I posted this in the Inc2 forum before I realized there was a Inc4G forum. . .
Well, I'm sold. Those are the two magic words I needed to hear. Can't wait for that bad boy.
http://androidheadlines.com/2012/05/featured-verizon-wireless-turns-down-htcs-one-series-in-favor-of-droid-incredible-4g-lte.html
Even though the incredible 4G seems to have a few things that it lacks compared to the One X, it does have an unlocked bootloader which the One X does not. It seems that there was quite following of fans that wouldn’t have it any other way. This small group of android nerds is extremely passionate about the capability to tweak and change their devices. For those of you that are unfamiliar with what an unlocked bootloader does, it allows you somewhat endless possibilities to customize the firmware (or OS) on your device. Which can enhance its user experience, looks, features and the like. This move by HTC to keep the bootloader unlocked is because HTC says they fully support the ability to keep things open and customizable.
HTC is fully committed to the bootloader unlocking program and that Verizon is also completely behind it. Ultimately leading to its choice to make the incredible 4G LTE with this feature. While Verizon is behind the idea now. They could of course change their mind at any time.
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Hell yeah!
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Seems more like HTC will let the bootloader be unlocked via their site. That's not the unlock you are used to for your inc2
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I bet the clip will work on this device for a permanent s-off though ... At least there's hope . . .
I'll just repost my question from the Dinc2 forum, in case someone watching it here wants to chip in their thoughts:
But still, the fact remains that it will be unlocked by HTC's online unlock tool. Which does not grant S-OFF. Granted that this is better than nothing, but I really want to know how much can be done without S-OFF. I mean, S-OFF was a huge thing for rezound, which recently got it. And I heard, until S-OFF was achieved, AOSP ROMs were impossible on Rezound. So, how much can be done by simply unlocking it by HTC's tool and not getting S-OFF? What is the difference between unlocked bootloader with S-ON (i.e. HTC's unlock method) and unlocked Bootloader via S-OFF like I did for the Dinc2? That is my basic question.
litetaker said:
I'll just repost my question from the Dinc2 forum, in case someone watching it here wants to chip in their thoughts:
But still, the fact remains that it will be unlocked by HTC's online unlock tool. Which does not grant S-OFF. Granted that this is better than nothing, but I really want to know how much can be done without S-OFF. I mean, S-OFF was a huge thing for rezound, which recently got it. And I heard, until S-OFF was achieved, AOSP ROMs were impossible on Rezound. So, how much can be done by simply unlocking it by HTC's tool and not getting S-OFF? What is the difference between unlocked bootloader with S-ON (i.e. HTC's unlock method) and unlocked Bootloader via S-OFF like I did for the Dinc2? That is my basic question.
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You sir, have been misinformed. S-off on the rebound WAS a great achievement but has nothing to do with aosp. The problem with that is the RIL which will be an issue for the inc4g also.
Also, an unlocked bootloader is not all the different from s-off but does have so.e huge problems like nit being able to downgrade easily if you accidentally run an RUU that updates the baseband. It also give issues with version numbers if leaks are released but that issue has been fixed. Kernels can not be flashed via recovery and you have to lock the bootloader whenever you want to run an RUU. I may be forgetting some other differences but the last and IMO biggest is that once you unlock, it will always say re-locked at the top which COULD cause warranty issues even though it has nit for anyone so far.
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If you want AOSP so bad then just get a Nexus. Personally, I'm stoked for some ICS with Sense 4.
According to that article. It says it won't have the S4 cpu in it.
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According to that article. It says it won't have the S4 cpu in it.
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I read it has a S4 but doesn't, so I'm like huh?
So S3.5?
Anyway, maybe the method that got Rezound users like myself S-OFF can get I4GLTE users theirs, such a clever method at that.
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According to that article. It says it won't have the S4 cpu in it.
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I read it has a S4 but doesn't, so I'm like huh?
So S3.5?
Anyway, maybe the method that got Rezound users like myself S-OFF can get I4GLTE users theirs, such a clever method at that.
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the official annoucement from vzw and htc said it was a s4 chip
its just not the same exact chip as the one s or one x
i gave me best guess on the actual chip here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26102928&postcount=41
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According to that article. It says it won't have the S4 cpu in it.
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I read it has a S4 but doesn't, so I'm like huh?
So S3.5?
Anyway, maybe the method that got Rezound users like myself S-OFF can get I4GLTE users theirs, such a clever method at that.
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the official annoucement from vzw and htc said it was a s4 chip
its just not the same exact chip as the one s or one x
i gave me best guess on the actual chip here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26102928&postcount=41
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To graymonkey44, you misinterpreted the article. As nitsuj17 said, they were saying that it's not the same chip. It's still an S4.
To nitsuj17, it definitely won't have the msm 8930 that you suspected, since that has the Adreno 305 GPU which won't even be released until Q3
So the exact chip is still a little fuzzy. The only S4 chip that really seems to match is the 8960, but that doesn't come in 1.2GHz and an HTC rep has said it's not underclocked. So it seems like the possibilities are:
It's the 1.2GHz 8930 featuring the faster Adreno 305 GPU that wont be released until Q3
Verizon/HTC somehow, and for reasons unknown, managed to get Qualcomm to custom make a special 1.2GHz S4 with the Adreno 225 GPU and LTE.
The HTC rep that said it's not underclocked was either lying or mistaken, and it is in fact the 8960 underclocked to 1.2GHz.
Personally, I think that last one is the most plausible, but who knows.
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To graymonkey44, you misinterpreted the article. As nitsuj17 said, they were saying that it's not the same chip. It's still an S4.
To nitsuj17, it definitely won't have the msm 8930 that you suspected, since that has the Adreno 305 GPU which won't even be released until Q3
So the exact chip is still a little fuzzy. The only S4 chip that really seems to match is the 8960, but that doesn't come in 1.2GHz and an HTC rep has said it's not underclocked. So it seems like the possibilities are:
It's the 1.2GHz 8930 featuring the faster Adreno 305 GPU that wont be released until Q3
Verizon/HTC somehow, and for reasons unknown, managed to get Qualcomm to custom make a special 1.2GHz S4 with the Adreno 225 GPU and LTE.
The HTC rep that said it's not underclocked was either lying or mistaken, and it is in fact the 8960 underclocked to 1.2GHz.
Personally, I think that last one is the most plausible, but who knows.
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Ooooh! If it is the last one, then we could potentially overclock it (kill battery life, of course ) and get the same performance or even better than the One X due to the lower resolution!!! Oh! My God! I just had a nerdgasm!!!
I can confirm it has a 220 gpu. Even underclass to what it is though it's very fast and smooth
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I can confirm it has a 220 gpu. Even underclass to what it is though it's very fast and smooth
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pics or it didn't happen, lol
Benchmarks will tell the tale. There is currently no documentation stating what it has exactly.
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Benchmarks will tell the tale. There is currently no documentation stating what it has exactly.
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Well heres a benchmark for you to drool at
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Well heres a benchmark for you to drool at
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Where did you get that picture?
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Where did you get that picture?
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either hes a verizon/htc tester or has early access to a production device
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either hes a verizon/htc tester or has early access to a production device
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Or some journalist was able to install and run the quadrant benchmark at CTIA... who knows!
Well, as per this link:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...rrier-gets-180-day-exclusivity-period_id28877
This score certainly isn't up to snuff with the One S. However, it is important to note that there is a 300MHz clock difference and the 3d scores are very similar. 1954 vs 2173, a gap like that might be influenced by clock speed. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that it has the 225 just yet.
Edit: Actually it might be the 220 because the rezound scores very similarly.
Things just keep getting worse for this guy.
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Me and my mother are switching to At&t soon, and I'm kinda stuck. I have an Epic on Sprint now and development is top notch. Miui,cm7,cm9, sense ports are being worked on, its just great. What my issue is, is I can't figure out what phone to get. I'm stuck mostly between the HTC Vivid and the OG SGSII. Development is huge for me, I'm a terrible flashaholic. I NEED good stuff to flash such as cm, miui, and stuff like that. Benchmarks don't matter to me.. but development does.. what do you guys think I should do?
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What answer do you expect from this forum? You think people here would tell you to go to the vivid? Not very likely
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What answer do you expect from this forum? You think people here would tell you to go to the vivid? Not very likely
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Well, someone in vivid told me to get sgsii, so, anything is possible.
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nbunn said:
Me and my mother are switching to At&t soon, and I'm kinda stuck. I have an Epic on Sprint now and development is top notch. Miui,cm7,cm9, sense ports are being worked on, its just great. What my issue is, is I can't figure out what phone to get. I'm stuck mostly between the HTC Vivid and the OG SGSII. Development is huge for me, I'm a terrible flashaholic. I NEED good stuff to flash such as cm, miui, and stuff like that. Benchmarks don't matter to me.. but development does.. what do you guys think I should do?
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I don't think anyone here would tell you to not get our device...
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The HTC Vivid is more comparable to the Skyrocket really. It's huge.
I've only had the HTC Inspire 4G but that phone was worlds harder to mod than the SGS2. HTC seems more adamant about people not rooting their devices, and for that reason I'd say go for the SGS2. Plus this phone basically shares the i9100 community since the Hellraiser by Entropy. I don't know much about the Vivid community so I cant comment there. The only appealing thing to me about HTC is its Sense UI. I personally like it better than TouchWiz.
Honestly if Dev support is what you're looking for then this is the phone for your, vivid can't even compare.
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Vivid - Locked bootloader, enough said...
Entropy512 said:
Vivid - Locked bootloader, enough said...
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Thought the updated HTC tool took care of that?
Anyway. Get the i777 OG SGSII. Nuff said.
Any Galaxy S variant will be the best option for development, mainly because the international versions get ported over relatively quickly and have huge dev support.
Go with the vivid, faster data, better ui, better hardware and will probably have ICS before the SG2, ohh and yes you can unlock the bootloader with developer tool.
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Go with the vivid, faster data, better ui, better hardware and will probably have ICS before the SG2, ohh and yes you can unlock the bootloader with developer tool.
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Better UI is subjective, i find sense to be a little too over the top with animations and it slows the phone down with its bloat. We have better hardware no question thoug, the vivid may have better build quality, but its hardware is definitely not better (Exynos>>>>>>>> Snapdragon). The S II never had a locked bootloader to begin with either so we didn't have to wait months for that. Also, what the hell makes you think we'll get ICS after the vivid? we are waiting for two things that will be solved when source is released for the international Galaxy S II i9100, which has a huge developer following unlike the vivid.
Tough call. I love my gs2. I'm always looking at flashing too. Since the hellraiser package from the great entropy it opened the doors to almost all the roms at the I9100 section. Now we have a flashaholic tool also. Only downfall for the time being is us waiting for kernel source for ics. Which should hopefully be real soon. Most all the devs in the I9100 are now doing ics roms and unfortunately we can't run it properly. But when that day comes when we can watch out, the flood gates will be wide open to tons of roms.
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Thought the updated HTC tool took care of that?
Anyway. Get the i777 OG SGSII. Nuff said.
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They still have s-on. They can flash roms, but not radios, or rooted ruu's.
But anyways get whatever you like, the vivid is a great device in my opinion. (I'm a sense lover). Touchwiz 4 l love also, I picked this phone because of the processor, its a Samsung
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Not fully locked yet not fully unlocked either. Its perfectly usable.
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HTC is known for small batteries and the Vivid is in that category.
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Not fully locked yet not fully unlocked either. Its perfectly usable.
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Don't you have both Pirateghost? If you had to get rid of one, which would it be and why?
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HTC is known for small batteries and the Vivid is in that category.
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battery life is definitely worse on my vivid.
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Don't you have both Pirateghost? If you had to get rid of one, which would it be and why?
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Whoa. Don't make me pick one of my children!
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HTC is known for small batteries and the Vivid is in that category.
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Any LTE device will deliver poor battery life - just like UMTS (3G) was bad for battery in the first 1-2 years of its existence.
After a year or two, LTE will hopefully no longer have the power penalty it currently has, but right now, LTE = battery hogging fatty. Just look at how awful all of Verizon's phones have been in the weight/battery life arena since they moved to LTE. Supposedly the radios in AT&T's LTE phones are better, but all reports I've heard indicate otherwise.
The Vivid boot unlocker is a HTC site, once you use it your phone's warranty is null and void. Really nice HTC.
GS2 has CM7, MIUI, numerous hellraised roms, and Samsung touchwiz roms. Development in the Vivid is much more limited. Maybe that will change in the future but who can say.
Good point - technically the flash counter on GS2 voids your warranty, but it's REALLY easy to bypass that currently.
Voiding warranty due to custom binaries is lame - If a manufacturer is concerned with custom firmware causing problems, they simply need to make it easy to return-to-stock. None of this bull**** with putting minefields in the path of those who want custom firmware that make it easier to brick.
Samsung already has this capability, but they only enable it from the factory on the Galaxy Player. With a full return-to-stock image, the Galaxy Player 5.0 cannot be hardbricked by any means - if the bootloaders are corrupted, it falls back to a built-in bootloader mode within the CPU hardware. All Hummingbird and Exynos devices have this capability but Samsung usually disables it.
HTC does a really bad job with sources, some of us already know that.
Some things you might want to know
1- the One X+ Can not flash a custom rom with its boot loader locked, unless of course there an S OFF method, but that's a low possibility. In other words HTC in some cases takes its time to release a boot loader unlock method. Usually they do a good job with this. What they suck at is giving Kernel sources. We won't see a custom kernel until December if the device was released in October
2- Its hard to do ports based of sense, so development could go for the worst with very little to no source and playing around with sense is not really a walk in the park
The one x+ looks like a good device. Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
Just giving a heads up.
As previous One X great Devs found a way to move on development, sure X+ will have a lot of dev!
It's not a big improvement against the One X (international) though, but after the new Nexus will be a LG, I will maybe even buy this device as my next phone and will do some stuff for it..
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Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
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Not so much.
"Wow, that didn't take long. Only hours after the HTC One X+ was unveiled officially, we now know where U.S. consumers will have the chance to get it from. AT&T just announced that it will be the exclusive U.S. carrier to offer the HTC One X+ this fall."
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...uad-core-Tegra-3-and-LTE-are-on-board_id35105
Torxx, are you sure it will be LG? Any sources?
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Torxx, are you sure it will be LG? Any sources?
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Simple google search solved the problem.
http://m.intomobile.com/2012/10/05/lg-optimus-nexus-announcement-pegged-late-october/
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Torxx, are you sure it will be LG? Any sources?
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There's a whole series of them apparently. The HTC one looks the best. 1080p quad core s4 5 inch screen (12.7cm) and 2gb ram. Very similar specs to the lg one, but it'll have sense themes in the customization center and perhaps other interesting features.
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Not so much.
"Wow, that didn't take long. Only hours after the HTC One X+ was unveiled officially, we now know where U.S. consumers will have the chance to get it from. AT&T just announced that it will be the exclusive U.S. carrier to offer the HTC One X+ this fall."
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...uad-core-Tegra-3-and-LTE-are-on-board_id35105
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That's a shame. I would've loved this phone.
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There's a whole series of them apparently. The HTC one looks the best. 1080p quad core s4 5 inch screen (12.7cm) and 2gb ram. Very similar specs to the lg one, but it'll have sense themes in the customization center and perhaps other interesting features.
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Source, please?
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-droid-incredible-x-rumored-to-be-googles-nexus-5-20120925/
http://www.pc-tablet.com/7693-andro...on-center-project-roadrunner-enhanced-google/
Wtf is happening with htc? Eclipze and me have htc amazes, and you can ask anyone that owns that phone, development is a pain
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Well the profits speak volumes. They're simply not retaining userbase.
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It's not a big improvement against the One X (international) though, but after the new Nexus will be a LG, I will maybe even buy this device as my next phone and will do some stuff for it..
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LG is not that good name over on xda, as the support and software was crap. But most off times the hardware in Lg phones is damn nice and new tech so with google behind and no locked crap it might be a intressting phone.
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EclipzeRemix said:
HTC does a really bad job with sources, some of us already know that.
Some things you might want to know
1- the One X+ Can not flash a custom rom with its boot loader locked, unless of course there an S OFF method, but that's a low possibility. In other words HTC in some cases takes its time to release a boot loader unlock method. Usually they do a good job with this. What they suck at is giving Kernel sources. We won't see a custom kernel until December if the device was released in October
2- Its hard to do ports based of sense, so development could go for the worst with very little to no source and playing around with sense is not really a walk in the park
The one x+ looks like a good device. Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
Just giving a heads up.
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Lame.
lazarat said:
Lame.
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So is your thanks meter....
Just giving my 2 cents on the matter
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EclipzeRemix said:
HTC does a really bad job with sources, some of us already know that.
Some things you might want to know
1- the One X+ Can not flash a custom rom with its boot loader locked, unless of course there an S OFF method, but that's a low possibility. In other words HTC in some cases takes its time to release a boot loader unlock method. Usually they do a good job with this. What they suck at is giving Kernel sources. We won't see a custom kernel until December if the device was released in October
2- Its hard to do ports based of sense, so development could go for the worst with very little to no source and playing around with sense is not really a walk in the park
The one x+ looks like a good device. Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
Just giving a heads up.
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So you're saying for someone like me who buys phones to slap CyanogenMod on, I should expect poor results with the One X+? I will avoid then.
However, does sharing Tegra 3 with the Nexus 7 benefit the One series any? Did the One X get helped by the Nexus 7? I see this kinda like the SGS1 phones getting benefit from the Nexus S sharing SoC. The SGS2 is totally screwed as you know as it still lacks hwcomposer and stuff for CM10.
Yes I could get a Nexus, but sometimes I happen to like the design of non nexus phones more. The One X/X+ are truly sexy phones to me, and as long as they're decent to develop for I'd jump in.
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So you're saying for someone like me who buys phones to slap CyanogenMod on, I should expect poor results with the One X+? I will avoid then.
However, does sharing Tegra 3 with the Nexus 7 benefit the One series any? Did the One X get helped by the Nexus 7? I see this kinda like the SGS1 phones getting benefit from the Nexus S sharing SoC. The SGS2 is totally screwed as you know as it still lacks hwcomposer and stuff for CM10.
Yes I could get a Nexus, but sometimes I happen to like the design of non nexus phones more. The One X/X+ are truly sexy phones to me, and as long as they're decent to develop for I'd jump in.
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This could be possible but we are never sure, either way getting something like CM booting is only half the work, the real test is getting wifi, Bluetooth, GPS etc working without HTC releasing anything. The only way to get them working is work arounds. If you are a flashaholic that likes roms that are not based off stock then stay away.
If you like Sense then by all means get it
Yes totally screwed. Sammy can kiss my ***
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As someone who has an HTC flyer I must say, It saddens my to hear that HTC hardware isn't an option.
HTC has some aesthetically pleasing hardware and sense itself can be pretty nice. The tablet just feels great in your hands, and has a nice screen..
It absolutely sucks that HTC lets themselves get held back by poor sources.. I'm "ok" with my tablet not having the most up to date version constantly.. I didn't sign a contract for it.. but, I really don't want a phone that I'm locked into having for 2 years to be left out for no real good reason.
Still, I'd kill to see a smooth running JB rom that is factory quality on my flyer.
Thanks for the warning.
I have a Sensation and if it wasn't for CM this thing would have been in the garbage. I'm hoping to pick up one of these and I'm sure development work for it will eventually come around. It needs some time.
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Get ready for the ride ladies and gentlemen.
Justin Case @TeamAndIRC
"and we have unlock on the HTC DNA and all non htvdev unlock HTC phones. Some conflict of intrest things to clear up prior to release"
COME ON BOYS!!!! I cant wait.
AOSP please!!!
So it is unlocked now?
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So it is unlocked now?
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According to jcase yes. They just have to work out a few conflicts before release.
I don't think s-off has been achieved yet tho.
Hell yeah
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Yes!!!!!
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AOSP please!!!
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Lol, funny
Bring it on!!!!! I'm enjoying Sense, I just want to rid of all the bloat crap from within the phone.
Lord on this day I am thankful for the bountiful spread of food I am about to consume, that I decided to pull the trigger on the DNA without root at the time, for Android, and for the devs that found a way to release the insane power this phone holds within.
Amen.
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Lord on this day I am thankful for the bountiful spread of food I am about to consume, that I decided to pull the trigger on the DNA without root at the time, for Android, and for the devs that found a way to release the insane power this phone holds within.
Amen.
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lol
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According to jcase yes. They just have to work out a few conflicts before release.
I don't think s-off has been achieved yet tho.
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From what I gather, NO HTC phone without an SD card has been able to achieve s-off. Could be another reason VZ commissioned this phone without an SD, but I'd bet it has more to do with forcing cloud usage and streaming on the masses. Too bad I paid outright for this beast and will be raping VZ data whenever possible..
Anyway, s-off isn't a huge deal, really just means we have to flash kernels from fastboot.
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From what I gather, NO HTC phone without an SD card has been able to achieve s-off. Could be another reason VZ commissioned this phone without an SD, but I'd bet it has more to do with forcing cloud usage and streaming on the masses. Too bad I paid outright for this beast and will be raping VZ data whenever possible..
Anyway, s-off isn't a huge deal, really just means we have to flash kernels from fastboot.
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Either way....it's great news.
Surprisingly I'm really enjoying all the eye candy that Sense brings to the table. Of course aosp is great, but sense isn't really a memory hog like it used to be since phones have so much ram and faster processors than some laptops
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BFirebird101 said:
Surprisingly I'm really enjoying all the eye candy that Sense brings to the table. Of course aosp is great, but sense isn't really a memory hog like it used to be since phones have so much ram and faster processors than some laptops
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Pretty crappy laptop to be slower than a phone
adrynalyne said:
Pretty crappy laptop to be slower than a phone
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Dude, Im still rockin a 2005 Model Alienware with 1GB Ram and a T5500 1.66 Ghz Dual Core proc.
I have kept it lean and reloaded it a few times and it rocks just like day one!
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Dude, Im still rockin a 2005 Model Alienware with 1GB Ram and a T5500 1.66 Ghz Dual Core proc.
I have kept it lean and reloaded it a few times and it rocks just like day one!
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I'd commit seppuku if I had to use that lol.
Justin Case @TeamAndIRC
Happy thanks giving, SuperCID on 100% stock locked retail HTC Droid DNA http://i.imgur.com/jJKEP.png
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https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/271754491613818881
I'm going to make love to jcase again.
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adrynalyne said:
I'd commit seppuku if I had to use that lol.
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Lol, Its pretty much a streaming portal now Since I have swapped over to the new Chromebook.
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android41faq/ Looks like we're hopefully getting JB after all
then consider our ability to provide updates to products from 2011.
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You reading the same thing I am, or are you projecting?
Not necessarily.... we meet the spec requirements, but they said that devices from 2011 would be met with consideration. Not exactly a guarantee. Plus, if we got sense 3.6 in the last update because our phone "couldn't handle" sense 4, why would they then update us to sense 4+? Okay, I'm ending my pessimistic post of the day now.
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It would be awesome, but I'm not holding my breath
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I hope that we do get JB, but considering the Thunderbolt is still waiting for ICS, I can't say that I am too optimistic.
But HTC phones will sometimes get two upgrades. The incredible did.
It's really up to Verizon to let it through, I would think. So it's more of a maybe, but I'm not so optimistic that it will happen. Hopefully the Rezound will get JB, though. I'd love me some stock Sense 4 for a change.
Not to be a pessimist, but I feel that there is pretty much 0 chance we'll get an official jb update. There weren't enough rezounds sold for HTC to care, and vzw makes it even harder on them. They aren't going to go through the effort. All the focus is on s4 devices . I'm crossing my fingers that any msm8660 device gets a JB update from HTC so we can pull from it.
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Why would HTC spend the money, time, and resources to create a JB ROM that runs Sense 3.6? They never promised more than ICS for the Rez as a selling point, so they owe us nothing.
They wouldn't give us a Sense 4 update because they have already stated in print that the Rezound doesn't have the hardware to run it. But that's only half true.
Of course, many of us are running some variation of Sense 4 now on our Rezounds. So while it is technically possible, some concessions had to be made. The Rezound can't do continuous camera shooting very well. Also, still image capture while shooting video is not possible. These features were a huge part of what made Sense 4 so great to HTC (conjecture on my part, but an educated guess based on the advertising), so their official stance on Sense 4 on the Rezound does make sense.
HTC releasing a 3.6 Jelly Bean Rom seems highly unlikely.
Hey the tb was updated to 3.6 in the leak from what like 2.1? But anyway we've technically already got 2 updates, 3 if you count the global leak...
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BBEgo said:
Why would HTC spend the money, time, and resources to create a JB ROM that runs Sense 3.6? They never promised more than ICS for the Rez as a selling point, so they owe us nothing.
They wouldn't give us a Sense 4 update because they have already stated in print that the Rezound doesn't have the hardware to run it. But that's only half true.
Of course, many of us are running some variation of Sense 4 now on our Rezounds. So while it is technically possible, some concessions had to be made. The Rezound can't do continuous camera shooting very well. Also, still image capture while shooting video is not possible. These features were a huge part of what made Sense 4 so great to HTC (conjecture on my part, but an educated guess based on the advertising), so their official stance on Sense 4 on the Rezound does make sense.
HTC releasing a 3.6 Jelly Bean Rom seems highly unlikely.
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Nobody here mentioned HTC owing us anything, I just posted a statement by HTC.....
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Hey the tb was updated to 3.6 in the leak from what like 2.1? But anyway we've technically already got 2 updates, 3 if you count the global leak...
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He meant 2 android version bumps. The Dinc has had like 1,000 minor updates
I really don't think htc would even consider trying to update the rezound. It would require so much work. lets just hope chad can pull it off!
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Nobody here mentioned HTC owing us anything, I just posted a statement by HTC.....
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Yeah I know. Sorry if I came off as hateful or anything. I guess I was just curious as to how anyone who read that statement would interpret it to mean that they were most likely gonna update the Rez to JB.
I got the opposite impression. Guess it's just a glass half-full/empty thing. :beer:
If they did upgrade us to a JB (not Justin Bieber) then I'd be beyond excited and looking forward to what awesome surprises our glorious devs here would be able to come up with.
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I really don't think htc would even consider trying to update the rezound. It would require so much work. lets just hope chad can pull it off!
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He already has pulled it off, I'm running jb right now. though its not 100% yet, its pretty good as is now.
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jon7701 said:
He already has pulled it off, I'm running jb right now. though its not 100% yet, its pretty good as is now.
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pretty close to it though! awesome stuff... it just seems to be missing something.... i know! butter!
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pretty close to it though! awesome stuff... it just seems to be missing something.... i know! butter!
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Yea, thats pretty much all that is missing but from what i understand i think chad is already close to having ION put in which is supposed to make it alot smoother.
jon7701 said:
Yea, thats pretty much all that is missing but from what i understand i think chad is already close to having ION put in which is supposed to make it alot smoother.
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hey i see in your signature thing that youre underclocked and undervolted. does that -150 make a big difference in battery life?
An update to JB would convince me to buy another HTC device instead of going back to Samsung. I miss the OLED screen.
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A friend of mine pointed me to this from Droid central. It makes me hopeful for our Photon!
http://m.androidcentral.com/bootloa...ix-hd-razr-m?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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A friend of mine pointed me to this from Droid central. It makes me hopeful for our Photon!
http://m.androidcentral.com/bootloa...ix-hd-razr-m?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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Not to burst ur bubble but this news doesnt help the photon bootloader unlock at all. First off the phones listed are newer phones in 2012 which were using the qualcomm chip which may be easier to unlock. Also it mentions that the droid bionic bootloader cannot be unlocked due to it using the TI omap 4 chip which proves my first point. Since the tegra 2 chip in the photon is so old, i doubt it will happen with the 2.3.5 update.
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Ok. Consider my bubble officially burst.
Our bootloader has locked with 2.3.5... but who'd run ICS/JB on this phone as a daily driver? No HWA, camcorder, and overall lack of performance kill newer android versions for this phone.