[Q] Help - ANDROID SYSTEM, GOOGLE SERVICES AND BATTERY DRAIN RELATIONSHIP - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Anyone with some knowledge about the system and their workings (and what caused the battery drain), PLEASE HELP!
Attachment file is screenshots from GSAM, and the help I need is to understand what is causing it, or what would be just as nice is to learn how to stop it.
Basic info
Still .475 firmware
rooted with Vroot
Stamina off, but happens to an extent with but not as severly with Stamina on
I have Greenify installed, but doubt that this is the cause, since it happened before installation too
Only the chinese SU and Google+ disabled by going into system/apps
Here is the flow of what happened.
I Fully charged to 100%, disconnected and went to bed listening to podcasts (Beyond Pod)
I wake up 5 and 1/2 hrs later to find battery down to 15%
I open GSAM, take screenshots of what looks suspicious
I note that App usage is whopping 92%, where the screen is only accounting for 1.1% usage of screen.
Of the 90%+ of power used by apps, close look tells me is 44.7% is Android System, and 41% is Google services
Looking further into these 2 culprits, is where I get lost.
Is it something about wake lock? CPU usage (background)? WifiStateMachine is high up in the list of both Sysytem and Google services?
%numbers tells me that they are something to do with it, but I have no further understanding, thus powerless to prevent or cure.
As the first screenshot will tell u, when things were smooth, I get 15-16 hrs of Batt life
Any suggestions/actions???
If this is any hint, I have no idea, but once I remember seeing in notification bar a notice saying that some app was preventing Stamina mode from going into sleep mode...

It seems I faied to attach screenshots. Here are the missing ones in attachment

Interesting. I also use vroot and 475 kernel workaround to root my 510. Your phone clearly didn't enter deep sleep all that time.. Held awake for 5+ hours, and WiFi is on for almost 5 hours initiated by google service (strange, in my phone google service doesn't initiate WiFi on) but your first screenshot suggests that WiFi is active for only 33 minutes.. Looks like conflicting information.
My ZU also sucks a lot of power when held awake (not as fast as yours though - almost 100% in 5 hour is full screen-on for me; logging gps track with screen off is around 50% down in 4 hours) and the major power drain is the kernel, android service, and google service. Looks like a lot of background processing, but I can't figure out what's the specific cause(s) is..
For those with more proficiency in these things, is there any recommended place in the internet to start deciphering the power usage logs?

unk_damnation said:
For those with more proficiency in these things, is there any recommended place in the internet to start deciphering the power usage logs?
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Yes, please, anyone?
Just to give update on what has happened since....
Still on .475 HK Firmware.
I have traced back what apps I have installed (in order, un-installed them one by one)
I dont know if the conclusion I reach is correct or not, but results seem to have solved it.
The 2 apps I have rid since are GREENIFY and TITANIUM BACKUP.
My guess is that Greenify was maybe the culprit?
It worked well on my previous device. But Not Z Ultra. Is it because it is SD 800 and it takes different kind of working/updating to fully compliment this SoC, Z ultra being the first out with SD800?
Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

jewelkobayashi said:
Yes, please, anyone?
Just to give update on what has happened since....
Still on .475 HK Firmware.
I have traced back what apps I have installed (in order, un-installed them one by one)
I dont know if the conclusion I reach is correct or not, but results seem to have solved it.
The 2 apps I have rid since are GREENIFY and TITANIUM BACKUP.
My guess is that Greenify was maybe the culprit?
It worked well on my previous device. But Not Z Ultra. Is it because it is SD 800 and it takes different kind of working/updating to fully compliment this SoC, Z ultra being the first out with SD800?
Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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I also use greenify. Entered deep sleep with no problem. Stamina mode turned on, too.

unk_damnation said:
I also use greenify. Entered deep sleep with no problem. Stamina mode turned on, too.
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Does Greenify feel like it is working for you? Can you feel battery life being longer? Depending on your opinion, I might give it a try again...

jewelkobayashi said:
Does Greenify feel like it is working for you? Can you feel battery life being longer? Depending on your opinion, I might give it a try again...
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Yes, the hibernated apps are not giving notification anymore and gsam battery didn't report any wakelocks in sleep from them. But I can't really say about battery life, though, since in my case, sony's stamina mode is the main factor for battery saving. I treat greenify as a tool to minimizing data footprint.

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[Q] Battery Draining No Matter What I Shut Off... Why?

Hello,
I wanted to get your guys opinion as I believe my phone may have turned defective and I really don't want to go down the Warranty Route as I'll loose the phone for weeks. And willing to try anything suggested.
So here's the problem:
Battery Draining at very high rates. On stock battery, I am draining about 12% an hour, after 6 or so hours my 15% battery capacity left warning turns on. I figured it was the battery, so bought a double capacity 4200mAh Hyperion Battery. Now my battery drain is at 6% an hour (which is equivalent to the factory battery considering the double capacity).
I am currently on XXELKC 4.1.2 Stock ROM. When I first noticed the problem, I was on 4.1.1. Figured I would ODIN, Wipe all cache's, and start clean. This has made no affect on battery life.
Here's what I've tried:
- 4.1.1, 4.1.2 Stock ROMs from Wipe - High Drain
- Airplane Mode with Location Services Disabled - High Drain, but 4.5% an Hour instead of 6% an Hour.
- Disabled all Samsung Apps - seemed to have little impact
- Disabling Google Now has made zero impact on battery life.
- 4.1.1 BBS revealed nothing - may need to try again on 4.1.2
Any ideas? Or is this sounding like the phone? Is it possible after a wipe the phone, when I re-enter my Google Credentials it is restoring some data which is defunct and causing high drain?
Note: Screen shots are with the double capacity battery taken right after a clean Odin upgrade to 4.1.2. Only ran Android Activation and thats it.
It looks like your phone isnt going to sleep properly. Try a custom rom/kernel.
Have you done a full whipe ?? If not, do so, and don't forget to make a back up first. It worked for me !
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I had similar issues, I factory reset worked, and I also download rescan media root app to disable the media scanner which was my main battery killer.
WHen you do the factory reset make sure your phone is connected to the internet, so it will prompt google to store the apps you have and remote install when you sign back into the phone.
I have performed a full wipe but that had minor impact on battery life but I wounder if the Google Restore possibly restored an invalid setting. I will try this again without entering my credentials and see if there is a link with a restored setting. I will have to give the rescan media app a try as well.
5kops said:
It looks like your phone isnt going to sleep properly. Try a custom rom/kernel.
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Any specific kernel in mind. From what I've been reading no kernel seemed to stand up to magically solve battery issues without voltage drop or cutting services like Google now from the rom.
use better battery stats app to determine what is causing those wake locks.
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beaver2233 said:
use better battery stats app to determine what is causing those wake locks.
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I have attached a run with BBS for 1 hour. Nothing is really standing out. The phone was in deep sleep for all but 2 minutes. I did have Google Now and Location Services Disabled as that was eating away an impressive 10 minutes / hour from deep sleep. But my battery life only increased from 6% an hour to 4.5% an hour. An improvement but weak IMO considering the larger battery.
Results from BBS is attached.
I once had that kinda issue too
What I did was Factory Reset and that did the trick for me
How about trying the app CPU sleeper?
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I've had this issue before on the i9100 Galaxy S II, where it didn't seem to matter what I did, it chewed battery just as soon as I put my Google account back onto the handset. I believed it was caused by the Samsung calendar bug. So absolutely; try it without putting your Google account onto the device.
Also, your WiFi signal looks low, although this has less of a difference compared to having low mobile coverage...
DaRacerz said:
I have attached a run with BBS for 1 hour. Nothing is really standing out. The phone was in deep sleep for all but 2 minutes. I did have Google Now and Location Services Disabled as that was eating away an impressive 10 minutes / hour from deep sleep. But my battery life only increased from 6% an hour to 4.5% an hour. An improvement but weak IMO considering the larger battery.
Results from BBS is attached.
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your first post has a huge amount of wakeocks that arent going to be reflected with an hours run on BBS. If i were you id charge it to 100%, unplug just before going to bed and then show us the BBS log in the morning so people can see whats happening over an 7-8 hour peroid
DaRacerz said:
Hello,
I wanted to get your guys opinion as I believe my phone may have turned defective and I really don't want to go down the Warranty Route as I'll loose the phone for weeks. And willing to try anything suggested.
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Have you tried flashing a custom ROM?
DaRacerz said:
I have attached a run with BBS for 1 hour. Nothing is really standing out. The phone was in deep sleep for all but 2 minutes. I did have Google Now and Location Services Disabled as that was eating away an impressive 10 minutes / hour from deep sleep. But my battery life only increased from 6% an hour to 4.5% an hour. An improvement but weak IMO considering the larger battery.
Results from BBS is attached.
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It looks like the same problem I was having. Your WIFI is always on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35813539
Also leaving your Bluetooth On all the time is going to drain the battery pretty quickly.
pinguy1982 said:
It looks like the same problem I was having. Your WIFI is always on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35813539
Also leaving your Bluetooth On all the time is going to drain the battery pretty quickly.
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its not wifi always on, my wifi is always on too and i lose 2% over an 8 hour standby period.
Its more what apps are using the wifi connection and waking the phone up, thats what the op needs to look into
I have to say ive had pretty bad battery lately aswell. If op doesnt mind I might post my bbs log tomorrow sometime
tapp'd on my S3
MRDOCA said:
I have to say ive had pretty bad battery lately aswell. If op doesnt mind I might post my bbs log tomorrow sometime
tapp'd on my S3
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More information can't hurt. Post in and Maybee there is a correlation.
OK. So I went ahead with your suggestions and did the following
Factory Wipe again from Settings Menu
Went back to factory Samsung battery for consistency in reports to other users
Took out both my sim and sdcard to eliminate those possibilities
Put into airplane mode
Disabled a bunch of apps (ss on next post)
Still bismal results but better than before. 7 percent an hour drain. Attached all the files. Ideas? Google says phone is awake but bbs doesn't seem to shed any clues for me...
And here are the disabled and installed apps
your phone isnt going to sleep at all....something is keeping it awake..try a stock rom ( any will do) with full wipe. Dont restore anything with titanium backup. Disable auto sync on everything. Set wifi sleep policy to always. See if the problem persists.
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your phone isnt going to sleep at all....something is keeping it awake..try a stock rom ( any will do) with full wipe. Dont restore anything with titanium backup. Disable auto sync on everything. Set wifi sleep policy to always. See if the problem persists.
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That last run posted was stock 4.1.2 XXELKC firmware and Factory Wipe from Settings Menu. I also performed Wipe and Cache Wipe in the Bootloader (Power Up + Center + Power). All I did was install bbs and never put in Google or Samsung credentials and disabled some stock apps from running.
If your not referring to factory Wipe, can you please explain further? Thanks.

Standby drain

When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the LG G6's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I have been on and off mine all day without heavy use due to being at work, and by the time night came without me charging I was around 79%. This is from 5AM to 11PM. But I must admit... I went into the sttings and set EVERYTHING as inactive that I was able to do so and recommend everyone do it. The apps will never turn on or activate unless you manually open one in which case it will then stay active. It's great for apps that do crap in the background which you never use anyway. Oh, and I use Greenify as well, and always keep my tasks clear. So yeah... I'm used to saving battery by habit so my experience is different from most.
My standby time has been brutal... Would not be using my phone for around 1 hr and then id see my battery drop from a 36 to 30.... I closed all apps and even used the smart cleaner to get rid of some.. I dont know whats the problem to be honest. If they can fix the standby drain i could honestly reach for 5 to even 6 hours of screen on time
My standby has been really good, I can leave it off charge overnight and can only go down 2% or so, but once I start using it the % drops heavily after 5 minutes or so. I've got to go through the settings to turn off notifications because I've noticed apps like candy crush giving me notifications
joyj112 said:
My standby time has been brutal... Would not be using my phone for around 1 hr and then id see my battery drop from a 36 to 30.... I closed all apps and even used the smart cleaner to get rid of some.. I dont know whats the problem to be honest. If they can fix the standby drain i could honestly reach for 5 to even 6 hours of screen on time
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I agree with jaeyo, my standby time is amazing. Off the charger overnight for 8 hours i only lose 2%. I do have AOD scheduled to turn off from 11p to 5a.
chinchillables said:
I have been on and off mine all day without heavy use due to being at work, and by the time night came without me charging I was around 79%. This is from 5AM to 11PM. But I must admit... I went into the sttings and set EVERYTHING as inactive that I was able to do so and recommend everyone do it. The apps will never turn on or activate unless you manually open one in which case it will then stay active. It's great for apps that do crap in the background which you never use anyway. Oh, and I use Greenify as well, and always keep my tasks clear. So yeah... I'm used to saving battery by habit so my experience is different from most.
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Did you hook your phone up to a computer and use the ADB commands to enable Greenify's aggressive doze? That really helped me, Nougat's built-in doze is still crap compared to Greenify. Also, setting WiFi to inactive while display is off, as well as enabling data saver in data management to restrict mobile background data for all apps helps greatly with wakelocks. Also everyone should consider disabling certain notifications from apps like Maps and Assistant which can create a lot of wakelocks.
I wrote a few tips to help with battery life on Nougat in the G5 section, but it should apply here as well:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g5/how-to/nougat-wreaking-havoc-battery-solutions-t3570944
Standby time wears on you depending on what apps you got running
?????
I found the culprit. Apparently one of my skin apps was causing wakelocks keeping the phone awake the whole time. Deleted it and installed greenify, will see how things goes
PHYCLOPSH said:
Did you hook your phone up to a computer and use the ADB commands to enable Greenify's aggressive doze? That really helped me, Nougat's built-in doze is still crap compared to Greenify. Also, setting WiFi to inactive while display is off, as well as enabling data saver in data management to restrict mobile background data for all apps helps greatly with wakelocks. Also everyone should consider disabling certain notifications from apps like Maps and Assistant which can create a lot of wakelocks.
I wrote a few tips to help with battery life on Nougat in the G5 section, but it should apply here as well:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g5/how-to/nougat-wreaking-havoc-battery-solutions-t3570944
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No I did not. Heck, I didn't even know I COULD do that. That'll be my objective before tonight though, thanks!
I love Greenify's aggressive doze
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Does Greenify help? I get some seriously terrible standby drain going. Is it LG software that's so bad?
chinchillables said:
I have been on and off mine all day without heavy use due to being at work, and by the time night came without me charging I was around 79%. This is from 5AM to 11PM. But I must admit... I went into the sttings and set EVERYTHING as inactive that I was able to do so and recommend everyone do it. The apps will never turn on or activate unless you manually open one in which case it will then stay active. It's great for apps that do crap in the background which you never use anyway. Oh, and I use Greenify as well, and always keep my tasks clear. So yeah... I'm used to saving battery by habit so my experience is different from most.
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What exactly did you set to inactive? Which apps?
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vintagerock said:
I agree with jaeyo, my standby time is amazing. Off the charger overnight for 8 hours i only lose 2%. I do have AOD scheduled to turn off from 11p to 5a.
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Me too
Honestly dont know how to fix this standby drain.. If ibhad root i would easily find the culprit through betterbatterystats but since i dont have that, cant seem to figure out why my standby drain is so high. I would leave my phone on the desk at 30% not using it all and come back 2 hrs later to 16%. Horrible standby time means losing precious screen on time sad sad
joyj112 said:
Honestly dont know how to fix this standby drain.. If ibhad root i would easily find the culprit through betterbatterystats but since i dont have that, cant seem to figure out why my standby drain is so high. I would leave my phone on the desk at 30% not using it all and come back 2 hrs later to 16%. Horrible standby time means losing precious screen on time sad sad
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Use Greenify to force Hibernate Quick Memo+. Seems to have solved my standby drain issues.
mr mystery said:
Use Greenify to force Hibernate Quick Memo+. Seems to have solved my standby drain issues.
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The problem is Quick Memo+ isnt the problen because i dont even have that application. I did a factory reset and it got rid of the app so I dont know what to do
mr mystery said:
Use Greenify to force Hibernate Quick Memo+. Seems to have solved my standby drain issues.
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Do you need root for Greennify? I would like to start using it.
shaun0207 said:
Do you need root for Greennify? I would like to start using it.
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You can use greenify by plugging your phone into your computer and use adb commands
joyj112 said:
You can use greenify by plugging your phone into your computer and use adb commands
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No root needed.
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joyj112 said:
The problem is Quick Memo+ isnt the problen because i dont even have that application. I did a factory reset and it got rid of the app so I dont know what to do
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You must have it. It's baked into the OS. Look in the essentials folder of the LG (iOS) Home it'll be there
joyj112 said:
You can use greenify by plugging your phone into your computer and use adb commands
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Don't really know how to use ADB commands. But I will try to figure it out

[S9+ exynos] >4%/hr Standby drain exclusively on Samsung Galaxy phones

Hi all,
I am one of the many people complaining for the very poor battery life of the Exynos S9+, but my problem is more extended.
In the previous days I read all the topics related to battery drain in the S9+ and S9 sections of the forum, without finding any solution
My problem is very strange: every Samsung Galaxy I owned (S6, S7edge, S8 and now S9+) has a standby drain around 4%/hr. This is very bad, since more or less 60%-70% of my battery during a standard working day is drained without using the device. In 24hrs I can reach 0% battery with a few minutes of SOT.
I tried to disable almost everything (AOD, sync, location, google location history, nearby wifi bt search etc), hard resetted the device and started from scratch, but the standby drain is always the same.
The very strange thing is that if I configure with all the same apps and accounts a device which is not a Samsung galaxy I have maximum 0,5%hr standby drain. I tested it recently with Lg G6 and Xiaomi MiA1 and the drain is not present. Again, same apps and same setup of the phone.
There should be something specific in the configuration of my Galaxy devices that causes drain, but in 3 years I couldn't find it.
Is there anyone who can help me? What am I missing?
Did you disable the 4G usage while on wifi in the developer settings?
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Did you disable the 4G usage while on wifi in the developer settings?
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No, I will try today thank you. But for the most part of my day I am not under wifi, I am under 4g (full bars), so it will have effect only on the few hours I pass at home with the wifi connection
dauzrulez said:
No, I will try today thank you. But for the most part of my day I am not under wifi, I am under 4g (full bars), so it will have effect only on the few hours I pass at home with the wifi connection
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Ah ok, then this will maybe not help too much. Whats the battery usage percentage of your android system? Please add a screenshot of your statistics at the end of a battery cycle.
This is one of the best battery cycles of the last days:
12h 50min since unplugged
16% remaining battery
2:54 SOT
3,2%/hr standby drain
More than half of the SOT done under wifi during the evening, from 8:30am to 18:00 under 4g.
This is a terrible battery life, I cannot get to the end of a working day.. And this was one of the best days. Sometimes the standby drain is more than 4%/hr
dauzrulez said:
This is one of the best battery cycles of the last days:
12h 50min since unplugged
16% remaining battery
2:54 SOT
3,2%/hr standby drain
More than half of the SOT done under wifi during the evening, from 8:30am to 18:00 under 4g.
This is a terrible battery life, I cannot get to the end of a working day.. And this was one of the best days. Sometimes the standby drain is more than 4%/hr
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Nothing obvious jumps out but that does look worse than normal, are you travelling around/ in bright sunlight a lot?
Few things to try -
1) Download betterbatterystats and enable through adb commands
2) what was the screen brightness like on GSAM?
3) factory reset did work for me
Something is wrong.
Do you have any apps running in the background all the time ?
Or dozens of accounts syncing?
Does your phone actually go into sleep or dozens mode ?
Do you have running bixby or google Assistent on ?
Do you use Iris scanner ?
Thanks for the support. I also have yesterday's screenshots of betterbatterystats, here attached.
It seems to sleep a good percentage of time.
No, I'm not traveling, I stayed the whole day in the office.
Accounts : Google, Facebook, WhatsApp, Twitter.
Yes, intelligent face scan is on
Same here i just bought the phone a few days ago. Disabled bloat and still i cant even get close to 24hours max apx 14 if i dont touch it. My Old S8Plus was so much better. Going to try a factory reset in the next few days. I must admit i did restore from a previous backup.
dauzrulez said:
Thanks for the support. I also have yesterday's screenshots of betterbatterystats, here attached.
It seems to sleep a good percentage of time.
No, I'm not traveling, I stayed the whole day in the office.
Accounts : Google, Facebook, WhatsApp, Twitter.
Yes, intelligent face scan is on
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Facebook is a known battery hog, please try to use the official lite app from facebook. Intelligent scan always activates the iris scanner as soon as you turn on your device. Do you use your lockscreen alot while not unlocking your phone? During this time the iris scanner is wasting energy cause it constantly scans for your eyes. I have setup my device to start scanning only when i swipe up on the lockscreen.
Whats with that 1h20min of Google Play services. Did you use the playstore or some other stuff from Google for that long amount of time actively?
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Facebook is a known battery hog, please try to use the official lite app from facebook. Intelligent scan always activates the iris scanner as soon as you turn on your device. Do you use your lockscreen alot while not unlocking your phone? During this time the iris scanner is wasting energy cause it constantly scans for your eyes. I have setup my device to start scanning only when i swipe up on the lockscreen.
Whats with that 1h20min of Google Play services. Did you use the playstore or some other stuff from Google for that long amount of time actively?
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I will try today to remove Facebook and install Lite (the strange thing is that with my LG G6 and MiA1 with the official Facebook app I have zero problems).
Iris scanner and lockscreen are almost never engaged. The phone is sitting on the desk, and I wake it up through fingerprint most of the times.
Now here in Italy it's 11AM, the phone is unplugged since 7:30Am and the standby drain is already 4,5%/h
dauzrulez said:
I will try today to remove Facebook and install Lite (the strange thing is that with my LG G6 and MiA1 with the official Facebook app I have zero problems).
Iris scanner and lockscreen are almost never engaged. The phone is sitting on the desk, and I wake it up through fingerprint most of the times.
Now here in Italy it's 11AM, the phone is unplugged since 7:30Am and the standby drain is already 4,5%/h
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Ok, thanks for the info. Hm but still, is your usage of Google Play Services always this high? Mine isnt even listed with hours and minutes, only with 3% usage in 30h! And im still on 46% battery.
dauzrulez said:
Hi all,
I am one of the many people complaining for the very poor battery life of the Exynos S9+, but my problem is more extended.
In the previous days I read all the topics related to battery drain in the S9+ and S9 sections of the forum, without finding any solution
My problem is very strange: every Samsung Galaxy I owned (S6, S7edge, S8 and now S9+) has a standby drain around 4%/hr. This is very bad, since more or less 60%-70% of my battery during a standard working day is drained without using the device. In 24hrs I can reach 0% battery with a few minutes of SOT.
I tried to disable almost everything (AOD, sync, location, google location history, nearby wifi bt search etc), hard resetted the device and started from scratch, but the standby drain is always the same.
The very strange thing is that if I configure with all the same apps and accounts a device which is not a Samsung galaxy I have maximum 0,5%hr standby drain. I tested it recently with Lg G6 and Xiaomi MiA1 and the drain is not present. Again, same apps and same setup of the phone.
There should be something specific in the configuration of my Galaxy devices that causes drain, but in 3 years I couldn't find it.
Is there anyone who can help me? What am I missing?
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I have an S9+ Exynos since launch, and even when at first it came with some drain issues, those and many more were addressed with latest update (BRE).
From what I can see, you are using 2 SIM's and your signal is not that good, which contributes to the battery drain.
Other question: how are you doing the backup/restore of your things?, because the S9+ is known for being picky with these, and if you don't do it properly, it will impact battery and application behavior.
More info here (1:10):
https://youtu.be/mBAjdcP0ZEM
Is better if you can try a clean installation and remove/disable the things you don't use. I'm able to get +5hrs SOT in a period of 40-48hrs constantly; I recharge my phone every 2 days and the battery drain overnight is around 3%. I'm all stock, no root or ADB tweaks, and the only thing I don't use is AOD because is not useful for me.
Also I know many other people with similar results as mine, so is a matter of configuration or your phone is defective and you would need to change it.
Good luck!
Galaxo60 said:
I have an S9+ Exynos since launch, and even when at first it came with some drain issues, those and many more were addressed with latest update (BRE).
From what I can see, you are using 2 SIM's and your signal is not that good, which contributes to the battery drain.
Other question: how are you doing the backup/restore of your things?, because the S9+ is known for being picky with these, and if you don't do it properly, it will impact battery and application behavior.
More info here (1:10):
https://youtu.be/mBAjdcP0ZEM
Is better if you can try a clean installation and remove/disable the things you don't use. I'm able to get +5hrs SOT in a period of 40-48hrs constantly; I recharge my phone every 2 days and the battery drain overnight is around 3%. I'm all stock, no root or ADB tweaks, and the only thing I don't use is AOD because is not useful for me.
Also I know many other people with similar results as mine, so is a matter of configuration or your phone is defective and you would need to change it.
Good luck!
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Hi,
My main problem is that I have the same exact problem with the S8 and S7edge, but not with the LG G6... so it's something related to my configuration on samsung phones (same account, same apps, same everything). That's the reason why I'm sure that the phone is not defective.
I have the same problem if I use it in Single sim, and 90% of the day I am under full bars of 4G+ coverage.
The configuration started from scratch (did not start from previous backups). I had just setted up my google account and then reinstalled everything from play store. The only backup I recovered is Whatsapp (through the internal backup function of the app on google drive)
Thanks to everyone for the support!
Facebook Lite: no results. Still at 3,5% standby drain per hour.
Please help :crying:
dauzrulez said:
Facebook Lite: no results. Still at 3,5% standby drain per hour.
Please help :crying:
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Try to disable background activity for "Android System".
For some people, this helped a lot.
Galaxo60 said:
Try to disable background activity for "Android System".
For some people, this helped a lot.
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Which are the implications of this choice? What will I loose?
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Which are the implications of this choice? What will I loose?
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Has no implications, it seems that for no reason that option drains a lot of battery for some, so maybe you want to give a try.
Everything works perfectly with it disabled, I run this options since I got my S9+ and is day and night difference.
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Has no implications, it seems that for no reason that option drains a lot of battery for some, so maybe you want to give a try.
Everything works perfectly with it disabled, I run this options since I got my S9+ and is day and night difference.
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How can disable Android system
Galaxo60 said:
Has no implications, it seems that for no reason that option drains a lot of battery for some, so maybe you want to give a try.
Everything works perfectly with it disabled, I run this options since I got my S9+ and is day and night difference.
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Does this option stick on your phone? Its activated on mine again after each restart.

Battery Life on Exynos S9+ (Unusual Android OS consumption)

I'm getting an appalling battery life on my S9+
The device is a European version with the Exynos CPU, non-rooted (and i don't wish to do so as i do like using the Samsung security features that the device offers)
I've attached a screen grab which was taken right after waking up in the morning. During the night (around 7 hours of sleep) i've lost 14 percent from when i put it away
Any suggestions? I'm really in a loss for what to do other than rooting and modding
PS: Suggestions of the sort like: Turn off AOD or Turn off Sync or Turn off Mobile Data aren't really helpful. I know that these drain battery but the device has these features for a reason and the battery was mostly fine when i purchased it with them on.
ShaMana999 said:
I'm getting an appalling battery life on my S9+
The device is a European version with the Exynos CPU, non-rooted (and i don't wish to do so as i do like using the Samsung security features that the device offers)
I've attached a screen grab which was taken right after waking up in the morning. During the night (around 7 hours of sleep) i've lost 14 percent from when i put it away
Any suggestions? I'm really in a loss for what to do other than rooting and modding
PS: Suggestions of the sort like: Turn off AOD or Turn off Sync or Turn off Mobile Data aren't really helpful. I know that these drain battery but the device has these features for a reason and the battery was mostly fine when i purchased it with them on.
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I know you didn't want to hear it but AOD will be responsible for most of the drain, I lose < 1% per hour overnight with it off and about 2% with it on. Totally agree about the functionality but I just set my AOD on a timer so it isn't on overnight.
The android system drain isn't unreasonably high given the phone has spent a fair amount of time idle, but you could try is going apps > show system apps > android system > turn off background usage (doesn't break anything that im aware of but will turn back on when the phone is rebooted)
Other things to try is wipe the system cache and turn off wireless device scanning from the location menu
Seems I'll have to test it out. Never before noticed a huge drain from using AOD on my old s7 edge and it's a lovely lovely feature. The Android OS seemed a bit high to me but unsure to why
S9+exynos also here. No issues with batterylife for me
I'm having the same problem. Around 16% lost at night. Maybe the last firmware update is to blame.
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I did a clear/delete cache after the update
Ausboy 2011 said:
S9+exynos also here. No issues with batterylife for me
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That's because you've got power saver on you naughty chap
ShaMana999 said:
I'm getting an appalling battery life on my S9+
The device is a European version with the Exynos CPU, non-rooted (and i don't wish to do so as i do like using the Samsung security features that the device offers)
I've attached a screen grab which was taken right after waking up in the morning. During the night (around 7 hours of sleep) i've lost 14 percent from when i put it away
Any suggestions? I'm really in a loss for what to do other than rooting and modding
PS: Suggestions of the sort like: Turn off AOD or Turn off Sync or Turn off Mobile Data aren't really helpful. I know that these drain battery but the device has these features for a reason and the battery was mostly fine when i purchased it with them on.
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As someone pointed out, just disable background activity for Android System and that should do the trick.
I have been running with this option since launch with zero collateral effects; just remember to do this each time you reboot the phone.
Galaxo60 said:
As someone pointed out, just disable background activity for Android System and that should do the trick.
I have been running with this option since launch with zero collateral effects; just remember to do this each time you reboot the phone.
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How do you do that?
AdelinVerestiuc said:
How do you do that?
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You go to Apps and after which Show System Apps - Android System - Battery
You'll see the option there. I tried it for me it did practically nothing. Battery drain for Android System combined with Android OS takes more than 25% according to the battery stats. With a messily 3 hours of screen time including in that an hour of gaming with a 2D freemium game.

Standby drain

When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the OnePlus 8 Pro's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Most my phone's besides my Huawei Nexus 6P have all lost 0-1% overnight.
Even with tweaking I can only manage at best 1-2% which I know compared to other users is excellent but it's definitely worse than my previous phones.
Without tweaking for stamina and good hibernation the device uses about 2-10% depending on what's installed, which wasn't any difference to previous devices (app wise)
I'm happy with it, I'll keep tweaking and see if I can hit that magic 0%
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Most my phone's besides my Huawei Nexus 6P have all lost 0-1% overnight.
Even with tweaking I can only manage at best 1-2% which I know compared to other users is excellent but it's definitely worse than my previous phones.
Without tweaking for stamina and good hibernation the device uses about 2-10% depending on what's installed, which wasn't any difference to previous devices (app wise)
I'm happy with it, I'll keep tweaking and see if I can hit that magic 0%
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Any tweaking tips? I've turned off 5G and that helped quite a bit.
Morten Becker said:
Any tweaking tips? I've turned off 5G and that helped quite a bit.
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Change 5G to 4G
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Don't allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tends to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so o probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
Good luck.
dladz said:
Change 5G to 4G
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Fine allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tends to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so o probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
Good luck.
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Nice tips
bodomfan said:
Nice tips
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Thank you sir.
dladz said:
Thank you sir.
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Great game earlier vs Leeds, very entertaining, they gave you a good game
bodomfan said:
Great game earlier vs Leeds, very entertaining, they gave you a good game
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Was crapping myself, last trying we need is to start getting beat by them.. we were off form.
dladz said:
Was sh*tting myself, last trying we need is to start getting beat by them.. we were off form.
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Cracking game though, I find android 11 open beta 1 charges really slow on a normal charger that's my only gripe with it, but battery is wow
I have a great screen on % ~13%h.
But standby sucks.
I also have removed/disabled stock apps, location of, only enable it when I use it, same with Bluetooth. But I still have 1-3% standby /h. Over night I loose 2-5 % and the same again right after I wake up and use it..
My standby time was so bad 3-4%h, that I rooted it and change doze with an app.
3% h over an day (12h) makes up 36% battery uses. Just laying in your pocket and doing nothing... That would be ~3h screen time.
Still can not get the standby time to 1% what it actually should be!
JonnyJaap said:
I have a great screen on % ~13%h.
But standby sucks.
I also have removed/disabled stock apps, location of, only enable it when I use it, same with Bluetooth. But I still have 1-3% standby /h. Over night I loose 2-5 % and the same again right after I wake up and use it..
My standby time was so bad 3-4%h, that I rooted it and change doze with an app.
3% h over an day (12h) makes up 36% battery uses. Just laying in your pocket and doing nothing... That would be ~3h screen time.
Still can not get the standby time to 1% what it actually should be!
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I'd look in alarms / wakelocks for the cause of your battery drain.
I have more like 0,7% / hr standby, 1,5-2% over night.
Uninstalling Facebook and Messenger would probably take me to 0,5 / hr and 1,5% overnight. This app is a f**** disaster, but unfortunately it's required in my company (Fb groups).
JonnyJaap said:
I have a great screen on % ~13%h.
But standby sucks.
I also have removed/disabled stock apps, location of, only enable it when I use it, same with Bluetooth. But I still have 1-3% standby /h. Over night I loose 2-5 % and the same again right after I wake up and use it..
My standby time was so bad 3-4%h, that I rooted it and change doze with an app.
3% h over an day (12h) makes up 36% battery uses. Just laying in your pocket and doing nothing... That would be ~3h screen time.
Still can not get the standby time to 1% what it actually should be!
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Wake gestures, like lift to wake.. Keeps the phone from sleeping..
Also don't worry about location, maintaining a location is now efficient than obtaining it for all apps in one hit.
I've never turned location off besides for Google, I pause location history, far too creepy.
I have no facebook, instagram or messenger, the only social apps I have are telegram and snapchat.
I use betterbatterystats but there is just no app that keeps the phone awak all the time. I have no f*** idea why it sucks so hard.
It's super annoying.
Android 11, drain is worse, SOT is worse and I've changed nothing compared to android 10.
Disappointing to say the least.
dladz said:
Android 11, drain is worse, SOT is worse and I've changed nothing compared to android 10.
Disappointing to say the least.
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Agree
bodomfan said:
Agree
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How's yours now?
I've just sent through all my apps and optimized all the ones I don't need running at full chat, also deleted some apps that may have been causing issues.
At the moment it's looking ok
3 hours up
1 hours SOT
92%
That's heading for 10 hours if I'm not mistaken, so may have been one of my apps or poor optimization on the phones part..
I'll keep an eye on it, have Gsam running as BBS simply wouldn't accept I'd granted app_ops permission?
Maybe an android 11 thing.
dladz said:
3 hours up
1 hours SOT
92%
That's heading for 10 hours if I'm not mistaken, so may have been one of my apps or poor optimization on the phones part..
I'll keep an eye on it, have Gsam running as BBS simply wouldn't accept I'd granted app_ops permission?
Maybe an android 11 thing.
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This is ok...
Not bad at all..
Is it on 120hz/ qhd?
cultofluna said:
This is ok...
Not bad at all..
Is it on 120hz/ qhd?
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It's 120hz FHD. I honestly can't see much of a difference between QHD and FHD so taking a battery hit doesn't seem worth it.
I'm currently heading for 12 hours here. Have just been using XDA and watching some videos. No gaming today, WhatsApp and telegram.
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I'm running blu-spark. Never used it before but it's idle performance is brilliant.
Very impressed. Also extremely low clocks 300mhz
Great tips from many members. My phone drains very minimally while standby.

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