Sony external battery packs/chargers - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on Sony's new battery packs/USB chargers? I've got one of their older smaller 2000mah capacity ones (here) but am looking at getting a larger one to keep in my bag to charge up my various USB devices on the go.
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There's a few different capacities available.
7000mah CPF2LS
3500mah CPF1LS
4000mah CPA2LS
Anyone had any experiences with the new charger battery packs? My 2000mah is good but takes ages to recharge for some reason. Also wont fully charge my Z Ultra - I used to use it on my HTC One X. I know there are cheaper alternatives out there but I dont trust a lot of them as I think they falsely claim certain capacities. At least with the Sony ones you'd expect they really do have the advertised capacities.

I have the one in the picture you posted (7000 mAh). That's my review on the Amazon page you linked to (the long one). So far I haven't had to use it just a whole lot--I've never used its entire capacity in one charge cycle before, as I'm pretty conscientious about keeping my things charged --but it seems to be at least close to the advertised capacity. There's a little light on it that blinks between one and three times to roughly indicate the unit's remaining charge, with three times being "good" charge. I did one time use it to add about 30% to the Z Ultra's battery, and it was still blinking three times, if that means anything. If you want, maybe I'll use it exclusively to charge my stuff for a day or two and let you know how long it lasts.

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I have the one in the picture you posted (7000 mAh). That's my review on the Amazon page you linked to (the long one). So far I haven't had to use it just a whole lot--I've never used its entire capacity in one charge cycle before, as I'm pretty conscientious about keeping my things charged --but it seems to be at least close to the advertised capacity. There's a little light on it that blinks between one and three times to roughly indicate the unit's remaining charge, with three times being "good" charge. I did one time use it to add about 30% to the Z Ultra's battery, and it was still blinking three times, if that means anything. If you want, maybe I'll use it exclusively to charge my stuff for a day or two and let you know how long it lasts.
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Thanks for the detailed review on Amazon Any idea what the recharging time is like on this when it is completely flat? I'm guessing if it is 7000mah then it should be able to charge the Xperia Z Ultra at least twice from flat which is pretty good when travelling or just heavily using it. Also good to hear that it outputs 2.1A for faster charging. I'm pretty sure the standard Sony wall charge only outputs 1.5A which means the battery pack should actually charge the phone much quicker. Most other brand phone wall chargers are typically only 1A - it's generally only if you buy a tablet that you get 1.5A-2A wall chargers.
The Sony battery doesn't come with a wall charger does it?

No, I don't recall it coming with an AC adapter. I don't think it outputs 2.1 A unless you're charging two things simultaneously, but it charges fairly quickly. If you're not using it, I'd estimate it would charge the Z Ultra from 0 in about 2.5 hours or so. Maybe a little longer.

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Anyone tried high capacy batteries for our Wizard?

As the title says:
Anyone tried high capacy batteries for our Wizard?
I found one Ebay a 2350mAh battery and would like to know if it really expands the battery life a lot!
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I have the extended battery for my T-Mobile MDA. Works great, gets about 3 days under continuous usage at work. Never had the normal battery, but with the extended it doesn't seem to have any battery issues I read about before purchasing my device. I got mine on ebay too, they're from some cheapo Japanese manufacturer, but working well so far.
what's the mah that comes standard with our varios?
I bought one of those 2400 mAh batteries and it makes the difference of a couple of days. It's funny, tho...the standard battery sits at 100% forever and then when it starts dropping, it appears to drop relatively quickly. The 2400 mAh battery, on the other hand, appears to drop fairly quickly until it hits 50%. Then it sits there forever before dropping below that. But anyway, the stock battery would last me about three days, the large one lasts about 5.
Thanks for the answers!
I checked but it seems that the extended batteries are also a lot thicker.
And you will get a new backcase because otherwise it wont fit...
I do like a good extended battery but I dont want my phone to be any bigger
An alternative might be one of those battery powered "quick chargers"....I saw a link for one on a .nl site somewhere in this section. Anyway, I believe it uses a AA battery and it appeared to have a wizard compatible plug. You could always keep a couple charged NiCad AA batteries in your pocket and if your phone battery runs low, give it a boost with the charger. Then you get some extra battery life without increasing the size of the phone itself.
i have one from lion battery.....love it.
got pictures of how much bigger the battery sticks out on the mda ? thanks in advance
It will stick out a fair bit:
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I find the standard (1250mAh, not the 1000mAh) battery lasts for two full working days plus travel time worth of heavy use. I use it for listening to music for about six hours a day as well as working.
I charge it every two days and find this good. If I only use it as a phone it can go all week with one charge.
I replaced the standard Cellexpert battery with the one from Sino that is also rated at 1250 mAh and it seems to last approximatelly 50% longer than the original one. Maybe it is fresher or the mAh rating is more conservative than that of Cellexpert.
(http://cgi.ebay.com/BATTERY-FOR-O2-...5QQihZ004QQcategoryZ75446QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
O2 uses the 1.25Ah battery as standard. Don't see the point in the 1Ah battery if the 1.25 is the same size...
Too Big
I bought one. but it's too big for my case. It works at least twice as long as the standard. I use it when camping or boating with a big waterproof case, were the size isn't an issue.
My standard battery works OK. as long as I let it discharge about 80% every couple weeks.
my mda dies (drops below 20%) after ~8-9 hrs of use. granted i'm on it a lot. i still dont understand how they could POSSIBLY rate this phone's standby time of 240 hrs.
banta80 said:
my mda dies (drops below 20%) after ~8-9 hrs of use. granted i'm on it a lot. i still dont understand how they could POSSIBLY rate this phone's standby time of 240 hrs.
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cuz they turn the screen to nothing, set every shutoff timer to 1 second, and turn off all radios. try it! max battery life!
I would love more battery, but this thing is a behemoth anyway (for those of us who won't use a holster) and i'm not willing to go any thicker.. bah.. looks like i'll carry a second battery charged in a bag as an emergency go to.
I get about 24hrs of MP3 playback on my Wizard with the 1250mAh battery screen off and volume at 80%. It lasts more than a week on standby with minimal use.
next question. with the oem battery, did u guys charge it for ~ 4 hours on the initial charge, or did u guys charge it over night?
I charged it off the USB port for less than 4 hours and the batterylife is still really good.

Extra Battery

Where do we buy an extra battery for the HTC TyTN? (or Dopod, O2 Hermes...)
It is really frustrating that HTC doesnt seem to market any of these...
TyTN extra batteries are available
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=4633
or here http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138243&asource=HTC_TYTN_VP
wow prices are arounr $50-60 + shipping, pretty steep. I think i will hold out for a while :lol:
TyTN battery available on eBay now
http://cgi.ebay.com/Replacement-Bat...ryZ75446QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I bought the extra battery from eXpansys. Be advised that this is a slightly different battery than the one that came with your TyTN:
Stock battery: HERM161, 1350 mA
Replacement battery: HERM160, 1300 mA
I can't honestly say if I've seen a difference between the two batteries, but you should be aware of the difference!
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A final word to the wise on buying the eXpansys spare:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138243&asource=HTC_TYTN_VP
The text description says it's a 1350 mA battery, but if you zoom in on the picture, you'll see that it's actually a 1300 mA HERM160 battery... and that's what they sent me!
goestoeleven said:
I bought the extra battery from eXpansys. Be advised that this is a slightly different battery than the one that came with your TyTN:
Stock battery: HERM161, 1350 mA
Replacement battery: HERM160, 1300 mA
I can't honestly say if I've seen a difference between the two batteries, but you should be aware of the difference!
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A final word to the wise on buying the eXpansys spare:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138243&asource=HTC_TYTN_VP
The text description says it's a 1350 mA battery, but if you zoom in on the picture, you'll see that it's actually a 1300 mA HERM160 battery... and that's what they sent me!
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goestoeleven,
I ordered mine a few days ago and it will probably be the same battery. Does it work well on the TyTN and how did you get it charged?
Thanks.
I can only charge one battery at a time (the one inside the phone)...
Hence my rant on the thread about Cradles without extra battery slots...
goestoeleven said:
I can only charge one battery at a time (the one inside the phone)...
Hence my rant on the thread about Cradles without extra battery slots...
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I got my battery but it has been more than 24 hours and the red light is still on for charging. How long did it take for you? Thanks.
Initially I just charged it for a few hours. It behaved exactly the same as the original stock battery.
It's my second battery and I still cannot get it to charge -- the red light is on for days whether I try AC power or hooked into the PC via USB.
The battery cannot be bad so it must be my HTC TyTN. Any ideas what I need to look at in the battery comparment?
Thanks.
but if you zoom in on the picture, you'll see that it's actually a 1300 mA HERM160 battery...
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Actually, that picture says HERM161 and 1350mAh...unless I'm going blind
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no charge new battery with red light
I also am having the same problem. I have been thru 3 batteries. Some crappy poor life knock off from ebay. but also 2 expansys batteries. The expansys batteries just give a red light and dont charge. Any ideas what is wrong?
Jason
spiderman09 said:
I also am having the same problem. I have been thru 3 batteries. Some crappy poor life knock off from ebay. but also 2 expansys batteries. The expansys batteries just give a red light and dont charge. Any ideas what is wrong?
Jason
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This red red light no charge business not just with TyTn batteries but several other phones and different battery types. Usually occurs with a problem with feedback from cells in battery to the charging circuit. Most oftgen there is no real fault with either battery or phone. It normally occurs if the battery is allowed to completely discharge. I am not aware of an easy fix, except I have faced the problem myself and with original battery. Also had it with another LG phone. On these occasions I got them to work eventually by several times plugging and unplugging charger lead and also taking battery out of phone for ten minutes then reinserting worked once. All a bit hap hazard but they always worked eventually and once going worked fine after that.
Good luck
Mike

Using T-Bolt batteries in your new Rezound

Yes, the T-Bolt batteries will fit. Standard size batteries will NOT charge in your Rezound. Extended batteries will fit the Rezound extended battery cover, and WILL charge in your Rezound.
VZW is still selling (I think) a standalone battery charger for $5, so if you have a bunch of T-Bolt batteries and want to use them, that is a simple way to keep them charged.
I'm not seeing good battery life at all out of my T-Bolt batteries. Yes, I realize they have a smaller capacity than the Rezound, but I'm only getting about 2 hours of use before the T-Bolt batteries die. Still, they make good backups.
seriously, i don't see how you tolerate doing the whole battery swap bit. granted i used to do that for awhile with my Thunderbolt, but once i upgraded to that 4500mAh battery i swore i'd never do the swap bit again.
right now i'm considering getting that 2750mAh Rezound battery, but $60 is a tad high... i hope something else comes out soon.
I hate swapping out. I'm getting a solid day out of the T-Bolt extended batteries. But, I hate being without extras, so it's nice to throw a couple of batteries in the glovebox, bag, pocket, etc.
Swapping is far better than having a giant ugly phone that doesn't fit in your pocket and still have to have tethered to a charger for hours at a time. 2 extra batteries and a standalone charger and you never have to charge your phone, you never have to worry about how much battery you have, just let it die and swap it out. Extended batteries dont last all day either with heavy use but two standard batteries will and you always have a 3rd battery waiting when you get home if you go nuts and god forbid watch two full length movies.
Kane5581 said:
Swapping is far better than having a giant ugly phone that doesn't fit in your pocket and still have to have tethered to a charger for hours at a time. 2 extra batteries and a standalone charger and you never have to charge your phone, you never have to worry about how much battery you have, just let it die and swap it out. Extended batteries dont last all day either with heavy use but two standard batteries will and you always have a 3rd battery waiting when you get home if you go nuts and god forbid watch two full length movies.
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giant ... ugly ... does this not appeal to you?...
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Do you get the battery warning icon using those batteries? If so, I would recommend NOT using them. Its not a good idea.
Read a bit more here.
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seriously, i don't see how you tolerate doing the whole battery swap bit. granted i used to do that for awhile with my Thunderbolt, but once i upgraded to that 4500mAh battery i swore i'd never do the swap bit again.
right now i'm considering getting that 2750mAh Rezound battery, but $60 is a tad high... i hope something else comes out soon.
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The 2750mAh HTC battery is half off at corporate Verizon stores, and should have a MSRP of $49.99 not $60.
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Do you get the battery warning icon using those batteries? If so, I would recommend NOT using them. Its not a good idea.
Read a bit more here.
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Not with the extended T-bolt batteries. They charge while in the phone, and the battery icon works.

Portable Battery Backup

I reckon Im a heavy user. 2hrs of telephone calls, 2hrs of on screen time in a period of six hours at an average.
Therefore I find it difficult to make the batt last through the day on a single charge. Since the battery is not removable I was thinking of buying a portable battery backup which I can use to charge it on the move. Have the following questions regarding the same. Please help if u can.
1. Is it safe to use a backup portable on the go charger?
2. What are some good brands?
3. Do they have a good life?
4. Any ones you would like to recommend?
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I have an Xperia P. But I guess the answer would be valid to the entire Xperia NXT line.
I would try a Duracell one
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I'm thinking about getting this one (Powerocks Stone3): http://www.powerocks.com/a/2/1/2011/1212/42.html
Plan to use it also on my Nexus 7 when available here...
Do you have any experience with it?
It has 2.0A & 2.1A power output ports, but I'm not sure it will be able to fasty-charge my XPS.
blackie333 said:
I'm thinking about getting this one (Powerocks Stone3): http://www.powerocks.com/a/2/1/2011/1212/42.html
Plan to use it also on my Nexus 7 when available here...
Do you have any experience with it?
It has 2.0A & 2.1A power output ports, but I'm not sure it will be able to fasty-charge my XPS.
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The "official" unit that will be able to fast charge just like your plugged into the wall with the EP851 is the Sony CP-A2LAS. It has a 4000mah capacity so it will be able to give your phone two full charges from zero. It was just released in Japan and will be around the world globaly soon.
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I've used the zagg sparq 2.0 for a while now and carry it everywhere with me. Suggests up to 4 full charges, on average I get 3
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The "official" unit that will be able to fast charge just like your plugged into the wall with the EP851 is the Sony CP-A2LAS. It has a 4000mah capacity so it will be able to give your phone two full charges from zero. It was just released in Japan and will be around the world globaly soon.
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Just received mine! 4000mah, lets see how it works! I will post my impressions after i use it!
brunodmjr said:
Just received mine! 4000mah, lets see how it works! I will post my impressions after i use it!
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I wonder how great the charger is. But for more or less 100$, I wonder if I have other options...
viiv said:
The "official" unit that will be able to fast charge just like your plugged into the wall with the EP851 is the Sony CP-A2LAS. It has a 4000mah capacity so it will be able to give your phone two full charges from zero. It was just released in Japan and will be around the world globaly soon.
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I have exactly this one, it's an excellent portable charger, works great, at least for me ^^
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can you send me the link where did you buy that? badly needed for sony xperia P.. thanks
This one works well, it's the smaller version. I use it with my Arc and S.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-CP-ELS-P...ie=UTF8&qid=1344682032&sr=8-1&keywords=cp-els
it was here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573397
search next time
sony CP-A2LS is very very slow. it's not like ep850/851. it's just like USB in PC - 0,5A...
what bother me is if it is a possibility of cross two cables in one, so it would be 2x 0,5A for Xperia
powerocks has 2,1A but is too big. smaller has only 1A...
i have this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/TeckNet®-Du...46YY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1345377498&sr=8-3 works a treat
The http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/portapow-usb-battery-pack/ just came out last month.
4400mAh
Its good this battery?
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take at least 1500mA output for a quick charging
very good topic
Look at the one have 2A output for faster charging.
I have an anker that i bought for germany and it preduces 3amps max and can charge 2 devices simultaneously it was only £40 on a discount but i still have it after nearly a year and it still works perfectly and is a 10000mah so it can charge the xperia u 4-5 times i can only drain 25% over a whole day with gps,bluetooth,wifi,3g permanently on so i can use google maps
this battery looks intresting...i also have the same battery drain issue...thinking of giving this external battery a try...
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3500mAh Portable Backup Battery Charger Case

http://www.banggood.com/3500mAh-Por...Charger-Case-For-Sony-Xperia-Z2-p-925273.html
Hi, Does anyone have this case? How is it?
h14 said:
http://www.banggood.com/3500mAh-Por...Charger-Case-For-Sony-Xperia-Z2-p-925273.html
Hi, Does anyone have this case? How is it?
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Says it's for the Z2 look at the pics we have flaps and that doesn't.
It's not made for our phone's
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h14 said:
http://www.banggood.com/3500mAh-Por...Charger-Case-For-Sony-Xperia-Z2-p-925273.html
Hi, Does anyone have this case? How is it?
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I havent heard of that but just placed an order for this one http://shop.brando.com/Power-Jacket-For-Sony-Xperia-Z2-4500mAh_p11226c1599d3.html
Its 4500mah and appears thinner. Heard good things about Brando who have been around for a while.
rexboy said:
I havent heard of that but just placed an order for this one http://shop.brando.com/Power-Jacket-For-Sony-Xperia-Z2-4500mAh_p11226c1599d3.html
Its 4500mah and appears thinner. Heard good things about Brando who have been around for a while.
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This thing looks awesome!
Hope you can give us your impression when it arrives
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This thing looks awesome!
Hope you can give us your impression when it arrives
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Yep sure will.
Sent from my Z2
Just an FYI.* I finally got the battery, touch slow for postage. Took about 3 weeks.
Anyway build quality on first impressions seems good, nice finish.*
Doesn’t have a strong click but nevertheless does connect the phone nice and secure.
I got the cover without a front flip section.
I used to have a galaxy so this phone is heavier by comparison but I’m used to the extra weight now however have to admit, this does make it a fair bit heavier.
Button on the case for charging is easy to use.
My drawback is the website clearly says data support is available but when I checked with the seller, they confirmed this isn’t the case and will be amending the website shortly.
If you can get passed the weight issue and increased bulkiness its overall pretty good just without data sync
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@Haldi4803
I have tested the battery, over all I concur that it is built well for the price (I got it for ~$20). However there are a few issues:
- The real battery capacity is approximately 75-80% of the Z2's battery. It charges the Z2 to about 80% total from full to empty so the capacity is more like 2600 mAh.
- The input and output currents are lower than what the Z2 can charge. It can charge at 0.8A and discharge at 1A which is not terrible but does take significantly more time (50% longer) compared to charging the Z2 normally.
I'm happy with the purchase due to the convenience of being able to charge the phone untethered whenever I want to prolong the built-in battery life. Usually I snap the battery in when I need to charge and take it off to charge it separately afterwards.
thx for the answers.
that seems logical you cant charge a 3000mAh battery with another 3000mAh to 100%, you will lose something inbetween.
Lucky i don't really use my phone much, so i get 3-4 days with low usage and the normal battery ^^
I'm extremely happy with my purchase price. I complained because their site clearly says data sync supported but it's not. They offered 30%. I advised still nothappy because site misleading so they gave me full refund and let me keep the product so for free it's fantastic lol.
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Hello, what about charging this case?
On brando.com ist that you must charge case and phone separately.
On some Chinese pages is that you can charge case connected to phone - phone will be charge first and than case.
Got the 4500mAh version now, why? Because it's supposed to charge the device at 1A
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Edit: Did a short review, you can read it here
in short:
It charges the phone from 5% to 93%.
Takes about 3hours 30 minutes
dukynko said:
Hello, what about charging this case?
On brando.com ist that you must charge case and phone separately.
On some Chinese pages is that you can charge case connected to phone - phone will be charge first and than case.
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The case has a button so whilst your phone may always be connected it doesnt mean its using the case power so it never charges both at the same time. When you connect the charge cable to the case it will charge the case if its turned on or charge the phone when the case is turned off

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