As many of you already know, Note 3 is one of a few Verizon smartphones that has a Category 4 LTE modem, capable of delivering 150Mbps download speeds. Verizon's been rolling out new LTE layer on AWS or Band 4, and in many cities like NYC, LA, SF, Chicago, Atlanta, Detroit, Miami, to name a few users have been seeing speeds just under 100Mbps, but only using Category 3 devices like GS4, iPhone 5s, etc which are hardware limited at 100Mbps.
Since this is a Note 3 forum, it would be great to have this thread for reports on Verizon's Band 4 LTE, and especially Speedtest.net results which should be north of 100Mbps!
Similar thread exists in GS4 forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502716
And a much more in depth one over at HoFo: http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ent-and-Verizon-sites-with-Remote-Radio-Units
This article also talked about Verizon's 2x20Mhz AWS LTE: http://gigaom.com/2013/10/14/watch-out-att-verizons-new-lte-network-monster-stirs-in-nyc/
On Galaxy phones it should be easy to access ServiceMode via dial codes, which will allow you to monitor the Band you're connected to, and even force the certain frequency. I don't own Note 3, but afaik Verizon usually tries to block out these codes, although there used to be an app in Play Store that would dial the codes for you (Samsung ServiceMode or Sammy codes)
*#0011# General Debug screen
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#27663368378# Main screen
There are a few other codes, please post your findings!
That's pretty neat. Thanks for the info!
I wonder what this'll mean for Verizon customers currently grandfathered into the unlimited 4G LTE data plans and if there's any plans of discontinuing that service.
I'll have to check this out once I head back to the city.
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keennay said:
That's pretty neat. Thanks for the info!
I wonder what this'll mean for Verizon customers currently grandfathered into the unlimited 4G LTE data plans and if there's any plans of discontinuing that service.
I'll have to check this out once I head back to the city.
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Unlimited users still get to access this LTE channel with capable device like Note 3.
This is what users are seeing on GS4, but remember GS4 is capable of only 100Mbps on the downlink, so that's the limiting factor. Note 3 can push 150Mbps!
I have read conflicting reports, pretty sure its still disabled on our firmware. One guy said he tried in his AWS enabled area and it wasnt recieving it, still same speed as MI9 and others thought they might since they were seeing speeds of like 60 down.
I'm not in one of those areas and lucky to see 30 down on a good day, so I can't tell you definitively either way.
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I have read conflicting reports, pretty sure its still disabled on our firmware. One guy said he tried in his AWS enabled area and it wasnt recieving it, still same speed as MI9 and others thought they might since they were seeing speeds of like 60 down.
I'm not in one of those areas and lucky to see 30 down on a good day, so I can't tell you definitively either way.
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Have you tried the Play Store apps to get into ServiceMode?
There are a few of them, I use this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amoopa.sammysmode&hl=en
There seems to be a similar free one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kabasoft.util.servicemodeshortcut&hl=en
*#0011# General Debug screen
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#197328640# Main screen
Out of those 3 codes only *#0011# General Debug screen worked for me. Hmm are there any other additional steps I have to take to be able to access those other codes?
milan03 said:
Have you tried the Play Store apps to get into ServiceMode?
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No, as I said I dont live in a AWS area.
Here was the post though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47190780&postcount=108
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I've confirmed it twice that it's not in the update, as we have both Tmo and VZ LTE in Band 4 here. VZ speeds stayed the same post update and my TMO Sim will only go to H+ vs my VZ-GS4 which goes up to LTE on the TMO SIM.
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*#0011# General Debug screen
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#197328640# Main screen
Out of those 3 codes only *#0011# General Debug screen worked for me. Hmm are there any other additional steps I have to take to be able to access those other codes?
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Post screenshot of *#0011# and I'll explain how to analyze it.
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Post screenshot of *#0011# and I'll explain how to analyze it.
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Ok, so you're looking at the first line where it says LTE Band. Band 13 is the original LTE layer in 700Mhz spectrum.
PLMN: 311-480 is the country/network code, unique to Verizon Wireless.
Bandwidth is the amount of spectrum they're using. Band 13 is 10Mhz nationwide, capable of 73.6Mbps peak speeds. Their Band 4 is in many markets 20Mhz capable of 150Mbps peak speeds!
RSRP is "reference signal receive power" -44dBm being amazing, and -140dBm you're about to drop connection.
SNR is "signal to noise ratio" the higher the better. 30dB is perfect.
RSRQ is "reference signal receive quality" -3dBm being amazing and -19dBm terrible.
PA state displays the new envelope tracking (ET) feature only Note 3 has, it saves battery and should improve upload, etc....
You really should be watching the first line and try to spot "BAND 4" and the third line showing you the BW (bandwidth). Should be between 10Mhz and 20Mhz depending on the market. Please state your market when you post screenshots, it will really help me figure out which areas are getting this massive capacity!
Hope this helps!
So do you know why I can't access those codes?
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#197328640# Main screen
I really wanna try to enable that band 4 option
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So do you know why I can't access those codes?
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#197328640# Main screen
I really wanna try to enable that band 4 option
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Ever since HTC Thunderbolt which had a similar ServiceMenu, Verizon got paranoid about giving users too much low level control, and started requesting OEMs to block these codes from the final shipping ROMs. T-Mobile variant for instance has all of the ServiceMode pages enabled. So the ServiceMode.apk is still there, but it isn't listening dialer any more. You can try those apps I've posted above, they should get you to the service mode.
There is also *#27663368378# Which is the actual root of the app. Also, certain ROMs enable this. It's really enabling it in the build.prop. ServiceMode is baked into the TW framework, so ROM must be TW based.
milan03 said:
Ever since HTC Thunderbolt which had a similar ServiceMenu, Verizon got paranoid about giving users too much low level control, and started requesting OEMs to block these codes from the final shipping ROMs. T-Mobile variant for instance has all of the ServiceMode pages enabled. So the ServiceMode.apk is still there, but it isn't listening dialer any more. You can try those apps I've posted above, they should get you to the service mode.
There is also *#27663368378# Which is the actual root of the app. Also, certain ROMs enable this. It's really enabling it in the build.prop. ServiceMode is baked into the TW framework, so ROM must be TW based.
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After using *#27663368378# I navigated thru the menu and I got to this screen but after enabling it and rebooting the phone my band was still at 13
None if these codes are doing anything for me on beans rom. Type em in and all it does is dial.
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Can anyone else with the Verizon Developer Edition of the Note 3 utilize any of these apps? Both say they're unsupported on my device.
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Im trying to do that 2766 long string that ends with the pound nothings happening am I supposed to hit something after that dialer just tries to make a call no menu comes up
** just tried the service mode shortcut app 2nd link doesnt work says not supported when you click it in the app
Well I just tried to buy the app from the 1st link and it says my Note 3 isnt supported and wont let me download it. Howd you get into the menu? The apk for servicemode is showing in Titanium and not frozen dont know why it wont open
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After using *#27663368378# I navigated thru the menu and I got to this screen but after enabling it and rebooting the phone my band was still at 13
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Ah finally! After the reboot, do you have Band 4 ENABLED? Did it stick? Which ROM are you on and what metro area are you in?
Not all areas have Band 4 enabled. NYC, LA, SF, Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, but also Lexington, KY, etc... Try testing it in the busiest parts of your city, since Verizon is deploying there first, to alleviate the congestion.
Hi Milan, nice seeing you here, read a lot of your posts over at HoFo and S4GRU.
YES!!! AWS live in Philadelphia!!! I have kept up with the HoFo thread and haven't heard of any sighting in Philly yet.
What I did was first enabled B4 like above and then went into UE setting, settings, protocol, NAS, network control, band selection, and under LTE preference chose B4 to force it. Interesting enough there is no B13 option in there.
I have screenshots of service mode, was speed test, and b13 speed test. Too bad signal on AWS sucks so I can't really use it. I guess this is because Verizon had the lowest number of towers here. My speed test is quite poor but compared to B13 in Philly, otherwise known as the slowest network in Philly other than Verizon CDMA, pretty much anything is improvement.
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Hi Milan, nice seeing you here, read a lot of your posts over at HoFo and S4GRU.
YES!!! AWS live in Philadelphia!!! I have kept up with the HoFo thread and haven't heard of any sighting in Philly yet.
What I did was first enabled B4 like above and then went into UE setting, settings, protocol, NAS, network control, band selection, and under LTE preference chose B4 to force it. Interesting enough there is no B13 option in there.
I have screenshots of service mode, was speed test, and b13 speed test. Too bad signal on AWS sucks so I can't really use it. I guess this is because Verizon had the lowest number of towers here. My speed test is quite poor but compared to B13 in Philly, otherwise known as the slowest network in Philly other than Verizon CDMA, pretty much anything is improvement.
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Hey this is awesome news!!! Congrats! They seem to be running another 10Mhz FDD LTE in the AWS. EARFCN value of 2100 corresponds to B block AWS license they've acquired from SpectrumCo cable companies! So you should be having another 73.6Mbps channel which should alleviate the congestion!
Have you tried testing in a busy areas of Philly during the Off-Peak hours just to see if the capacity is there? Don't forget to put Network Selection back to "Automatic", otherwise you won't be receiving any calls, just LTE Data
Thank you for posting a short guide on how to properly enable B4 on Note 3!
Again how are you guys even getting into the service mode? Both of those apps and none of the codes seem to work what am I doing wrong here?
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What APN is everyone using? The max speed I have seen on my galaxy s III is around 6mbps....never faster. I am currently using the "pta" apn for LTE devices (my other device is a galaxy note LTE).
Which apn should I be using to achieve the fastest speeds?
I have seen speeds go up to 9mbps on HSPA+ with my old galaxy nexus before, but I have never seen that with this device at the same exact location.
Is something preventing this phone from getting hspa+ speeds?
I would guess we are all using different APN as many many different networks in the world .
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JJEgan said:
I would guess we are all using different APN as many many different networks in the world .
jje
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Oops....my bad. I forgot to state that this is for AT&T in the US
Just measured 14 Mbit per sec with galaxy s 3 in Finland using hspa+ connection. Cannot say about lte though. Quite irrelevant comment though
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Oops....my bad. I forgot to state that this is for AT&T in the US
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What version you are using ... If you are using international model then the speeds you are getting is good and you will not get LTE. If you are using ATT LTE version then you are in the wrong forum, there's a separate forum for US variants.
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What version you are using ... If you are using international model then the speeds you are getting is good and you will not get LTE. If you are using ATT LTE version then you are in the wrong forum, there's a separate forum for US variants.
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I'm using the international version....the speeds still seem pretty slow compared to when I had my galaxy nexus that got 9mbps+ on hspa+....I get no where close to that now....
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I'm using the international version....the speeds still seem pretty slow compared to when I had my galaxy nexus that got 9mbps+ on hspa+....I get no where close to that now....
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I get about 4-6mbps on my international GS3 on AT&T. One positive for me is the speeds seem to be more consistent than my GS2 in the same area.
I get about 5-6mbs in the UK using the stock settings.
Generally in states and Canada you'll see slower 3g speeds on average compared to nam version and gn. The reason some speculate is because nam version and possibly gn as well support hspa rev8 as opposed to international only up to hspa rev6.
In real life that translates on average speed in my city of 3-6 mps with i9300 although sometimes I can reach 12 mps at certain locations and time of day.
My i747m gives me average 8-11 mps in GTA and sometimes I can reach 14 mps.
Using Fido on Rogers network both on ltemobile.apn.
They both show same or very simmilar asu level holding them side by side when testing.
North American model is also quicker to reach max speed and stay there when testing, while international kinda ease itself staring from 1 mps then gradually half way into test reaching maximum.
This also translates into tethering speed limits when hooking one to another or using laptop.
Note all this is about hspa 3g and not about lte since my provider does not have lte yet and my sim card is 3g.
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+3mbps on an EXCELLENT day, otherwise, it'll be around ~2mbps here in SoCal.
I've gotten about 9mb/s on H+ with Vodafone ireland
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Idan73 said:
Generally in states and Canada you'll see slower 3g speeds on average compared to nam version and gn. The reason some speculate is because nam version and possibly gn as well support hspa rev8 as opposed to international only up to hspa rev6.
In real life that translates on average speed in my city of 3-6 mps with i9300 although sometimes I can reach 12 mps at certain locations and time of day.
My i747m gives me average 8-11 mps in GTA and sometimes I can reach 14 mps.
Using Fido on Rogers network both on ltemobile.apn.
They both show same or very simmilar asu level holding them side by side when testing.
North American model is also quicker to reach max speed and stay there when testing, while international kinda ease itself staring from 1 mps then gradually half way into test reaching maximum.
This also translates into tethering speed limits when hooking one to another or using laptop.
Note all this is about hspa 3g and not about lte since my provider does not have lte yet and my sim card is 3g.
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That is interesting.....i wonder if that is really the case....
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Well i just disabled fastdormancy and retested and got...
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Not bad at all....this is the first time i got this speed with this phone.
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That should actually not happen... Fast dormancy is supposed to only kick in after some idle time.
At least that's what it does to my knowledge and what I've been able to piece together abut the functionality.
However I can confirm... on DXLF3 with FD I get 1.8Mbit/s Downstream while actually hitting 8Mbit/s with FastDormancy disabled.
I've confirmed the test several times in exactly the same location, always same result.
Well, seems that JuiceDefender's auto-toggle 2G/3G is finally gonna really pay of if Fast Dormancy is disabled
What modem works best with AT&T? Also see a lot about csc. Does that matter on AT&T?
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Hmm I just found something
very interesting.
Whenever the phone changes antenna or drops to 2G, upon restore of the HSPA+ connction I only get the same meagre 1.8 Mbit/s.
Rebooting the phone or toggling airplane mode will bring it back to 8 Mbit/s until the next time it changes.
From the behaviour it looks as if the phone could not go above the first hspa-stage when it's not a new connection. I'll try different modems tomorrow but I guess that's a software bug.
Additionally, altough I've disabled fd through the app and confirmed it being disabled in the database, the phone keeps going to RRC-State "idle" which is fast dormancy.
Interestingly enough my carrier is not even listed in the list sinc I'm on a custom rom.
Anybody knows a fix to either of both issues?
Especially the first is rather annoying.
I am on Fido in Canada. This is usually the speed I get.
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i just want to ask before on gingerbread phones we can setup the internet by going to this settings *#301279# and *#279301#
now on our gs3 this option is gone... do anybody have an idea how to lock HSPA+ on gs3???
thanks in advance!
What do you mean "lock"? The phone will automatically select the highest possible transfer speed in active usage and may fallback to a slower one during Idle to preserve power.
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What do you mean "lock"? The phone will automatically select the highest possible transfer speed in active usage and may fallback to a slower one during Idle to preserve power.
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Hmmm like before on my sg1 and galaxy w... also on my daughter's ace when i type on the phone dialer *#301279# there is an option to disabke hsupa and leave hsdpa open. And never have i seen the 3g logo on the location where im at before. Now on our sg3 i cant seem to access that switch anymore. So that's why im asking if there is an alternative code or a rom taht would give me that option.
Thanks for the feedback though
Go to the Dialer and Enter in ##DATA# (##3282#)
Select "LTE" , Edit
You need your MSL Code. This can easily be obtained by contacting Sprint here.
Enable Bands26 and Band41. Priority 1.
Does anyone feel a difference? My speeds here are bouncing up and down with and without this on. Sometimes its 11.38MB/s and sometimes its 7.18MB/s
I just found out that Band26 isnt available, what about 41?
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Go to the Dialer and Enter in ##DATA# (##3282#)
Select "LTE" , Edit
You need your MSL Code. This can easily be obtained by contacting Sprint here.
Enable Bands26 and Band41. Priority 1.
Does anyone feel a difference? My speeds here are bouncing up and down with and without this on. Sometimes its 11.38MB/s and sometimes its 7.18MB/s
I just found out that Band26 isnt available, what about 41?
I cant delete this so...
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According to another user, BAND 41 is highly unstable as it seems to be either Sprint kicking them out or the software is buggy, also to access any of the two you have to disable band 25 witch is LTE ON/OFF.
3G seems a little better with all three on, and the jumping is this crappy software, I hate it but I can live with it till we get a better update
Also Band 26 I believe is the old Nextel air wave, they are still waiting for iDEN users to switch over to the new CDMA push to talk and also they are still messing with the FCC on that as far as I know
Band 41 is Clearwire air wave, to find out if your in a clearwire area just go to clearwires website and search the signal maps, unfortunately I am not as of this moment.
My shining moment is when they get Band 25 and 26 working and then I will be a happy camper :laugh:
RevolcFael4 said:
Go to the Dialer and Enter in ##DATA# (##3282#)
Select "LTE" , Edit
You need your MSL Code. This can easily be obtained by contacting Sprint here.
Enable Bands26 and Band41. Priority 1.
Does anyone feel a difference? My speeds here are bouncing up and down with and without this on. Sometimes its 11.38MB/s and sometimes its 7.18MB/s
I just found out that Band26 isnt available, what about 41?
I cant delete this so...
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When you are connected to LTE, you have to verify that you are truly on B41 or B25. To do this you have to use the dialer code ##DEBUG# (##33284#) and click on LTE Engineering to view the LTE band your phone is currently connected to. No way are you only getting speeds of11.38 MB/sec and 7.18 MB/sec on an empty B41 LTE carrier.
Pics of LTE Engineering screen
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Here are my screenshots from my B41 LTE testing.
So how did you get on band 41
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I can't even connect to 4G! Every time I try it connects for about 20sec then disconnects. I believe it has to do with holder hardware for lte in my area and that a ota will need to happen to fix it.
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When you are connected to LTE, you have to verify that you are truly on B41 or B25. To do this you have to use the dialer code ##DEBUG# (##33284#) and click on LTE Engineering to view the LTE band your phone is currently connected to. No way are you only getting speeds of11.38 MB/sec and 7.18 MB/sec on an empty B41 LTE carrier.
Pics of LTE Engineering screen
Here are my screenshots from my B41 LTE testing.
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I followed this guide and my band states 50. Is that right?
cdsbj6508 said:
I followed this guide and my band states 50. Is that right?
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Yes odd, I'm in Portland Oregon, made these changes and my Band shows 50. I can't find any mention of a Band 50 on the interwebs.
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Doing some testing, I reset my data connection by turning airplane mode on/off, it connected to Band 25, my speed was 4.11/1.78 mpbs. I turned Wifi back on..and now it's showing Band 50 again. I repeated the test with the same results.
Perhaps the phone sets LTE Engineering mode to Band 50 while in wifi?
cdsbj6508 said:
I followed this guide and my band states 50. Is that right?
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rpassmore said:
Yes odd, I'm in Portland Oregon, made these changes and my Band shows 50. I can't find any mention of a Band 50 on the interwebs.
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Doing some testing, I reset my data connection by turning airplane mode on/off, it connected to Band 25, my speed was 4.11/1.78 mpbs. I turned Wifi back on..and now it's showing Band 50 again. I repeated the test with the same results.
Perhaps the phone sets LTE Engineering mode to Band 50 while in wifi?
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Did you guys verify if you had the 4GLTE icon displaying when you saw B50? B50 means you are not connected at all to LTE. B50 is what the LTE engineering screen sits at by default when it isn't connected to LTE. Don't ask me why Sprint set it to B50 but you can verify this yourself by checking the ##DEBUG# dialer code at the LTE engineering screen when you are only connected to 3G and you will see B50...*shrug*.
Sorry, didn't see what band I was on at the time, but I took a screenshot cause I was floored by these speeds. I have not done any editing to my bands.
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Sorry, didn't see what band I was on at the time, but I took a screenshot cause I was floored by these speeds. I have not done any editing to my bands.
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That is B25 LTE for sure. The speeds you posted are possible with B25 LTE. You probably don't have a loaded LTE sector which is why you have great speeds. The B25 LTE carrier can support up to 37 Mbps for a 5x5 LTE carrier so this speed is not out of the range.
I have band 41 no band 26..
Chicago NW burbs
ericdabbs said:
That is B25 LTE for sure. The speeds you posted are possible with B25 LTE. You probably don't have a loaded LTE sector which is why you have great speeds. The B25 LTE carrier can support up to 37 Mbps for a 5x5 LTE carrier so this speed is not out of the range.
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It also blew me away because my previous phone was a wimax phone.
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Holy ****! How are you guys getting speeds of ~50MB/s? I'm in LA and cant seem to connect to band 41. I believe that I am covered under Clear's coverage map. Any help guys? I want mad speeds too.
RevolcFael4 said:
Holy ****! How are you guys getting speeds of ~50MB/s? I'm in LA and cant seem to connect to band 41. I believe that I am covered under Clear's coverage map. Any help guys? I want mad speeds too.
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It is going to be extremely hard for you to test B41 LTE like I did unless you have the proper information and the patience. It is not easy to test B41 since our stock firmware doesn't really like connecting to B41 LTE. I got a lot of disconnects and reconnects in my B41 LTE testing. For now unless you are a Premier Sponsor at S4GRU.com, I would just not even bother since Sprint made the current firmware to favor B25 LTE over B41 LTE regardless of Band Priority.
snoopdog said:
I have band 41 no band 26..
Chicago NW burbs
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How were your signal levels? Upload seems a bit wonky.
I've been able to turn on bands 26 & 41 (thank you op) Just wondering if/when we'll see the new spark symbol?
I'm in NE FL and am stuck on band 25, can't get 26 or 41 anywhere...
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I've been able to turn on bands 26 & 41 (thank you op) Just wondering if/when we'll see the new spark symbol?
I'm in NE FL and am stuck on band 25, can't get 26 or 41 anywhere...
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You will see the Spark symbol when we get the Spark OTA firmware update in early 2014. The intro Sprint splash screen will get updated to say Sprint Spark as well. I have played with the HTC One Max and saw what the new Sprint Spark splash intro screen looks like and the new 3G/4G icon.
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You will see the Spark symbol when we get the Spark OTA firmware update in early 2014. The intro Sprint splash screen will get updated to say Sprint Spark as well. I have played with the HTC One Max and saw what the new Sprint Spark splash intro screen looks like and the new 3G/4G icon.
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Here is the logo on a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini
I live in St. Louis and activated all 3 bands. It does become a bit unstable, but I did a speedtest by downtown and landed an unbelievable 47mbs down speed, but crashed during upload test. It was on the 41 band. I verified this through the LTE Engineering menu. But like I said, it seems very unstable.
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I live in St. Louis and activated all 3 bands. It does become a bit unstable, but I did a speedtest by downtown and landed an unbelievable 47mbs down speed, but crashed during upload test. It was on the 41 band. I verified this through the LTE Engineering menu. But like I said, it seems very unstable.
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Ya same. its unstable but much much much better than before..
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Hi everyone,
Finally managed to do what I was trying to accomplish on my VZW Galaxy S3 for almost a year.
I'm not sure if anyone else has already accomplished this or not. If anyone has, then sorry about the duplicate post (even though I haven't found any posts specifically describing how to do it).
It took me some research to see that both t-mobile and vzw run on band 4 block f (1700mhz-f), so I thought they should both be able to tune to the same lte band. Even though I was able to get H+ from a t-mobile prepaid sim to work on the vzw note 3, I was still not completely satisfied, so I kept at it till lte finally worked too.
I do give credit to the thread about "All things service mode" which described how to enable the service mode menu and then how to turn on lte band 4.
This DOES confirm that by turning on lte band 4 under service menu, it does really turn on, no firmware update is required to enable the additional layer of the lte band.
It's almost 4 a.m. so I'll get to the details a little later, but just wanted to post this as soon as I got it working, I know it'll make lots of people happy.
I got 28 mbps down and 6 mbps up on t-mobile where I get about 8m and 2m with vzw lte, respectively.
Look at the screen shots below. I did a little research and was able to get that annoying "non-Verizon sim" warning off too, but credit for that goes to someone else here on xda, I didn't figure that out, I will just relay that here for a one stop shop on how to use a t-mobile or other GSM sims in the vzw version. I will link to that post later when I have more time. Anyway, see below and let me know of your thoughts, I will add more details later.
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Do this at your own risk, if any anything goes wrong, don't blame me for it. Make a nandroid backup before you start. To get 4G lte to work on t-mobile, and to remove the continuous sim warning, you'll have to be rooted. Just to get 4G hspa+ to work, you don't need root, but you'll have the annoying sim reminder/warning in your notification all the time.
Go to settings>more settings>mobile networks>network mode and change to "Global" mode. Also turn off your mobile data at this point.
Turn off your phone and replace your vzw sim w/ a t-mobile sim with prepaid or postpaid 4G service. Turn the phone back on. When it has finished booting up, you should have basic gsm service on t-mobile, you'll get a warning about a non-Verizon sim, don't worry about that right now, it won't hurt anything.
Now if you want t-mobile 4G lte and you have root, follow the thread for All things "ServiceMode" related to turn on lte band 4 through service mode. Restart the phone after enabling lte band 4.
Go to "mobile networks>access point names" under more settings, click the "+" on the bottom to add an apn, call it T-Mobile LTE and type "fast.t-mobile.com" without the quotes under APN. Leave everything else blank (you can add some of the other stuff later if you want to get picture messaging to work). Click the menu button and hit save. Once you're out, make sure you click on the green radial button to select the new APN you just created.
Now exit settings and turn on your mobile data. Give it a minute. You should get the 4G lte symbol after a little bit. You may have to restart the phone once for it to work.
If you're not in a good t-mobile 4G lte coverage area and just want the traditional hspa+ option, follow the same steps, but DO NOT enable lte band 4, and instead use "epc.tmobile.com" for apn. This way you won't need to be rooted. If you are already rooted and did enable lte B4, just switch the phone to gsm/umts mode under network mode, that will disable lte.
Now if you want to go the extra mile and remove the sim warning, get Titanium Backup from Play Store and freeze the app "Setup Wizard", the app with the "magic wand" above the red "check mark". You'll have to be rooted to do that.
If you follow similar steps, you can also get AT&T hspa+ to work, obviously with an AT&T sim and AT&T apn settings ("pta" for the apn, but AT&T has their lte on a different band, so you can't get AT&T 4G lte to work on this phone. For their hspa+, the steps are the same as for t-mobile hspa+, except for the actual apn settings.
newuser134 said:
Hi everyone,
Finally managed to do what I was trying to accomplish on my VZW Galaxy S3 for almost a year.
I'm not sure if anyone else has already accomplished this or not. If anyone has, then sorry about the duplicate post (even though I haven't found any posts specifically describing how to do it).
It took me some research to see that both t-mobile and vzw run on band 4 block f (1700mhz-f), so I thought they should both be able to tune to the same lte band. Even though I was able to get H+ from a t-mobile prepaid sim to work on the vzw note 3, I was still not completely satisfied, so I kept at it till lte finally worked too.
I do give credit to the thread about "All things service mode" which described how to enable the service mode menu and then how to turn on lte band 4.
This DOES confirm that by turning on lte band 4 under service menu, it does really turn on, no firmware update is required to enable the additional layer of the lte band.
It's almost 4 a.m. so I'll get to the details a little later, but just wanted to post this as soon as I got it working, I know it'll make lots of people happy.
I got 28 mbps down and 6 mbps up on t-mobile where I get about 8m and 2m with vzw lte, respectively.
Look at the screen shots below. I did a little research and was able to get that annoying "non-Verizon sim" warning off too, but credit for that goes to someone else here on xda, I didn't figure that out, I will just relay that here for a one stop shop on how to use a t-mobile or other GSM sims in the vzw version. I will link to that post later when I have more time. Anyway, see below and let me know of your thoughts, I will add more details later.
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Wow! Nice! I'm actually considering dumping verizon along with my unlimited data as Verion's network in my area (Nashville-Bellevue, TN) has progressively gotten worse over time. I used to get 3-4 bars with 4-10 Mbps down about a year and a half ago to 2-3 bars with 0.5-3 Mbps these past few months; now this past week, It's dropped to only 1 bar, and I can barely load google.com, I can't even run speed tests anymore. Verizon just told me that service in my neighborhood fluctuates and told me to purchase a $300 network extender..
Please tell me how you were able to get this.. I've already enabled Band 4 LTE on my phone hoping Nashville would have verizon's new AWS spectrum, but nothing yet. I'm sick of Verizon and I think I am ready for change, would definitely love to test this out on prepaid before I make my final decision.
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Is there a particular reason you wouldn't want to just get the t mobile version note 3 (unlock able bootloader). Perhaps I'm missing something but is there any benefit to the Verizon version. Now I would love to get the t mobile phone working on Verizon on the other hand.
Since the device is factory unlocked for operation on GSM US carriers, of course it'll work on T-Mobile as they're transmitting LTE on Band 4.
It's been discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48760230&postcount=221 but keep in mind that Verizon Note 3 variant doesn't support T-Mobile's main 3G/Voice/HSPA+42 frequency which is AWS (2100/1700). It does support T-Mobile's secondary HSPA+21 in the PCS band, which is also where their GSM/EDGE services reside.
No hacking is necessary unless your device doesn't have Band 4 turned on (for some reason). My device came with Band 4 enabled, but it came with the latest radio as well...
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Since the device is factory unlocked for operation on GSM US carriers, of course it'll work on T-Mobile as they're transmitting LTE on Band 4.
It's been discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48760230&postcount=221 but keep in mind that Verizon Note 3 variant doesn't support T-Mobile's main 3G/Voice/HSPA+42 frequency which is AWS (2100/1700). It does support T-Mobile's secondary HSPA+21 in the PCS band, which is also where their GSM/EDGE services reside.
No hacking is necessary unless your device doesn't have Band 4 turned on (for some reason). My device came with Band 4 enabled, but it came with the latest radio as well...
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I wasn't really saying anything about any hacking, but mine did not come with lte band 4 enabled, I'm guessing a lot of other people's Note 3's probably don't either.
Also, I'm not that surprised or exited that it works with their 1900 mhz hspa+, but I wasn't expecting the t-mobile version of lte to work with a cdma phone's lte. And it didn't right off the start, it required a little tweak to the apn setting. Anyway, it may be obvious to those who know about lte bands, but the average user may not be aware of that, so I thought I'd post this so people could use this thread to use the t-mobile prepaid plans on their vzw Note 3 if they wanted to.
Please look at the first post for directions to be added.
FrostyOrDie said:
Is there a particular reason you wouldn't want to just get the t mobile version note 3 (unlock able bootloader). Perhaps I'm missing something but is there any benefit to the Verizon version. Now I would love to get the t mobile phone working on Verizon on the other hand.
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The reason is a lot of people who want to have the option to be on the Verizon network because it has very good coverage compared to the other carriers, also want to be able to use it on a GSM carrier's network, such as t-mobile, because they have unlimited or cheaper lte plans, however, Verizon is a cdma carrier, and it is usually not possible to get a GSM phone, even if it is unlocked, to work on a cdma network, so buying a t-mobile version would only allow it to work on t-mobile, not on Verizon, but the Verizon version works on both. Also, if it works on the t-mobile pcs band H+, it will work on overseas gsm carriers' networks, so local sims from there could be used for those who travel there and have Verizon, as opposed to expensive roaming charges. Hope that explains it and answers your questions.
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but keep in mind that Verizon Note 3 variant doesn't support T-Mobile's main 3G/Voice/HSPA+42 frequency which is AWS (2100/1700).
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For those who have the Dev Edition Verizon Note 3, do you think flashing a t-mobile baseband (modem) or a modified "hybrid" modem would enable the AWS band for hspa+ 42? I'm basically asking if you think the SM-N900V version Note 3 has native support for the AWS band even though it may not be enabled for Verizon, since it must have the 1700 mhz antenna if it has lte band 4? I know lte and wcdma are different, but as far as RF goes, the ability to receive 1700 mhz is already there. That would be kinda like the original att Note that had support for AWS but had to have a t-mobile modem flashed before it was enabled. As I've heard, the DE Verizon Note 3 is very similar to the t-mobile Note 3, at least for roms and kernels.
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For those who have the Dev Edition Verizon Note 3, do you think flashing a t-mobile baseband (modem) or a modified "hybrid" modem would enable the AWS band for hspa+ 42? I'm basically asking if you think the SM-N900V version Note 3 has native support for the AWS band even though it may not be enabled for Verizon, since it must have the 1700 mhz antenna if it has lte band 4? I know lte and wcdma are different, but as far as RF goes, the ability to receive 1700 mhz is already there. That would be kinda like the original att Note that had support for AWS but had to have a t-mobile modem flashed before it was enabled. As I've heard, the DE Verizon Note 3 is very similar to the t-mobile Note 3, at least for roms and kernels.
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That is a very interesting topic especially if we consider that AWS transceiver and signal path already exists. If we look at the FCC antenna diagram for SM-N900V we can see that B4 antenna is shared with CDMA at the top left corner, which could indicate that would be B4 UMTS path as although it's not displayed since the B4 UMTS certification hasn't been requested by Verizon.
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Left side is the B4 Rx diversity required for LTE MIMO operation, and at the right side is B4 dedicated Tx which is a nice touch.
This is what's been tested and certified for btw:
You could always try, but obviously be prepared for it not to work, etc...
waleed300 said:
Wow! Nice! I'm actually considering dumping verizon along with my unlimited data as Verion's network in my area (Nashville-Bellevue, TN) has progressively gotten worse over time. I used to get 3-4 bars with 4-10 Mbps down about a year and a half ago to 2-3 bars with 0.5-3 Mbps these past few months; now this past week, It's dropped to only 1 bar, and I can barely load google.com, I can't even run speed tests anymore. Verizon just told me that service in my neighborhood fluctuates and told me to purchase a $300 network extender..
Please tell me how you were able to get this.. I've already enabled Band 4 LTE on my phone hoping Nashville would have verizon's new AWS spectrum, but nothing yet. I'm sick of Verizon and I think I am ready for change, would definitely love to test this out on prepaid before I make my final decision.
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if you decide to dump verizon unlimited data let me know so I can assume your line. Ill even pay you a pretty penny since most of us know these have value on ebay.
platinumyahoo said:
if you decide to dump verizon unlimited data let me know so I can assume your line. Ill even pay you a pretty penny since most of us know these have value on ebay.
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I'll sell you my unlimited VZW line for literally $0.01
Contract is up in the 2nd week of this February...And I'm doing this exact thing with my N3. In fact, I already have the TMO SIM for $30/mo plan activated and tested it all out today.
I don't know if you can assume liability of a line once the contract is up, since it would be month-2-month at that point, but if it's possible, I'd let mine go for a penny.
carlz28 said:
I'll sell you my unlimited VZW line for literally $0.01
Contract is up in the 2nd week of this February...And I'm doing this exact thing with my N3. In fact, I already have the TMO SIM for $30/mo plan activated and tested it all out today.
I don't know if you can assume liability of a line once the contract is up, since it would be month-2-month at that point, but if it's possible, I'd let mine go for a penny.
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PMed
Will this work the other way around a T Mobile Note 3 working on verizon with LTE functioning?
kwkw480 said:
Will this work the other way around a T Mobile Note 3 working on verizon with LTE functioning?
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No, no other carrier's phone or device will work on Verizon. In general, no gsm device will work on any cdma network, because cdma devices have to be approved by that provider to work on their network. Any unlocked gsm or cdma device with a sim will work on a GSM network.
To add T-Mobile APNs wouldn't it just be easier to replace the apn-config.xml file. Easy to do if you are rooted and have the app root explorer or something similar. Imnuts has one pre-built with pretty much every apn in the world already in it. Worked great for my Note 2, should be fine for the Note 3. Heres the link to imnuts post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044449
Just tried my friends Straight Talk ATT sim card and I only got H+ but, it was a little faster than my Verizon LTE..... In this location. And should mention my signal was at -78dbm vs Verizon @ -98dbm. Glad when my contract is up.
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Too, I wanted to add that I powered my phone down and swapped out sim cards. Powered back on and was able to add my APN by hitting the plus at the bottom of the screen. I did use chain fires Region lock away app. Not sure this is 100% relative to the thread but wanted to share. And if it's not, then I do apologize for hi jacking.
Im assuming if I switch to metro pcs with a sim then ill be able to use their 4g? Its basically tmobile right?
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I took the plunge and paid for a month of service on tmobile. Unfortunately the best I got was H+. I tried to manually force band 4 LTE, selected cdma, lte in the settings. According to the coverage map im in a 4g LTE area. I drove around a couple of cities and I have not been able to get it to show. I'm also located near downtown los angeles. I can't stand the crazy latency and super slow service so the sim is going into the trash.
Can you explain what I have to do a little better? I just got a Verizon note 3 from someone and trying to use MetroPCS sim.
FrostyOrDie said:
Is there a particular reason you wouldn't want to just get the t mobile version note 3 (unlock able bootloader). Perhaps I'm missing something but is there any benefit to the Verizon version. Now I would love to get the t mobile phone working on Verizon on the other hand.
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Is this even possible? I fully agree that getting verizon to work on tmobile phone would be a better route than vise-versa
I currently own both and have both services. I wanted to use my tmobile phone so i would not have to buy the verizon phone. Apparently it seems that the tmobile phone does not have what it takes to run cdma.
Sorry if im wrong here guys, ive been out of the phone game for a bit. I always thought the issue lied with verizon restricting service to native esn's/imei's on the network. If vzw allowed foreign esns on their network, any unlocked world phone would work.
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Ok I took the plunge... I hate verizon but love my current note 3 so....
I bought an T-Mobile Prepay SIM card, activated 1 month of service.
I get three bars signal but never get data. I can make calls and send sms but no data
I tried both APN's in OP.
Any input?
I found something interesting on reddit:
Go to dialer, put in 277634#*#
Band selection
Select all and press save.
My data went up from about 25mbps to over 50mbps.
Can't guarantee this to work with all carriers/models but you could try? Let me know if you do?
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What is it supposed to do, turn on carrier aggregation or something?
ChazzMatt said:
What is it supposed to do, turn on carrier aggregation or something?
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So I lied, went from around 8mbps. I'm guessing it activates all bands? I used different sources on Speedtest.
It did this:
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Oh and it does show band 71 unlike the photos I sent before showing the bands.
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Which of the bands were unselected before? I don't see how this method improved data speeds, unless very common bands were not enabled(kind of unlikely). Then access to certain band or carrier aggregation with that band would have been disabled. Please use app like Cellmapper to verify which band/tower you are one when doing speedtests.
PS. No T-Mobile variant system dump yet? or captured update?
VeixES said:
Which of the bands were unselected before? I don't see how this method improved data speeds, unless very common bands were not enabled(kind of unlikely). Then access to certain band or carrier aggregation with that band would have been disabled. Please use app like Cellmapper to verify which band/tower you are one when doing speedtests.
PS. No T-Mobile variant system dump yet? or captured update?
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None were selected at all. Not sure why that is. I'll look into Cellmapper.
I haven't used android exclusively for a few years, so forgive me if I'm still relearning it. I just know that I suddenly had increased speed on download after doing this.
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Oh,, if none selected then you were probably camping on 3g aka fake 4g in tmous terms. Then speed boost is obvious.
LG V30 is a Gigabit LTE device, so have best chance getting good speeds now and in the future.
I'm not sure I want to do that in case it's a toggle. After my data came back post update (took a day), I ran some speed tests and hit 143.83 DL and 27.40 UL. Which is kind of a statistical outlier but I'll take it. I've gotten 95 and 98 a couple of times. I'm currently sitting out at the edge of the KC metro area and only get 60 out here but again, I'll take it. At a certain point you just hit speeds where it doesn't really matter anymore.
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Oh and it does show band 71 unlike the photos I sent before showing the bands.
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Nice to see all of those bands. I wonder if those who have other models, like the H933, could give that a try and see what selection they have. Band 66 doesn't seem to show up through the usual engineering menu dialer code and neither did 71.
Couldn't get this code to work on my Tmobile device. I hit Call after I put in the code and it said it was an invalid code. The weird thing is now my speeds are abysmal. I was getting 20+ down earlier, now I'm getting 1.x down. And my uploads are close to 0. Where did you get this code from?
Code worked for me. I turned on all the bands. Speed test was about 10mbs higher than before. Thanks for the info!
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Couldn't get this code to work on my Tmobile device. I hit Call after I put in the code and it said it was an invalid code. The weird thing is now my speeds are abysmal. I was getting 20+ down earlier, now I'm getting 1.x down. And my uploads are close to 0. Where did you get this code from?
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Worked for me on my Tmobile V30. You don't need to hit the call button. Are you using the default dialer?
getbuzzin said:
Worked for me on my Tmobile V30. You don't need to hit the call button. Are you using the default dialer?
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Strange, after a reset it worked for me. Ping has decreased but speeds are still very slow.
Sure enough, tried it with back to back speed tests and my speeds went down after doing it.
Japultra said:
Couldn't get this code to work on my Tmobile device. I hit Call after I put in the code and it said it was an invalid code. The weird thing is now my speeds are abysmal. I was getting 20+ down earlier, now I'm getting 1.x down. And my uploads are close to 0. Where did you get this code from?
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You don't hit call at all! If you hit call, the code wasn't proper. You just copy and paste into dialer.
277634#*#
You can also select reset and it won't hurt anything but I selected reset and went back to lower data speeds.
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Went back in and selected Reset which unchecks all the boxes and returns you to Default and ran a speed test again. So here's how it went:
Before code and checking all bands: 96.03 DL 12.85 UL 59 Ping
Code and checks attempt 1: 76.47 DL 10.04 UL 63 Ping
Attempt 2: 79.41 DL 14.75 UL 67 Ping
Code and reset to previous default: 94.88 DL 26.65 UL 60 Ping
Pressed reset and save, the ones circled are the ones with none selected.
Maybe this is influenced by where you live? Maybe only the most commonly used bands should be ticked on? I still haven't had the chance to use that app.
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Cellspotter shows I mostly use band 2, 66, and 12. My dBm is lowest with band 66. I thought that was only an AT&T band though? [emoji50]
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Edit: I'm lying again, turned off 66, band 12 has the lowest dBm.
It reverts to band 66 the most if all boxes are checked in my apartment.
I got on here with the US Cellular version and when I get to the Modem Settings, I don't have any check boxes next to the listed bands. Any thoughts on where I can go to see that? All of the bands show without the option to check off multiple.
This code does not work on the European H930 Model.. Is it just 277634#*# or something more?.
Update: Found the LTE band menu by using the *#54638#*930# code... I didn't have any checkboxes... Everything seems enabled to me... Separate menu is present to enable carrier aggregation around there..
Has anyone been able to get 5G support in the USA with Xperia 1 lV XQ-CT72 ?
I have tried T-Mobile and also AT&T on mine and the best I can do is "LTE+" on T-Mobile
On AT&T it says only LTE, yet I am getting the same DL speeds as I did wit T-Mobile around 84mb
kuau said:
Has anyone been able to get 5G support in the USA with Xperia 1 lV XQ-CT72 ?
I have tried T-Mobile and also AT&T on mine and the best I can do is "LTE+" on T-Mobile
On AT&T it says only LTE, yet I am getting the same DL speeds as I did wit T-Mobile around 84mb
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Go into carrier band settings and disable dual Sim mode,
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Go into carrier band settings and disable dual Sim mode,
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Thanks yet I don't see where to disable dual sim mode, In "About Phone" Sim Status sin slot 2 shows not available.,
kuau said:
Thanks yet I don't see where to disable dual sim mode, In "About Phone" Sim Status sin slot 2 shows not available.,
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Download voWiFi go to Phone Info and when you see "Enable DSDS" Toggle it off
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Download voWiFi go to Phone Info and when you see "Enable DSDS" Toggle it off
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Done I did that and rebooted the phone anything else I need to do
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Done I did that and rebooted the phone anything else I need to do
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Check if you have NR selected in Sim Mode
That is 5G, on Reddit people have tried it and they say it's working
Also check you have the SIM card in Primary slot
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That is 5G, on Reddit people have tried it and they say it's working
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Thanks for your help. Can yo send me the link to the reddit thread discussion this
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Thanks for your help. Can yo send me the link to the reddit thread discussion this
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/wt7ecm/_/il6qthu
Thanks again I was able to figure it out on my own here In the USA my Xperia now shows 5G with AT&T I’m not sure if I am actually getting 5G speeds though
With a good connection what should my DL speeds be approximately?
Lastly I assume when the US variant starts shipping here in the States it will probably not support Wi-Fi calling either
Hard to tell really, depends on a type of network, congestion, signal quality.........and server speed on the other side.
Its clear to me that with the international version of this phone in the USA you don't get 5g speed
I did a test I ran SpeedTest using the same SIM card. One on my iPhone and got over 150mp transfer, I then put there same SIM card in my Xperia 1 IV device and even though it shows "5G"Service I am getting half the speed approximately 70mp download. So it's still running in LTE mode... Vert frustrating
But that doesn't tell that it's LTE. 5G can be worse then LTE. Unless you can lock on a specific cell on a certain tower and do proper testing which can also give veeeery different results, it's hard to tell what you are actually using. There are some apps that kinda tell you network info but it is not the same as proper testing app with all the details and ability to lock on to a specific cell. Been doing that with Huawei equipment recently and......well, very time consuming process and very frustrating vhen the same phone on the same spot can lock on some frequency but can't on another for the same technology on the same tower. And speed was anything from 50-500 MB, depends whether it was low band or high band and 735347 factors. And repeating the test right after can produce very different results.
Unless you try that 20 times with each phone on the same spot and preferably in hours of lower congestion and then have some consistency in results that xperia is always twice slower it might be just coincidence.
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But that doesn't tell that it's LTE. 5G can be worse then LTE. Unless you can lock on a specific cell on a certain tower and do proper testing which can also give veeeery different results, it's hard to tell what you are actually using. There are some apps that kinda tell you network info but it is not the same as proper testing app with all the details and ability to lock on to a specific cell. Been doing that with Huawei equipment recently and......well, very time consuming process and very frustrating vhen the same phone on the same spot can lock on some frequency but can't on another for the same technology on the same tower. And speed was anything from 50-500 MB, depends whether it was low band or high band and 735347 factors. And repeating the test right after can produce very different results.
Unless you try that 20 times with each phone on the same spot and preferably in hours of lower congestion and then have some consistency in results that xperia is always twice slower it might be just coincidence.
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I live in a rural area where there is only one tower. I did the test one after another. First with the iPhone using Speed Test from Ookia and then pulled the SIM card out and put it in the Xperia, using the same app on the Xperia I experienced much slower speeds and I did run the test multiple times.
I am in Australia, before this trick I got a maximum of 200mbs after figuring this out I am getting 300 - 800mb so it seems it's working on my end
have too be careful what actually being displayed for 5G service icon , I have found on the XQ-CT72 it will show 5g icon, but with LTE dicovery app, it shows its only connected to 2 different LTE bands, the download speeds are horrible like 10mbps, with the USA model pixel 6 pro it shows 5g and LTE App shows its connected to 5G NSA71 which is the true "5g" band and download speeds are 75-100 mbps, so I returned my 1 IV and see what happens with the USA model after it been out a while., then maybe I`ll buy that one, until now pixel 6 pro for now.
kuau said:
Has anyone been able to get 5G support in the USA with Xperia 1 lV XQ-CT72 ?
I have tried T-Mobile and also AT&T on mine and the best I can do is "LTE+" on T-Mobile
On AT&T it says only LTE, yet I am getting the same DL speeds as I did wit T-Mobile around 84mb
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Are folks checking if 5G is ACTUALLY being broadcast in their areas? Just because we see advertising on TV for 5g or a phone has 5g capability (have to check bands but some versions of this phone do have the 5g bands for the US) or a phone displays 5g in status bar (lol) but in reality is getting 4g (aka LTE). Even all typical LTE bands are not all broadcast in any given area e.g in my area Tmobile has 4 and 2 but nothing else and AT&T has 2 and 17 and nothing else. Too many times I see people endlessly discussing these 4g/5G issues without looking at the actual towers and what they are sending out in their respective areas.
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have too be careful what actually being displayed for 5G service icon , I have found on the XQ-CT72 it will show 5g icon, but with LTE dicovery app, it shows its only connected to 2 different LTE bands, the download speeds are horrible like 10mbps, with the USA model pixel 6 pro it shows 5g and LTE App shows its connected to 5G NSA71 which is the true "5g" band and download speeds are 75-100 mbps, so I returned my 1 IV and see what happens with the USA model after it been out a while., then maybe I`ll buy that one, until now pixel 6 pro for now.
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You have to also check what bands are actually being broadcast by the towers in your area of usage. Further the carriers go loose with the way what they call 5g (marketing). Also bands like 66 extended LTE is just seen in a couple of spots in a general large area like 30 x 30 sq miles where I am. At least that is what I have seen.