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I bought an X2 a few weeks ago because it was available to me for $50 (yeah, I'm. Cheap). I really love it (except for the physical buttons (wtf?)) and I really wanted something larger than my Incredible. However after reading threads for a few weeks it just really seems the development for the X2 is being past over for older equipment (i.e. my Viewsonic G Tab?) & newer phones. Did I pick the wrong phone??
I'm not crazy techie, so I don't know the complexity, but the Droid, the Droid X & the Droid 2 have been cracked. Did Motorola really go to so much trouble making the X2 so different that it is much more difficult to crack or are the efforts to crack this phone being passed over for some reason? Do I just need to avoid Motorola phones in the future?
Like I said I'm not a very technical, but have contributed (donation-wise) to multiple ROMs I used on my Incredible & gTab & I just thought I would see similar flexibility on the X2 by now, so I just want to know if I need move on from the X2 or not?
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Yeah, I don't really run that much and I regularly see only about 3-9MB avail. ;(
I'm starting to think this is a middle of the road phone that I should have just past by & it seems the developers think so as well. Guess I should have researched more, not been so cheap & been less impatient.
Well I'm cheap, so I'll need to wait for better pricing on the latest phones, but if Motorola is going to be such a problem, then I guess I need to go with Samsung or HTC.
mistawolfe said:
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Agreed, they do however, run very well on any of the current available roms imo. The devs have done an excellent job of working with what we have.
Flashaholik
The above is true. Nitro is the best thing that happened to this phone. Try eclipse out and see how you like it then.
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If you don't have 4g in your area, x2 is your best bet. Im running eclipse and am more than happy to keep x2 until mid 2013 when 4g arrives in my area. If you have 4g, get something else.
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The only thing that sux about this phone is not having an unlocked bootloader but with the roms we have available it runs super smooth and it's reliable and yes nitro is the best thing to happen to this phone...don't get discouraged paying 50 bucks for this dualcore phone is a steal bro...
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Please enlighten us noobs on this subject professor wolf lol
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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the lack of non-stock ROMs is partially because of the bootloader. The other reason is because of lack of interest.
Droid X, 2, 2 Global all still have locked bootloaders (I believe), yet a lot of custom ROMs including CyanogenMod and MIUI. Not sure if all the dual-core Motorolas are unlocked, but I know some are.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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No actual ROMs huh? So a ROM isn't a ROM because it doesn't have a custom kernel? What do you call Eclipse? What do you call Liberty?
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
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You talking about me? Or the newbs?
I was able to trade my dx2 for an incredible 2 and the difference is astounding. The dx2 has good hardware and amazing build quality but a lot of the major selling points of the phone don't mean anything. Qhd is a gimmick, as is dual-core IMO. Nothing is built to take advantage of it, including Android.
The best thing about the dx2 was the build quality and feel which is second to none. Everything about the hardware is more refined than my INC2. Eclipse is a great ROM too and makes this device worthwhile.
All in all, I think this phone has a chance at being everything that the x was but it is going to require more people to stand up.
Bottom line: if you want a phone for a specific ROM/kernel, do your research before you spend your cash. Your response to your device will be based on your expectations.
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The other issue, with the rate the new "bigger badder" phones are popping up, Dev's can't keep up, nor afford to buy every phone on the block. This Android runs 2.2.2, the next runs 2.3.5, the next runs 4.0.1, you get the point. These 1 man teams like Nitro are insane working on 3/4 phones at a time, and building their rom at a pace that keeps up with Android builds and hardware differences. Not to mention the continued support despite the pace of new phones being released. If you want everything under the sun, buy a phone everyone is interested in. Look how ridiculous the Galaxy Nexus forum is already and the phone was just ANNOUNCED weeks ago, not even released yet. We have what we have over here, and complaining about it doesn't help anything. Short of unlocking the BL ourselves and enticing devs by buying them the phone, we probably are not going to get more than the handful of ROMs and support we currently have.
The newly released Eclipse 1.2 and Liberty 3 RC1 are fantastic. This is how the X2 shouldve have been out of the box. Liberty final is coming soon and that'll be it till we get ICS. My phone is now almost as smooth as an iphone.
Also, use the following apps:
Go Launcher
Opera
Quickpic
ES File Explorer
ROM Toolbox
Handcent
I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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That's because it IS great and every update gets even better.
don't forget to customize your phone to make it run how you want. Don't feel limited in what this phone can do/handle.
A custom launcher can make a lot of difference in how you phone feels.
I LOVE go launcher ex. Lots of themes and home screen options. Different screen transition animation(even in app drawer..sphere animation is sick)
Right now im still using the launcher that came wit 1.2eclipse..it works smooth and looks good.
Just throwing in my 2cents but the previously mentions about just buying on cool specs is always going to backfire. And the other point about the devs not being able to keep up with the phones is the second major issue.
I got "upgraded" to the DX2 from my DX by insurance and I have run almost every rom I could. After the time I spent with my DX it was as fast as this phone is and there was way more choice of hacks and roms. I have to give serious props to Nitro, the Liberty crew and Navendrob (hope I spelled the name right) because they have done some great work. But unfortunately by the time all their hard work is finally paying off the majority of us will be on the next phone.
To bad more people can't afford to donate to devs so they can have new toys to hack on....
I saw a post for the Droid Bionic and Droid 3, recently. It is the "[Alpha4] Ics4Bionic Preview" thread on the droidforums.net forums. I can not link it here since I am new and have less than 8 posts (search it on Google).
In short, they both got an Alpha version of an ICS ROM. As far as I know, neither got the ICS OTA update yet. And, as far as I can tell, both still have a locked bootloader. Still, they seem to be running an ICS ROM with Android 4.0.1. How is this possible? Without a bootloader, we don't have the ability to load a custom kernel, right? But then, how did these devs load Android 4.0.1 (aka ICS) on the Bionic and Droid 3?
Also, I was wondering, if Moto and Verizon don't plan to show this phone some love and release an ICS OTA update, can we still get it somehow in the form of a port by some dev?
i honestly don't get all the hype of Ice cream sandwich
does it improve the camera quality? video camera quality?
battery life? flash performance?
bring GPU acceleration to UI?
i haven't heard any of those but somehow people gets excited on seeing their number going from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5
atleast thats how i see it. peace
From the buzz around the Net there are a few devs working on ICS ROMs for the X2. I'm not entirely sure about a leak or port of the fw, but I know from nitroglycerin33's twitter he has been working on a re-vamp of the Eclipse ROM with tons of ICS touches and tweaks. So look out for that.
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i honestly don't get all the hype of Ice cream sandwich
does it improve the camera quality? video camera quality?
battery life? flash performance?
bring GPU acceleration to UI?
i haven't heard any of those but somehow people gets excited on seeing their number going from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5
atleast thats how i see it. peace
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The hype is gpu acceleration and the new user friendly ui. ics on the droid 3, even though nothing works, is the smoothest rom out for it
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The hype is gpu acceleration and the new user friendly ui. ics on the droid 3, even though nothing works, is the smoothest rom out for it
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I haven't. heard any tegra 2 phone that is confirmed to get ics
Akaik, droid 3 is using ti omap4 which has different gpu than x2
If thats the case, then it is possible that x2 wont have gpu acceleration seeing no tegra 2 device is confirmed to have.
Even atrix 4g which is heavily marketed and have twice the ram of x2 isnt confirm either
Which would make ics kinda pointless
I am more interested on the blue hue camera fix and camcorder autofocus for x2 more than anything else
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I haven't. heard any tegra 2 phone that is confirmed to get ics
Akaik, droid 3 is using ti omap4 which has different gpu than x2
If thats the case, then it is possible that x2 wont have gpu acceleration seeing no tegra 2 device is confirmed to have.
Even atrix 4g which is heavily marketed and have twice the ram of x2 isnt confirm either
Which would make ics kinda pointless
I am more interested on the blue hue camera fix and camcorder autofocus for x2 more than anything else
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The xoom1 is getting it.
100% confirmed by moto.
Don't wanna post my citation but here:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xoom+original+ics+confirmed+by+motorolla+
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It is possible to get an ics rom but we have to be patient. A few great devs have been working hard on getting a working 2nd init and have been very successful. Its really only a matter of time. Although we might see an ics rom, it wont have all the features of ics.
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It is possible to get an ics rom but we have to be patient. A few great devs have been working hard on getting a working 2nd init and have been very successful. Its really only a matter of time. Although we might see an ics rom, it wont have all the features of ics.
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Exactly, stuff that really doesn't matter though, like the on-screen buttons, I think would have no place on a physical keyed phone like the x2. Motorola, if they are planning anything at all, should have it announced at least by January.
I don't think we will get an official update to ics. Just a ported rom. Essentially it would just be the updated ui and maybe a few performance tweeks. If you want to get the full experience of what 4.0 has to offer, you will have to get a phone built for it.
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I am here today to discuss all the possible ways of getting pics on your photon, though none of them fully baked.
1. Of all the tegra . Devices with a working port, the xoim is your best bet. Mainly because the Xoom and the photon have similair boards and partly because the the idea of ICS is being able to bridge the phone tablet gap.
2. We have working cyanogon mod now, and cyanogen has working tegra cm9 builds, if one of the cm7 porters is up to the challenge than the cm9 builds are your best bet.
3. The hardest of all solutions, is waiting for some super hacker to post their build of Photon ICS, unless someone already has a buil going than there is a seriously low chance of this choice seeing the light of day.
But this thread is also here to say that we have very good devs here and should be happy with all the work we have. If you do not believe me take a look at the atrix or X2 forums because the photon blows them out of the water.
Merry Christmas to all and a happy new year!
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I have faith in Motorola releasing official ICS to our Photon. This is their flagship phone on Sprint, and I don't see any reason to not get the update.
And yes we have awesome devs that do an awesome stuff with our phones.
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Id rather wait for an official ICS build some time next year than a half assed port to be honest. We need few more issues fixed in our cm7 port before cm9 shows its face. Cybik is taking care of cm7 and is doing a very good job. I don't know if the photon is officially supported by cm yet but i know he submitted it. In a nutshell I don't think we should be worried about ics ports yet when our CM7 GB port isn't fully completed. There's still a few kinks that need to be ironed out...
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Id rather wait for an official ICS build some time next year than a half assed port to be honest. We need few more issues fixed in our cm7 port before cm9 shows its face. Cybik is taking care of cm7 and is doing a very good job. I don't know if the photon is officially supported by cm yet but i know he submitted it. In a nutshell I don't think we should be worried about ics ports yet when our CM7 GB port isn't fully completed. There's still a few kinks that need to be ironed out...
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I think this is one of those YMMV situations. I've had CM7 on my Electrify for a month and have had practically no ROM related issues, our devolopers have been nothing short of outstanding. Thank you all foe your hard work!
As for ICS, I have faith that someone out there is either already working on something at least on the side or CM9 is closer than we think. But if we have to wait Gill next year either from a dev or motorola, so be it. Quality takes time.
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Id be more worried about how to unlock the bootloader after the 2.3.5 update
craby1925 said:
I am here today to discuss all the possible ways of getting pics on your photon, though none of them fully baked.
1. Of all the tegra . Devices with a working port, the xoim is your best bet. Mainly because the Xoom and the photon have similair boards and partly because the the idea of ICS is being able to bridge the phone tablet gap.
2. We have working cyanogon mod now, and cyanogen has working tegra cm9 builds, if one of the cm7 porters is up to the challenge than the cm9 builds are your best bet.
3. The hardest of all solutions, is waiting for some super hacker to post their build of Photon ICS, unless someone already has a buil going than there is a seriously low chance of this choice seeing the light of day.
But this thread is also here to say that we have very good devs here and should be happy with all the work we have. If you do not believe me take a look at the atrix or X2 forums because the photon blows them out of the water.
Merry Christmas to all and a happy new year!
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You lost me after the 3 words/phrases above. Sorry....
Hes saying why cant we use the motorola xoom roms to port to the photon.
why cant we use the hero's ics rom to port it to the evo? they both have qualcomm chipsets????
it was the biggest issue people didnt get on the epic 4g.. just cuz they all use the same cpu and gpu doesnt mean anything else is the same :/
Shabby didnt you dev the one click root?
shabbypenguin said:
why cant we use the hero's ics rom to port it to the evo? they both have qualcomm chipsets????
it was the biggest issue people didnt get on the epic 4g.. just cuz they all use the same cpu and gpu doesnt mean anything else is the same :/
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People possibly get this idea that you can run the same ROM on any phone that has the same GPU/CPU is because of Windows that can run on any x86/x86-64 based computer
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People possibly get this idea that you can run the same ROM on any phone that has the same GPU/CPU is because of Windows that can run on any x86/x86-64 based computer
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yea :/
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Shabby didnt you dev the one click root?
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indeed i did.. trhe script was rather simple just uses the droid 3 exploit by djbliss
Its not the os its the carriers an manufactures.
Shabby you should get into bootloader unlocking
i would love more than be able to provide a 4g able unlock.. but this is my first moto is not only years but its the first non samsung/htc android phone ive had... i just dont have the knowledge to do it
I wait for an official ICS also, but moto always the snowest.
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I wait for an official ICS also, but moto always the snowest.
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I'm not sure I waited for Froyo on the MyTouch 3G /HTC Magic 3.5mm
Puntastic
sky24987 said:
I wait for an official ICS also, but moto always the snowest.
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Now my reasoning behind this was I looked for the moto device most similair to the photon with tegra 2. The xoom looks nothing like the photon, but it has working ics and has- parts wise-many identical parts and not just cpu, gpu stuff. Its more than a theory in my opinion but than again I don't have a photon (check the signature). If you can say out right it would be easier to start from scratch than work with the xoom, I can respect that but I always like clarification!
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Actually your semi right.both moto and nvidia share code between versions. More so than others.
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Now my reasoning behind this was I looked for the moto device most similair to the photon with tegra 2. The xoom looks nothing like the photon, but it has working ics and has- parts wise-many identical parts and not just cpu, gpu stuff. Its more than a theory in my opinion but than again I don't have a photon (check the signature). If you can say out right it would be easier to start from scratch than work with the xoom, I can respect that but I always like clarification!
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make no mistake using hotfixes from teh xoom is highly intelligent considing how much is close.. but joker can even tell you.. not everything from the atrix (our sister phoen) can even be just ported over without some modding.. :/
that is what my point is... VERY rarley do you have phones close enough to be able to just change out files willy nilly (the htc vision was an amazingly awesome phone for being able to do this) and the nexus s and the nexus s 4g are fairly universal when it comes to kernels for the most part
I posted this in the Inc2 forum before I realized there was a Inc4G forum. . .
Well, I'm sold. Those are the two magic words I needed to hear. Can't wait for that bad boy.
http://androidheadlines.com/2012/05/featured-verizon-wireless-turns-down-htcs-one-series-in-favor-of-droid-incredible-4g-lte.html
Even though the incredible 4G seems to have a few things that it lacks compared to the One X, it does have an unlocked bootloader which the One X does not. It seems that there was quite following of fans that wouldn’t have it any other way. This small group of android nerds is extremely passionate about the capability to tweak and change their devices. For those of you that are unfamiliar with what an unlocked bootloader does, it allows you somewhat endless possibilities to customize the firmware (or OS) on your device. Which can enhance its user experience, looks, features and the like. This move by HTC to keep the bootloader unlocked is because HTC says they fully support the ability to keep things open and customizable.
HTC is fully committed to the bootloader unlocking program and that Verizon is also completely behind it. Ultimately leading to its choice to make the incredible 4G LTE with this feature. While Verizon is behind the idea now. They could of course change their mind at any time.
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Hell yeah!
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Seems more like HTC will let the bootloader be unlocked via their site. That's not the unlock you are used to for your inc2
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I bet the clip will work on this device for a permanent s-off though ... At least there's hope . . .
I'll just repost my question from the Dinc2 forum, in case someone watching it here wants to chip in their thoughts:
But still, the fact remains that it will be unlocked by HTC's online unlock tool. Which does not grant S-OFF. Granted that this is better than nothing, but I really want to know how much can be done without S-OFF. I mean, S-OFF was a huge thing for rezound, which recently got it. And I heard, until S-OFF was achieved, AOSP ROMs were impossible on Rezound. So, how much can be done by simply unlocking it by HTC's tool and not getting S-OFF? What is the difference between unlocked bootloader with S-ON (i.e. HTC's unlock method) and unlocked Bootloader via S-OFF like I did for the Dinc2? That is my basic question.
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I'll just repost my question from the Dinc2 forum, in case someone watching it here wants to chip in their thoughts:
But still, the fact remains that it will be unlocked by HTC's online unlock tool. Which does not grant S-OFF. Granted that this is better than nothing, but I really want to know how much can be done without S-OFF. I mean, S-OFF was a huge thing for rezound, which recently got it. And I heard, until S-OFF was achieved, AOSP ROMs were impossible on Rezound. So, how much can be done by simply unlocking it by HTC's tool and not getting S-OFF? What is the difference between unlocked bootloader with S-ON (i.e. HTC's unlock method) and unlocked Bootloader via S-OFF like I did for the Dinc2? That is my basic question.
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You sir, have been misinformed. S-off on the rebound WAS a great achievement but has nothing to do with aosp. The problem with that is the RIL which will be an issue for the inc4g also.
Also, an unlocked bootloader is not all the different from s-off but does have so.e huge problems like nit being able to downgrade easily if you accidentally run an RUU that updates the baseband. It also give issues with version numbers if leaks are released but that issue has been fixed. Kernels can not be flashed via recovery and you have to lock the bootloader whenever you want to run an RUU. I may be forgetting some other differences but the last and IMO biggest is that once you unlock, it will always say re-locked at the top which COULD cause warranty issues even though it has nit for anyone so far.
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If you want AOSP so bad then just get a Nexus. Personally, I'm stoked for some ICS with Sense 4.
According to that article. It says it won't have the S4 cpu in it.
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According to that article. It says it won't have the S4 cpu in it.
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I read it has a S4 but doesn't, so I'm like huh?
So S3.5?
Anyway, maybe the method that got Rezound users like myself S-OFF can get I4GLTE users theirs, such a clever method at that.
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According to that article. It says it won't have the S4 cpu in it.
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I Am Marino said:
I read it has a S4 but doesn't, so I'm like huh?
So S3.5?
Anyway, maybe the method that got Rezound users like myself S-OFF can get I4GLTE users theirs, such a clever method at that.
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the official annoucement from vzw and htc said it was a s4 chip
its just not the same exact chip as the one s or one x
i gave me best guess on the actual chip here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26102928&postcount=41
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According to that article. It says it won't have the S4 cpu in it.
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I Am Marino said:
I read it has a S4 but doesn't, so I'm like huh?
So S3.5?
Anyway, maybe the method that got Rezound users like myself S-OFF can get I4GLTE users theirs, such a clever method at that.
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the official annoucement from vzw and htc said it was a s4 chip
its just not the same exact chip as the one s or one x
i gave me best guess on the actual chip here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26102928&postcount=41
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To graymonkey44, you misinterpreted the article. As nitsuj17 said, they were saying that it's not the same chip. It's still an S4.
To nitsuj17, it definitely won't have the msm 8930 that you suspected, since that has the Adreno 305 GPU which won't even be released until Q3
So the exact chip is still a little fuzzy. The only S4 chip that really seems to match is the 8960, but that doesn't come in 1.2GHz and an HTC rep has said it's not underclocked. So it seems like the possibilities are:
It's the 1.2GHz 8930 featuring the faster Adreno 305 GPU that wont be released until Q3
Verizon/HTC somehow, and for reasons unknown, managed to get Qualcomm to custom make a special 1.2GHz S4 with the Adreno 225 GPU and LTE.
The HTC rep that said it's not underclocked was either lying or mistaken, and it is in fact the 8960 underclocked to 1.2GHz.
Personally, I think that last one is the most plausible, but who knows.
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To graymonkey44, you misinterpreted the article. As nitsuj17 said, they were saying that it's not the same chip. It's still an S4.
To nitsuj17, it definitely won't have the msm 8930 that you suspected, since that has the Adreno 305 GPU which won't even be released until Q3
So the exact chip is still a little fuzzy. The only S4 chip that really seems to match is the 8960, but that doesn't come in 1.2GHz and an HTC rep has said it's not underclocked. So it seems like the possibilities are:
It's the 1.2GHz 8930 featuring the faster Adreno 305 GPU that wont be released until Q3
Verizon/HTC somehow, and for reasons unknown, managed to get Qualcomm to custom make a special 1.2GHz S4 with the Adreno 225 GPU and LTE.
The HTC rep that said it's not underclocked was either lying or mistaken, and it is in fact the 8960 underclocked to 1.2GHz.
Personally, I think that last one is the most plausible, but who knows.
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Ooooh! If it is the last one, then we could potentially overclock it (kill battery life, of course ) and get the same performance or even better than the One X due to the lower resolution!!! Oh! My God! I just had a nerdgasm!!!
I can confirm it has a 220 gpu. Even underclass to what it is though it's very fast and smooth
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I can confirm it has a 220 gpu. Even underclass to what it is though it's very fast and smooth
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pics or it didn't happen, lol
Benchmarks will tell the tale. There is currently no documentation stating what it has exactly.
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Benchmarks will tell the tale. There is currently no documentation stating what it has exactly.
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Well heres a benchmark for you to drool at
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werdna87 said:
Well heres a benchmark for you to drool at
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Where did you get that picture?
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litetaker said:
Where did you get that picture?
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either hes a verizon/htc tester or has early access to a production device
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either hes a verizon/htc tester or has early access to a production device
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Or some journalist was able to install and run the quadrant benchmark at CTIA... who knows!
Well, as per this link:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...rrier-gets-180-day-exclusivity-period_id28877
This score certainly isn't up to snuff with the One S. However, it is important to note that there is a 300MHz clock difference and the 3d scores are very similar. 1954 vs 2173, a gap like that might be influenced by clock speed. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that it has the 225 just yet.
Edit: Actually it might be the 220 because the rezound scores very similarly.
Things just keep getting worse for this guy.
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Umm, isn't that next month? Or later, cause aren't we suppose to be getting ics early q4
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A2CKilla said:
Umm, isn't that next month? Or later, cause aren't we suppose to be getting ics early q4
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We may never know. Maybe Moto could push the upgrade to 2013 so we will never get it because 2012-the end of the world is coming! Lol.
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New updated phone about to drop,probably be next year
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I think Moto will stick to the timeline they have posted. ICS has been in development for the Photon for a while now and from all I have read with the re-structuring of Moto Mobility it seems they are pushing to get devices on the latest Android releases. Sounds to me like Google wants Moto to get on an update schedule similar to what the Nexus devices are on. This should not be a problem with Moto not having to support so many devices in the future.
I do hope that if/when ICS does come to the Photon it is a better release than what other manufacturers have pushed out. Everyone I have heard from that has gotten ICS hates it and wants GB back. Of course the best bet is to wait until our developers get the proper drivers and incorporate the missing pieces into custom roms and run those.
Only thing I'm worried about is a permalocked boot loader ICS
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Jaemostoriginal said:
Only thing I'm worried about is a permalocked boot loader ICS
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Well....I think it is a good sign that the Photon Q is coming with an unlocked bootloader option right out of the box. At least that is what the Sprint guy in here posted.
Samsung Captivate Glide (same Tegra 2 chip) got its ICS leak.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831561
Maybe our devs will manage to pull drivers and other crap from that release?
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Samsung Captivate Glide (same Tegra 2 chip) got its ICS leak.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831561
Maybe our devs will manage to pull drivers and other crap from that release?
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I would PM Joker or Th3Bill with that link, just in case they missed it.
i don't care whether we get the official ICS, or even the drivers from another phone as long as the drivers are taken, and can be used towards all of the problems with the custom ICS and JB roms i will be happy. Hopefully if we cant get drivers from another phone the official ICS will get rolled out soon.
This is a seriously dead topic that's been discussed over and over and over again. 12 months in a year, 4 quarters in a year. 12 divided by 4 is 3. Each quarter is three months long. Q3 ends with September. Q4 begins with October. Atrix ICS before end of September. Photon ICS before end of December. Atrix and photon = same hardware. Meaning, our jb and ICS ROMs will be perfectly stable shortly after the atrix ICS gets released.
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i was just about to say. Q4 starts in october
captivate ics wont really change terribly much. look at the xoom ics or even gtab 10.1. all used diff camera sensors/wrappers so sure the chipset is the same.. but the crap that is needed for stable isnt :/
unless something has drastically changed since the last time i talked to joker the camera was the last big hurdle?
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This is a seriously dead topic that's been discussed over and over and over again. 12 months in a year, 4 quarters in a year. 12 divided by 4 is 3. Each quarter is three months long. Q3 ends with September. Q4 begins with October. Atrix ICS before end of September. Photon ICS before end of December. Atrix and photon = same hardware. Meaning, our jb and ICS ROMs will be perfectly stable shortly after the atrix ICS gets released.
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thanks for answering the post, along with a little extra info
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i was just about to say. Q4 starts in october
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thanks for just answering my post
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thanks for answering the post, but being an a** at the same time -_-
thanks for just answering my post
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So if i would have left out that first sentence I wouldn't be an ass? It was a factual statement, not a shot at you. I see you actively contributing around here quite often, I was surprised that a regular such as yourself would start a thread posing a question in which there are many other threads that have the answer. A little reading wouldn't hurt is all im saying.
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So if i would have left out that first sentence I wouldn't be an ass? It was a factual statement, not a shot at you. I see you actively contributing around here quite often, I was surprised that a regular such as yourself would start a thread posing a question in which there are many other threads that have the answer. A little reading wouldn't hurt is all im saying.
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Well sir, I retract my statement, and issue an apology
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captivate ics wont really change terribly much. look at the xoom ics or even gtab 10.1. all used diff camera sensors/wrappers so sure the chipset is the same.. but the crap that is needed for stable isnt :/
unless something has drastically changed since the last time i talked to joker the camera was the last big hurdle?
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actually i read a discussion somewhere, they are not the same, cos tablets are based on Harmony board (tegra 250 T20), and mobiles on Ventana (tegra 250 AP20H) and some crappy little difference between them didnt let the devs do that.
shabbypenguin said:
captivate ics wont really change terribly much. look at the xoom ics or even gtab 10.1. all used diff camera sensors/wrappers so sure the chipset is the same.. but the crap that is needed for stable isnt :/
unless something has drastically changed since the last time i talked to joker the camera was the last big hurdle?
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Those tablets use a different type of Tegra 2, that's why. Photon/ Atrix= AP20H, Xoom/ Galaxy Tabs= T20. The captivate uses the same chip set as these Moto Tegra devices. People from the Atrix forums have started looking into the captivate leaks for anything, just be patient and wait for the news
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understandable that its the same tegra chipset but that doesnt mean its the same camera module. this is a different manufacturer we are talking about (samsung at that so it actually has a decent camera unlike moto)
Unless you're stuck with a locked bootloader or fortunate enough to be in a WiMax market, head over to the developer's forum and load one of the many ICS or JB based ROMs. Joker's CM10 based ROM is as stable or better of an experience than I ever had with factory.