Just one year after, the Prime development is dead. Two roms have been updated a month ago and much appreciated work on them. But that's about it. What was once the tablet of the future, Asus made it a flop, A $500 flop at that. How poor, I'll never buy another Asus tablet or PC again. I had mine since day one and have no problems with. I wish everyone could say that.
Thank you for your contribution. We definitely needed another one of these threads.
Long live the Prime!
Yes, as said before, this is the problem with people who jump on these forums and fill it with non-sense, gripe and make an atmosphere of uncertainty and unthankfulness.. Yes, thanks for the positive outlook indeed.
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This is not true. lilstevie and tux_mind are VERY close to perfecting an Ubuntu dual boot. Think about it, Volume Up to boot Android; Volume Down to boot Ubuntu. That would be the coolest thing in the history of things. This is what I have been waiting for since 2008. Sooo... STFU.
Prime is dead
Mine truly is----at ASUS RMA facility for the third time since purchase
first 2 times wif-bluetooth issue in shop for 1.5 months
this time green camera
Truly a 500$ 650 if you count the dock peice of c***
There are very few primes around in my country so i don't care if its dead, i have a special device and its working perfectly.
But i think my next tablet (i hope the prime works for a long time) will be one with a digitizer for pens. Like the galaxy note 10.1. In my situation i prefer that over a keyboard.
Long live the prime.
I've had mine since day one. Never had reason to complain about it at all. Two friends have bought them after seeing mine. Still use it every day. I wish I had two.
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I really like mine it replaced my laptop ... i also like the build quality. Samsung plastics are not my kind of thing. Drawbacks are wifi performance and the system to connect tablet and keyboard could use some rethinking.
wifi performance
Thom4s said:
I really like mine it replaced my laptop ... i also like the build quality. Samsung plastics are not my kind of thing. Drawbacks are wifi performance and the system to connect tablet and keyboard could use some rethinking.
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I too had WIFI problems but since I purchased a MyFi (3G 4G) from Verizon I get 4 Bars where ever I go in my area.
andrewjt19 said:
Yes, as said before, this is the problem with people who jump on these forums and fill it with non-sense, gripe and make an atmosphere of uncertainty and unthankfulness.. Yes, thanks for the positive outlook indeed.
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This person is entitled to their oppinion, and has valid points, just because you do not agree doesnt give you the right to be critical or condescending.
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I think that the Development is very slow mostly because around a 50% of users have their Bootloader locked, so lots of people couldn't use other roms, kernels or mods (and of course if a user wants to start a develop and has it's Prime locked, simply he can't).
I bought the tf201 a month ago because I didn't know anything about Bootloader, I thought that I could flash a kernel for OC or something similar. I try to unlock and I couldn't, and now I'm happy with it, because my tf201 died a week ago. When it returns from the RMA, I'll try to sell it. That's all, and this is the last ASUS tablet I'll buy.
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Just one year after, the Prime development is dead. Two roms have been updated a month ago and much appreciated work on them. But that's about it. What was once the tablet of the future, Asus made it a flop, A $500 flop at that. How poor, I'll never buy another Asus tablet or PC again. I had mine since day one and have no problems with. I wish everyone could say that.
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I find it interesting as to how much people are influenced by the opinions and experiences of others. In one breath you say you'll never buy another Asus tablet again and in the next you say you've had your Prime for over a year and have had no problems with it.
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I find it interesting as to how much people are influenced by the opinions and experiences of others. In one breath you say you'll never buy another Asus tablet again and in the next you say you've had your Prime for over a year and have had no problems with it.
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Let me help you out a little, jordache. I'm quite happy with my Prime. I've not had problems with it. I have several Wireless APs at my home, so it's saturated with signal. As a result, I've not had problems with the wifi. I've chosen not to Root or Unlock my Prime, so I've not had the headaches there that others have had. As the features go (HDMI, Micro-SD, SD, USB, additional battery in keyboard dock), the Prime is top notch. I'd still take it over an iPad any day of the week.
Having said all of that, Asus's post-sale hardware support is terrible. So terrible that I probably won't buy another Asus product. I managed to lose a couple of rubber feet on the dock. When I inquired about getting some replacement feet, Asus wanted me to do an RMA on the dock. I'm not impressed.
randalltroy said:
This person is entitled to their oppinion, and has valid points, just because you do not agree doesnt give you the right to be critical or condescending.
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The original post in this thread is the equivalent to someone standing up in the middle of a conference on economics and yelling "I LIKE BANANAS".
Sure, they have every right to like bananas, but it isn't helpful, it's attention-seeking and is essentially pointless.
Go eat bananas if you like them. No one cares.
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I find it interesting as to how much people are influenced by the opinions and experiences of others. In one breath you say you'll never buy another Asus tablet again and in the next you say you've had your Prime for over a year and have had no problems with it.
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That is correct because my bluetooth sucks, my wireless sucks and should be much better than it is. No other issues besides that. I was just stating a fact that there is not much development for the tablet anymore. That's all I was saying, take it the way you wish but we are all allowed opinions here. thank you
The truth of the matter IMO is that people have come to expect too much. It's the "where's my update" syndrome where people want something new ever other week. Things evolve so fast that yes, a one year old device is practically ancient history. And Asus supported this device for much longer and through many more updates than most other manufacturers do. Take my Motorola Droid 3....please! Seriously my Droid 3 was abandoned by Motorola almost as soon as it was released. My original Droid Came with Android 2.0 then it got 2.1 and 2.2 from Motorola and then 2.3.7 via Cyanogen Mod 7.2 but once on 2.x, always on 2.x. On the other hand on the Prime we went from 3.x to 4.0 to 4.1 and will probably see 4.2 which is really not bad at all. It should also be capable of running future versions of custom ROMs....if the developers keep working on it. But really we have to expect that they will eventually move on too. But these days a year is almost an eternity for a mobile device.
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The original post in this thread is the equivalent to someone standing up in the middle of a conference on economics and yelling "I LIKE BANANAS".
Sure, they have every right to like bananas, but it isn't helpful, it's attention-seeking and is essentially pointless.
Go eat bananas if you like them. No one cares.
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Yes and another no brain response. I was just stating a fact.. don't like tough sh*t. I love my Prime, if I didn't I would have sold it long ago for something better. I was just stating that development has slowed down to a halt.. nothing to do with bananas !. Gezzzz
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Yes and another no brain response. I was just stating a fact.. don't like tough sh*t. I love my Prime, if I didn't I would have sold it long ago for something better. I was just stating that development has slowed down to a halt.. nothing to do with bananas !. Gezzzz
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I don't see it so much as slowing down, more like we have got to the limits of what we can achieve with what we have.
When 4.2 arrives I'm sure you will see some more dev work going on and also there is cyanogenmod which updates nightly if you really want to update regularly.
There is only so much you can do based on the stock rom.
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Yes and another no brain response. I was just stating a fact.. don't like tough sh*t. I love my Prime, if I didn't I would have sold it long ago for something better. I was just stating that development has slowed down to a halt.. nothing to do with bananas !. Gezzzz
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So lets get this straight, you "love" your Prime but you will not be buying another Asus product again. Can you please explain?
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I am a noobie so please pardon my ignorance. This is my first tablet. It was my Christmas. I have read many posts here and tried to find answers about my problems. My GPS doen't work and it reboots a lot. Wifi is slow, but usable. some people say Asus will fix it but they said GPS is not supposed to work. My friend has a Samsung tablet and his works. I'm getting worried.
Other people say it is great, but maybe I just don't understand. The great thing I see is the water splashing on the screen in Riptide. I'd rather have GPS like my friend. Is it normal to buy a tablet and then find out it does not do what it is supposed to do and have so many problems? Is there really something better coming out soon? I don't like mine but would if everything worked good.
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I am a noobie so please pardon my ignorance. This is my first tablet. It was my Christmas. I have read many posts here and tried to find answers about my problems. My GPS doen't work and it reboots a lot. Wifi is slow, but usable. some people say Asus will fix it but they said GPS is not supposed to work. My friend has a Samsung tablet and his works. I'm getting worried.
Other people say it is great, but maybe I just don't understand. The great thing I see is the water splashing on the screen in Riptide. I'd rather have GPS like my friend. Is it normal to buy a tablet and then find out it does not do what it is supposed to do and have so many problems? Is there really something better coming out soon? I don't like mine but would if everything worked good.
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Are you even old enough to drive?
tsata said:
I am a noobie so please pardon my ignorance. This is my first tablet. It was my Christmas. I have read many posts here and tried to find answers about my problems. My GPS doen't work and it reboots a lot. Wifi is slow, but usable. some people say Asus will fix it but they said GPS is not supposed to work. My friend has a Samsung tablet and his works. I'm getting worried.
Other people say it is great, but maybe I just don't understand. The great thing I see is the water splashing on the screen in Riptide. I'd rather have GPS like my friend. Is it normal to buy a tablet and then find out it does not do what it is supposed to do and have so many problems? Is there really something better coming out soon? I don't like mine but would if everything worked good.
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Did your Prime come with ICS (The latest Android software)? If it did not and you had to update the tablet once you brought it home, doing a factory reset might do the trick to help solve your problems. Just a thought.
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tsata said:
I am a noobie so please pardon my ignorance. This is my first tablet. It was my Christmas. I have read many posts here and tried to find answers about my problems. My GPS doen't work and it reboots a lot. Wifi is slow, but usable. some people say Asus will fix it but they said GPS is not supposed to work. My friend has a Samsung tablet and his works. I'm getting worried.
Other people say it is great, but maybe I just don't understand. The great thing I see is the water splashing on the screen in Riptide. I'd rather have GPS like my friend. Is it normal to buy a tablet and then find out it does not do what it is supposed to do and have so many problems? Is there really something better coming out soon? I don't like mine but would if everything worked good.
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Best to return it and get a full refund there will be a better one coming out. WiFi and GPS are supposed to be addressed in the newer Prime TF700T plus it has a better screen.
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Best to return it and get a full refund there will be a better one coming out. WiFi and GPS are supposed to be addressed in the newer Prime TF700T plus it has a better screen.
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You neglected to mention you won't see it on store shelves for a least the best part of 5-6 months.
jdbaker82 said:
Are you even old enough to drive?
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Are you trying to be funny or just rude. What does driving have to do with it.
I found you in other posts. You are the one that said
"Also just got off the phone with the ASUS Engineering department and they are aware that the backing is whats causing the issue with the GPS signal I finally got to speak with an engineer after jumping through 100 hoops and explaining to them that I disassembled one of the Primes and it locked onto a GPS signal and navigated from point A to point B with no problems with the backing off of it."
I don't think it would operate while disassembled, from the pictures of the tear down. So, you're probably not much help if you're not telling the truth.
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You neglected to mention you won't see it on store shelves for a least the best part of 5-6 months.
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yeah not only 5 - 6 months but it will be 100 pounds more expensive when it does come out
Thank you everyone for trying to help. I've done the updates and resets but it didn't fix anything. I will have to return it soon before it is too late. I think I had rather wait for a better one or have something slower and not as pretty that works.
Hello newbie you came to the wrong forum, this forum is not gonna help you with anything,you come here only if you
1- complaint
2- write negative stuff
3- Tell everybody that you are returning your prime
4-That ASUS is the worst company in the world
5-Never ask for help,JUST COMPLAINT
6-If you don't own the prime you complaint even harder
7- YOU ARE TROLL
8-WRITE NONSENSE
If you don't do any of the above you will be laugh at as you are seeing
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You neglected to mention you won't see it on store shelves for a least the best part of 5-6 months.
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TF700T comes out Q2
Q2 is April, May, June
Thats also how long before complete interest is lost in the TF201 as it will be obsolete as a mid range product. Its a far better option to get the better TF700T also it will be the flagship model.
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TF700T comes out Q2
Q2 is April, May, June
Thats also how long before complete interest is lost in the TF201 as it will be obsolete as a mid range product. Its a far better option to get the better TF700T also it will be the flagship model.
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We get it, you don't like the 201 , firstly it will not be obsolete as its part of the prime range with the TF700. Asus have said this. How long do you expect it it stay the flagship model?. I can buy the 201 now for £500. You are going to wait at least 4 months with no tablet only to pay £600 after everyone else has had theirs for months. Of course its only a minor update really, still just a tegra 3 tablet and tegra 4 will be out 2 to 5 months after the TF700. So expect the transformer 3 within 6 months of the TF700. Yeah your super flagship model won't be flagship for long and chances are the transformer 3 will be quite a big spec jump
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TF700T comes out Q2
Q2 is April, May, June
Thats also how long before complete interest is lost in the TF201 as it will be obsolete as a mid range product. Its a far better option to get the better TF700T also it will be the flagship model.
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It's been stated that release date is the ass end of Q2 i.e June. Even then it won't be widely available and going by ASUS' track record there will be delays.
They released this tablet knowing it had issues, they rushed this tablet to the market and most of us feel cheated! Where is the "Persistent Perfection"? It is their company motto! We need to do this to get them to realize their mistakes!
We can all agree that this tablet is plagued with issues, Big or Small; Noticeable or Not; Software or Hardware; Customer Support or Communication.
Known issues we need to stand up for! Whether you experience them or not!:
BLUETOOTH INCOMPATIBLE WITH WIFI!
WEAK/SLOW WIFI!
GPS NON FUNCTIONING!
SCREEN BLEED!
MELTING/OVERHEATING CHARGERS
UNKNOWN SERIAL #'s!
RANDOM LOCKUPS/REBOOTS!
LESS THAN ACCEPTABLE SUPPORT!
HORRIBLE QUALITY CONTROL!
TERRIBLE RMA EXPERIENCES!
DEAD PIXELS!
DUST UNDER YOUR SCREEN!
ETC!
Then to top it all off they are now dedicating all their resources to multiple new tablets (7000t 3000t, 3g prime, Memo, and the Padphone), instead of doing what is right and fixing the first one!
THE GOAL IS TO ATTACK UNTIL THEY RELEASE SOME SORT OF REPLACEMENT/REFUND/EXCHANGE PROGRAM!
We need YOU to Tweet, Comment, and Sign the Petition
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
Comment!
Comment their other pages!
Twitter!
Sign the Petition! ( I need someone to write up a really good petition letter that gets sent to 16 different emails each time someone signs the petition! PM me it and post in here!)
TWEET Something Along the Lines of THIS!
@Asus FIX OUR TABLETS! Where is the "Persistent Perfection"? Where is the Quality control? #transformerprime #liar http://bit.ly/xZseum
WE HAVE WON THIS WAR BEFORE!
I really hope you're trolling or you're a sad little dude...
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I really hope you're trolling or you're a sad little dude...
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No this is serious!
The last operation worked! its getting us the boot loader unlock tool!
Is this the official kick off World?
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You need to learn how to approach companies like asus on problems... this is just rude and disrespectful. I'm an "unhappy" customer but I'm not going to act like you.
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Is this the official kick off World?
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HUH? lol?
This thread is not to be laughed at! just because you are not experiencing issues doesnt mean the first 150k primes sold are not!
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You need to learn how to approach companies like asus on problems... this is just rude and disrespectful. I'm an "unhappy" customer but I'm not going to act like you.
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IT WORKED WITH THE BOOTLOADER!
You guys obviously where not here for that! got a response from asus within 48 hours
In some way I don't think it was mostly their falt but ours since we were already rushing them. They did delay the sales because of the quality but demand was to big on our side. People wanted the device knowing it had problems and now most of them are fighting that they didn't pay much attention to the tablet. Even though we wanted it the way it was....... But every body has their views.
How many people agree?
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Just wow, seriously, if you're not happy with your prime then return it, there are plenty of primes like mine that work perfectly.
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JustinFields95 said:
Just wow, seriously, if you're not happy with your prime then return it, there are plenty of primes like mine that work perfectly.
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Shut up some of us are out of our return window! and are you not unhappy that they will be releasing versions with fixed GPS and other stuff!
The bootloader thing was completely different, this is way too far, and its worded like a spoiled teenage rant.
What really annoys me is that I see you "OP" genuinely trying to help bring these problems to light and get Asus to do the right thing and fix this debacle of a product. But instead I see trolls trollin your thread. Lame.
I applaud you for your outcry. This really needs Asus's FULL attention. Not just Gary and a few other employees. I have a feeling Asus is going to proceed with the release of the TF700t and leave the TF201 in the dust. If I was Asus I would carefully take a look at what went wrong with the TF201 and figure out how to fix it. Instead of releasing a new product. If these problems aren't fixed by Tuesday I am returning my Prime and dock and going with an iPad 3 or maybe a TF700t. Most likely an iPad 3. I really hope Asus comes through in the next 72 hours.
Try not to get upset with fellow TF201 owners. I guarantee their tone will change once the TF700t arrives with no problems. We are all on the same team.
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The bootloader thing was completely different, this is way too far, and its worded like a spoiled teenage rant.
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The bootloader was the same thing!
They had no right to LOCK something we purchased
It was not a cellphone purchased on contract!
This is unacceptable for a company as big as Asus to have this horrible of quality control!
Sky gunner thank you!
Where are the compesations given to other countries outside of the U.S.?
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Where are the compesations given to other countries outside of the U.S.?
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Idk but thank you so much
these guys do not see an undermining company like we do!
No problem. I am here to help.
I know that I have only been a member of this thread for a short while. But I have enjoyed/found most people here to be informitive and entertaining.
Not only is Asus causing me to second guess my 5th TF201 & dock purchase by way of a full refund return, they are alienating me from participating in this wonderful forum full of members with similar interests. After my 5th Prime I'm gone from XDA/Asus.
I really hope it doesn't come down to this.
Ok guys, i feel ya. It sucks getting a faulty product especially over and over. No argument there.
But these issues are only present in a small percentage of Primes. And most of them only apply to artificial situations. For instance wifi: I have a a ~16 Mbps connection. What if my wifi drops to 8 Mbps for some seconds while watching youtube? I wont even notice. So for 95% of Prime users those wifi "issues" dont exist. Me included even though i get pretty steady results.
Minor screen bleed is present on almost all IPS panels even your precious ipads (you should get one, they are perfect devices, will never have problems and last 100 years - sry irony took over ). And again, the only place you notice screen bleed is on startup screen or if your in complete darkness looking at a black page and turning IPS+ on.
So the amount of people that have gone through several primes is very very small. Even here on XDA most people dont experience these issues in a way that the device becomes less fun or even unusable.
By logic the amount of people that will sign this petition and send some spam mail will never be enough to actually achieve something. Sorry man
The bootloader thing was something completely different. Companies locking up bootloaders is something that affects every freakin Android user. So i'm pretty sure there were many people that didnt even plan on buying a prime signing that petition. The same way i have signed the HTC petition and will sign every single one about locking bootloaders of Android devices. Plus, i'm almost certain ASUS already planned it when the petition started.
Again it sucks buying and waiting for such a product and then having a faulty device. Happened to everyone once... But all you can do is, return it and hope for getting a working replacement. Buying another product, or waiting for the next Transformer model from ASUS.
And btw when i read TF700T will have no issues, all i can say is lol. Its like saying the world will end in 2012. Wait... Maybe the two things are linked in some higher plan we dont understand yet!!!??? I think i'm on to something here...
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No problem. I am here to help.
I know that I have only been a member of this thread for a short while. But I have enjoyed/found most people here to be informitive and entertaining.
Not only is Asus causing me to second guess my 5th TF201 & dock purchase by way of a full refund return, they are alienating me from participating in this wonderful forum full of members with similar interests. After my 5th Prime I'm gone from XDA/Asus.
I really hope it doesn't come down to this.
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Awhh We must have lost so many members to this section of the fourm when it first came out!
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So the amount of people that have gone through several primes is very very small. Even here on XDA most people dont experience these issues in a way that the device becomes less fun or even unusable.
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I agree. Most of the TF201 returns I heard about from customer service at my local Bestbuy were transactions that resulted in a full refund not exchange. Most people would return and move on to iPad 3, TF700t etc......
Do you really believe that after this mess of a release Asus is gonna release another defective product? I don't think so. I'm sure Asus's legal department/engineering is working together to provide a "Asus Inspiring Innovation Persistent Perfection" product with the release of the TF700t.
While I'm not quite as zealous as the OP, I do feel that ASUS needs to address the issues listed above. They undoubtedly knew there were pretty severe engineering issues with the prime before release if not, then quite soon thereafter. The weak wifi and nonexistent GPS are unquestionable. The other QA problems are more or less expected
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Guys!
I just sold my Galaxy tab 10.1 for the prime,but reading from this forum with GPS and WIFI problem...
Should i BUY IT or NOT?
Or wait for the next TABLET....
dmoney94 said:
Guys!
I just sold my Galaxy tab 10.1 for the prime,but reading from this forum with GPS and WIFI problem...
Should i BUY IT or NOT?
Or wait for the next TABLET....
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Get it. There are a lot of people on here, including myself, that love their primes.
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If I've helped you in any way... hit the "Thanks" button.
It is a great device that while it has a few issues here and there its nothing to throw the level of fits some do here. At very least give it a try and make your own judgements.
dmoney94 said:
Guys!
I just sold my Galaxy tab 10.1 for the prime,but reading from this forum with GPS and WIFI problem...
Should i BUY IT or NOT?
Or wait for the next TABLET....
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If you read through some of the longer threads you'll see references to "good" Prime's and "bad" Prime's. The loyalists will say their "good" Prime's are in the majority while those with issues will say the "bad" Prime's are. There have been Prime's in the first batch w/o issues and samples of the latest build with them. Some people have had to go through quite a few exchanges to get a Prime they're happy with while some got a "good" Prime from the first batch built on the first shot. Keep in mind that both "good" and "bad" are subjective. With that said, it's your call.
I would definitely get it. I have one and yes there was wifi and GPS issues but a recent update has fixed the wifi issue on my prime
Keep reading and do what's best for you. Its a divided community and you are bound to get flamed just for this post.
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Its a divided community
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Which, indirectly, is an answer unto itself.
who needs GPS?
Well, i decided to open my box. it's the new champagne version and as the wifi works (so far) the gps doesn't at all.. then again it's snowing here so it may not work until there's a nice, clear day. i'm giving mine the benefit of the doubt and we shall see over the coming weeks if it was a good decission or a bad one as i will end up making a thread about what issues i come across eventhough i haven't gotten even midway through a quarter of the threads based around this workhorse.
stay tuned. but as for me, even with the gps not being amazing, or even working... i'm still happy at this point
There is quite alot of complaining going on here. But dont let yourself be fooled by that. There are/were some issues with Primes, my guess is that its mostly early models that had some preproduction problems.
Most users here are very happy with their Primes myself included. My wifi is perfect wherever i am in our house, i could even use it in the garden if it werent -10° Celcius
In fact if i compare it with wifi analyzer to my phone its almost always a bit stronger. Also my GPS works pretty reasonable when i'm outside, getting a fix in under a minute, not the strongest but it works.
Everything else is just astounding. Browsing, gaming, reading books/comics ist just an amazing experience. Everything is smooth, battery is amazing (no .13 patch in europe yet), in fact i hardly ever power up my desktop pc anymore. High quality flash in fullscreen or even outputted to an HDTV is just nice.
Oh and i have a perfectly smooth and working n64 and psx with me now. All the time Wh00t!?
I really have nothing bad to say at this point. And btw, this is the first unit i got. No exchange was needed.
If you are comfortable dealing with bugs, exchanging the product several times until you receive a good working unit, receiving little to no support, being without the tablet during RMAs, and probable hardware issues which cannot be fixed with software, I say buy it.
Myself, I returned mine for something more stable, the acer A200. I'm waiting for either a fixed TF201 or a different quad core tablet.
I received a bad unit and might seem negative. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Get it, try it. If you like it, keep it. If not, return it. But, do NOT keep it past the return period if you actually want to return it.
Keep in mind that any future update may make you wish you had returned it.
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- If you want to use GPS with your tablet I would recommend waiting.
- If you do not have a pressing desire/need for a tablet right now I would recommend waiting.
Given those two qualifications I would say go for it but do so with open eyes. Know your return window and if your unit has problems, or you can not live with the limitations, then be sure to return it in time. Personally I am quite fond of my TP but it would be foolhardy to deny that many have had problems.
If you can wait till June/July then I would recommend waiting for the 700 series transformer. Chances are Asus will have learned something from the TP and will update the wireless. Additionally by then the tegra 3 chipset will have been around long enough for the supporting code to be better situated. Finally the reported 1920x1200 screen is very enticing for me.
Ignoring the 700 I am sure the other manufacturers are not sitting on their laurels either. It might be worth a wait to see what comes out.
Thank everybody for your comments....
Now its time for me to decide....
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Thank everybody for your comments....
Now its time for me to decide....
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Are you a betting man (or woman)? Now that your question's been answered, I'll bet you an accessory this post is up to four pages by this time tomorrow and never leaves the front page. Such is the emotion the Prime evokes.
BostonDan2 said:
If you are comfortable dealing with bugs, exchanging the product several times until you receive a good working unit, receiving little to no support, being without the tablet during RMAs, and probable hardware issues which cannot be fixed with software, I say buy it.
Myself, I returned mine for something more stable, the acer A200. I'm waiting for either a fixed TF201 or a different quad core tablet.
I received a bad unit and might seem negative. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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I couldn't have said that better myself. I would still give it a shot. Who knows, you may get a "Good Prime".
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JanetPanic said:
- If you want to use GPS with your tablet I would recommend waiting.
- If you do not have a pressing desire/need for a tablet right now I would recommend waiting.
Given those two qualifications I would say go for it but do so with open eyes. Know your return window and if your unit has problems, or you can not live with the limitations, then be sure to return it in time. Personally I am quite fond of my TP but it would be foolhardy to deny that many have had problems.
If you can wait till June/July then I would recommend waiting for the 700 series transformer. Chances are Asus will have learned something from the TP and will update the wireless. Additionally by then the tegra 3 chipset will have been around long enough for the supporting code to be better situated. Finally the reported 1920x1200 screen is very enticing for me.
Ignoring the 700 I am sure the other manufacturers are not sitting on their laurels either. It might be worth a wait to see what comes out.
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Good post.
BarryH_GEG said:
If you read through some of the longer threads you'll see references to "good" Prime's and "bad" Prime's. The loyalists will say their "good" Prime's are in the majority while those with issues will say the "bad" Prime's are. There have been Prime's in the first batch w/o issues and samples of the latest build with them. Some people have had to go through quite a few exchanges to get a Prime they're happy with while some got a "good" Prime from the first batch built on the first shot. Keep in mind that both "good" and "bad" are subjective. With that said, it's your call.
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Nvm...lmao. just take a look St The positive Transformer thread in my signature. But remember OP,
NOTHING IS AS GOOD AS IT SEEMS AND NOTHING IS AS BAD AS IT SEEMS. SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN REALITY FALLS!
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Nvm...lmao. just take a look St The positive Transformer thread in my signature. But remember OP,
NOTHING IS AS GOOD AS IT SEEMS AND NOTHING IS AS BAD AS IT SEEMS. SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN REALITY FALLS!
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Janet said it best. If you don't need a tablet right now, there's zero harm in waiting. Hopefully Asus will work through the issues and a Prime purchased in the future will be more stable. If not, there are other tablets coming out so there will be something to compare to. Hopefully at MWC on the 27th manufacturers will do more than have a beauty pageant and actually announce some release dates.
If you are going to give it a try - make sure you buy from a store with a good return policy. 30 days, no shipping back fees and no restocking fees.
I have returned 2 and will return the 3rd. All of them had problems.
From my experience, I was amazed when it was advertised. I bought it, wasnt satisfied, exchanged it, wasnt satisfied again, in process of exchanging it, then the update screwed my wife's prime, so I returned that hers and cancalled mine for a full refund. We choose to wait for the prime to get its bugs out or a newer or better one to come out that we can try out and see if it something we can rely on.
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If you are comfortable dealing with bugs, exchanging the product several times until you receive a good working unit, receiving little to no support, being without the tablet during RMAs, and probable hardware issues which cannot be fixed with software, I say buy it.
Myself, I returned mine for something more stable, the acer A200. I'm waiting for either a fixed TF201 or a different quad core tablet.
I received a bad unit and might seem negative. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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+1 the future does not look good for this particular model of a new line comes out maybe then it would be worth it if they get QC under control with the processor.
Obviously it's the most "powerful" in terms of pure processing power and GPU as far as Android tablets go. But is the problems worth not buying? I will not be rooting the device as way to many problems I see on here. My question is if I leave it stock would I have some stupid issue's? I dont use bluetooth or GPS on a tablet so..
I posted this on the OG transformer forum by accident.
I KNOW there is a new TF coming out in June that will fix these issue's... But as of NOW is this a safe buy if I won't be rooting ? I will still be getting the new one later.. But need a tablet and cannot see myself going to garbage Tegra2.
Is H.profile video decoded easily with the Tegra3 vs.the 2?
Is it worth buying....?
In a word.... yes
After ASUS fixes the problems with Wifi and WiFi + BT it will be a great buy. Before that, no.
Techie2012 said:
After ASUS fixes the problems with Wifi and WiFi + BT it will be a great buy. Before that, no.
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What problems with "WiFi" from what i've heard there are only WiFi+BT issues
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What problems with "WiFi" from what i've heard there are only WiFi+BT issues
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I think he was talking about poor wifi performance in some cases. I have a C10KAS that I'll hopefully return today since I can't do anything beyond 20 ft from the router. I'll try to land on a C20KAS which apparently of no issues at all on this.
@jamaicansolja: I dont get it either There are some people that have some issues with wifi stability as it seems. The same thing you see with any device in this format especially the ipad.
I didnt have any of those problems though. I always have about exactly the same connection as my phone (DesireHD, also made out of aluminum with plastic cut outs). (see attachment)
Should you get the prime? Its the best Tablet out there. So yeah go ahead I certainly am really happy with it. Of course that will change in the future, but atm there is nothing even close. And i dont think the ipad 3 will change that because iOS will stay iOS... But thats personal preference.
Same location, 7-8m away from the router (24ft?) 2 Walls in between.
phone:
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Jesus...another thread like this? really?
It's pretty crazy how people are posting on a forum for the tech savvy people but have no clue how to do a search.
This message board really needs some mods.
simple answer yes. just look at the thread in my signature called Positive transformer thread. all your worries will cease afterwards .
If you don't need to take handwritten notes on it, yes it is a very good tablet. I which, there was a digitizer pen that works on the Transformer Prime.
Look dude, what you have to understand is the XDA forums (at least for the prime) has a higher concentration of people who have for whatever reason gotten bad primes. This is most likely because they are looking for answers. The prime is FLYING off the shelf and people who are happy aren't going to be as vocal as people who aren't.
I'm on my second prime and both have been great. The HDMI out port died on my first one, however, I dropped it off the back of the couch onto my kids tricycle so that may have had something to do with it.
I have never had a wifi issue at all. I get full strength in most parts of my house (I have 1.5mbps DSL connection and speed test puts my connection at 1.2mbps). The GPS on it is hit or miss, my first one didn't really work but my second (C1 s/n) works a bit better. If you want a GPS that works on the road though......put your had in your pocket and take out your phone. I've never had any random reboots with either of them. In short I've never had any problems. Its the fastest tablet out there and the best on the market. The keyboard dock is what really gives its edge. I was without one for two days and contemplated getting another until I realized there wasn't one that did everything the prime did.
If enough people complain and send their primes in for GPS issues and the problem becomes a hassle for the company they will offer a fix....I think there was a thread on here saying as much.
BUY ONE!
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If you don't need to take handwritten notes on it, yes it is a very good tablet. I which, there was a digitizer pen that works on the Transformer Prime.
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Why shouldn't you use it for handwriting?
I actually ordered mine for handwriting.
It's a notebook computer (with the dock) and a tablet. There's none like it. I don't need GPS on it cause I have 10 other GPS devices. Wifi is fine on mine, not any weaker than my HTC evo 3d. The good part is it can be as smooth as fast as ipad2 with a custom rom. I'm running virtuous rom. I can't complain its more sluggish or slower than ipad2 now. Functionalities on the TFP just blow ipad dead in the water. Just the browser alone is enough reason to get the TFP over the ipad2. Text reflow, flash support, bookmarks sync with chrome on your pc, quick controls on the stock browser or ice browser+ make safari look so dated, dynamically request desktop view. Complete sweatness. I don't have to go in other details of ice and android's goodness. I purposely compare it to ipad2 cause that's the strongest contender to TFP. I don't think there's a better android tablet out there.
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the XDA forums (at least for the prime) has a higher concentration of people who have for whatever reason gotten bad primes.
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Yes. ASUS strategically shipped all the defective devices to XDA forum members. I, for one, exchanged it 3 times and my 4th unit is also defective. Perhaps I'll ask a friend who is not a forum member to buy one for me so I get a working unit.
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Yes. ASUS strategically shipped all the defective devices to XDA forum members. I, for one, exchanged it 3 times and my 4th unit is also defective. Perhaps I'll ask a friend who is not a forum member to buy one for me so I get a working unit.
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Are you serious can you not read and comprehend a simple paragraph. I said that the XDA forums have a higher concentration of people who have problems with their primes because they come here looking for answers.....not that asus sent bad ones only to xda members.
You know because this is a tech forum and if people with electronics have issues they come to sites like these to seek answers.....therefore these forums could have a higher concentration of people with complaints. I didn't think that needed to be explained
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Yes. ASUS strategically shipped all the defective devices to XDA forum members. I, for one, exchanged it 3 times and my 4th unit is also defective. Perhaps I'll ask a friend who is not a forum member to buy one for me so I get a working unit.
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I think you need to reread what he wrote since you clearly misunderstood. It happens to the best of us.
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Well I was told to go elsewhere to complain about Asus and the problems I am having with the $680 64Gb prime I bought. So since Diamondback is getting tired of closing threads and deleting posts, I decided on starting a thread were people who need or want to vent can come and vent. And to be fair if you have good things to say about Asus or your Prime please share it here.
As I have tried to say before I like my Prime but am getting tired of the problems that have not been fixed or pop up after an update is released..
I think the gps dongle, while a nice gesture was a misstep for Asus. I would have just taken that on the chin. The hardware/software problems that have not been resolved are far worse. I don't give a s- about gps. Again, nice move on their part, but the dongle does me zero good if the damn thing crashes and freezes. I'll take the wifi issues, it's not that bad. Just give me a functional f'n unit that doesn't run slower than my ibm 286. \rant
There is a class action suit going on. I was actually contacted today by one of the lawyers doing it. You can email [email protected] and tell him you want to be apart of it.
I miss the complaint thread. At least there was the hope that Asus would actually read their own thread, which ended up not being the case.
Better hurry up, this one will probably closed to.
Bout to pack bags from XDA with all of this crap. Its a shame.
All were looking for is answers.
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graffixnyc said:
There is a class action suit going on. I was actually contacted today by one of the lawyers doing it. You can email [email protected] and tell him you want to be apart of it.
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Another one? I thought that got killed
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Better hurry up, this one will probably closed to.
Bout to pack bags from XDA with all of this crap. Its a shame.
All were looking for is answers.
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Another one? I thought that got killed
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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I think the gps dongle, while a nice gesture was a misstep for Asus. I would have just taken that on the chin. The hardware/software problems that have not been resolved are far worse. I don't give a s- about gps. Again, nice move on their part, but the dongle does me zero good if the damn thing crashes and freezes. I'll take the wifi issues, it's not that bad. Just give me a functional f'n unit that doesn't run slower than my ibm 286. \rant
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Absolutely true.
Asus took the easy way out by sending us a 4 dollar piece of plastic and wire, instead of working on the actual issues.
Since i see demandarin posting in this thread, so much for your update prediction. This is getting totally ridiculous. , and Asus seems fine with it.I have bought so much Asus stuff over the years, i will be rethinking that, after the prime fiasco,
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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Class action suits are awesome for all lawyers involved and the original filer. No one added to the class gets anything useful.
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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That's really your personal opinion on the matter. How it unfolds.. I guess we'll have to just wait and see (we won't find out until few yrs later anyways). Btw, what do you mean by no "official" filing?
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
What else do you need?? What's more official?
You sir are mistaken.
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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This is not correct, the papers were filed over two months ago, the case is strong and will move forward in good time. ASuS as already been to two informal hearing at the various law firms involved when they were in CA. And as stated in previous post, you can let the team know that you'd like to be a part if they need anymore actual users of this product to appear in court. I've been watching mr. demandarin for quite some time and I'm sorry to say, but I feel he is either privileged by ASUS or just a tireless fan boy. Nothing wrong with enjoying a product and company that as serviced you to your satisfaction, but most of us that have kept quite for some time have followed long and tedious arguments that involved this individual. I give credit where credit is due but do not idolize any company, person, device or anything else so I can be a little more unbiased when assessing a situation. If you are unhappy with a product, this is the place to seek help, and if you can get a actual rep to listen, good for you! If you can't, then it's time to take legal action and get louder so that others are protected from having the same treatment as you. So by all means, follow the previous posters advice, seek out legal action. It will be funny to see how many fans will have their hand's out for the settlement money when it is awarded. Mark my words.
Thanks
I am glad to see that this tread is getting used. I also want to thank all who posted here as I have learned more about what is going on and what people are looking for. I have learned that I am not the only one who wants a stable working Prime over a GPS dongle.
I also would like to know if anyone has tried to use a Huawei E369 Datacard with their Prime. I have read that the Huawei 17xx was working but would like to buy the newest one out that will work so it will last at least 5 years before it becomes outdated.
I've noticed as of late that asus has stfu about everything. I realize that Gary was sick, but "official posts" are becoming fewer and farther between. They are going into defense mode. They know they are sol to fix the issues without having to put out a full recall which is a huge embarrassment and going to cost them an arm and a leg, plus street cred. It's getting to end game folks. They better be brewing a software miracle, or an overall solution. I think a lawsuit has legs with the horrible performance, Dongle be damned.
I would think a class action lawsuit has a foothold. There is absolutely no way that Asus did not know about the wifi and GPS issues when they launched. They got caught up in the "iPad killer" hype and wanted to get them out by Christmas. The lack of advertising by Asus and the retail establishment is icing on the cake.
Funny thing is that I picked up a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for my birthday last week and it is snappier than my Prime (especially when browsing and installing from the Play store)
The lack of updates is disconcerting as well. Perhaps there are no further firmware/software fixes for this device.
It is simply a small blip on the Android Tablet radar that will go down in history as a complete and utter failure.
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I am glad to see that this tread is getting used. I also want to thank all who posted here as I have learned more about what is going on and what people are looking for. I have learned that I am not the only one who wants a stable working Prime over a GPS dongle.
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There has been a ton of discussion about this just today, problem is it keeps getting shut down, either by reported posts, or, over zealous mods, either way, the ends the same
The mysterious , unreleased firmware should be telling everybody something, the og transformer has had the update to .24 for quite sometime, the prime testers have had it for at least 2 weeks or more, one in particular gave today as a release date, even though some of those testers are reporting good results, I'm not buying it. If it was ready for prime time it would have dropped.It seems like I have new issues pop up every day, or the same issues manifesting in different ways
I have multiple issues with prime, i am going to ask Asus for a refund, probably more than ask, and go with something else, other tegra 3 tablets available, and the A700 and thrive are getting rave reviews, They certainly can't be worse than the Prime, and i doubt they will go backwards with no explanation like the prime.Asus is going to lose my business for sure
I have 2 different PM's to both Asus_usa and Gary key, for 2 and a half days now, so far no response yet, for dedicated forum support, thats unacceptable.
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demandarin said:
its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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opps... didnt see someone posted the link to the filing. lol But If anything comes from it remains to be seen..
All I want is the browser sped up and I would be perfectly happy. Gary mentioned that there would be an upgrade to browsing in the new firmware but after this much time it leads you to think that it must be a hardware issue. Although Asus has always been outed by other sources before they give out any real information.
I bought a top of the line Android Tablet and I swear my girlfriends Kindle browses the internet faster.
It is also odd to see that new post the other day about the Asus Nexus Tablet. It is hard to believe that they would be able to meet Demand or Expectations after all of the Prime problems.
Yea I am getting tired closing all your threads....
What's so hard about posting in existing threads?
I understand that you want answers, I want them too, but making new threads each day complaning about the issues won't get you any answers...
Gary doesn't answer in threads, so maybe the situation will change with the new guy - Asus_USA - but until then please use the existing threads.