Do these new devices take advantage of Sandisk Extreme cards? - Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2, 10.1, 8.4 Accessories

Hello, looking for a 64GB card from Sandisk. I got conflicting experience from two users. Do these new devices take advantage of the faster speed of the Extreme, Extreme Plus and Extreme Pro cards? Is the speed much noticeably fast compared with the Ultra series? Thanks.

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64 GB Micro SD Card (UHS-I rated) Question

Is this card compatible with the Asus Transformer Prime?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007JTKM30/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
It is rated UHS-I, and I remember a friend of mine told me it's not advisable to use UHS cards on non-UHS devices! And I have not idea if the TF Prime is one..
If the above isn't compatible, how about this one?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005LFT40G/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
Btw, for those interested, as you can, there is a huge price reduction for the 64 GB Micro SD Cards...
Cheers
fonduekid said:
Is this card compatible with the Asus Transformer Prime?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007JTKM30/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
It is rated UHS-I, and I remember a friend of mine told me it's not advisable to use UHS cards on non-UHS devices! And I have not idea if the TF Prime is one..
If the above isn't compatible, how about this one?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005LFT40G/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
Btw, for those interested, as you can, there is a huge price reduction for the 64 GB Micro SD Cards...
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If you google "UHS-1 compatibility" your first hit says:
An SDXC UHS-I card will work in any SDXC compatible device at lower speeds, but to take advantage of the UHS-I speed, a UHS-I compatible device is essential.
I already ordered one 64gb and two 32gbs!
£45 here: http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...XC-UHS-I-Card-64-GB-with-Adapter/Product.html
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If you google "UHS-1 compatibility" your first hit says:
An SDXC UHS-I card will work in any SDXC compatible device at lower speeds, but to take advantage of the UHS-I speed, a UHS-I compatible device is essential.
I already ordered one 64gb and two 32gbs!
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Thanks.. Yes that's what they say..but my friend suggested not to use it? :-( so I was a bit confused...
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fordwolden said:
If you google "UHS-1 compatibility" your first hit says:
An SDXC UHS-I card will work in any SDXC compatible device at lower speeds, but to take advantage of the UHS-I speed, a UHS-I compatible device is essential.
I already ordered one 64gb and two 32gbs!
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Hi! I was interested in uhs-i cards to use them with data2sd. How did those cards perform? Is our Prime compatible with uhs-i or not?
Thanks!
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I have the card posted in the first link. It's 64 GB and UHS-I. Got it about a year ago when I first got my prime. I was a little worried, but had other devices that could use it instead...so I figured why not. It works fine for me and has been working to this day.
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I have really done any performance testing. But I haven't noticed any problems. It may or may not be worth the extra money for speed, but I was interested more in the capacity anyway.
Well, I was specifically interested in performance with expensive Extreme Pro cards.
intre said:
Well, I was specifically interested in performance with expensive Extreme Pro cards.
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Your question is slightly different than the OP. He was just asking if the cards worked. I was replying to his post. Because I noticed your post afterwards, I added some notes that I don't know. I also don't have an Extreme Pro card, which you explicitly didn't mention in your first post Also,
intre said:
Hi! I was interested in uhs-i cards to use them with data2sd. How did those cards perform? Is our Prime compatible with uhs-i or not?
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Asks two questions...if the tablet is compatible AND how they perform. I answered the second question. And the performance question did not explicitly state anything about Extreme Pro cards. The expectations that someone would know you meant that without explicitly stating so, in a thread unrelated to the topic is misleading at best. So...if you are being so specific AND asking a(t least one) question technically separate from the OP, another thread is probably in order.
Yes, my mistake. I came here thinking UHS-I were the same as Extreme Pro. Now I know they are not.
No worries. I know that it's a little screwy how each company indicates speeds and model names for their (micro) SD cards. For Sandisk, the Extreme Pro, Extreme, and Ultra cards are all UHS-I, I believe. If I recall correctly, the speeds Sandisk claims are 95MB/s, 45MB/s, and 35MB/s, respectively.
Note, if the device's SD card reader doesn't support a speed that high, then you will never get the speed that the card is capable of. Rather, you would only get the maximum speed of the device. I'm not exactly sure how fast the TF201's speed is...but I'm sure it's documented somewhere (sorry, I'm too lazy to find it at the moment).
I finally had some time to get to the point about performance. Hopefully, this will help you a bit.
TF201 - AndroWook v2.2
SD - Sandisk Ultra 64GB microSDXC UHS-I
App - A1 SD Bench
Card benchmark:
Read: 316.46MB/s (not long test)
Write: 9.47MB/s (not long test)
Read: 28.19MB/s (long test)
Write: 10.08MB/s (long test)
Internal memory benchmark:
Read: 350.91MB/s (not long test)
Write: 12.32MB/s (not long test)
Read: 26.99MB/s (long test)
Write: 14.29MB/s (long test)
RAM benchmark:
RAM copy: 726.15MB/s (not long test)
RAM copy: 805.04MB/s (long test)
It is theoretically possible to have better SD card speeds (with Extreme and Extreme Pro) if the hardware supports it. But if not, I might have already hit the maximum and be limited by it. Not sure either way. But hope the speed readings help!
Ultra is a great price and still fast. The two Extreme cards tend to be more geared towards video or high-speed photography - the Extreme Pro is quite expensive comparatively, and I would only recommend it if you really, really need it for your device. It will only save you milliseconds for most transfers...maybe seconds if you are copying/writing literally the entire card at one time. Of course, as long as a device supports these speeds, you will also benefit somewhat from read/write transfers to your computer/tablet/etc.
Well, I wanted to test data2sd on a fast microSD card because I want to get a fluid device. It gets freezed many times when working with it (in example, doing something while updating apps from the play store), and I read elsewhere it was caused by the very slow internal memory. So I suppose the faster the microSD I use, the faster the device will be.
It works, I have AndroWook 2.3 now and is running smoothly, far better than the internal sd . I'm running Data2SD with a 32GB Sandisk Ultra SD Card.
There are some discussions about the speed of different sd cards, It seems it has to do with random access speed.
What manufacturers state on their devices are secuencial access speeds.
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SanDisk or PNY

A friend I work with has a brand new PNY 32g class 10 high speed MicroSDHC card (simiilar to http://www.amazon.com/PNY-microSDHC...91917&sr=1-5&keywords=32+gb+micro+sd+card+pny) he is willing to give me for $20. I can also get a SanDisk Ultra 32 GB MicroSDHC C10 for about $23 on amazon(http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-micro...369628598&sr=8-4&keywords=32+gb+micro+sd+card). Which do you think is the better card far a speed and durability? and the random read/write scenario? thanks a lot.
EDIT: curious as to which one would be better at HD video recording and playback as well.
Honestly, I have used both PNY and Sandisk and have not seen a real difference in performance or durability in either one. That being said, I seem to remember reading an article recently (that of course I can't find now) that seem to show the Sandisk products handle sustained high data rate reads/writes better, but I have never seen this in any application. To be honest, in the phone you will likely be limited on the read-write speeds by the phone more than the card itself, in the Rezound the difference between a Class 4 and Class 10 is negligible.
So back to your original question... $20 to a friend or $23 to Amazon, just give your buddy the $20 and you have the card today.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1005633 from the nook color forum. Sandisk is faster for small block random write, which I would suspect is only an issue if your running the system off of SD like CM on the Nook devices. Probably not a issue being used for media storage on a phone.

SanDisk Extreme Pro microSDHC

Have a Verizon Galaxy Note 3 and reformatted my SanDisk 16GB Class 4 microSDHC that I had for my old phone to utilize with my new powerhouse. Upon taking pictures, I was not thrilled at all with the "Processing" time it was taking between shots. Purchased a SanDisk 16GB Extreme Pro microSDHC and did not notice any difference in processing time. Downloaded app "A1 SD Bench" and results from the test were Read speed of 21.48MB/s and write speed of 18.16MB/s. I can't seem to get a definitive answer if the Note 3 is UHS-1 compatible. If it is, I wonder if anyone else has achieved satisfactory results with the pairing of these to or if I am looking at a bunk card.
The processing bit appears when using "Smart Stabilisation". Turn it off and it should be instant. Also, afaik Note 3 doesn't support UHS-1.
I used a UHS-1 64GB with my note 2 and S 3 but unfortunately it died and I'm in the RMA process. But the card does work and at least in Note 2 there was no noticeable lag. Once I get my new card I'll try out that app.
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killa12222 said:
The processing bit appears when using "Smart Stabilisation". Turn it off and it should be instant. Also, afaik Note 3 doesn't support UHS-1.
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I'll try shutting that part off and see if it makes a difference.
h3ck said:
I used a UHS-1 64GB with my note 2 and S 3 but unfortunately it died and I'm in the RMA process. But the card does work and at least in Note 2 there was no noticeable lag. Once I get my new card I'll try out that app.
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Interesting. I have heard people that have stated that these higher speed cards have worked well in their Note 2s and I wonder why they would work in the Note 2s and not the Note 3.
Start stabilization ^
I've used the Ultra and I'm currently using the Extreme Plus
Same thing happens
Kawaisa said:
Start stabilization ^
I've used the Ultra and I'm currently using the Extreme Plus
Same thing happens
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Ok, but have you tested your speed on your card(s) to find if they were anywhere near the advertised speed? Trying to see if going to Class 10 was overkill.
stephonovich78 said:
Ok, but have you tested your speed on your card(s) to find if they were anywhere near the advertised speed? Trying to see if going to Class 10 was overkill.
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with a USB 3.0 reader, the Extreme Plus numbers were near or better than the advertised speeds. The Ultra was less than 30MB/s (which is the advertised speed)
Won't much of a difference within the phone since the phone doesn't support UHS-I
Currently running a Sandisk 32gb Class 4 and no issues here as I save my pics into the internal memory and move over if required. Might go class 10 when the 64gb becomes cheaper.
Kawaisa said:
with a USB 3.0 reader, the Extreme Plus numbers were near or better than the advertised speeds. The Ultra was less than 30MB/s (which is the advertised speed)
Won't much of a difference within the phone since the phone doesn't support UHS-I
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So is the Note 2 UHS-1 compatible? I have seen some crazy speed screen shots on the read/write speed for Note 2s and I am confused as to why.
stephonovich78 said:
So is the Note 2 UHS-1 compatible? I have seen some crazy speed screen shots on the read/write speed for Note 2s and I am confused as to why.
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Note 2 is not
got a link to these benchmarks?
I have a SanDisk 64GB UHS-1 in my Note 3 and also in one of my tablets. It performs excellent in both
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It's funny I have a regular 32 gb microsdcard by SanDisk... my pictures are captured instantly.. .is it possible you have a faulty phone? That's really the only reason I could see the camera taking so long really
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Roundtableprez said:
It's funny I have a regular 32 gb microsdcard by SanDisk... my pictures are captured instantly.. .is it possible you have a faulty phone? That's really the only reason I could see the camera taking so long really
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Do you have the smart stabilization setting on? I've never come across a note 3 that doesn't take a moment to "process" the image with the setting on
it will be interesting to see if there is any real world difference between say a 32 gig class 10 sandisk and my recently purchased 32 gig sandisk Extreme pro plus that I bought for my Meenova to go with my N5 , both are still in packaging , but I'm very interested to see any real world difference
Philly Jim said:
it will be interesting to see if there is any real world difference between say a 32 gig class 10 sandisk and my recently purchased 32 gig sandisk Extreme pro plus that I bought for my Meenova to go with my N5 , both are still in packaging , but I'm very interested to see any real world difference
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none, unless you're transferring files through a 3.0 card reader
Kawaisa said:
none, unless you're transferring files through a 3.0 card reader
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well then there was a waste of 40$.............
Many people don't realize that there are no phone that support UHS I, and the advertised speed is mainly for PC, or supported card reader.
I have tested most of these cards with a kingston reader that support UHS I, and the outcome is same or better the advertised speed.
kms108 said:
Many people don't realize that there are no phone that support UHS I, and the advertised speed is mainly for PC, or supported card reader.
I have tested most of these cards with a kingston reader that support UHS I, and the outcome is same or better the advertised speed.
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I have a 32gb class 10 sandisk in my n9005 and picture processing/writing happens instantly
I have a Lexar 64gb. All i ever got for speed was in the low 20's as well. The packaging says 90 mb/s and 600x but as mentioned already, that would only happen in the Lexar laboratory. I just got the card so I wouldn't have to be constantly moving the pic/videos to my computer

Micro SD Card

So I'm looking to purchase a 64GB Micro SD from Amazon for my Z2. Which one among these would you rank the best?
Samsung EVO :
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Adapter-MB-MP32DA-AM/dp/B00IVPU786
Samsung EVO Pro :
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Adapter-MB-MG64DA-AM/dp/B00IVPU88U
Sandisk Ultra :
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-MicroSDXC-Frustration-Free-Packaging/dp/B00DM1BDPK
Sandisk Extreme Plus :
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-MicroSDXC-Frustration-Free-Packaging/dp/B00DM1BDPK
I bought Samsung 64 worth 3500 or so and it is amazing. From flipkart.
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Well go for sandisk ultra or extreme plus...
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I have both the 64 GB Sandisk Extreme Plus and the 64 GB Samsung Pro. The only 633x card I don't have is the Lexar.
The Sandisk Extreme Plus is a bit quicker on reads (65MB/s) but a bit slower on writes (30MB/s)
The Samsung comes in at 50MB/s, sometimes getting up to 60MB/s on reads and consistently gets +40MB/s on writes, the quickest I've seen is about 45MB/s
These figures were tested using A1SD bench in phone, (Z2 seems to have an excellent SD card controller) these cards go much faster using a proper USB3 converter into a computer. The Samsung sustains a steady 70MB/s write speed and the Sandisk comes in at about 60MB/s write when tested in Windows 8.1
The Ultra is definitely a large step below, and the 128GB Ultra card is even slower.
With that said, I like the Samsung Pro and it's what I use in my device.
KyleSforza said:
So I'm looking to purchase a 64GB Micro SD from Amazon for my Z2. Which one among these would you rank the best?
Samsung EVO :
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Samsung EVO Pro :
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I'm probably mistaken, but is there really an EVO Pro or is that just the previous generation Pro?
The details on amazon seem to indicate it is just the last generation Pro
se1000 said:
I have both the 64 GB Sandisk Extreme Plus and the 64 GB Samsung Pro. The only 633x card I don't have is the Lexar.
The Sandisk Extreme Plus is a bit quicker on reads (65MB/s) but a bit slower on writes (30MB/s)
The Samsung comes in at 50MB/s, sometimes getting up to 60MB/s on reads and consistently gets +40MB/s on writes, the quickest I've seen is about 45MB/s
These figures were tested using A1SD bench in phone, (Z2 seems to have an excellent SD card controller) these cards go much faster using a proper USB3 converter into a computer. The Samsung sustains a steady 70MB/s write speed and the Sandisk comes in at about 60MB/s write when tested in Windows 8.1
The Ultra is definitely a large step below, and the 128GB Ultra card is even slower.
With that said, I like the Samsung Pro and it's what I use in my device.
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I have the same and I love it.
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KyleSforza said:
So I'm looking to purchase a 64GB Micro SD from Amazon for my Z2. Which one among these would you rank the best?
Samsung EVO :
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Adapter-MB-MP32DA-AM/dp/B00IVPU786
Samsung EVO Pro :
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Adapter-MB-MG64DA-AM/dp/B00IVPU88U
Sandisk Ultra :
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-MicroSDXC-Frustration-Free-Packaging/dp/B00DM1BDPK
Sandisk Extreme Plus :
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-MicroSDXC-Frustration-Free-Packaging/dp/B00DM1BDPK
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Sandisk Extreme Plus. Don't buy samsung's SD cards.
Uclydde said:
Sandisk Extreme Plus. Don't buy samsung's SD cards.
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My Sandisk 64GB EP microSD just failed and I had to sent it back for warranty. I personally wouldn't recommend those cards.
se1000 said:
I have both the 64 GB Sandisk Extreme Plus and the 64 GB Samsung Pro. The only 633x card I don't have is the Lexar.
The Sandisk Extreme Plus is a bit quicker on reads (65MB/s) but a bit slower on writes (30MB/s)
The Samsung comes in at 50MB/s, sometimes getting up to 60MB/s on reads and consistently gets +40MB/s on writes, the quickest I've seen is about 45MB/s
These figures were tested using A1SD bench in phone, (Z2 seems to have an excellent SD card controller) these cards go much faster using a proper USB3 converter into a computer. The Samsung sustains a steady 70MB/s write speed and the Sandisk comes in at about 60MB/s write when tested in Windows 8.1
The Ultra is definitely a large step below, and the 128GB Ultra card is even slower.
With that said, I like the Samsung Pro and it's what I use in my device.
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Thanks. Going to order EVO Pro. :good: I just wanted to know how it fairs in our Z2, since S5 users were getting lower speeds than the ones you mentioned.
KyleSforza said:
Thanks. Going to order EVO Pro. :good: I just wanted to know how it fairs in our Z2, since S5 users were getting lower speeds than the ones you mentioned.
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It seems as though the S5 (and definitely the S4 before it) suffers from a slower SD memory controller. I was actually surprised the Z2 could pull off the numbers it did, they are very fast speeds. I will say on the S5, if they're getting lower numbers, it's not because it's memory card limited. Both the Sandisk Extreme Plus and Samsung Pro UHS-1 cards are excellent and you really can't make a bad decision.
Where's the best place to buy these for UK customers
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Where's the best place to buy these for UK customers
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I got mine here:
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDX...Android-Micro-SD-(SDXC)-Class-10-UHS-1-30MB_s
I didn't manage to find a lower price for it in UK...
even though I'm not in UK it arrived in 5 working days...so I think in UK it's delivery times are around 1-2 working days.
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I was thinking about the Sandisk Extreme Plus 64 GB and Sandisk Ultra 128 GB but since I'm not using that much apps as I did on my 64 GB iPhone I decided to get the Extreme Plus also because of the huge difference in read/write speeds compared to the Ultra.
I didn't experienced any problems with the card. The only disadvantage is that I cannot use it in my tiny thumb drive since it only supports microSDHC but in fact I never needed it yet since Android supports MSC and with the tiny USB-microUSB cable that came with the SWR10 SmartBand everything is fine
an3k said:
I was thinking about the Sandisk Extreme Plus 64 GB and Sandisk Ultra 128 GB but since I'm not using that much apps as I did on my 64 GB iPhone I decided to get the Extreme Plus also because of the huge difference in read/write speeds compared to the Ultra.
I didn't experienced any problems with the card. The only disadvantage is that I cannot use it in my tiny thumb drive since it only supports microSDHC but in fact I never needed it yet since Android supports MSC and with the tiny USB-microUSB cable that came with the SWR10 SmartBand everything is fine
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There is Sandisk Ultra 128GB and Extreme 64GB and Extreme Plus 64GB. I believe the card reader on z2 should not support the Extreme Plus speed(80MB/s read & write) so you just need to get an Extreme 64GB(40MB/s read & write). The Ultra ver should be around 40MB/s read with only 10MB/s write.
Basically, the read speed on z2 on Ultra/Ext/ExtP is just about the same, the huge different is only at write speed. If budget isn't a concern and think about future upgrade like z3/z4 probably would support higher speed, you can just get the Extreme Plus.
How do you all use it?.....fat32 or is it working with ntfs?
Try EXFAT
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Samsung Pro all the way, Sandisks are just a nightmare and are avoided at all costs over in asia
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Try EXFAT
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Exfat is great, mines a 64gb Samsung evo. But you wont be able to see it in certain ROMS.
The ones that I tested were:
-CM11 Sabermod
-PA Sabermod
-CrDroid
-Vanir? (I think.)
All the rest work fine with it (for me) including stock and stock based ROM's.
Ok thanks for the info,right now I'm with stock rom and working fine.
TheEndHK said:
There is Sandisk Ultra 128GB and Extreme 64GB and Extreme Plus 64GB. I believe the card reader on z2 should not support the Extreme Plus speed(80MB/s read & write) so you just need to get an Extreme 64GB(40MB/s read & write). The Ultra ver should be around 40MB/s read with only 10MB/s write.
Basically, the read speed on z2 on Ultra/Ext/ExtP is just about the same, the huge different is only at write speed. If budget isn't a concern and think about future upgrade like z3/z4 probably would support higher speed, you can just get the Extreme Plus.
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I have the Sandisk Extreme Plus 64GB, the Ultra 128GB and Samsung Pro 64GB. Benched all three and the Ultra is definitely the slowest by a good margin. The Sandisk Extreme Plus was slightly quicker on reads than the Samsung (50Mbps read / 40 Mbps write) , but the Samsung was a bit quicker on writes (45Mbps read / 45 Mbps write). The Samsung seemed to be more consistent as well. This was using A1 SD Bench. Not going to swap out cards and run them all again so you'll just have to take my word for it.

[Q] Which microSD card?

Hi all..
This is a fairly beginnerish question, I know, but i've just ordered an Xperia Z2 tablet and i'm now trying to buy a microSD card for it, but the range of possible cards with different letters and sizes and descriptions is crazy.
Can someone tell me which ones I am limited to (and perhaps which ones are better to get)? If it makes any difference, I would use it to store video files, so the bigger the capacity the better.
I think it says on the Sony website that it can do 'up to' 128gb, which seems like heaps. Just hoping for clarification on this. Some Googling and reading around has got me nowhere.
Thanks!
Any MicroSD card will do.
Two main considerations are capacity and speed. Capacity is the easy one, most cards will offer a 64GB size. Sandisk is the only company with a readily available 128GB card out today.
Speed is the other factor. Although I don't have a Z2 tablet, if it shares the same memory controller as the Z2 phone, it is a very good one and can take advantage of the fastest MicroSD cards out today. Slower cards can hinder performance when taking pics, video, etc.
This is a recent thread on the Z2 forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764546
As mentioned in that thread, my personal favorite is the Samsung Pro 64GB, excellent performance.

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