I am a developer from India and i'm looking to start selling a new app in the coming months. But my doubt lies with this whole sales tax (or VAT or whatever) collecting problem.
The official doc containing these policies can be found here : https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/138000?hl=en
My question is : Do I need to keep aside a certain amount of our sales earnings as tax (based on the tax rate in that country)? If so how do I pay it back to the tax authorities in those countries.
One more doubt was regarding the registration of our app dev company in India. Do I really need to register my company in order to SELL apps on Play store? Will it interfere with any of the tax policies if I don't register my company here?
I would prefer to implement In-app purchases rather than actually sell the app. How will the above given tax policy affect my tax collection then?
Thanks a Lot
Gautam Padirooted said:
I am a developer from India and i'm looking to start selling a new app in the coming months. But my doubt lies with this whole sales tax (or VAT or whatever) collecting problem.
The official doc containing these policies can be found here : https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/138000?hl=en
My question is : Do I need to keep aside a certain amount of our sales earnings as tax (based on the tax rate in that country)? If so how do I pay it back to the tax authorities in those countries.
One more doubt was regarding the registration of our app dev company in India. Do I really need to register my company in order to SELL apps on Play store? Will it interfere with any of the tax policies if I don't register my company here?
I would prefer to implement In-app purchases rather than actually sell the app. How will the above given tax policy affect my tax collection then?
Thanks a Lot
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There is a company called Lotaris that would takes away the risk and administrative burden by becoming the Merchant of Record and tracking, administering and remitting the taxes to all the relevant tax authorities on your behalf. I'm not affiliated with them and I do not use their services so I cannot help you much here. But if you are interested, you can read the detail here: www.lotaris.com/android and scroll down to the "Google Play Store Tax Service" section.
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But I believe there should there is a threshold for VAT and GST before you have to collect and pay the tax so perhaps if your IAP volume is still low you should not worry about it yet? Please correct me if i'm wrong. I'm also wondering what the other developer here do about those taxes.
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There is a company called Lotaris that would takes away the risk and administrative burden by becoming the Merchant of Record and tracking, administering and remitting the taxes to all the relevant tax authorities on your behalf. I'm not affiliated with them and I do not use their services so I cannot help you much here. But if you are interested, you can read the detail here: www.lotaris.com/android and scroll down to the "Google Play Store Tax Service" section.
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But I believe there should there is a threshold for VAT and GST before you have to collect and pay the tax so perhaps if your IAP volume is still low you should not worry about it yet? Please correct me if i'm wrong. I'm also wondering what the other developer here do about those taxes.
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Thanks a lot.
I will definitely inbox you or something when i find a solution for this.
You don't need to deduct sales tax for foreign countries unless your country has a treaty with the buyer's company. In practice, this means that any EU merchant needs to withhold sales tax for any buyer in the EU, or in the US, for certain buyers in the US (depends on state).
For me (EU based), this means everyone has 21% (EU) or 0% sales tax rate. I don't think this applies to India at all, so except for the domestic buyers, you don't charge any sales tax.
Disclaimer: call your tax department for the final answer.
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You don't need to deduct sales tax for foreign countries unless your country has a treaty with the buyer's company. In practice, this means that any EU merchant needs to withhold sales tax for any buyer in the EU, or in the US, for certain buyers in the US (depends on state).
For me (EU based), this means everyone has 21% (EU) or 0% sales tax rate. I don't think this applies to India at all, so except for the domestic buyers, you don't charge any sales tax.
Disclaimer: call your tax department for the final answer.
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Do you have to create invoices/bills for your tax authorities? If you do, do you issue them to Google or to the individual end users?
Here we just report the revenue totals to the tax authorities, but it's up to us to prove the numbers are correct. For that, we have the detailed purchase log from wallet, it includes a separate column for tax, and per purchase, an unique id.
That's good enough for our accountant. It's not like we're a restaurant where you can under report to evade tax, Google pays out to the cent exact.
Next year the situation is going to change though, direct to consumer will be charged at the local tax rate. With a ton of countries in EU, Google decided to handle VAT themselves and issue payments with tax withheld, so all Google Play revenue will be taxed at 0% effectively.
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Next year the situation is going to change though, direct to consumer will be charged at the local tax rate. With a ton of countries in EU, Google decided to handle VAT themselves and issue payments with tax withheld, so all Google Play revenue will be taxed at 0% effectively.
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I have just noticed tax deductions in my Play/Wallet merchant account.
My income is thus dropping about 20%. This sucks !
Wrote a post explaining in the general forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/dammit-google-dammit-eu-vat-policies-t3003275
What do you all think ?
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a brand new skinomi skin protector is up on ebay starting at $1, buy it now at $25 - comes with some extras too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120717153709
buy it now at $25 + $10 shipping ?!?
btw, I hope you know that the life warranty you advertise on your listing IS NOT TRANSFERABLE to whomever buys the skin from you.
aasoror said:
buy it now at $25 + $10 shipping ?!?
btw, I hope you know that the life warranty you advertise on your listing IS NOT TRANSFERABLE to whomever buys the skin from you.
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i believe the warranty is transferable.
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i believe the warranty is transferable.
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I believe you believe wrong.
The only reason they ask you to include the original receipt/invoice is to verify that he who has made the order is the same one requesting the replacement.
Unless you have verified otherwise with them, this was the last info I was told when I inquired about the lifetime warranty transferability.
Step 1: Replacement form
Fill out the product replacement form.
Step 2: Request your replacement
Fax the product replacment form along with a copy of the invoice/receipt containing your Skinomi product purchase to (909) 236-5055.
Step 3: Shipping your replacement
Your replacement Techskin is free of charge. A shipping and handling fee will apply for all replacements.
Step 4: Send back the original
Send back your original TechSkin along with the order invoice/registration number once you receive the replacement. If you do not send back the original, that item will be void of the Liftetime Replacement Guarantee and be disqualified for any future replacements. Please send your original TechSkin and order invoice/registration number to:
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$10 shipping????? I live in Queens, can I pick it up from you?
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$10 shipping????? I live in Queens, can I pick it up from you?
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That is because i only ship via UPS. USPS is an unconstitutional government tax funded entity and frankly delivers terrible service. Sure they are cheaper - but not when you take your tax return into account. You also wouldnt get a tracking number with USPS.
Minimum shipping on UPS ground is $11 - throw in an envelope + taxes and its actually $12. If you bid $10 on the auction and you end up paying $20, well that's a fair price for a $30 product (throwing in extras too). I guarantee if you win I'll keep the money (less pay pal fees) and u can pick it up from me so that there is no hassle with delivery. if you lose, no skin off your back.
HMmmm
So you complain that you've already paid taxes to subsidize USPS, so you don't use the cheaper service you already helped fund and instead use the service thats twice as expensive?
Also, you can fedex envelopes for pretty cheap. 5 bucks will move it around the country. I fedex things for work all the time. I usps things a lot too.
Also, the usps really doesn't get all that much money from the government.
The USPS does get some taxpayer support. Around $96 million is budgeted annually by Congress for the "Postal Service Fund." These funds are used to compensate USPS for postage-free mailing for all legally blind persons and for mail-in election ballots sent from US citizens living overseas. A portion of the funds also pays USPS for providing address information to state and local child support enforcement agencies.
Under federal law, only the Postal Service can handle or charge postage for handling letters. Despite this virtual monopoly worth some $45 billion a year, the law does not require that the Postal Service make a profit -- only break even. Still, the US Postal Service has averaged a profit of over $1 billion per year in each of the last five years. Yet, Postal Service officials argue that they must continue to raise postage at regular intervals in order make up for the increased use of email.
So your excuse for charging 10$ to ship a small plastic tube doesn't really hold water.
Wow, I can tell you have never listed on eBay before thats for sure. Sorry I don't mean to be insulting.
My question to you, how are people going to find said skin if you don't actually put in the product title that it fits the gtab?
You do know skinomi makes skins for products other then the Viewsonic gTablet right?
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I guarantee if you win I'll keep the money (less pay pal fees) and u can pick it up from me so that there is no hassle with delivery. if you lose, no skin off your back.
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The reason he want to pick up is he needs to save the delivery money and not the delivery hassle.
I am not sure if it was clear whether or not you are offering free local pickup, but if you do I would suggest adding it to your shipping methods and to the listing itself, this should certainly make your auction more appealing for many.
I also second the poster above me who suggested revising the title to include "gtab"
Best of luck,
its my second listing on ebay
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So you complain that you've already paid taxes to subsidize USPS, so you don't use the cheaper service you already helped fund and instead use the service thats twice as expensive?
Also, you can fedex envelopes for pretty cheap. 5 bucks will move it around the country. I fedex things for work all the time. I usps things a lot too.
Also, the usps really doesn't get all that much money from the government.
The USPS does get some taxpayer support. Around $96 million is budgeted annually by Congress for the "Postal Service Fund." These funds are used to compensate USPS for postage-free mailing for all legally blind persons and for mail-in election ballots sent from US citizens living overseas. A portion of the funds also pays USPS for providing address information to state and local child support enforcement agencies.
Under federal law, only the Postal Service can handle or charge postage for handling letters. Despite this virtual monopoly worth some $45 billion a year, the law does not require that the Postal Service make a profit -- only break even. Still, the US Postal Service has averaged a profit of over $1 billion per year in each of the last five years. Yet, Postal Service officials argue that they must continue to raise postage at regular intervals in order make up for the increased use of email.
So your excuse for charging 10$ to ship a small plastic tube doesn't really hold water.
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USPS is not a constitutional entity and I try my best to avoid supporting it in anyway.
i think it is will be goo for my tablet
well i live abroad the google play store launch countries and i did research if i can get it for a shop online for a sensible price ,to my dissapointment i found some redicilus sky high prices from uk online shops, for example the nexus 10 16gb was set at the price of 382gbp including vat, excluding shipping fees ,while i dont mind to pay a little more than 319gbp i found their pricing unreasonable i mean they are wholesale suppliers and can get it for a lot cheaper than 319 why so much profit?
i wish i had someone to uk to order it from my behalf but as it does seem i must wait for a long time...
382.00 GBP = 611.123 USD. You're right, that's quite a big hike.
Here in Australia there is a $70 premium on the unit itself plus shipping, so in the end it will probably cost me $100 MORE to order the tablet directly from Google (and the AUD is still above the USB). I really really hate regional pricing, it's unfortunate that Google has become one of the companies to do it. Hopefully they get questioned about it (The government is currently investigating the "Australia tax" that we get for hardware and software).
A new for AT&T to earn more money??
Administrative Fee (Consumer and Individual Responsibility User (IRU) lines only)
The Administrative Fee helps defray certain expenses AT&T incurs, including but not limited to: (a) charges AT&T or its agents pay to interconnect with other carriers to deliver calls from AT&T customers to their customers; and (b) charges associated with cell site rents and maintenance.
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What a B.S.! Can't stand these communication companies and the lack of options in this country.
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A new for AT&T to earn more money??
What a B.S.! Can't stand these communication companies and the lack of options in this country.
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The rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer. Its ridiculous what this government let these corporations get away with. Of course at the working man's expense.
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lildoggs said:
The rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer. Its ridiculous what this government let these corporations get away with. Of course at the working man's expense.
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They don't make enough money.... they justify by letting us pay only $200 for a $700 phone. Tha'ts how they get away with it... we can all go to the European way and just buy the phones up front and save a little on the service. But they will still make tons of money of us. $37 stock price for today 11%+ rise year to date... They obviously need more and more :crying:
I called AT&T yesterday to ***** about it, I asked the CSR "What 'new' expenses does AT&T have now that they didn't have last month?". Sure enough he started reading to me the same thing as I posted above. I said "don't read this to me, I can read it myself. I want to know what NEW EXPENSES do you have..."
He said "we don't have that info". I said "well, HQ should give you the answers".
I got so pissed at him that he ended up giving me a credit of the 4 lines times this bull**** fee for the next year ($30). Sure, I was happy and appreciative of his attempt to make a customer happy. Nevertheless, can't wait for my contract to expire to get the hell out. That's why I don't take 'free/discounted' phones from AT&T. Only international versions, nothing with AT&T logo on it. I will not be tied in contracts with big corporations any more.
Sure, it's much more difficult now to go somewhere else when Straight Talk no longer have AT&T sim cards, but we'll see.
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That's why I don't take 'free/discounted' phones from AT&T. Only international versions, nothing with AT&T logo on it. I will not be tied in contracts with big corporations any more.
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Could not agree more, well said.
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Quick & Easy BBB, FTC, FCC links
Some momentum is growing at forums.att.com to have a mass of customers report to the BBB, FTC, and FCC, so I am posting easy links here, in case others wish to do so as well.
It's really quick and easy to make your voice heard .
BBB: www.bbb.org/atlanta/business-reviews/telephone-companies/atandt-in-atlanta-ga-7935/file-a-complaint
FTC: https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
FCC: http://www.fcc.gov/complaints
You can base your info on the following but you will have to edit it to fit in the web forms:
"AT&T has raised the price on every wireless line in service by $.61 a month by adding a new fee to every bill, which they explain as follows:
"MOBILITY ADMINISTRATIVE FEE" Effective May 1, 2013, the Administrative Fee will be $0.61 per line per month. The Administrative Fee helps defray certain expenses AT&T incurs, including but not limited to: (a) charges AT&T or its agents pay to interconnect with other carriers to deliver calls from AT&T customers to their customers; and (b) charges associated with cell site rents and maintenance."
This is a baloney way of saying "price increase", and is a blatant violation of basic contract law which does not allow the changing of terms after the beginning of a bilateral agreement. The vast majority of ATT customers have 2-year contract agreements which prevent their switching carriers without paying a huge penalty clause.
The ATT Wireless Agreement reads: "If we increase the price of any of the services to which you subscribe, beyond the limits set forth in your customer service summary... you may terminate this agreement without paying an early termination fee or returning or paying for any promotional items."
CTIA Consumer Code reads: "Carriers will not modify the material terms of their subscribers' contracts in a manner that is materially adverse to subscribers without providing a reasonable advance notice of a proposed modification and allowing subscribers a time period of not less than 14 days to cancel their contracts with no early termination fee."
ATT claims that the price for the service remains the same and are only adding a "fee".
What's from stopping AT&T from adding an additional $50/month fee and not letting customers out of their contract?
$.61 doesn't sound like much, but some people have multiple lines. In addition, multiplied by 115.78 million customers, AT&T makes an extra $847 million a year from this dishonest price hike.
As it is not any kind of tax or government mandated charge, the new fee should be included in the basic price displayed in advertising and informational material. The new fee should only be charged on new contracts beginning after the increase, and existing contract customers must be allowed to either reject the price hike or be allowed to terminate their service without penalty, as the contract has already been breached by the carrier."
Coincidentally I just cancelled one of my add-on packages with Comcast cable and they also tried to charge a $2.xx administrative fee. Although the CSR waived it as a 'one time courtesy,' seeing the same issue here highlights what appears to be a growing trend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyDbfCbQnH8
harryspar said:
Some momentum is growing at forums.att.com to have a mass of customers report to the BBB, FTC, and FCC, so I am posting easy links here, in case others wish to do so as well.
It's really quick and easy to make your voice heard .
BBB: www.bbb.org/atlanta/business-reviews/telephone-companies/atandt-in-atlanta-ga-7935/file-a-complaint
FTC: https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
FCC: http://www.fcc.gov/complaints
You can base your info on the following but you will have to edit it to fit in the web forms:
"AT&T has raised the price on every wireless line in service by $.61 a month by adding a new fee to every bill, which they explain as follows:
"MOBILITY ADMINISTRATIVE FEE" Effective May 1, 2013, the Administrative Fee will be $0.61 per line per month. The Administrative Fee helps defray certain expenses AT&T incurs, including but not limited to: (a) charges AT&T or its agents pay to interconnect with other carriers to deliver calls from AT&T customers to their customers; and (b) charges associated with cell site rents and maintenance."
This is a baloney way of saying "price increase", and is a blatant violation of basic contract law which does not allow the changing of terms after the beginning of a bilateral agreement. The vast majority of ATT customers have 2-year contract agreements which prevent their switching carriers without paying a huge penalty clause.
The ATT Wireless Agreement reads: "If we increase the price of any of the services to which you subscribe, beyond the limits set forth in your customer service summary... you may terminate this agreement without paying an early termination fee or returning or paying for any promotional items."
CTIA Consumer Code reads: "Carriers will not modify the material terms of their subscribers' contracts in a manner that is materially adverse to subscribers without providing a reasonable advance notice of a proposed modification and allowing subscribers a time period of not less than 14 days to cancel their contracts with no early termination fee."
ATT claims that the price for the service remains the same and are only adding a "fee".
What's from stopping AT&T from adding an additional $50/month fee and not letting customers out of their contract?
$.61 doesn't sound like much, but some people have multiple lines. In addition, multiplied by 115.78 million customers, AT&T makes an extra $847 million a year from this dishonest price hike.
As it is not any kind of tax or government mandated charge, the new fee should be included in the basic price displayed in advertising and informational material. The new fee should only be charged on new contracts beginning after the increase, and existing contract customers must be allowed to either reject the price hike or be allowed to terminate their service without penalty, as the contract has already been breached by the carrier."
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Complaints filed.
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Complaints filed.
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You da man. How long did it take, a few minutes, right? We need more people to act.
Thanks for the heads up, I didn't even notice it. I filed a complaint with the FTC and will look into switching when my contract ends next month
Does this fee count as a material change in the contract? I'm guessing not. Sneaky
edit: I now read harryspar's post completely. When Sprint did this, many people were able to cancel and not pay an ETF, but I'm guessing AT&T will fight this but some people might be able to get away with it.
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When Sprint did this, many people were able to cancel and not pay an ETF, but I'm guessing AT&T will fight this but some people might be able to get away with it.
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Some people have been successful, see thread on fawallet.com: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1270724/
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You da man. How long did it take, a few minutes, right? We need more people to act.
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Yup. few minutes and the bastards "responded" to the BBB one with the usual B.S., to which I responded with (basically) "Cut the B.S.". Nothing will change until everyone files a complaint.
I went through a similar experience with Sprint last year. They claimed it was not a "material change" as another poster eluded to and when I digged very deep in my contract - there was a clause which allowed them to add up to $2.00 per month in "fees" without being considered "material" changes...
I think it depends on the rep you get, some people I know used the fee to get out of their contracts and some it did not work for. I was able to get the fee waived (it was only 20 cents per month or so that they were adding this time) but I didn't feel like fighting to get any further.
AT&T has introduced a new "Mobility Administrative Fee" to its postpaid contracts. The $0.61 monthly fee ($7.32 per year) is being categorized "below the line" alongside tax and fees as an administrative surcharge. The fee came into effect on May 1st, and applies to all consumer contracts as well as "IRU" business contracts (business accounts where the user pays the bill).
It's a small charge for the individual consumers, but given that AT&T's postpaid subscriber base stands at over 70 million, the move will net AT&T hundreds of millions of dollars — somewhere around half a billion dollars, in fact. That's a lot of extra revenue from one little charge.
AT&T tells us that the administrative fee will "help cover certain expenses, such as interconnection and cell site rents and maintenance." It also added that the charge is "consistent with similar fees charged by other carriers." While it's true that both Verizon and Sprint actually have higher administrative line charges — T-Mobile bundles any administrative fees in with regulatory charges, so it's difficult to tell — that's not likely to be much consolation for AT&T customers
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/23/4358926/att-mobility-administrative-fee
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AT&T has introduced a new "Mobility Administrative Fee" to its postpaid contracts. The $0.61 monthly fee ($7.32 per year) is being categorized "below the line" alongside tax and fees as an administrative surcharge. The fee came into effect on May 1st, and applies to all consumer contracts as well as "IRU" business contracts (business accounts where the user pays the bill).
It's a small charge for the individual consumers, but given that AT&T's postpaid subscriber base stands at over 70 million, the move will net AT&T hundreds of millions of dollars — somewhere around half a billion dollars, in fact. That's a lot of extra revenue from one little charge.
AT&T tells us that the administrative fee will "help cover certain expenses, such as interconnection and cell site rents and maintenance." It also added that the charge is "consistent with similar fees charged by other carriers." While it's true that both Verizon and Sprint actually have higher administrative line charges — T-Mobile bundles any administrative fees in with regulatory charges, so it's difficult to tell — that's not likely to be much consolation for AT&T customers
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/23/4358926/att-mobility-administrative-fee
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can we use this to break a contract without paying ETF? I'm seeing yes and no answers on that question all over the internets
gunnyman said:
can we use this to break a contract without paying ETF? I'm seeing yes and no answers on that question all over the internets
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When I had VZW's service, they did something very similar. Technically, there's a clause in your wireless contract that says if the carrier makes changes to your contract that you don't agree with AND are materially adverse(this is a key phrase), you're able to break the contract with no penalty. If you don't challenge this change within a certain time farm... say 30 days, your silence is consent to the change. However, what VZW did to stop people from being able to use the material adverse clause to break the contract was to place a reoccurring discount on the account for the remaining duration of the contract thus bringing it back into compliance with the terms you originally signed. Likely, AT&T will do the same thing.
EDIT: Here's the section I'm talking about. Source, particularly section 1.3.
AT&T said:
We may change any terms, conditions, rates, fees, expenses, or charges regarding your Services at any time. We will provide you with notice of material changes (other than changes to governmental fees, proportional charges for governmental mandates, roaming rates or administrative charges) either in your monthly bill or separately. You understand and agree that State and Federal Universal Service Fees and other governmentally imposed fees, whether or not assessed directly upon you, may be increased based upon the government's or our calculations.
IF WE INCREASE THE PRICE OF ANY OF THE SERVICES TO WHICH YOU SUBSCRIBE, BEYOND THE LIMITS SET FORTH IN YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE SUMMARY, OR IF WE MATERIALLY DECREASE THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IN WHICH YOUR AIRTIME RATE APPLIES (OTHER THAN A TEMPORARY DECREASE FOR REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE), WE’LL DISCLOSE THE CHANGE AT LEAST ONE BILLING CYCLE IN ADVANCE (EITHER THROUGH A NOTICE WITH YOUR BILL, A TEXT MESSAGE TO YOUR DEVICE, OR OTHERWISE), AND YOU MAY TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT WITHOUT PAYING AN EARLY TERMINATION FEE OR RETURNING OR PAYING FOR ANY PROMOTIONAL ITEMS, PROVIDED YOUR NOTICE OF TERMINATION IS DELIVERED TO US WITHIN THIRTY (30) DAYS AFTER THE FIRST BILL REFLECTING THE CHANGE.
If you lose your eligibility for a particular rate plan, we may change your rate plan to one for which you qualify.
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can we use this to break a contract without paying ETF? I'm seeing yes and no answers on that question all over the internets
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this is how i got out of my sprint contract ..... but im not sure im reading the same thing
Break a contract for an additional $0.65 a month? I'm pretty sure AT&T won't let this happen.
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It's breaking a contract because they changed the terms without my consent. The amount is irrelevant.
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It's breaking a contract because they changed the terms without my consent. The amount is irrelevant.
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Good luck
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I'm just looking for information here.
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I'm just looking for information here.
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From what I gather this is not consider a rate change to your plan. It is an added tax which will not be considered a rate change so there for they won't let you out the contract.
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shook187 said:
From what I gather this is not consider a rate change to your plan. It is an added tax which will not be considered a rate change so there for they won't let you out the contract.
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Att can't "tax" you. You mean it's a new service charge.
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shook187 said:
From what I gather this is not consider a rate change to your plan. It is an added tax which will not be considered a rate change so there for they won't let you out the contract.
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its not a tax it's a FEE and YES you can get out of your contract this is EXACTLY how i got out of my contact with sprint 5 line's no ETF canceled since they was being sneaky and added a few extra fee's like this
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its not a tax it's a FEE and YES you can get out of your contract this is EXACTLY how i got out of my contact with sprint 5 line's no ETF canceled since they was being sneaky and added a few extra fee's like this
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Same. I got out of my Sprint contact over what would have amounted to like $1.50 extra per year
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estxxas said:
Same. I got out of my Sprint contact over what would have amounted to like $1.50 extra per year
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Same here...
This Messages Was Shot From A Galaxy S4!
Just spoke with ATT rep. When I asked to release me from the contract because of the fee increase, she responded with the following - since fee is not a service change, she cannot waive the ETF.
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Just spoke with ATT rep. When I asked to release me from the contract because of the fee increase, she responded with the following - since fee is not a service change, she cannot waive the ETF.
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Who said you needed a service change to void the contract? You signed a contract for x price. they've changed that price, which according to the others here, is enough to walk away.
And as far as ATT Reps are concerned, you can call 10 times and get 10 different answers.
@CheesyNutz What is the exact name of the additional fee? Is it the Mobility Administrative fee in the op, is that how it shows on the bill?
I just had a chat sessiom with them and they kept saying other carriers have a similar fee.
My response was that I was a sprint customer when they added this fee abd they allowed customer's to terminate they're contract and have their etf waived.
Then they kept saying att is a difference carrier
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dk152 said:
Just spoke with ATT rep. When I asked to release me from the contract because of the fee increase, she responded with the following - since fee is not a service change, she cannot waive the ETF.
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Do the same thing in store, it's easy to tell someone no on the phone.. Totally different in person when you walk in holding a copy of the highlighted text on the contract.
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I just had a chat sessiom with them and they kept saying other carriers have a similar fee.
My response was that I was a sprint customer when they added this fee abd they allowed customer's to terminate they're contract and have their etf waived.
Then they kept saying att is a difference carrier
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I'd tell them that it doesn't matter what "other" carriers have. You dont have a contract with "other" carriers.. You didnt have the fee when i signed my contract. Then quote from the contract.
IF WE INCREASE THE PRICE OF ANY OF THE SERVICES TO WHICH YOU SUBSCRIBE, BEYOND THE LIMITS SET FORTH IN YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE SUMMARY, OR IF WE MATERIALLY DECREASE THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IN WHICH YOUR AIRTIME RATE APPLIES (OTHER THAN A TEMPORARY DECREASE FOR REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE), WE’LL DISCLOSE THE CHANGE AT LEAST ONE BILLING CYCLE IN ADVANCE (EITHER THROUGH A NOTICE WITH YOUR BILL, A TEXT MESSAGE TO YOUR DEVICE, OR OTHERWISE), AND YOU MAY TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT WITHOUT PAYING AN EARLY TERMINATION FEE OR RETURNING OR PAYING FOR ANY PROMOTIONAL ITEMS, PROVIDED YOUR NOTICE OF TERMINATION IS DELIVERED TO US WITHIN THIRTY (30) DAYS AFTER THE FIRST BILL REFLECTING THE CHANGE.
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nugzo said:
I'd tell them that it doesn't matter what "other" carriers have. You dont have a contract with "other" carriers.. You didnt have the fee when i signed my contract. Then quote from the contract.
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Yeah..but I assume the "service" theyre talking about is like data, text messaging, minutes..etc
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What the fine print says is that they can increase the service fees without notice, but this is adding a service fee. I think one could get out of your contract without ETF. I'll try calling tomorrow.
Hello everyone.
Does anyone know where i can buy Z2 unlocked (simfree+bootloader) in local store in london? Oxford street?
Also i am a tourist so i want to pay cash to get vat refund at the airport..do you know what i have to get for vat refund??
Please its very important to me..i have only 2 days to buy it..
dandi212 said:
Hello everyone.
Does anyone know where i can buy Z2 unlocked (simfree+bootloader) in local store in london? Oxford street?
Also i am a tourist so i want to pay cash to get vat refund at the airport..do you know what i have to get for vat refund??
Please its very important to me..i have only 2 days to buy it..
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It would be easier to just purchase It at an airport because you would get It duty free. I'm not aware of any way that you can get the tax back retrospectively.
If you want to go for a high street shop then carphone warehouse should do it sim free.
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It would be easier to just purchase It at an airport because you would get It duty free. I'm not aware of any way that you can get the tax back retrospectively.
If you want to go for a high street shop then carphone warehouse should do it sim free.
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Wich store have in hetrow airport at terminal 1 that i can buy z2 tax free?
Also is any one know if three stores can give me vat refund form?
dandi212 said:
Wich store have in hetrow airport at terminal 1 that i can buy z2 tax free?
Also is any one know if three stores can give me vat refund form?
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Ok I just did some reading up on it as I was interested:
VAT refunds for international travellers leaving the UK
If you are leaving the EU, the information below will help you understand if you may be able to get your VAT back on personal exports of goods.
If you live outside the EU
If you are an overseas visitor, to qualify for a VAT refund you must:
live outside the EU
leave the UK for a destination outside the EU with the goods you have bought by the end of the third month after the month when you bought them
show customs officials the goods, your receipts for them and a completed VAT refund document when you leave the EU.
You can obtain VAT refunds for anything on which you pay VAT in the UK apart from the following:
new or used cars
a boat you plan to sail to a destination outside the EU
goods worth more than £600 exported for business purposes
goods to be exported as freight
goods that need an export licence - except antiques
unmounted gemstones
bullion over 125g, 2.75 troy ounces or ten Tolas
mail order goods, including Internet sales
goods used or partly used in the EU, such as perfume
service charges, such as hotel expenses
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I would post you links but unfortunately my post count isn't high enough after 4 years. However the best approach would probably be in this case to go on the high street and fill in the VAT 407 form when you arrive at the airport.
You could try and do it there but the only tech shop I saw online is Dixons and they may not stock the phone at their airport locations.
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Ok I just did some reading up on it as I was interested:
I would post you links but unfortunately my post count isn't high enough after 4 years. However the best approach would probably be in this case to go on the high street and fill in the VAT 407 form when you arrive at the airport.
You could try and do it there but the only tech shop I saw online is Dixons and they may not stock the phone at their airport locations.
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ok thank you very much...
If any one have more information please let me know..
Go to Three, and buy one for £470, its sim unlocked and has a bootloader that can also be unlocked.
Three are not part of the tax free shopping scheme.
Carphone warehouse are but fill in the form AT THE POINT OF sale if you fill it in later it's pointless as the store assistant needs to fill in the sales confirmation section and needs to prove he saw your non EU passport.
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It's a yellow 4 page booklet if I remember rightly and it needs to filled out when the purchase is made. Some stores will even give you the refund there (minus a fee) but most will require you visit a booth at the airport with your form and sales receipt and the item.
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corallus said:
Three are not part of the tax free shopping scheme.
Carphone warehouse are but fill in the form AT THE POINT OF sale if you fill it in later it's pointless as the store assistant needs to fill in the sales confirmation section and needs to prove he saw your non EU passport.
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It's a yellow 4 page booklet if I remember rightly and it needs to filled out when the purchase is made. Some stores will even give you the refund there (minus a fee) but most will require you visit a booth at the airport with your form and sales receipt and the item.
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Carphone waerhouse price is 550£ .
If i get vat refund form from carphone i will have to pay some fees so i will get only 10-12% vat refund so the price in three stores are cheaper without the vat refund...
is any one know stores that have better price then carphone wearhose that can give me vat refund form?
By the way i'm soory for my bad english
Three store
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I think your best option is three without the refund, however look around before you buy and look for a sticker in the window saying tax free shopping and see if they do a price match, if they do, ask for the form when buying.
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yeah three would be even more convenient / cheap even without the VAT as you will save yourself a lot of hassle at Heathrow.