Hello! Two quick questions but they might answer each other:
1) Is it possible to run multiple ad networks at the exact same time, thus showing two ads on one screen from different ad networks?
2) Is it possible with any (popular) ad network to show multiple ads at the exact same time to increase profit?
The reason I ask is because I want to make a page in my app in which the user chooses to go through pages of apps instead of donating to me to show appreciation. Just wondering if there was a way to show multiple ads to get multiple incomes off the same pageview.
Thanks for any responses!
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Hello! Two quick questions but they might answer each other:
1) Is it possible to run multiple ad networks at the exact same time, thus showing two ads on one screen from different ad networks?
2) Is it possible with any (popular) ad network to show multiple ads at the exact same time to increase profit?
The reason I ask is because I want to make a page in my app in which the user chooses to go through pages of apps instead of donating to me to show appreciation. Just wondering if there was a way to show multiple ads to get multiple incomes off the same pageview.
Thanks for any responses!
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Yes you can run multiple ad networks on the same page, you can even put multiple ads from the same network on a page.
DesktopAd allows you to run multiple ad networks ads on the same page and run multiple ads from DesktopAd on one page. You just need to set you source code, call which one ad interface or both two ad interfaces. I am using 2 banners and 1 pop-ups on one page in my Windows 8.1 games. They bring me more ads revenue as a result.
Yes you can run multiple ad networks on the same page
Here is how I combine multiple ad networks
Admob + Adsota + Appstart
It is kinda weird that the least known Ad mobile network Adsota seems to work best for me. ITs eCPM is decent, quick and smooth SDK integration, quick payment. You will earn more with it. You can find it by googling "ads.appota"
Be careful
Don't use multiple ads at the exact same time. It's a violation of policy.
Think as a user. He don't click more than one ad in one session. If you want to get him a choice use offerwalls.
Maybe you should look at the video ads instead of placing more than 1 banner on single page.
It is more understandable by users and do not violate policies.
Derf321 said:
Hello! Two quick questions but they might answer each other:
1) Is it possible to run multiple ad networks at the exact same time, thus showing two ads on one screen from different ad networks?
2) Is it possible with any (popular) ad network to show multiple ads at the exact same time to increase profit?
The reason I ask is because I want to make a page in my app in which the user chooses to go through pages of apps instead of donating to me to show appreciation. Just wondering if there was a way to show multiple ads to get multiple incomes off the same pageview.
Thanks for any responses!
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Place an appwall in your app, that would be the best solution I'ld say as user is accessing the appwall freely.
Derf321 said:
Hello! Two quick questions but they might answer each other:
1) Is it possible to run multiple ad networks at the exact same time, thus showing two ads on one screen from different ad networks?
2) Is it possible with any (popular) ad network to show multiple ads at the exact same time to increase profit?
The reason I ask is because I want to make a page in my app in which the user chooses to go through pages of apps instead of donating to me to show appreciation. Just wondering if there was a way to show multiple ads to get multiple incomes off the same pageview.
Thanks for any responses!
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Hi!
Have you ever considered using Programmatic Mediation instead of using several ad networks?
There are a lot of problems and daily routines associated to use several ad networks at the same time that keeps you away on your core task (developing):
- many sign ups
- different SDK integrations
- sources of data for analysis
- different payments methods
- etc..
There are so many good programmatic solutions out there (Supersonic, Fyber, Mopub,..). I would personally recommend Appodeal. They are veterans of the industry and IMO they have the best "all in one" solution in the market
Hoping this helps
Cheers!!
Could you contact me, so I will share more details regarding this way of monetization? My Skype: anna_bashyrova.clickky
Also be careful with banner placement - I had a top banner that was obscuring a part of the UI (nothing clickable, just a label+image) and I got an email from google to fix it or they will take down the app in 30 days or so.
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Hello,
I've been reading a few threads and posts about earning revenue from apps without the use of advertising. I've used Admob network before, but over the past month and a half I've used Sellaring ad network. These guys do audio ads and they add a few good dollars to my pocket each month. In fact, a few more months of incoming ad revenue (and more users to my apps) and I may be able to cut down my day job.
I want to ask here, why is there a great objection to advertising on apps? I see a lot of the opposition here among XDA forum members and much less of it on any other forum. Ad revenue is a potential that can give developers the resource to develop more... this is what many of us want isn't it?
Hope I'm not offending anyone, would appreciate your input.
I don't think anyone here objects to in-app adds. There are many apps with both ad-supported and paid ad-free versions, so people will either buy them or use the ad-supported free version. Those kind of ads don't really bother people. I think the biggest problem people have with ads is with ad-delivery systems like AirPush. Those are intrusive and ruin the experience of using the phone. Coming from the internet, it doesn't feel right to get ads pushed to your notification bar automatically. It's like pop-up windows on many sites on the internet (eg. www.piratebay.se). Nobody likes them.
Since phones are our personal devices and we store so much of personal data on them, it doesn't feel right when we randomly receive ads like that without any control over it (except a convoluted opt-out process). It's an intrusion of privacy. That's the only issue in my opinion.
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But do you find banner ads less annoying when you're playing a game? Where do you draw the line between intrusive and non intrusive?
Ad networks like airpush and sellaring make it possible for app developers to make money from their entire installed base... even users who don't use the app every day. For me, that helps to generate a lot more cash.
I don't mind the little in app banner ads. The push notification ads are really annoying, and feels like malicious adware. I will instantly uninstall any app that pushed notification ads.
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I don't mind the little in app banner ads. The push notification ads are really annoying, and feels like malicious adware. I will instantly uninstall any app that pushed notification ads.
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Exactly. I uninstall anything that pushes notification bar ads as for me they feel intrusive whereas in app ads I have no problems with.
Dave
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What do you think of this? http://www.bangstyle.com/2012/03/google-phone-ads/
Looks like Google is making steps in the same direction.
Rob45 said:
What do you think of this? http://www.bangstyle.com/2012/03/google-phone-ads/
Looks like Google is making steps in the same direction.
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I think that's a stupid idea, but meh, if it makes money it can't be that bad. It better be optional though!
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But do you find banner ads less annoying when you're playing a game? Where do you draw the line between intrusive and non intrusive?
Ad networks like airpush and sellaring make it possible for app developers to make money from their entire installed base... even users who don't use the app every day. For me, that helps to generate a lot more cash.
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It's likely your app's users do not know where the ads are coming from. I know if I downloaded an app that caused constant advertising to appear on my phone, I would remove it immediately and never deal with that developer again. You have to also look at it from a value proposition. If you are not providing a user with value (i.e. they are not currently using your app), why should they be providing you with value via ad revenue? And imagine if every developer had separate, out-of-app ads. Your phone would be unusable.
Rob45 said:
What do you think of this? http://www.bangstyle.com/2012/03/google-phone-ads/
Looks like Google is making steps in the same direction.
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As long as it doesn't get as bad as the Google ads in this satire video from the Onion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtuxax8Dtk4
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As long as it doesn't get as bad as the Google ads in this satire video from the Onion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtuxax8Dtk4
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LMFAO the Yphone! Couldn't stop laughing!
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spunker88 said:
As long as it doesn't get as bad as the Google ads in this satire video from the Onion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtuxax8Dtk4
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That's hysterical!! But only cause it takes it to extreme...
Ring back ads are meant to be played during the Ring Back Tone.
nemosomen said:
It's likely your app's users do not know where the ads are coming from. I know if I downloaded an app that caused constant advertising to appear on my phone, I would remove it immediately and never deal with that developer again. You have to also look at it from a value proposition. If you are not providing a user with value (i.e. they are not currently using your app), why should they be providing you with value via ad revenue? And imagine if every developer had separate, out-of-app ads. Your phone would be unusable.
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I agree that you have to provide value to users. But considering most Android users don't pay for apps (statistically) and in-app ads do not convert very well, we're pretty much stuck in between. How can we generate revenue for our work?
What if the ads are fun jingles? Doesn't that provide something of value?
Labor isn't free and ads are just one way to monetize. The only question that matters is one related to the Golden Rule.
Would you use an app with ads? Does it bother you? If not, you are doing nothing wrong under the eyes of Bob. If users were to complain and bicker, then perhaps you have another question on your hands: to cater to the users or not.
Thankfully, my phone is rooted and running cyanogenmod, so I can block in-app ads as well as revoke permissions for others that use Air push. I realize that ads are how developers make money and keep the apps free, but that doesn't make me hate ads any less. Any app for which there is no way to block all ads is an app that I will not keep, period.
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exiquio said:
Labor isn't free and ads are just one way to monetize. The only question that matters is one related to the Golden Rule.
Would you use an app with ads? Does it bother you? If not, you are doing nothing wrong under the eyes of Bob. If users were to complain and bicker, then perhaps you have another question on your hands: to cater to the users or not.
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I'll put up with ads if they are non obtrusive and don't get in the way of using the program. Ads should only be present when the program is open and being used, meaning airpush ads should never be used. They are no different than malicious Windows adware programs that push pop-up ads.
It's not the ads, is the the network
Lets be honest, we all think ad networks are intrusive, messy to deal with (updating SDK's), and overall feel like we "cheapen" our apps when use them. But - they are the most popular "layer" you can slide into a free app in hopes of earning a little revenue from it. Using a completely different model such as fermium, or carrier-billing (Android only at the moment), or in-app purchases go beyond the scope of this post, but are better ways of earning revenue from an app in general.
Let's be honest:
No one like intrusion and advertisements like notifications, audio ads, video ads are intrusive.
Banner ads are fine as all they consume is a part of screen but some app started sending me notifications and I couldn't figure out the source, it's really annoying especially when notification can't be cleared down.
And in android 2.3, there no such feature to swipe the notification. You had to clear all notifications at a time.
I don't think developers object to app ads. There are many developers who have many apps on DesktopAd using banner ads and pop-ups to monetize apps. And I can see banner ads in many Windows apps, but I don't feel them bother me a lot. My apps are on Windows 8.1 desktop platform, I use small banners in my games, I think they would not bother my players. As a result I got generous profits from in-app ads. By the way, my ads SDK is from DesktopAd.com.
I make apps with tasker and I want to put them up on Play store in order to earn bucks, but they are not good/useful enough to sell directly. So I need to put ads and as far as I have read, I have to contact an ad network or two. But the problem is that I don't have programming knowledge at all! All I know is to make series of tasks and scenes in tasker and export them with tasker app factory so I have an apk file in the end.
I can make almost all apps which are usually seen in the top free apps' trends in Play Store.
So, how will I put their ads? Do they give something which involves the use of Android SDK? Or can I give them my apk file so they will incorporate their ads for me? (this doesn't seem safe though).
One solution for this may be that they give me HTML for the ad so I can put it in tasker's HTML box, but then the ad networks won't be sure if their ads are showed properly or I am showing something else over the HTML box.
Also, do I have to pay the ad networks in advance or do they only take the share from the advertisements' earnings?
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UPDATE: I have learned how to develop real android apps using java and I have been uploading my apps with the name "Apps By Usman".
I thank everyone for the replies and I want to let everyone know that although I personally do not require an answer to this thread now, anyone who can share information about tasker apps and their monetization should write a reply for those visitors who would be needing such answer.
the post is like 4 months old, so i don't know if you still need the answers, but since nobody answered yet, i guess i'll just try, who knows if it helps you or anybody else.
i never used tasker before, but as far as i know, ads network company is providing sdk we have to include in our development project, some company like millenial media (i don't know about other company though) even providing step by step instruction of how to put their ads into our application on their website.
from your question, i assume tasker is something like game maker or app maker, sorry if i'm wrong, well, since i've some experience in using game maker also, just in case i'm right, in game maker, if they support putting ads into application, usually they include some option to do so, and the sdk from the ads network company is already included, i don't know if tasker have something like this.
hope this helps.
Thanks for the reply, tasker is not a development environment, it is just an app which lets us invoke different functions of phone on a step by step manner, and even lets us export these sets of actions as apk files.
I have, however, found that there is a very little possibility for banner ads in it. So I have now learnt coding in java and I am now making apps in java.
The answer to this question, if someone else is interested is that tasker can invoke html banner ads with the help of webview object if your preferred ad network supports this format, but to make real and native apps, we need to learn java.
if anyone needs to integrate ads in your tasker aps contact us.we have developed a plugin to help you.
noorudheen km said:
if anyone needs to integrate ads in your tasker aps contact us.we have developed a plugin to help you.
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admob?
You can get benefits by advertising.
Each advertising platform, there will be a detailed access way and their own SDK,
My Skype is: s40319882
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noorudheen km said:
if anyone needs to integrate ads in your tasker aps contact us.we have developed a plugin to help you.
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I am willing to monetize my app made with Tasker, is there any easy easy way to insert or inject ads into the apk without codes?
As for paying the ad networks- are you looking to advertise your product or publish advertisements on your app? I guess it depends how many users you have! If you want to both promote your app and monetize your audience base, you should consider choosing a cross-promotional advertising company. I can give suggestions, but for now I suggest you google App cross promotion companies and pick the one that is best for you.
As for the tool kit, it again depends on the company, but a good company will have the option of SDK, API S2S, open RTB, JS tag, etc
ad mediation !!
hey , if still need answer , ther is some mediation website where you upload your apk and they put their sdk in it with some banner or interstitel ads but still limited as tyou can't control where ads will show up, only at the begining or the exit .
So being this thread has been revived, Ad networks do not put ads in your apps, you have to put the ad networks into your app. This is normally done by taking hours and hours of your precious time coding a SDK into your project. Boring.....
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ismaelbb said:
hey , if still need answer , ther is some mediation website where you upload your apk and they put their sdk in it with some banner or interstitel ads but still limited as tyou can't control where ads will show up, only at the begining or the exit .
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The point is being able to choose the placement and format for in-app ads easily. That's why mediation works so well.
Hey,
When I turned on my phone the RAM it was taking was 300 MB, after a days use it is now 500MB (even after pressing 'clear RAM' button).
I've entered Settings->apps->running and it shows only two small things (the keyboard and some weather widget) which combined take only 20 MB.
So what is the rest of the memory is beign allocated for?
Thank you.
Does your rom have Usage Manager in the app drawer?
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Here is the path to all your applications.
Settings -> Apps --> Swipe left until the menu Running --> On top you see the description "Show cached processes", klick on it --> now you see the rest of the running applications
pc103 said:
Does your rom have Usage Manager in the app drawer?
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No, the closest I have is "Task Manager".
lenovoOwner said:
Here is the path to all your applications.
Settings -> Apps --> Swipe left until the menu Running --> On top you see the description "Show cached processes", klick on it --> now you see the rest of the running applications
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Thank you, indeed I see some more RAM guzzlers, but It seems like they make up most of the addition but not all of it ... plus funny thing, when I try to close everything (in 'running' and 'cache) and I reenter- here it is there again...
1) Can I see all of the elements that take up my ram (the system as well)?
2) Can I close them properly?
Thank you very much.
PS. Is there some comfortable way to jump between apps? Like in the Iphone where by pressing the 'Home' button will show you a bar with a row of icons of the currently active processes....
For your PS question, it's a long press on the Home button (below the GS3 screen).
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The closest app I'm running to that option is Android Tuner Free. I got it for its storage optimization functions.
The busy interface has a learning curve, but it is a comprehensive & poweful app. I recommend Advanced mode & the One Click home screen.
For what you want, see both the Tasks & Kill All tiles. The first is a Task Mgr., the second is a quick 1 click. The app can teach a lot about what runs & why. It also offers a lot of fine control.
I also use the root app Startup Manager which is self explanatory & efficient.
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pc103 said:
For your PS question, it's a long press on the Home button (below the GS3 screen).
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LOL {hit myself on the head}, didn't occur me to try...
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pc103 said:
The closest app I'm running to that option is Android Tuner Free. I got it for its storage optimization functions.
The busy interface has a learning curve, but it is a comprehensive & poweful app. I recommend Advanced mode & the One Click home screen.
For what you want, see both the Tasks & Kill All tiles. The first is a Task Mgr., the second is a quick 1 click. The app can teach a lot about what runs & why. It also offers a lot of fine control.
I also use the root app Startup Manager which is self explanatory & efficient.
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I was hoping there is a way to avoid using apps...
Ok, I suppose it opens another question which I thought about creating a new thread for, but if the opportunity already arose...
How do you actually know if you can trust an app?
I'm kinda new to android and I'm much more used to the opennes of windows, also I'm pretty paranoid (a cellphone contains information 100 times more sensitive than a PC (At least my PC is like that)). I look at the permissions every app want to have and I'm simply aghast, I know of the logic behind those requests (at least for most of those I've seen) but I have zero transparency over what actions the app takes.
That really stress me a great deal...
oy-ster said:
How do you actually know if you can trust an app?. . . (a cellphone contains information 100 times more sensitive than a PC (At least my PC is like that)). I look at the permissions every app want to have and I'm simply aghast, I know of the logic behind those requests (at least for most of those I've seen) but I have zero transparency over what actions the app takes.
That really stress me a great deal...
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Digital Privacy
Well it certainly stresses the last remaining fiber of your privacy. I just watched the latest "60 Minutes Overtime" piece on data brokers framing this as a lifestyle issue. Step back from the small screen & consider that your actions on board the PC have a ripple effect on your smartphone. "NAI Opt out" & "Disconnect software" are useful PC search words.
Where it Went
I rarely hear from a tech guru or even a lawyer who can decipher a EULA, TOS or Privacy agreement they didn't author themselves; yet online, we are steeped in the cumulative concessions we have accepted from them and the affiliates and partners they enable for.
The Biggest Brother?
Google is a data harvester, not a broker. They are the custodians of much of our imprint online across all platforms. check your settings accordingly; within each Google service / app/ platform you use and adjust them to taste. Know, for example, that persistent login to Gmail will append any collocated G-Search activity to your G profile if Web Data | Web History remains on. I read recently that simply joining Plus has a similar but more comprehensive effect by default, by unifying the G tracking across your entire electronic imprint.
Android Permissions
Yes. The most invasive part of Android is its permissions free for all. They are demands, not requests that each app poses. The logic is sometimes one sided and self serving to the developers at our disadvantage. What can we do?
1. Know something about your developer. XDA membership in an app developer helps define their role in a community. Check their website, reviews, accessibility, postings etc.
2. Consider lower permission alternative apps listed in the play store.
3. For each app you review in the Play Store, (have you checked play store settings yet?) assess its longevity in the marketplace to decide if you are willing to be an early adopter.
4. Resist resorting to apps to broker built-in functions your system already has. Learn your OS.
5. Weigh the logic of each permission demanded, based on risk / reward and your intended uses. Example: On my phone Google search leads the field with 59 permissions. App Permisssions by FSecure is in the low end group with zero. How do I know? App Permissions. What can I do? More on that later.
6. Debloat. I have frozen over 60 apps/services/processes using a combination of tools ranging from built in (no root) Application Management to Startup Manager and the App Quarantine app.
7. Don't be lazy about toggling settings as needed. One stock default has the GPS always enabled which may not be necessary for you.
8. Learn about the types of location services in your OS. Check location settings in affected apps and consider toggling location services as needed. Apps will prompt if the needed service is off when you use them.
9. Review your synch settings. Mine are off on the OS. I use a 3rd party mail app and manually back up contacts using Super Backup when needed.
10. Review background data settings. they are visible in Settings / Data usage, by selecting Mobile Data, and scrolling to the list of apps to tap through each and set Restrict background data if appropriate. It saves battery by reducing tower hunting and focuses you on which apps pose the highest demands.
I promised more. Learn about App Ops if you haven't. I have the luxury of running a 4.3 version that supports it so I can use a client app to filter and toggle various permissions on a per app basis. There are other, and perhaps more thorough approaches to this but I'm staying with this one for now.
pc103 said:
Digital Privacy
Well it certainly stresses the last remaining fiber of your privacy. I just watched the latest "60 Minutes Overtime" piece on data brokers framing this as a lifestyle issue. Step back from the small screen & consider that your actions on board the PC have a ripple effect on your smartphone. "NAI Opt out" & "Disconnect software" are useful PC search words.
Where it Went
I rarely hear from a tech guru or even a lawyer who can decipher a EULA, TOS or Privacy agreement they didn't author themselves; yet online, we are steeped in the cumulative concessions we have accepted from them and the affiliates and partners they enable for.
The Biggest Brother?
Google is a data harvester, not a broker. They are the custodians of much of our imprint online across all platforms. check your settings accordingly; within each Google service / app/ platform you use and adjust them to taste. Know, for example, that persistent login to Gmail will append any collocated G-Search activity to your G profile if Web Data | Web History remains on. I read recently that simply joining Plus has a similar but more comprehensive effect by default, by unifying the G tracking across your entire electronic imprint.
Android Permissions
Yes. The most invasive part of Android is its permissions free for all. They are demands, not requests that each app poses. The logic is sometimes one sided and self serving to the developers at our disadvantage. What can we do?
1. Know something about your developer. XDA membership in an app developer helps define their role in a community. Check their website, reviews, accessibility, postings etc.
2. Consider lower permission alternative apps listed in the play store.
3. For each app you review in the Play Store, (have you checked play store settings yet?) assess its longevity in the marketplace to decide if you are willing to be an early adopter.
4. Resist resorting to apps to broker built-in functions your system already has. Learn your OS.
5. Weigh the logic of each permission demanded, based on risk / reward and your intended uses. Example: On my phone Google search leads the field with 59 permissions. App Permisssions by FSecure is in the low end group with zero. How do I know? App Permissions. What can I do? More on that later.
6. Debloat. I have frozen over 60 apps/services/processes using a combination of tools ranging from built in (no root) Application Management to Startup Manager and the App Quarantine app.
7. Don't be lazy about toggling settings as needed. One stock default has the GPS always enabled which may not be necessary for you.
8. Learn about the types of location services in your OS. Check location settings in affected apps and consider toggling location services as needed. Apps will prompt if the needed service is off when you use them.
9. Review your synch settings. Mine are off on the OS. I use a 3rd party mail app and manually back up contacts using Super Backup when needed.
10. Review background data settings. they are visible in Settings / Data usage, by selecting Mobile Data, and scrolling to the list of apps to tap through each and set Restrict background data if appropriate. It saves battery by reducing tower hunting and focuses you on which apps pose the highest demands.
I promised more. Learn about App Ops if you haven't. I have the luxury of running a 4.3 version that supports it so I can use a client app to filter and toggle various permissions on a per app basis. There are other, and perhaps more thorough approaches to this but I'm staying with this one for now.
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Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply!
Indeed some of the things here are common sense but some were fairly new to me, like the close contact you are suggesting with the developer.
I have to ask though, what reviews are you reffering to? the ones in the app market or the ones on here? Also, from what I have seen in the play market, all of the reviews are about functionality but no one actualy checks the veracity of the code.
Like for instance some song recognition&download software that requires internet access permission (makes sense) and SD card access permission (also makes sense), but besides doing what it does (in a splendid manner, leaving tons of happy customers) it also steals your Whatsapp chat logs (just read an article about that breach 10 mins ago)...
How can people catch on that (otherwise the app will linger for 2 years, giving you the impression you're not an early adopter)?
Hrmph, you have given some very sound advice which I obviously intend to follow through and for that I thank you. However it seems to me like the underlying foundation is still trust in the publisher (not to abuse the permissions you had to enable for functionality sake), and the trust should stem from how well the author presents itself to the community. I suppose it is the nature of the beast, it is just that if I were to sneakily attack someone I would make sure to present myself in th best way possible .
thx.
PS. my version is 4.1 but I'll see what I can do about Appops.
P.P.S I just searched for "Tasks" on google market and all I see is an organizer. Did you mean "Task Killer"?
oy-ster said:
Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply!
Indeed some of the things here are common sense but some were fairly new to me, like the close contact you are suggesting with the developer.
I have to ask though, what reviews are you reffering to? the ones in the app market or the ones on here? Also, from what I have seen in the play market, all of the reviews are about functionality but no one actualy checks the veracity of the code.
Both sources really. There's no hard & fast divide as to what aspect reviewers might respond to at either venue. More often, Play Store reviews have alerted me when my device or my Android version gets poor results from an app. Granted code integrity issues are raised more frequently at XDA.
Like for instance some song recognition&download software that requires internet access permission (makes sense) and SD card access permission (also makes sense), but besides doing what it does (in a splendid manner, leaving tons of happy customers) it also steals your Whatsapp chat logs (just read an article about that breach 10 mins ago)...
How can people catch on that (otherwise the app will linger for 2 years, giving you the impression you're not an early adopter)?
Interesting example. I will look for the article. I wonder if the app declared that permission in their Play Store disclosure. If not, it challenged Google's policing system. I read somewhere that SELinux in newer ROMs, set to "Enforcing" brokers applicable policies from each host domain and also restricts apps from exceeding their declared permissions. (See also my note on 4.3+ below)
Hrmph, you have given some very sound advice which I obviously intend to follow through and for that I thank you. However it seems to me like the underlying foundation is still trust in the publisher (not to abuse the permissions you had to enable for functionality sake), and the trust should stem from how well the author presents itself to the community. I suppose it is the nature of the beast, it is just that if I were to sneakily attack someone I would make sure to present myself in th best way possible .
You're welcome! Placing that trust is ultimately a leap of faith, so we ask ourselves:
Does my configuration already offer this function at the OS or existing app level?
Can I justify each declared permission here?
Is there a less invasive equivalent to this app?
Have I gone over the settings thoroughly once installed?
What does my installed anti-virus say about this?
Do I need this to auto launch or only on demand?
Is it using excessive data or uptime as I monitor?
Am I getting all the Android security I could be with my current rom image?
You get the picture. Common sense, best practices & due diligence can go a long way toward closing the security gap.
PS. my version is 4.1 but I'll see what I can do about Appops.
Google only exposed it (to client apps like App Ops Starter) in 4.3 & 4.4.0, before & after that I believe an Xposed Framework module is the main alternative.
P.P.S I just searched for "Tasks" on google market and all I see is an organizer. Did you mean "Task Killer"?
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The "Tasks & Kill All tiles" I referred to appear on Android Tuner Free's One Click advanced mode home screen. BTW certain apps on my phone are "frozen" when not in use.
I forgot to mention. 4.3 I'm running is on the 4.1.2 bootloader, completely avoiding lopsided knox security. I hope I didn't appear to recommend the OTA update. That's a personal choice.
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Both sources really. There's no hard & fast divide as to what aspect reviewers might respond to at either venue. More often, Play Store reviews have alerted me when my device or my Android version gets poor results from an app. Granted code integrity issues are raised more frequently at XDA.
Interesting example. I will look for the article. I wonder if the app declared that permission in their Play Store disclosure. If not, it challenged Google's policing system. I read somewhere that SELinux in newer ROMs, set to "Enforcing" brokers applicable policies from each host domain and also restricts apps from exceeding their declared permissions. (See also my note on 4.3+ below)
You're welcome! Placing that trust is ultimately a leap of faith, so we ask ourselves:
Does my configuration already offer this function at the OS or existing app level?
Can I justify each declared permission here?
Is there a less invasive equivalent to this app?
Have I gone over the settings thoroughly once installed?
What does my installed anti-virus say about this?
Do I need this to auto launch or only on demand?
Is it using excessive data or uptime as I monitor?
Am I getting all the Android security I could be with my current rom image?
You get the picture. Common sense, best practices & due diligence can go a long way toward closing the security gap.
Google only exposed it (to client apps like App Ops Starter) in 4.3 & 4.4.0, before & after that I believe an Xposed Framework module is the main alternative.
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Thanks again!
I just wanted to note that after spending some time here in the forum( http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/ ) looking for some intresting picks, I haven't actually encountered much comments from people that actually went over the code... so I'm a bit bummed out. :silly: :laugh:
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The "Tasks & Kill All tiles" I referred to appear on Android Tuner Free's One Click advanced mode home screen. BTW certain apps on my phone are "frozen" when not in use.
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Oh. Got it.
Anyway, Thank you!!!
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Thanks again!
I just wanted to note that after spending some time here in the forum( http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/ ) looking for some intresting picks, I haven't actually encountered much comments from people that actually went over the code... so I'm a bit bummed out. :silly: :laugh:
...Anyway, Thank you!!!
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You're welcome. To be fair, most times I've seen postings by people who background checked code it was in rom threads, or over root exploits or security apps. In most other cases due diligence is our best defense.
Hello everyone. I have a question about mobile application ads.
I have a local social networking kind of app that has banner ads on every page, and a interstitial (full screen) ad that shows up when you first open the app. Say I have 1000 unique users daily, and every user sees the interstitial ad + at least 3 banner ads.
1) Can an estimation be made on the revenue per day based on that data?
2) Do I get paid for every impression on every single page? Say 1 user opens the app, sees the interstitial ad, then opens 3 pages. Does it mean that I get 1+3 impressions for that user?
3) Same question for clicks. Say 1 user clicks an ad, then closes the pop up (or whatever the ad opens up) and then clicks it again. Does it count as 2 clicks? Or say the same user clicks on an ad, closes it, changes the page and clicks on another ad on a different page. What's the logic behind it?
Would super appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.
PS: I have searched various forums for the answer, got few ideas but since I'm not experienced on any kind of ad related stuff, I felt like a dummy. I definitely need an in-depth help that focuses on my certain situation, not a general answer, if possible of course.
You can work with more than one Ad Network at once. Splitting your ad inventory and working with more than one Ad Network can get your fill rate up to 100%, maximizing your revenues, but you might spend a lot of time managing them.
My recommendation is to try a mediation solution like Fyber, Tappx, Ironsource, Appodeal… Basically these services connect in real time, with hundreds of demand sources in the search of the highest paid ad for you. They do the dirty job and you only focus on coding
Bonus track: Tappx also get users for FREE for your app/game because of their cross-promotion app developer community
All networks have their up and downs which is what makes mediation such a useful tool. Even without mediation, you can absolutely add multiple networks to your app. In the past, SDK integration was a serious pain, taking up lots of valuable time and resources.
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Also you can setup eCPM floors with ad mediation and the ad networks compete with each other to fill your request.
What could be the top 5 best Ad Networks out there? I'm thinking of adding more because others say they do have more than 3 ad networks.
There is really no way to answer what the BEST network is. Your best bet is to go with the ones you know of to start.
Most times, what works well for one developer, doesn't work for the next one.
You can easily experiment with networks when integrating with Enhance.
Add more networks or swap them out for another one with a few clicks of the mouse.
Its that quick.
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There is really no way to answer what the BEST network is. Your best bet is to go with the ones you know of to start.
Most times, what works well for one developer, doesn't work for the next one.
You can easily experiment with networks when integrating with Enhance.
Add more networks or swap them out for another one with a few clicks of the mouse.
Its that quick.
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Thanks! I haven't heard of Enhance but anyway will research more about it. Thanks again
bryanGil0410 said:
Thanks! I haven't heard of Enhance but anyway will research more about it. Thanks again
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You're welcome.
Feel free to reach out if you have any questions!
bryanGil0410 said:
What could be the top 5 best Ad Networks out there? I'm thinking of adding more because others say they do have more than 3 ad networks.
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This will always change depending on the advertiser's campaigns and time of the year. Also, depending on the app's geo, target audience, amount of impressions and DAU, each ad network will provide a different result in different times of the year.
Also, hen you work directly with networks, you spend lots of time adjusting the waterfall manually.
I recommend you to try mediation. With this, you can implement several ad networks at the same time and make them compete, so you will always get the highest paying bid.
Check out Appodeal. And FYI, if you already have a good setup with a particular ad network, you can keep it and still integrate other networks with Appodeal's SDK.