.
Any of you experiencing the same issue?
Try a full wipe and reinstall?
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ALready did, in fact i reflashed stock XXEMC to recover from a soft brick about 2 or 3 times. It used to lag even with stock settings, I only rooted my phone and removed some bloatware, then installed the game and it started to lag
Try MC3 .
jje
It's not a fix, I don't wanna to lose all settings and tweaks to have the same issue. BTW it runs smoothly on GB 2.3.6 with an HTC Wildfire S and on ICS 4.0.4 with a Galaxy Ace GT5830, so that's definetly not the problem.
Maybe you can try to turn on rendering 2d with hardware? It's in developers settings. Or you can also stick with custom rom, usually there are a bunch of tweaks for performance.
Already tried, nothing changed
No one experienced this?
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No one experienced this?
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No .
Personally i would totally wipe the phone and start from stock .
jje

Pokemon Go Performance Issues - Overheating causing reduced Frame Rate & Crashing

I'll start off by saying I basically bought the surnia Moto E 2015 (xt1526) specifically for an affordable way to play Pokemon Go. When it's working it works quite well but when in very high particle effect situations such as Battling or Evolving Pokemon it will start to get very hot and then eventually the frame rate will drop and sometimes the app will crash. I've tried a few different ROMs (Cyanogenmod 13, ResurrectionRemix, Cypher) and all seem to have the same issue. The only Kernel I've tried so far are stock and Squid Kernel.
That being said though I've had some experience tweaking and trying to optimize phones for normal app and multitasking usage but I've no experience at all trying to optimize for gaming. If anyone has gotten this particular phone to run optimally without crashes etc while gaming would you kindly suggest the Kernel, Roms and/or settings I should use for doing so? I've seen that were some good gaming ROM's for otus but those seem to have not been brought over to the surnia.
TLDR: surnia xt1526 overheats plummets in FPS and crashes while battling in Pokemon Go, any help appreciated
Update: After trying many different suggestions though I'm sure they did help out others they did not work for me. My phone's GPU was overheating up to 62 degrees sometimes in particular while many people seemed to be tweaking their CPU's mine was still overheating and crashing with those tweaks.
So this is probably a YMMV thing but what finally worked for me was installing a kernel that had some good GPU tweaks and the one I found best so far has been Inazuma R5 it actually has the GPU's lowest setting underclocked to 100mhz, with 400mhz still being the max and also makes use of adreno idler to keep the GPU cooler.
So if you've been having these issues I'd suggest opening up Kernel Adiutor after your phone starts crashing and overheating and taking note of the temperatures. If it's your GPU look for a kernel with adreno idler. If it's CPU then you can go with some of the other suggestions below.
Edit: I want to be clear that this is mainly only a problem with BATTLE after 30-60 consecutive minutes in Pokemon Go (sometimes also with mass evolution because of the heavy animation effects during evolution) So please specify, if you could, whether or not you've had a stable battling experience for extended periods of time.
Ive been using CM13 and squid kernel r16g and had been experiencing lags in pokemon go until i tried out some settings in kernel auditor. In kernel auditor under the tab low memory killer scroll down and select 'very light' and disable adaptive low memory killer(the first option in the 'low memory killer' tab) and now switch the tab to 'virtual memory' and scroll down to the last option and set the memory limit to around 460-480mb. Now under the tab 'cpu-plug' disable the intelliplug switch and there will be an option called as touch to boost, you just gotta enable that(this option is a major player in making the game to perform well).So just try this and see if this works, it worked very well for, i hope it does the same for you.
P.S. This may cause your battery to drain more as you set ur phone to perform more, So after you finish playing the game set it to default.
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Ive been using CM13 and squid kernel r16g and had been experiencing lags in pokemon go until i tried out some settings in kernel auditor. In kernel auditor under the tab low memory killer scroll down and select 'very light' and disable adaptive low memory killer(the first option in the 'low memory killer' tab) and now switch the tab to 'virtual memory' and scroll down to the last option and set the memory limit to around 460-480mb. Now under the tab 'cpu-plug' disable the intelliplug switch and there will be an option called as touch to boost, you just gotta enable that(this option is a major player in making the game to perform well).So just try this and see if this works, it worked very well for, i hope it does the same for you.
P.S. This may cause your battery to drain more as you set ur phone to perform more, So after you finish playing the game set it to default.
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I will try this tonight thank you for your response!
Can this phone run the game fine on stock firmware? Or have you only tried it on custom roms?
andrew129260 said:
Can this phone run the game fine on stock firmware? Or have you only tried it on custom roms?
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A friend of mine tried playing this on stock ROM, frame drops lags and crashes all the way.
Havent quite used the stock rom lately....just been flashing roms quite frequently, so can't really say abt the performance of this game in stock And yes, a must try ROM recommendation for all you guys, playing pokemon go, wud be slim rom. Flashed Slim rom yesterday and found it to be light weighted ROM compared to many other roms n that too without a custom kernel. I tried playing pokemon go while in Slim and it worked just fine without lags or crashes. The only thing is that Slim is based on AOSP/CAF so features r limited unlike other roms.
it works fine on mine phone with stock 6.0 and squid kernel, I think that your lags are caused by ram hungry apps in background
ive bought three boost phones in the last couple of weeks just for spoofing devices, all running perfect. I pushed twrp 3.0.2, official cm13, and that's it.
edit: here is the full setup i used when flashing and unlocking/rooting from my google drive:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx5gPVuLapkKc0xxZ3BfY081bEU/view?usp=sharing
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it works fine on mine phone with stock 6.0 and squid kernel, I think that your lags are caused by ram hungry apps in background
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I don't know I'm not really running much in the background just Gmail and Telegram, as I'm playing more and more it seems like it starts to overheat then starts lagging after doing battles for about 20mins straight. I have to put it in front of a fan and let it cool off before I can do battles again. So I think it's just a hardware issue. Unless anyone else has been able to do battles for more than 30mins without running in to lag and crashing
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ive bought three boost phones in the last couple of weeks just for spoofing devices, all running perfect. I pushed twrp 3.0.2, official cm13, and that's it.
edit: here is the full setup i used when flashing and unlocking/rooting from my google drive:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx5gPVuLapkKc0xxZ3BfY081bEU/view?usp=sharing
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Have you been able to do battles for more than 30mins straight with no problems?
Zellidon said:
Have you been able to do battles for more than 30mins straight with no problems?
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Yes. The only problem I've been having is I think my spoofer is getting kicked out do to low RAM every once in a while and I've got to reboot it. Everything else is all good. I really love these phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2015/help/guide-how-to-run-pokemon-flawlessly-t3429755
That guide should fix all the problems you are experiencing!

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