[Q] {Q} Straight Talk vs. AT&T go phone - AT&T LG Optimus G

I have been using gophone service for the last year or so and it's so epensive. My mother on the other hand has been paying 45 bucks for unlimited talk/text. I pay 60 bucks a month for a 2gb data unlimited tet/talk package + 2 gig's of add'l data (80-90 bucks total a month)...She just got this 45 dollar package that contains 4 sim card's (2 micro/standard sim cards & 2 nano sim cards). Well I got her phone working (it wasnt hard, it's not a smartphone)..I used a micro-sim card, inserted it into the slot...The phone tells me to reboot so I did..I expect to see bars or something but nothing happens. I than went to the apn settings and it has att, att phone, att broadband, att lte, straight talk & straight talk.mnvo...None of them work and all of them are forcing me back to the 3g selection instead of LTE preferred...How can I active a sim card that isnt showing me the right apns to give my phone (lg optimus g e970) data ? I really have no desires to go back to at&t go phone service....ST would give me 2.5 gb of high speed data + unlimited data/text for 45 bucks a month (a big difference in money)....once you use up the 2.5 gb of data it switches to using 2g data for data....when you use all your data with gophone, you have to buy another 1gb data package (10 bucks)...I dont have wifi....

You may wanna be concise in your description of issues. Too much unrelated stuff mixed in, my eyes are losing track
Try this:
Name: straight talk
APN: tfdata
MMSC: http://mms-tf.net
MMS PROXY: mms3.tracfone.com
MMS PORT: 80
MMS:80
Authentication type: PAP
APN type: default,supl,mms,hipri
Also you may need to call straight talk to activate the sims

yeah that apn was already included, I selected it. I went back to the mobile settings menu and selected LTE as preferred than pressed the back button. I went back to mobile settings and it was on 3g...No bars, ...I guess I do need to call ST just to activate the card...the pack my mother got contains onlye 1 service pin card but comes with 4 different sim cards (all with different serial numbers)...I really thought Id be able to stick the sim card in my phone and it show me if I actually get 4g LTE service on this phone thru ST...I didnt want to pay the 45 or 60 bucks for a plan for it to not work than have to pay an additional 60 bucks for ATT go phone service. When ST did not work...I did check the compatibility thru the straight talk website. It did say the phone was compatible with the e970. If you have a 4g LTE phone, wouldnt you want 4g LTE and not just 3g or HSPA+

I'm on straight talk too. You get att 4g lte with straight talk on this phone
This isn't a shared plan, you and you mom can't both use one 45 dollars plan. If your mom use a dumb phone she can use the All You Need plan through straight talk, which is even cheaper than this.
Also don't get too excited, the 4g lte you get through straight talk isn't gonna be as fast as att customers.

optimusv45 said:
I'm on straight talk too. You get att 4g lte with straight talk on this phone
This isn't a shared plan, you and you mom can't both use one 45 dollars plan. If your mom use a dumb phone she can use the All You Need plan through straight talk, which is even cheaper than this.
Also don't get too excited, the 4g lte you get through straight talk isn't gonna be as fast as att customers.
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Im not sure Ive ever heard that before, but thanks for the heads up...I guess Ill stick with att go phone. So why did you choose straight talk and not att go phone ? the only reason I was thinking about getting ST was b/c of the 2.5 gb's of data given to the 45/60 buck plan and the fact that you still have data when you've used up the 2.5 gig's...With att go phone, you get 2 gb's with the 60 dollar plan...You have a choice of buying an additional 1gb package of 10 dollars...So say tommorrow when I get paid...Ill end up having 4 gb's of data...but all of that data is a constant speed, there is no cap on speed....I watch what I download, dont usually download anything over 10mb's when using data....Ive watched porn a few times (streams) but im not sure how much data is used to stream a short clip or a continuous stream....I know FB is a huge data hog, so I try to limit my time on FB...There is wifi around my neighborhood but I only use it when Im downloading roms

jxcorex28 said:
Im not sure Ive ever heard that before, but thanks for the heads up...I guess Ill stick with att go phone. So why did you choose straight talk and not att go phone ? the only reason I was thinking about getting ST was b/c of the 2.5 gb's of data given to the 45/60 buck plan and the fact that you still have data when you've used up the 2.5 gig's...With att go phone, you get 2 gb's with the 60 dollar plan...You have a choice of buying an additional 1gb package of 10 dollars...So say tommorrow when I get paid...Ill end up having 4 gb's of data...but all of that data is a constant speed, there is no cap on speed....I watch what I download, dont usually download anything over 10mb's when using data....Ive watched porn a few times (streams) but im not sure how much data is used to stream a short clip or a continuous stream....I know FB is a huge data hog, so I try to limit my time on FB...There is wifi around my neighborhood but I only use it when Im downloading roms
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I had go phone long time ago. It was expensive so got rid of it for virgin mobile. Their beyond talk plan is 35, 300 minutes was not enough anymore, also tired of cdma phone so switched to ST. With ST you still get 2.5 gbs of data and unlimited 2g data after 2.5 is exhausted. The saving is what's real, man. Looks like you also work, so I'm sure you understand this. Prepare myself for an hour on the phone with ST retards if your switching your # over too

I stuck with at&t gophone....might do the switch later down the road..no idea, start college in may...do minds focused on that and everything
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optimusv45 said:
Also don't get too excited, the 4g lte you get through straight talk isn't gonna be as fast as att customers.
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It is here. I compared my ST speeds to two coworkers AT&T LTE phones last month. (Yeah, we're reeeeaaal productive some days.) Using the same servers, my speeds were nearly identical to one S4 and we were both a hair faster than a Samsung Note (3?) that we borrowed for the test.
All three were much faster than I was getting with a T-mo SIM for Simple Mobile, whether on LTE or or not. I'm leary of anything at Walmart, and I did have issues signing up and porting my number, but I've been happy with my three months on ST, especially after seeing more consistent coverage when travelling. I was mostly happy with T-Mo's network before I had an LTE-capable phone, but I'll stick to ST/AT&T.
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Iphone 2G data Plan on Galaxy s2

Hi,
I tried the iphone 2G trick to get Unlimited data (2G).
I get it, and put back the sim in my SGS2.
And it still get the speed of HSPA
Weird
is it safer now to move to Personal Smartphone dataplan (30 vs 20)
What's the iPhone 2G trick? It'd still be HSDPA speeds as that's what the SIM allows. The phone is restricted to to 2G and the carried will be able to see what speeds you're getting and move you to a limited package if you're not careful.
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Att can call it whatever they want. But for unlocked devices you get unlimited data 2g/3g/H/H+ on your device depending on your carrier and whats available in your area.
I could have got the unlimited non-smartphone plan but I stuck with the 2g iphone plan just incase I ever get an att device I will still have grandfathered unlimited data.
To be on safe side incase you ever use your att upgrade, switch to the grandfathered unlimited 30 plan.
I can't tell from his post but he may be on AT&T in the U.S. They have a dumb-phone unlimited data plan that you can use on a smartphone as long as they don't have the phone's IMEI in their database. A lot of us in the U.S. are using it with the SGS2 and getting HSPA+ speeds for $20 a month including unlimited MMS. Helps offset the ridiculous prices we've paid for the phone.
To future proof your data plan, I would say ge the $30 data plan or stay on the unlimited 2g iphone plan.
There is no point of the iphone 2g trick, if you switch to dumbphone plan.
Sorry, yes i am in us with ATT
Ok I see, so as long as the IMEI is not in ATT database, so i can use it.
If one day our cheer SGS2 has it IMEI in ATT, so my plan may be revoke in worst case or will be grandfather.
So if i want to futur proof at 100% it is better to go to the $30 smartphone plan (I still have my inspire)
Thx
There absolutely no chance att will have an unlocked version uk or anyother non att branded phone in there database.
The only few phones(and small %) were unlocked nexus one and dell streak imei were in att database.
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hate to bring back a thread thats several months old but i was wondering if the dumbphone plan still works for getting unlocked/UK GS2 phones to have unlimited HSPA+ data?
jerseykat1 said:
hate to bring back a thread thats several months old but i was wondering if the dumbphone plan still works for getting unlocked/UK GS2 phones to have unlimited HSPA+ data?
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Yup. I'm on it. Though it is probably throttled. The fastest speed I've gotten is around 6.5mbps, and I average around 3-4.
ctomgee said:
Yup. I'm on it. Though it is probably throttled. The fastest speed I've gotten is around 6.5mbps, and I average around 3-4.
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Would you mind sharing your APN settings? are you using the cingular apn settings?
just got my phone and i was originally getting about 3mb down, but now i am getting 1.6 mb down, but it could just be because of the rom that i am running.
jerseykat1 said:
Would you mind sharing your APN settings? are you using the cingular apn settings?
just got my phone and i was originally getting about 3mb down, but now i am getting 1.6 mb down, but it could just be because of the rom that i am running.
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Using wap.cingular. My speed varies quite a bit. 1.6 isn't that bad.
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EDIT: just ran again. got 1.885 down, .999 up. Last 4 results before that are:
4.1 down, 1.05 up
5.36 down, 1.05 up
2.37 down, 1.01 up
2.97 down, 1.13 up.
So, all over the place.
your right, it does vary quite a bit. i was able to get a few 4-5 pulls, then a few 3-4 pulls. So that is fine, still faster then what i am coming from at almost any given time.
Thank you.

I am sick of AT&T's slow sub 1mb's D/U speeds. HELP!!!

I am on the 500mb go phone plan and I live in a "4g" city. The best speed I ever got was 1.8mb's and that was at 11pm.
I have tryed:
1) Lot's of APN's
2) 2 new sims. (4G sims)
3) going to two att store's three times in all.
So I like this phone alot, but the "4g" speeds are sub par and then some. I was thinking to do one of the below if I keep it:
1) Sprint hotspot
2) verzion hotspot
3) Buy a verzion iphone 5 and use it as hot spot.( I don't like the iphone, but if it has LTE then maybe.)
The phone it's self is a 9.5/10 in my book and better any thing else so far.( This is just me)
If I sell the phone then I would go for one of the upcoming phone's. (No iphone if not LTE, better CPU then all or 1080P LCD.)
Thank's all and this is a phone that I realy want to keep.
Well it's either you change to postpaid plan w/ medianet or you do the hotspot thing, your choice.
How do I go to the postpaid plan w/ medianet and are the speeds any better?
4ktvs said:
How do I go to the postpaid plan w/ medianet and are the speeds any better?
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You'd have to get a non-smartphone plan. The speeds are way better, usually around 5mb or even higher but it varies on location.
That's the kind of speed I wanted in the first place. Now how should I go to this plan. do I need to call the 611# or could I do it in a store.
Edit: Where is this plan and how do you set it up right and keep your phone#. thanks
4ktvs said:
That's the kind of speed I wanted in the first place. Now how should I go to this plan. do I need to call the 611# or could I do it in a store.
Edit: Where is this plan and how do you set it up right and keep your phone#. thanks
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I'm not too knowledgeable on this situation since you started on a gophone plan. But I believe if you want to switch without getting stuck on those 2 year contracts, you'd have to order the AT&T Sim Card. Then just set up your minutes and add the medianet plan, btw you may need a dumbphone imei# so try and find a razor or something.
I can't find this plan on their site. I may just go to verzion and get the Nexus Prime, becuase I get 20% off the plan and $50 off the phone, BUT I realy wanted unlimited data.( From job)
Edit: I know it's not out yet and maybe it's just the GS2 HD LTE. This is my first smartphone and 2nd cell phone so I waited for over a year to made my pick and I like this phone alot and hope to fix this.
Dude are you even trying to look? If you be more clearer on what you can't find it be easier to tell you where too look. If your talking about the medianet plan it's in the added service section called Unlimited Non-Smartphone data.
I see it now. now how should I do this and what will the end cost be?
I will not be trying anything intell the next day. can any one put a vid on youtube of this phones 4G speed's. All I have seen is wifi tests. thank's
I have no idea, plan is based on how you choose it to be. So far it's 5$ for the simcard, then the rest is dependent on your minutes and extra services.
How should I buy the sim card and plan. Do I go to the store and ask for this plan or do it online some how. I don't want a two year lock in so how do I miss that mess.
Edit: opps
Can you tell me how I should set it up then. I don't talk on the phone alot or im alot, but Data I need lots and lots of it.
Ok I got a new sim card now what? Do I need to put in a dumb phone first or can I call from the S2?
I got the sim and put it in the phone and tryed the 611# and it does not work. Help!

Help picking prepaid service for streak

I was going to go with simple mobile but then saw I would only be able to get EDGE so I was thinking about getting a gophone and using that so I can get 3G. I went to go pick up a go phone simply and saw the 50 plan says its not for smartphone.
Will my internet work if I just get the monthly unlimited plan? Are there any other options and if i was to just go with simple mobile simple is EDGE that slow?
Any help is appreciated!!!
have you looked into h2o wireless? Last i heard they functioned on at&t network so you'd get full 3g
Yea I have looked at H20 and I'm not sure how long 1gb of data is gonna last for 60 a month. I know in the past I saw people using go phone sims with iphones and just wanted to know lf it's still working while getting internet on the 50 a month plan without buying a data plan also..l
hey this is off topic but, your talking about these data plans etc, ive seen a few posts on here regarding this. in my opinion they all seem a little pricey?
what exactly are you getting for 50 or 60 dollars a month?? here in the uk for 15 usd(10 gbp) i get 250 mins any network, unlimited texts any network, and unlimited data, which is hsdpa (7.2mbps) or 3g in lower signal areas
so my question is what are you getting for your money and why so expensive?
also im pay as you go, are your plans contract or pay as you go?
Only att is pricey, if you have metro pcs or simple mobile its only 50 a month with unlimited talk text and web.
But why is it so pricey?? I guess its a contract??
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I really don't know.
Does anybody know if using the sim from a e71 with straight talk still working?
I use 3 in the UK
The One Plan.
2,000 any network minutes
5,000 Three-to-Three minutes
5,000 texts and All You Can Eat internet ( With no "fair usage" policy, you can use all the data you want at no extra cost. )
£25 p/m
And tethering is allowed
Anybody else got any info???

double check on AT&T sim swap...

Just want to double check...
I'm going home this weekend and then am going on spring break to the beach for the next week. I'm going to go to the ATT store this weekend and grab a note if they have it and if I like it. But there's no way in hell i'm risking losing it/breaking it/ getting sand in it the first week I have it. Is there any reason I won't be able to just switch my sim cards back and forth between my ATT focus and the note? Basically i want to be able to just take my focus if i'm leaving the hotel.
Thanks!
No reason at all.
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My LTE sim works fine in my last phone, which was HSPA+.
thanks guys. i also wasn't sure of the sim card since i hear there's regular and mini now.?
techntrek said:
My LTE sim works fine in my last phone, which was HSPA+.
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Does NOT work the other way around though. I put the SIM from my Galaxy S2 in the Note and I could not get a data connection. I had to call and get the IMEI changed on my account and a LTE data plan added.
I think it has less to do with the sim or data plan associated with that sim, than the IMEI. I bought my daughter a H+ phone in September and it wouldn't take my old sim even though it worked in my own H+ phone with a 3G data plan. Never tried calling to change the IMEI to get it to work, but that is the only variable that would explain the problem.
Plus there are many others around here that have transferred their unlimited 3G data plan to their Note.
yeah i have a simple 200mb data plan if it makes a difference.
I had two issues.... This was coming from a SIM originally in a 3gs, moved to an Atrix, to a Focus and into a Nite this past weekend:
1) make sure you have an LTE compatible SIM. I still had an old 3g card from my 3gs. If your SIGhs a 2 and 5 in the 9th and 10th digit, you're good.
2) If you have the grandfathered unlimited data plan, you will need to go to a corp store to set your data plan up for LTE. You won't have data if just simply swapping. 5 separate phone reps couldnt do it without possibly ruining my grandfathers data. Walked into a corp store and they got got me hooked up in 5 minutes.
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i have a number on the front of my sim, and on the back 'read' side. one has 21 as the 9/10 the back has 22 as 9 and 10.
I'm looking on the website now and I'm getting a bit confused and wondering if they changed their plans. Is the 200mb plan gone and now replaced by a $20 300mb plan? It says if I change my plan I won't be able to go back to the 200mb. I'm assuming this is the same as those grandfathered in with the unlimited? I.E. I can keep it at the same rate as long as I don't change it?
And what about 4g/lte/etc. I thought those were upcharges for the faster services. Is this not the case?
I'm thinking it sounds like I'm going to need a new sim card probably?
My 3g card had 2/1 in the 9/10 positions.
Att did change there plans recently. They upper them amount of data per month for everyone, including raising the throttle caps for those of us on the golden unlimited plan, 3GB for 3g plans and 5GB on LTE plans. Those entries you see online aren't upsells, i think you saw the checker for Visual Voicemail for Android LTE devices, which was a free addon.
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Got the phone yesterday. They gave me a new sim and there's no issues at all. Can swap back and forth between the note and focus and everything is working fine.
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Galaxy Note AT&T radio tweaks

Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
C0BRA01 said:
Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
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I easily get 10MB down on my this phone on HSPA+, which is the same as my last phone. I'd say there is something wrong with your phone.
HSPA+
Are you running a stock rom? Mines rooted, but otherwise stock. Also, are you on AT&T?
EvoXOhio said:
I easily get 10MB down on my this phone on HSPA+, which is the same as my last phone. I'd say there is something wrong with your phone.
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C0BRA01 said:
Are you running a stock rom? Mines rooted, but otherwise stock. Also, are you on AT&T?
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I've tested running completely stock, stock + rooted, and on The Collective Unofficial ROM.
Yes I am on AT&T.
C0BRA01 said:
Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
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I'm running into the same issues. I am thinking that since I am a long time AT&T unlimited user, I only have two options available:
Note: I already unlocked, then rooted the stock with Odin, did a back-up with
Titanium, did a nandroid back from the phone, and loaded the clockwork recovery into my phone so that I can load ROMS easier.
Options:
1. Subscribe to AT&Ts NEW service options and I will be subscribed to their
new HSPA+/LTE club (give up unlimited) without any problems.
OR
2. Don't subscribe to any of their new plans, and stay stuck with the Edge and
3G, and Unlimited data services, all while the phone falsely shows 4G at the top of the screen.
My fastest down speed has been around 6.5 MB - depending on where I am while 4G was being displayed on the phone.
It seems to me that the HSPA+/LTE requires a special subscription.
Network Mode does not appear on my phone, so I can't ensure that it
it has a 4G service selected. I was looking for a fix that would turn my Network Mode back on.
I can see a defaulted APN titled AT&T PTA, but it is locked from edits.
If I set my phone to that defaulted AT&T PTA everything works but data. SpeedTest immediately displays, "Try Again".
In my Elixir application, if I choose "Turn WiMax(4G) ON,
I get the following in Elixir:
=====Data======
State: DcInactiveState
disconnected with last try at 4:38 PM
fail because
SERVICE_OPTION_NOT_SUBSCRIBED
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So, I think that either we need to figure out how to turn Network Mode back on,
for the AT&T Notes, or give up unlimited and go with their new plan.
Some kind of way it seems like a subscription may be tied into allowing HSPA/LTE speeds.
You don't have to give up your grandfathered unlimited plan for HSPA or LTE. They just upgrade you to the 4G version of the unlimited plan.
You may have to do it in an actual AT&T store (not a dealer) or over the phone with customer care.
Also these phones don't have wimax...
lactardjosh said:
You don't have to give up your grandfathered unlimited plan for HSPA or LTE. They just upgrade you to the 4G version of the unlimited plan.
You may have to do it in an actual AT&T store (not a dealer) or over the phone with customer care.
Also these phones don't have wimax...
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I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
4g vs 3g
Don't bother upgrading. I had unlimited, and am now on their 5gb a month plan with tethering. and I am not getting any faster speeds. I seriously doubt it's the plan, and I am getting billed for 4g.
Tecneek said:
I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
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Tecneek said:
I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
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I think maybe I misread your earlier post. Do you mean that you have an AT&T Unlimited plan (calling minutes, etc) or AT&T unlimited data plan?
If you have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, they should upgrade you to the unlimited 4G data plan with the new SIM card.
If you have the Unlimited calling plan, then you might have to suck it up and get one of the capped data plans if you really want LTE.
Either way, to get the faster data speeds you would need a new SIM card. The older SIMs (even from last year in some cases) can't handle the faster LTE speeds and can cripple the data speeds on the phone to the point you are describing.
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
Tecneek said:
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
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The reps are BSing you. I have a grandfathered unlimited plan & switched to a LTE unlimited plan by asking the rep to do it for me when I activated my I717. I came from a N7000 to an I717. Are you in a LTE area? I went from 3-6MB DL to 20-35ish MB DL, depending where I'm at.
RMXO said:
The reps are BSing you. I have a grandfathered unlimited plan & switched to a LTE unlimited plan by asking the rep to do it for me when I activated my I717. I came from a N7000 to an I717. Are you in a LTE area? I went from 3-6MB DL to 20-35ish MB DL, depending where I'm at.
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Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Tecneek said:
Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Oh, they looked at the SIM too and said it was a current SIM.
If you can send me the description of the svc as on the invoice I would appreciate..
XDA is no longer worth my time.
TimOster said:
I just picked mine up yesterday. Upgraded from a Nexus One. I still have the old SIM, it's disabled. I purchased the phone at the ATT store. Comes with a NEW SIM or you won't get LTE speeds.
1. Other than the upgrade fee, my monthly bill is the same. I still have my unlimited data plan, only since I'm LTE now I don't get throttled until I hit 5G.
2. I get 25M DL, 8.5 UL at my house. I live in San Diego. (depending on where I am. I tried here at work and got **** for DL, right next to thousands of iPhone users)
If someone is telling you different, they are lying.
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You guys got me feeling slighted over here Ok, I'm defintely going to follow-up again. I was wondering if your Nexus smartphone was a recognized AT&T phone. The pivotal point for grandfathering unlimited to LTE may be that they will do it only for THEIR phones that were previously recognized as smartphones. When they look up my records it comes back showing that I'm officially using one of their previous motorola razor phones, which at the time was not on a their smartphone plan, even though I was able to use the SIM in an unlocked non-AT&T HTC-HD2 without any problems.
So, maybe if you come from a recognized AT&T smartphone they will upgrade you, but if your last phone registered with them was not considered a smartphone while on an unlimited data plan, then they will not grandfather you in..
I gues it's worth another try.
p.s. thanks for helping me respond and overcome that *&^ image verification challenge
Tecneek said:
You guys got me feeling slighted over here Ok, I'm defintely going to follow-up again. I was wondering if your Nexus smartphone was a recognized AT&T phone. The pivotal point for grandfathering unlimited to LTE may be that they will do it only for THEIR phones that were previously recognized as smartphones. When they look up my records it comes back showing that I'm officially using one of their previous motorola razor phones, which at the time was not on a their smartphone plan, even though I was able to use the SIM in an unlocked non-AT&T HTC-HD2 without any problems.
So, maybe if you come from a recognized AT&T smartphone they will upgrade you, but if your last phone registered with them was not considered a smartphone while on an unlimited data plan, then they will not grandfather you in..
I gues it's worth another try.
p.s. thanks for helping me respond and overcome that *&^ image verification challenge
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No. It has to be an "unlimited smartphone data plan". If you have that no matter what phone you are using, you can keep it. Usually you can tell by how much you are paying for the data plan. There was a "unlimited" plan for other non smartphones for like $20 for phones like the Razor etc but the smartphone plan for what were known previously as PDAs was like $39.
So which one do you have? I am pretty sure if you only have the unlimited non-smartphone plan you cannot convert that to a smartphone unlimited plan...
LTE
Yes, and I think there is a list of cities somewhere. Seattle area, as high tech as it is, does NOT have it yet, while smaller cities, and lower tech areas do? Doesn't make sense to me. So for now I am stuck with HSPA+
On my HD2, I had regular 3g speeds, then I did a radio change, and used the Rafpigna Froyo ROM, and suddenly I started getting speeds like my sig pic shows. My data is slower with this ROM, but from what I have been reading around the net, my speeds are pretty typical for a lot of the Notes on HSPA+
Forgot to mention that I installed the leaked ICS ROM, and it is very much worth doing. Data speed went up a little as well. Still not as much as my HD2 was though.
Tecneek said:
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
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The speed of the network will always vary greatly. They are completely based on your proximity to the tower and the current load from other users on the tower. Unless you can find a tower with no other users on it and you can repeat the test from the exact same spot, there is no way to compare speeds between phones, or even the same phone at different locations.
If you find some threads where people are reporting their speeds, you will see that they vary by massive amounts.
I can say that I am still onthe unlimited data plan and on stock ROM I was getting 10Mbps. It must be your area because my last phone was hitting max capability on HSPA @ 7.2 Mbps.
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Edit, just to clarify I went from a 3G only phone and finally got a 4G phone and I really don't thing they are trying to throttle your speeds just because you are on 4G with an unlimited data plan.
I was an AT&T rep from a long time ago (before cingular) and one thing that has held true is that all reps are told by corporate to push people into new plans no matter what. I was told as a rep by another rep that even something as swapping phones required new 2 year contracts which was and still is bull.
AT&T arbitrarily swapped my plan when I went from my G1 to a streak because they said I never was on a smartphone plan. I explained to them that I was on a blackjack and went to a G1 (paying $30 a month) and then I went to the streak. They told me tough luck and they were keeping me on the tiered data plan. I calmly asked for their manager, when I was transferred I exploded on the manager telling them that I call every time when I swap phones to make sure everything is good (not needing to upgrade my plan or anything) and that it was their screwup and if they're treating me like this I was going to leave. I promptly got an apology and asked for my current IEMI number and we were done. I threw in words and phrases like improper business practices, bait and switch and other such things. Managers have more "Say" on what they can do, you tend to get things taken care of because they just don't want to deal with you.
that's been my experience with AT&T, they're far from perfect, but if you start yelling and being upset, you're more likely to get what you want. Sad but true.
LTE
Nope, no LTE in Seattle yet. Only HSPA+ Seattle is very high tech, and yet, no LTE here. One of AT&T's major data centers is here as well. Hard to tell why they are slow rolling it out here.
I don't get to see the invoices. My wife works for AT&T, and gets those. She did tell me I am being billed for 4g though.
Tecneek said:
Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Oh, they looked at the SIM too and said it was a current SIM.
If you can send me the description of the svc as on the invoice I would appreciate..
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