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I'm an old hand at flashing Android phones, but just recently moved from my beloved HD2 to Atrix 4G. My phone came with 2.2 so there was no problem unlocking it etc. However, I'm playing with friend's 4G, she would like to try out ICS. The phone is on 4.5.141 OTA'd since new, rooted, locked bl and Sim unlocked.
Is there a safe way to unlock the BL on this phone? Most of the discussion on this forum deals with previously unlocked 4gs. Since this is not my handset, I thought I'd ask for a second opinion, in case my research led me down a garden path...
TIA
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So which does she want? Blur or ICS? Per your other post which was done around the same time you screwed up Blur launcher for her and want to know how to fix it. I'm figuring you should leave her phone alone!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1503585
CaelanT said:
I'm figuring you should leave her phone alone!
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+1 hahaha.
A lot of what she wants from blur is already integrated into ICS. what she asked me for was ICS with blur.... There is also her desire to show up the other post doc in the lab who is being a Samsung boot boy - hence me messing with her phone. If she only didn't upgrade it would be easy.
Now that you know wayyyy too much info, can anyone answer the original question?
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My replacement Atrix came from Moto the same way, 4.5.141 and locked down. I've rooted it, but cant find any directions for unlocking it that didn't start with it being unlocked before this update. I've searched the forums without much luck. A point in the right direction would be awesome!
Kamikaze style?
Well, Nottach did it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22627280&postcount=2
He did it by hard bricking his phone though. So I wouldn't recommend it. But if you try, please, let us know
So here's my story, I am not entirely new to rooting as I have successfully rooted my Motorola Droid, My Droid X2, My Acer Iconia a500 (twice), My aunts Lg something, and my mothers Kindle Fire.
So a few days ago my Droid X2 started acting up, and would go hours on end sometimes without working.
I was very happy to find out that Verizon would replace it with no hassle as it was less than a year old. I got the replacement yesterday and it's working great... that is until I found out it came stock with 2.3.5 right out of the box.
Now I have always trusted XDA forums and have used them for a long time (although I finally just registered today to ask this)
The only root method I can find is to downgrade to 2.3.4 and then root, then install voodoo root protector, then upgrade.
Now I saw a few things about possibilities of bricking your phone when trying to read those tutorials (I have never had to downgrade before) and I was a bit concerned.
I was mainly wondering, I don't care about loosing data on the phone. I have a backup sd card I can use if I need to format that, and like I said, the phone is new and actually doesnt have a single app I have installed on it yet.
Is there any easy way to go back down to 2.3.4 for my situation? I just got the free phone and don't want to brick it a day later you know?
From what I gather, you can SBF back down to 2.3.4 with no problem. There may be a certain way you have to do it though. I have never been on stock 2.3.5 so I cant tell you from experience. But Everyone says it's possible.
That's my question in a nutshell
Yeah, I read a tutorial about how to do it using RSDlite, which I downloaded to my comp.
Now what I'm cautious about is white file to use. One of the tutorials had one, now while I know a tiny bit about rooting I know NOTHING about flashing it back, I wasn't sure if there was a way that this could screw up my phone, as it seems everything tested is with a phone that had already been rooted, or if there is anything phone specific in that file, or even if it actually is an OTA original (I'd rather not mess around with anything customized right now)
Whatever is the easiest method for getting be back down, I know how to take it from there as I've done it before.
Thanks for the response though!
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Yeah, I read a tutorial about how to do it using RSDlite, which I downloaded to my comp.
Now what I'm cautious about is white file to use. One of the tutorials had one, now while I know a tiny bit about rooting I know NOTHING about flashing it back, I wasn't sure if there was a way that this could screw up my phone, as it seems everything tested is with a phone that had already been rooted, or if there is anything phone specific in that file, or even if it actually is an OTA original (I'd rather not mess around with anything customized right now)
Whatever is the easiest method for getting be back down, I know how to take it from there as I've done it before.
Thanks for the response though!
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So you have never used an SBF file? If you would have used it on your broken Droid X2 when it wasnt acting right, it might have fixed your phone. An SBF file simply wipes everything of your phone (excluding your SD card) and flashes brand new software on it. The SBF files are provided by Motorola so its not like you are using something made by a dev and can break your phone easily. You should be able to use RSD lite to flash the 2.3.4 SBF file and you should be fine. But then again, I have never SBF'd from 2.3.5 to 2.3.4 personally so I would feel bad saying go ahead with no worries and something bad happen. So wait for someone else to respond first.
Thanks!
Thanks for that info!
Also, I doubt that would have fixed my old phone, it seems pretty much like a hardware issue. The screen will display static for hours on end (think like an old tv if you didnt have cable plugged in) I think it's a loose connection somewhere or something. I didn't bother to really troubleshoot it myself though because I was like "lets see if Verizon will give me a new one" and they did, and because they didnt have any "replacements" i got a brand new one, with a brand new battery, so I wasn't going to argue the fact
Anyway, if the file is from Motorola where can I get it? I saw on a verizon forum that they were not allowed to post it there (or is it "from motorola" in the sense it was leaked?)
Thanks for all your help so far, you've been great!
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Thanks for that info!
Also, I doubt that would have fixed my old phone, it seems pretty much like a hardware issue. The screen will display static for hours on end (think like an old tv if you didnt have cable plugged in) I think it's a loose connection somewhere or something. I didn't bother to really troubleshoot it myself though because I was like "lets see if Verizon will give me a new one" and they did, and because they didnt have any "replacements" i got a brand new one, with a brand new battery, so I wasn't going to argue the fact
Anyway, if the file is from Motorola where can I get it? I saw on a verizon forum that they were not allowed to post it there (or is it "from motorola" in the sense it was leaked?)
Thanks for all your help so far, you've been great!
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Yeah, it does sounds like it was a hardware problem. Actually, I never thought about if motorola had a list of sbf files somewhere or if they were just leaked or what. I always downloaded them from threads like these. I just know they are made by motorola. You got me curious now. hmmm...
Duh
forget about my question as to where to get them, just saw the sticky at the front of this forum.
Although, it would be interesting to know if they were officially given out by motorola or leaked
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forget about my question as to where to get them, just saw the sticky at the front of this forum.
Although, it would be interesting to know if they were officially given out by motorola or leaked
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What's An SBF File?
• SBF Is A File Leaked By Motorola That Is The System Image Flashed By RSDLite.
Taken from the Motorola Droid X2 FAQ page here
Excolo said:
So here's my story, I am not entirely new to rooting as I have successfully rooted my Motorola Droid, My Droid X2, My Acer Iconia a500 (twice), My aunts Lg something, and my mothers Kindle Fire.
So a few days ago my Droid X2 started acting up, and would go hours on end sometimes without working.
I was very happy to find out that Verizon would replace it with no hassle as it was less than a year old. I got the replacement yesterday and it's working great... that is until I found out it came stock with 2.3.5 right out of the box.
Now I have always trusted XDA forums and have used them for a long time (although I finally just registered today to ask this)
The only root method I can find is to downgrade to 2.3.4 and then root, then install voodoo root protector, then upgrade.
Now I saw a few things about possibilities of bricking your phone when trying to read those tutorials (I have never had to downgrade before) and I was a bit concerned.
I was mainly wondering, I don't care about loosing data on the phone. I have a backup sd card I can use if I need to format that, and like I said, the phone is new and actually doesnt have a single app I have installed on it yet.
Is there any easy way to go back down to 2.3.4 for my situation? I just got the free phone and don't want to brick it a day later you know?
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bro, you wont have any problems downgrading/sbfing back to 2.3.4, i did it without any problems
i used sbf_flash through linux though idk about RSDLite
Here is a conversation I had over at Motorola Live Chat. Looks like If you rooted your phone your not going to get the ICS update over the air
Denz: Hi, my name is Denz. How may I help you?
ME: Oh hi
ME: I want to know what the problem is with the ICS OTA for RAZR
ME: Why havn't I recieved it?
Denz: We apologize for the inconvenience. Please allow me to assist you with that.
Denz: May I know your location?
ME: Phoenix
Denz: Please provide the serial number: Go to Settings, About Phone, Status, get the IMEI.
ME: serial number of my phone?
Denz: Yes.
ME: ***********
Denz: I will need to check some performance related information from your device will that be okay?
ME: what are you checking?
ME: Data speeds?
Denz: I will need to check the eligibility of your phone for ICS
ME: oh ok
Denz: Thanks. One moment.
Denz: Has the software been modified?
ME: Software?
Denz: The operating system. Have you "rooted" or downloaded a 3rd party OS/software/
ME: Im not very techie what do you mean?
ME: Oh I ley my brother root my phone
ME: So I can't get the OYA?
Denz: I see.
Denz: Hold on.
ME: OTA*
Denz: You still have the option the option of sending your device in and paying for a repair evaluation.The flat rate repair fee for rooted devices is currently the same as the Out Of Warranty fee That's $159 plus tax.
ME: Repair what?
ME: My phone works
Denz: Yes, the only way we could get it back to the original version so you can get the ICS update is to send the phone in.
ME: Lol how am i supposed to get phone calls from important ppl?
ME: you guys are funny
ME: Ill ask my bro what i need to do
ME: Thx for the help anyway
Denz: I understand where you're coming from. Prior to the update and since we released the phone, we had
Denz: advised phone users not to root the phone because they may not get future updates.
Denz: I'm sorry but you have the option to send it in.
ME: lol wish i got that advise. ive been getiing system updates
Denz: I mean specifically for ICS update.
ME: Thats fine no problem im sure my brother has a solutuion
Denz: Okay then. Is there anything else you need assistance with?
ME: No you have a nice day sir/ma'am
Denz: If you need any more information get in touch. Thanks from Motorola, bye!
Ignore this !!!!! I received the download and I am still rooted. Well don't ignore the fact that the Moto employee tried to sham me out of 159 bucks also ignore my bad grammer plox!
So if your phone is rooted you may or may not get the OTA ans WILL have to sideload.
It doesn't really matter if you've already side loaded now does it. Don't worry with silly moto. Just do with your phone what you wish and forget their silly nonsense. And I'm with the countless others that have stated in other threads. I believe they have some kind of tracking software that they aren't telling us about. I'm not saying its the same as carrier IQ but I'm sure its something similar.
That's crap I had my phone rooted prior to .181 and I got the ics OTA. Granted I lost root after .181 and I did a factory reset before getting .181. So that shouldn't be the problem.
My wife has a maxx and has never rooted or anything ans she still hasn't gotten ICS
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It is ofc bull****.
Well, from what I've been reading... If ur phone is rooted, you cant even side load ICS. So it would make sense that they wouldnt push the ota to a rooted device. I'm sure they have a way of knowing if ur rooted or not..
That being said... Theres always the option to flash back to stock, and wait for the ota, or side load it. I personally chose flashing stock, then side loading. I like fresh installs, especially with an upgrade this size. Less variables = lees chance for errors... but thats just me
Lol well know they have my serial number and the fact that im rooted so ill have to sideload later tonight when i have time. I also may wait a few days just to see how accurate this employees facts are.
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Well, from what I've been reading... If ur phone is rooted, you cant even side load ICS. So it would make sense that they wouldnt push the ota to a rooted device. I'm sure they have a way of knowing if ur rooted or not..
That being said... Theres always the option to flash back to stock, and wait for the ota, or side load it. I personally chose flashing stock, then side loading. I like fresh installs, especially with an upgrade this size. Less variables = lees chance for errors... but thats just me
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that is not true...i used razr utility to reverty back to stock .181 and had re-rooted it....then side loaded the official OTA .211 with razr utility 1.7 .....not a problem since !!!
just one thing i havent figured out is, how do i go back to stock .181 so i can recieve the OTA, like i said, i have had not one issue with sideloading it myself but i would still like to see the actual OTA...it would satisfy me lol
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I too was wondering. My folks got the OTA yesterday, on non-rooted MAXX's. My MAXX, rooted, has nothing.
Am I out of luck, and will I have to side-load the ICS?
I guess the question is anyone with root not in soak recieve OTA yet?
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Somebody try this again
But lie when they asknif ur rooted
Tell them its a hundred percent stock
See what they say then
I bet they have no way to tell
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lucidvtec said:
Somebody try this again
But lie when they asknif ur rooted
Tell them its a hundred percent stock
See what they say then
I bet they have no way to tell
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They didn't even ask....
George: Hi, my name is George. How may I help you?
Tim Timmons: I want to know what the problem is with the ICS OTA for RAZR
Tim Timmons: I still haven't gotten it, but my folks with MAXX phones, have.
Tim Timmons: and we live in the same town
Tim Timmons: ??
George: Sorry for that wait
George: We do apologize for the inconvenience. Do not worry, we will do our best to assist you on this.
George: Let me check that for you
Tim Timmons: thanks
George: Now I need the system number of the phone just for a documentation purposes, May I have it please?
George: The system version will be Setting > About phone > System Version
Tim Timmons: XXXXXXXXXXX(IEMEI)
George: Thank you
George: I have tried to check this information in my end and I regret to say that we do not have the exact date about when will be release.however the Update is been going on at the moment. .the update will be pushed out by Motorola in batches to all users over a few week time period.So kindly wait for the notification to be send to your phone.
Tim Timmons: 6.12.181.xt912.verizon.en.us
Tim Timmons: But how is it sent - by locale, or what?
Tim Timmons: and how did you check? You asked for version info, and before I gave it to you, you had a canned response....Can you check again, please?
George: It's gonna be send randomly
George: Yes, I was able to check with my system. sorry, i only needed your system version for documentation purposes.
George: The update will randomly send by our Engineer. And it all users will receive the update batches to batches in over a few week time period.
Just went to Moto's website and did the chat with rep. They explained to me that they are still doing just the test users at this point with Verizon customers and that I will most likely be receiving it over the next couple of weeks.
The "Supervisor" I spoke with later was able to tell me that they can check via a application they have, if I am rooted, my IP, and a few other things.
And......those that are stock, rooted, will not get the OTA.
I don't know whether to wait impatiently, or attempt side-loading ICS.
I just talked to them to and the serial number some how tells them that the device has been rooted.
I even unrooted just to see.
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Well i think im just gonna sideload ot anyway. I just need to find the best barney style instructions. Im rooted, i dont use roms so im stock so i just need the best surefire way to make this happen. Sounds like to me though, moto and Verizon are punishing root users for no reason. I love moto phones but this may be my last one that i buy.
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Pretty sure I saw a few posts in the forum from people who got the update while rooted, just they lost root and rerooted.
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Well, from what I've been reading... If ur phone is rooted, you cant even side load ICS. So it would make sense that they wouldnt push the ota to a rooted device. I'm sure they have a way of knowing if ur rooted or not..
That being said... Theres always the option to flash back to stock, and wait for the ota, or side load it. I personally chose flashing stock, then side loading. I like fresh installs, especially with an upgrade this size. Less variables = lees chance for errors... but thats just me
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I'm rooted and sideloaded ics.
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cheatthepocket said:
Well i think im just gonna sideload ot anyway. I just need to find the best barney style instructions. Im rooted, i dont use roms so im stock so i just need the best surefire way to make this happen. Sounds like to me though, moto and Verizon are punishing root users for no reason. I love moto phones but this may be my last one that i buy.
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On here mickievminnie has an on device way that i used and is very straight forward. It might hang up at one or two points but then you just redo it.
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so it sounds like they can tell if your rooted and even if you unroot with voodoo ota rootkeeper they can still see that your phone is root and maybe they will not be sending out the ota to us rooted folks so maybe it is wise to unroot for a couple of days or a week just to see what happens
Ok, so i'm confused about this s_ off thung..... I'm new to Samsung, and a friend borked his rezound with ics update somehow.... So i'm trying to figure out how to fix it, root it, maker it run smooth as .....something really smooth.... Any help, links would appreciated. At first I thought you had to this s off thing to root... Ive only used Samsung and motorola devices
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You don't have to s-off to root, but you do have to unlock the bootloader. You say he borked it with the update somehow? Was it the OTA update or something different?
We need a little more info to really get going here. Has the phone ever been rooted, unlocked, or anything else ,and what software version is it running now?
He has a phone with a shattered screen, his replacement had GB and tried the ota ics and somehow messed it up is all he said, i'm totally new to HTC devices so I agreed to help him but I didn't know HTC was this different than a motorola or Samsung
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Make sure it's powered down, pull and replace the battery, and then hold VolDown+Power. That should bring you into the bootloader. Then, transcribe all the info from the top (locked/unlocked/relocked, hboot version, radio version, etc).
Its on GB... Stock from factory, as a replacement, ics ota pulls up a red triangle with exclamation point for like half an hour before giving up on that
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shrike1978 said:
Make sure it's powered down, pull and replace the battery, and then hold VolDown+Power. That should bring you into the bootloader. Then, transcribe all the info from the top (locked/unlocked/relocked, hboot version, radio version, etc).
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I'll have to do so either after this class or after work at 8ish....
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Ok, evrything is stock GB, locked bootloader so oh boy.... Where to start IS the all in one tool pretty user friendly. Looks it
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Ok, evrything is stock GB, locked bootloader so oh boy.... Where to start IS the all in one tool pretty user friendly. Looks it
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Follow the link from top to bottom it has everything you need:▼▼▼
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ht...05839-guide-unlocking-rooting-roming-faq.html
Got it running using lots of google and up till 4:30am in the morning...
Now running venum ROM..... Idk what exact ROM but it seems pretty great
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Ever since OTA update came out, it has been impossible to unlock the bootloader without JTAGing the device, but i was wondering if it would be possible to SBF my DNA back to Jellybean or any 1.XXXX update like it came with out of the factory when i bought it stock so I can unlock the bootloader. I have found similar posts about SBF, but none that relate to the DNA. Please help, I really want this phone rooted, but i don't want to JTAG my phone if i don't have to.
Can't downgrade while s on. This has been suggested many times please use the search feature to keep the forms less cluttered
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