[Q]Titanium backup question and also list of Alternative "markets" people use
I do not own a kindle fire HDX, but I may get one for Christmas this year. Unlike some people in these forums, I would not care if the kindle's amazon services were broken, only reason I chose this tablet was for the SnapDragon 800 and Adreno 330 over the nexus 7's S4 pro and Adreno 320. So if i were to get the 7 inch variant and root it, what markets do you use to get your Google play store apps? another question that I have is the use of titanium backup. I own a HTC Evo 4g lte smartphone running Android 4.1.2. if i were to get an app on my phone, back it up with titanium backup, then copy that folder to my kindle, and try restoring the apps(just the app not the data) using a copy of titanium backup on my kindle, would this work? if someone who has another android device and a rooted kindle and wants to try this out that would be awesome. Any response is appreciated.
spaghettiknight said:
I do not own a kindle fire HDX, but I may get one for Christmas this year. Unlike some people in these forums, I would not care if the kindle's amazon services were broken, only reason I chose this tablet was for the SnapDragon 800 and Adreno 330 over the nexus 7's S4 pro and Adreno 320. So if i were to get the 7 inch variant and root it, what markets do you use to get your Google play store apps? another question that I have is the use of titanium backup. I own a HTC Evo 4g lte smartphone running Android 4.1.2. if i were to get an app on my phone, back it up with titanium backup, then copy that folder to my kindle, and try restoring the apps(just the app not the data) using a copy of titanium backup on my kindle, would this work? if someone who has another android device and a rooted kindle and wants to try this out that would be awesome. Any response is appreciated.
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There are several alternative markets mentioned around. I use 1Mobile. (http://www.1mobile.com/) it has many of the same apps as the Play Store, just maybe not the most current version. Be aware it will install its own market app but it's not intrusive.
As for restoring backups from TiBu, If it's s paid app then you'll likely run into licensing issues since the app won't be able to verify the license with the Play Store. If it's a game you're restoring then game data will/may have to be downloaded again to resolve differences in graphics chips. I restored TiBu and Root Explorer, both paid. TiBu works but as the free version. Root Explorer seemed to work fine. Other games I restored wouldn't load at all, failing on license check.
Tony
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There are several alternative markets mentioned around. I use 1Mobile. (http://www.1mobile.com/) it has many of the same apps as the Play Store, just maybe not the most current version. Be aware it will install its own market app but it's not intrusive.
As for restoring backups from TiBu, If it's s paid app then you'll likely run into licensing issues since the app won't be able to verify the license with the Play Store. If it's a game you're restoring then game data will/may have to be downloaded again to resolve differences in graphics chips. I restored TiBu and Root Explorer, both paid. TiBu works but as the free version. Root Explorer seemed to work fine. Other games I restored wouldn't load at all, failing on license check.
Tony
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thanks, i just thought i would ask. i'll check out 1mobile.
Thanks for the quick reply!
Just throwing in my two cents here. While titanium backup works on the fire after root it gets hung on the checking for license screen of you install the pro apk. This happens even if you restore the data folder it creates with the licensing info. Also 1mobile seems to work just fine.
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I am trying to figure out the best way to transfer apps from my rooted Captivate to the Atrix. Titanium backup would be the natural choice, but it only works on a rooted phone which the Atrix isn't, at least for now. I could go to the android web page https://market.android.com/ and tell it to download each app separately. But I am wondering if there is a non rooted backup/restore app that will let me selectively backup/restore?? I say selectively because I do not want to restore those apps that require a rooted phone.
Then there is the question of the market place which saves your downloaded app list linked to your gmail account. I do not want market place to remember those apps I don't want on the Atrix. So the question is how do you instruct the market place to "forget" installed apps? The only way I know of would be to install ALL the apps via either a backup program or thru the web client, then de-install those from the phone I don't want which would then wipe them out from market place account so they will not keep re-appearing in my app list.
I should have my Atrix in my hands this Monday!
I would too like to know this. Thanks to anyone who knows the answer!
Try AppMonster.....there's a pro version as well
I would suggest App Brain personally...That's what I've been using during my time with my EVO.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.appspot.swisscodemonkeys.apps&feature=search_result
App brain, a trackdog, and appbak
Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon
Actually, AppBrain and all those "add-on Markets" won't work with the Atrix out of the box. AT&T disallowed sideloading and that counts apps like that.
On the plus side, the Atrix has already been rooted (read the first topic in the Dev section of the Atrix forum)...so it lets you do anything you want.
Check the Atrix dev sub forum - They have root!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960336
GREAT
OK looks like we are going to have our Atrix rooted and Titanium backup working but there is still the problem of the market links. There is some reference to market links in Titanium backup but not sure if that works to enable updates and there's still the issue of un-installed not wanted apps getting unregistered with market place. I had lost some apps and reinstalled with Titanium backup and I am not sure if I regained the market links or not. I am certainly not complaining and expect to spend many hours setting up the phone...thats part of the fun. Until a solution appears the best way to handle this may be to install the apps separately from the market place or via the web. I will try other programs others have suggested and post a solution here if found.
You can still sideload via ADB - so if you have the APK file it is simple to side load many.
How do you extract your own apk's? Been wondering this for a while now
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You can use adb to pull them off your phone...
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I'm coming from an Evo so not familiar with this sideloading business - is there a primer someplace?
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Actually, AppBrain and all those "add-on Markets" won't work with the Atrix out of the box. AT&T disallowed sideloading and that counts apps like that.
On the plus side, the Atrix has already been rooted (read the first topic in the Dev section of the Atrix forum)...so it lets you do anything you want.
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App brain only side loads? I though by synching my account, it would allow me to re download all applications from the market that is how it checks for upgrades anyway.
I use.app brain to actually check for updates to apparently o had installed through Titanium, apparently that do NOT have market links.
Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon
MyAppList
The free program MyAppList will make a text file of all the apps installed on your phone. I am going to un-install any apps i do not want installed on the Atrix. Then print out MyAppList. Then go to the market place on my Captivate and goto "my apps" so that the market updates what I do and do not have on the phone. When the Atrix arrives, I will register with my same email. Then on the Atrix i will go to the market place so it will update the installed list. Then I will go market place on the PC and install all of my listed apps, checking off each one on MyAppList as I go. The advantages are I will be sure to get all the apps, there will be no question as to what is or is not installed, the Atrix will automatically install the apps and the apps will get updates thru the market. I have 397 apps installed on the phone, maybe 225 of them are 3rd party apps so it may take a couple of hours to download and install them all but since the Atrix runs so quickly it may go a lot faster.
My Captivate is maxed out. I have a lot of widgets running and am constantly running out of memory. And then there is the lag problem which gets worse when you are running out of memory. With 1 gig of ram there is plently of memory with room to spare. This is going to be a very welcomed upgrade.
I am wondering exactly when the phones will arrive at the AT&T store. Are there Sunday deliveries? Monday is Presidents Day. I am going to the store tomorrow (Sunday) to see if they arrived and see if they will give it to me.....
Hey guys,
Forgive me if this question has been covered, I did plenty of searching without finding what I was after.
I have an app that was installed via Android Market. And so, the Android Market knows when new versions are out and notifies me of an update. Titanium Backup calls this the 'Market Link', not sure what else it could be called.
My question is, how would I go about 'disconnecting' the app from the Market? Deleting the market link as if it were side-loaded?
Yes, I know this means no more updates for the app etc. Which is actually what I'm after.
For reference, I'm using a SGS - DocRom V9.6 with Speedmod Kernel k13a
Thanks.
Hey Guys,
So no body knows how to delete the link between app and Android Market so that the Market no longer knows it's installed?
Or am I best copying the app somehow, uninstalling it and then side-loading it?
Thanks.
Using Titanium Backup (Pro) long click/press on the app you want to 'disconnect' from the market.
Then select Detach from Market
I added (Pro) because I'm not sure if it works on the standard version or not..which I'd highly recommend getting the pro version if you don't already have it.
Awesome thanks for the tip, I didin't know there was an extended menu if I long-pressed an app in Ti Backup.
Though once I long-press, 'Disconnect' is greyed out. And in fact, all my apps have this greyed out (And I do have pro), yet they all show in Android Market?
'Force Attach to Market' doesn't seem to do anything either.
Weird, I'm able to Detach the market link of both /data and /system apps - some of which I do and do not have backups of.
I'm not sure if this will really do anything, but you can always try using the "market doctor" to find missing market links, then see if you're able to remove the link that it finds. But to be honest, I'm not really sure that will do the trick nor do I have any clue why that option isn't available to you
Only other thing I can think of is to clear the market's cache/data:
Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage applications > All > Market
click force stop then clear data & clear cache
If they're both blanked out, just use TiBackup to wipe the market data.
After all that, see if you're able to Detach the Market Links
Hope this works
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Thanks for the help.
Looks like clearing the data from the Market app (as you described) has allowed me to detach my apps from the Market through Ti Backup now.
That's not how I managed to do it though. I did it a far more complicated way!
I made sure I had a backup of the app, then uninstalled it.
I then browsed to the Titanium Backup backup folder on the internal SD card, and found the *.properties file of the app in question.
Long press on it and opened it in Text Editor.
I then deleted out every line that started with 'market.'
I then saved it, and Ti Backup automatically creates a backup of the original file.
Then I restored the app.
But to get this process to work, I also had to clear the Market app data (as per your tip).
Did I mention complicated!
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Thanks for the help.
Looks like clearing the data from the Market app (as you described) has allowed me to detach my apps from the Market through Ti Backup now.
That's not how I managed to do it though. I did it a far more complicated way!
I made sure I had a backup of the app, then uninstalled it.
I then browsed to the Titanium Backup backup folder on the internal SD card, and found the *.properties file of the app in question.
Long press on it and opened it in Text Editor.
I then deleted out every line that started with 'market.'
I then saved it, and Ti Backup automatically creates a backup of the original file.
Then I restored the app.
But to get this process to work, I also had to clear the Market app data (as per your tip).
Did I mention complicated!
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Not sure I'll get a reply on an over a year old thread but worth a try. I tried this method but didn't work for me. When restoring the app did you restore data also? Thanks.
I'm still here! :laugh:
The app I was trying to disconnect from the market I don't think had any real data to restore, so I don't think I was restoring data as well, no.
I'd say both the Market (now Play Store) and Ti Backup have changed a fair bit since this post. Ti Backup does have the ability to detach apps from the Play Store, if you find it in the app list and long press it will show the option. Some apps I think won't detach, and it could be because they're linked to your google/gmail account (for certain permissions or whatever). If they remain linked to that account, then I guess the Play Store still thinks it's installed on the phone (because it is).
Sorry I couldn't be of any more help!
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I'm still here! :laugh:
The app I was trying to disconnect from the market I don't think had any real data to restore, so I don't think I was restoring data as well, no.
I'd say both the Market (now Play Store) and Ti Backup have changed a fair bit since this post. Ti Backup does have the ability to detach apps from the Play Store, if you find it in the app list and long press it will show the option. Some apps I think won't detach, and it could be because they're linked to your google/gmail account (for certain permissions or whatever). If they remain linked to that account, then I guess the Play Store still thinks it's installed on the phone (because it is).
Sorry I couldn't be of any more help!
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Thanks for the reply. The app I wanted to break from the market is Business Calendar Pro that I bought a while back. The new updates don't work with the ROM on my phone so I wanted to stop the updates. I have MyBackup Pro and it has an option to break the market link but doesn't work. I haven't bought Ti Backup but use the free version. I don't want to buy it just to find that it won't work. I don't think Biz Cal uses google data but it does us the built in calendar's data so that might be why I can't break the link. Oh well. I'll keep trying different options. Thanks again.
Hi, not sure if this will do the trick but you could try extracting the APK for the app (not sure if TiB can do it or this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extract.apk) And then uninstall the market version and side-load the extracted version. I have a feeling it may not work as sometimes when I've side-loaded beta versions the released version has shown up in the Play Store as installed. When I try and uninstall it from there, the Play app tells me the app wasn't installed from Play and gets me to confirm uninstall.
I guess that's the long way of saying that the Play Store app must be using some mechanism to detect apps installed on the phone, even if not from the store.
Thanks again but the market seems to keep the data linked somehow. I'll keep trying different scenarios I guess...
did you find any method that work?
Honestly I haven't had time to mess around with it this weekend, but I'll keep up on the research and post here if I find something out. Thanks
Titanium Backup is not working for sure, at least for now, maibe they'll fix this sometimes!
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We are aware of the detach apps not working. This is mainly because of the recent upgrade from google market to google play. We are working on it but Google Play is really stubborn! We need your help to "star" this post so that it comes into notice by Google
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=27431
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Also tried Rom Toolbox, still nothing
Yea. I figured that. Glad I didn't buy either to try them. thanks. It sucks but will have to deal with for now I guess.
found a fix
Hey. So I was looking around some more and found an app called "market fixer" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kstudio.marketfixer&hl=en
It seems to scan apps that aren't linked to the market. The other thing it does, if you "scan all links", is give you all your market links which you can then select and "delete market link"
I check and it works. Also some reported it stops working on reboot,but mine worked fine. The app does warn that it will need to be reapplied if market data is cleared. Just wanted to update you and hopefully help anyone else with these troubles
Hi. I just gave this ago and worked very well. Thanks for finding that out and sharing.
LincolnBlack said:
Hi. I just gave this ago and worked very well. Thanks for finding that out and sharing.
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Glad it works for you too. Take care.
easiest way is to just run batch mode in titanium there is an option yo detach user and system apps from market
edit: i use pro version btw and works for me jus fine
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update on market fixer. I guess if you clean google play cache it relinks also. easy enough for me to use market fixer before I "update all" though so no prob for me.
I purchased Titanium Backup Pro for my Nook Tablet because I wanted to be able to freeze the device manager to prevent the OTA to 1.41. Well it worked! Many thanks for the advice, but I have a question...... I have Titanium Backup FREE on my Droid X and I wish to upgrade to the Pro version I bought for the Nook Tablet.
My understanding is that the Titanium Backup license allows you to have the app on all of your own android devices. How do I get my free version to turn into the pro version? I have seached High and Low and the Titanium Backup Wiki is the only help they offer and it is seriously lacking on this issue. I need help, please?!
Try going to the Android Market on your computer and look under "My Library" for the purchased app and see if it will let you "install" it to your Droid X. Click the "Purchased" button and then select your Droid X and then click "Install" - and it should install to your Droid X when you have internet access. OR and I'm only guessing here, but if you were to uninstall it from your Droid X and then go to the market it should show as purchased when you search for it and you can just re-install it.
~ G
There were two parts I downloaded. The titianium backup app (free, easily found in the Android market once you have rooted) and the pro key (an app that I had purchased and was in the "my apps" section of the android market).
It doesn't matter the order, but you can just download them both and be on your way.
Hey All:
Bought PvZ during today's sale on my Nexus S. Play Store claims that it's not compatible with my Tablet S (though the thread in this forum claims that it is). Canadian Tab running American ICS 4.0.3 rooted with Condi.
I've used Titanium Backup on my Nexus, and tried to restore that backup on my Tablet, and also tried to extract the APK and install. No luck so far. PvZ downloads the additional 80mb, restarts, shows an hourglass, and then goes back to menu before the PopCap logo (no FC notification).
Can anybody help me get this running on my tablet? Thanks!
--Databoy2k
I've been seeing this BS more and more that certain devices are banned from getting updates and others aren't. I have a few different devices on difference version of Android and what i've found myself doing is backing up the apps on a supported device using appmonster free and then uploading it to my dropbox and installing it on the "unsupported" device
So following a tutorial by Android Cowboy, I got some Google apps to work (except youtube). Unfortunately, messages will come up saying "google service frameworks has stopped working", or process.gapps.something has stopped working". How do I stop these from showing up? They are quite annoying.
I found the easiest way to get this working was to backup the same apps from my phone, galaxy nexus, using titanium backup and then restoring them to the kindle hdx. This does require root though. But this got my google services all working and as long as I don't try to download anything from the play store then I can search the site just fine.
Just remember to immediately turn off auto updates in the play store and stop any updates that have already tried to start.
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I found the easiest way to get this working was to backup the same apps from my phone, galaxy nexus, using titanium backup and then restoring them to the kindle hdx. This does require root though. But this got my google services all working and as long as I don't try to download anything from the play store then I can search the site just fine.
Just remember to immediately turn off auto updates in the play store and stop any updates that have already tried to start.
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Interesting approach!
I shall try it
kholdstare said:
I found the easiest way to get this working was to backup the same apps from my phone, galaxy nexus, using titanium backup and then restoring them to the kindle hdx. This does require root though. But this got my google services all working and as long as I don't try to download anything from the play store then I can search the site just fine.
Just remember to immediately turn off auto updates in the play store and stop any updates that have already tried to start.
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How did you get the playstore on your hdx?
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How did you get the playstore on your hdx?
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His HDX is rooted, so after installing SafeStrap (a recovery program), he flashed the gapps.
I would do anything to get rid of these error messages. Does rooting accomplish this? I am hesitant to root because all I really want is google apps working flawlessly and I don't want to risk the root process (scared of losing warranty and bricking).
Right now you can't get both Amazon and Google working together. People are working on that.
If you want Google, you have to rid all of Amazon stuff (or enough of it so it doesn't interfere w/ Google stuff).
Remember, you can always load up factory image, which would essentially unroot your device, and voila, good for returns.
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Right now you can't get both Amazon and Google working together. People are working on that.
If you want Google, you have to rid all of Amazon stuff (or enough of it so it doesn't interfere w/ Google stuff).
Remember, you can always load up factory image, which would essentially unroot your device, and voila, good for returns.
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I'm not rooted. I just got my HDX, so I don't won't to screw it up straight out of the box by doing something wrong with rooting. I guess I'll just wait for someone to say something that doesn't include rooting.