The USB port cover is a bit flimsy.
Maybe even the port itself.
I don't trust the daily charge process on those components.
I think they'll fail (or at least lose the IP58 capability) sooner or later.
Is there a way to use the cradle charge port without the actual ultra-expensive cradle?
I am ready to follow DIY instructions.
NLS said:
The USB port cover is a bit flimsy.
Maybe even the port itself.
I don't trust the daily charge process on those components.
I think they'll fail (or at least lose the IP58 capability) sooner or later.
Is there a way to use the cradle charge port without the actual ultra-expensive cradle?
I am ready to follow DIY instructions.
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Try this thread. Plenty of options, including a magnetic DIY charger.
I was really hoping someone could teardown an official SGP-DS5 cradle for Sony XTZ to look for the magnetic cable if it's the same as the XZ or XZU's EC21 magnetic cable. If they are the same then I suppose charging with a generic EC21 would be possible!
XTZ cradle is not magnetic. Just spring-loaded contacts.
Not magnetic? That's sad, really.
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Hi all!
So I just got the DK30 and I like it!
No problem at all docking and charging but I took it to work, connected to the computer USB and it is not charging. I thought it would charge, slowly but charge..but no go.
So I guess I will be bringing a surge protector extension tomorrow to connect the ac adapter to the DK30.
My other question is USB cables. I want to get a longer cable so that when I am gaming I can still charge via the usb port (since holding the magnetic one in place will not be possible).
But from experience, another thicker cable I got, only charges at 400-500mAh at best which is not enough when gaming.
Anyone has found one that works like the original?
Thanks!
shaolin95 said:
Hi all!
So I just got the DK30 and I like it!
No problem at all docking and charging but I took it to work, connected to the computer USB and it is not charging. I thought it would charge, slowly but charge..but no go.
So I guess I will be bringing a surge protector extension tomorrow to connect the ac adapter to the DK30.
My other question is USB cables. I want to get a longer cable so that when I am gaming I can still charge via the usb port (since holding the magnetic one in place will not be possible).
But from experience, another thicker cable I got, only charges at 400-500mAh at best which is not enough when gaming.
Anyone has found one that works like the original?
Thanks!
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No the dock wont charge off USB. Its stipulated in the manual.
USB out are 5v... but most are only 500mAh so the charge will not register on a docking device
Any cable thats magnetically sealed so to reduce power loss, will work. Depends on the manufacture process. A cheaper cable probably wont be very effective. Branded cables are usually better, but its hit and miss. I have a Samsung 2m cable that came free with an older digital camera, and it still works very well. But not sure on a link or anything to provide you with to buy one.
I am getting a good cable now , 6', it helps me when gaming although I realized I can for the most part game with the dock station attached and it does not fall lol..not very comfy for some games but works.
for those who have it and used it for long time..
1) is it charging faster/slower/same than regularly charging? (with the same charger of course)
2) is it actually comfortable? after trying it, do you actually use it daily and enjoy or its a gimmick only and you went back to the regular cable?
3) is it causing any damages? bugs? weird stuffs?
I'm Z owner (it doesn't compatible with magnets) and I'm considering to upgrade to z2/3/3c with mainly reason of the magnetic charging..
Some experience sharing would really help me out here.. YouTube is only for unboxing and showing it but no real tips from experienced users..
Thanks.
Been using magnetic chargers for bout half a year. So far:
1) The charging time is pretty much the same. I've been using the cheap chinese ones and haven't noticed a significant increase in the time it takes.
2) If you're willing to buy an expensive cable, I suppose the magnet would be stronger, but in my one dollar case it disconnects pretty easily. So it's not really comfortable when you have to keep the phone on a flat surface while charging. But people use magnetic cables to prevent the wear and tear of the flaps, and so do I.
3) No bugs, it's just a charger. The only thing that can go wrong is having your battery fried if you plug the cable incorrectly
1) same speed which actually depends more on used charger than the cable type
2) for charging I use only magnetic cable or cradle. In fact I used USB cable for maybe 2 days only and will never return back
3) lockscreen rotates according to the gravity sensor, otherwise no difference or issue
It's worth the investment. Really helps to protect the flaps and save time opening them
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Thank you all!
Just make sure you never attach the cable inverted, otherwise it will fry not only the battery, but the whole motherboard. and also, make sure that nobody tries to charge it but you, as most people are careless and might attach it the wrong way. I have heard some dreadful stories about inverting the magnetic cable, this is a major design flaw from Sony, but again, all of those cables are fake and there is no genuine one from Sony, but only the dock, I don't know whether the phone can be put the wrong way in the dock as well. I have bought one for 9$ and working great, except the magnet isn't strong enough and it gets detached very easily. Good luck
Make sure u bought a high quality/expensive magnetic charger or u will regret, just like me. Ive using the local/cheap magnetic charger, and im really pissed off, the led charging keep blinking even if an ant pass through. This is what im using now, and i recommended for u too. http://www.amazon.com/Magnector-Improved-Performance-Magnetic-Charging/dp/B00Q3GK3YI
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...........this is a major design flaw from Sony, but again, all of those cables are fake and there is no genuine one from Sony, but only the dock, I don't know whether the phone can be put the wrong way in the dock as well.
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actually it's not!
If you take a really close look you see that one of the pin's has a bigger plastic encasing. So it "shouldn't" be possible to connect the magnetic charger the wrong way.
And about the Dock... who would try to put the phone into the dock with the display facing the wall? xD well okay... yeah... if it's dark and you're drunk... i can totally see me doing this....
BTT: i can reccomend this Magnector cables! i have one myself, after i bough 3 in China this is the first one working correctly, aka charging fast enough.
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actually it's not!
If you take a really close look you see that one of the pin's has a bigger plastic encasing. So it "shouldn't" be possible to connect the magnetic charger the wrong way.
And about the Dock... who would try to put the phone into the dock with the display facing the wall? xD well okay... yeah... if it's dark and you're drunk... i can totally see me doing this....
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Just google for Z ultra magnetic charger options and you will see how many motherboard got fried from inverted mag charger. I know that there are to pols one is a bit larger but still, the connector can enter the wrong way, at least some connector.
Hi, i bought the dk36 dock with magnetic charger on amazon, cheaper than the official sony shop, it charges in the same time. A friend told me that the magnetic cables are very bad, they are very cheap but can make the phone burn because of the low quality as you say.
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Hi, i bought the dk36 dock with magnetic charger on amazon, cheaper than the official sony shop, it charges in the same time. A friend told me that the magnetic cables are very bad, they are very cheap but can make the phone burn because of the low quality as you say.
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Your friend doesn't know anything about electronics. Do you even know how the magnetic charging works? The only bad thing that can happen from chinese docks is slow charging. I have a DIY magnetic cable and it works great in terms of speed(it had a really weak magnet and a dock came with my Z2, so I don't use it anymore). Reverse polarity is unlikely to happen-most mag connectors are keyed. But anyways, be careful with the orientation.
Hello,
because of having a magnetic charging issue (blinking led, no charging), I consider replacing the Charger Magnetic Connector of my SGP521.
http://www.originalpartsmobile.com/buscar-por-modelo/sony-4/sony-xperia-tablet-z2-sgp511-sgp512-sgp521-sgp541/conector-carga-magnetico-sony-tablet-z2-sgp511-sgp512-sgp521-sgp541-tablet-z3-compact-negro
Is there anyone, which already replaced this part by himself? I wondering, why this part should be the faulty piece, because it is nothing more than plastic.
Also there is the connector flex cable available.
http://www.originalpartsmobile.com/buscar-por-modelo/sony-4/sony-xperia-tablet-z2-sgp511-sgp512-sgp521-sgp541/flex-carga-magnetica-sony-tablet-z2-sgp521-sgp541
What do you mean, is there a chance of replacing this parts to get the magnetic charging working again. And if yes, how to do that?
Thank you
I usually go here but it seems they're a little thin on z2 tutorials. May want to take a look at the original z tablet, shouldn't be too hard but you'll void any existing warranty and probably compromise the waterproofing.
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Sony_XPERIA_Tablet_Z
Hello,
One day my tab stopped charging from the magnetic cable.
Whenever i plug-in, i get a blinking light and the battery light on status-bar goes on and off, ultimately not charging. The cable still charges my Z1.
Factory reset didn't help either.
Sometimes it hapens to me too.
My conclusion is that it is a matter of bad contact between tablet and the magnetic connector.
Cleaned up the connector with alcohol. Thankfully it's still under warranty.
Sony RMA the device and gave me a new one. Old one was 16gb , this one is 32gb. Win - win
The problem returns with the new device! Took it around 2 weeks but this tab stopped charging aswell, over the magnetic interface.
Wth is going on.
I never had this issue with the original Sony charging cradle, but I noticed it when charging via cable using a smartphone charger. If the charger does not have at least 250 mA, it goes on and off. Is your magnetic charger an original Sony device?
Well after two weeks the issue reappeared. Dont know if the power is sufficient or not, but then how come it worked with original device AND replacement device.
I know this forum is probably dead a long time ago (years?), but ill take a shot and ask a supplementary question.
The Sony service denies fixing my tablet, citing the cause of problem the non-Sony magnetic cable as the fault.
Ive been using the magnetic cable on my Z1 phone for almost 2 years now with no issues. I dont understand how the cable can **** up the Tablet.
Are they legally valid not to repair my device free of charge (its within the warranty period) ?
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I know this forum is probably dead a long time ago (years?), but ill take a shot and ask a supplementary question.
The Sony service denies fixing my tablet, citing the cause of problem the non-Sony magnetic cable as the fault.
Ive been using the magnetic cable on my Z1 phone for almost 2 years now with no issues. I dont understand how the cable can **** up the Tablet.
Are they legally valid not to repair my device free of charge (its within the warranty period) ?
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I wouldn't have told them I was using a different cable, but yeah they can deny service. Technically, they have to prove that your aftermarket device loosened the port, but I'm sure they've tested it at this point since so many people had the same issue. On the other hand, this also compromises the waterproof ratings.
The issue is the port gets hot and the adhesive weakens. Aftermarket magnetic docks have stronger magnets that yank the charging port right out. Honestly it's a stupid design defect and there should have been more than adhesive, you can try that task with customer service.
You can remove the magnetic charging port and replace the small adhesive strip with a suitable thin high temp doublestick adhesive. I've considered epoxy as well but haven't pulled the trigger. In the mean time, know that the magnet unseats the port on the device and it must be pushed back in.
Hi, my Tab never got a loosed port. When i connect it, it starts blinking red, not charging.
When i drove there to pick up my un-repaired tablet back, along with the cable i gave them, they delivered the cable without a magnet.
After a long verbal fight, denying that the cable was ever send to them in its nominal form (with the magnet), they finally gave in and gave me an official Sony cable (i know , too late, eh?)/.
Truth be told, the Sony magnetic cable is SLIGHTLY different.
For example, i can charge my Z1 phone while wearing a silicon sleeve-case with the an-official magnetic cable, but with the Sony one, there is no clearance.
Also, a very important difference is, the old magnetic cable would convey the charge from any power source (like any type of Ambers charger, for example the usb port, or a less strong (less Ambers) sony charger.
The official magnetic cable, work almost only with the Z2 tablet charger. For example, it wont charge my Z1 over the USB PC port like the old one did.
Can anyone exaplin this, since i just cant see any extra type of filter or dunnowhat present on cable.
As the Huawei mate 10 pro has no wireless charging i've been looking for qi recievers for USB-C. Plenty of them. But i still haven't found what i am looking for(nice title for a song). One time i want wireless charging the other time i want charging by cable. Of course i can pull out the plug of the receiver but after a while this will definitely be broken and is also not handy when carrying the phone in the pocket. What i am looking for is a qi receiver wich is connected to the USB C port but also have an entrance for an USB -C Cable. Anyone knows if this exists?
I was once looking for a iPhone solution that didn't involved a thick case, and I came with the answer that a simple pass-through is not possible, some protetiction and routing circuit is needed...
So maybe aim for a case? But I also couldn't find anything.
So....
hey there, this is exactly what I am too looking for a qi coil that can be neatly tucked between the phone and the eternal protective case and has a usb c port which is also female so it can take in the usb charging without having to take anything apart, I imagine it to be not to difficult of a think if one had the parts to just modify something in existence. eg usb c and usb -c (female). If anyone finds anything, drop a shout!