Hello people, I'm glad to join this forum!
I caught my Thor right in time before the latest update and successfully towelrooted. Many thanks to the local geniuses!
Everything works peachy after the root, google play, etc.
The only issue I encountered after rooting is that a couple of apps stopped working - Yandex Disk and Apps&Game (for 4pda forums). Deleting cache didn't help, had to remove both. I haven't tried to reinstall the yet.
And as for the title issue. If I use the bluetooth headset with hdx it works great, until the screen times out or turned off. Then the audio starts skipping randomly, through any app.
Also I tried using a BT mouse with the device, but it's pretty much useless for browsing - it starts to interfere with wifi, pages won't load, or load very slowly.
Just thought to ask if it's just my device or such BT issues are "normal" for HDX.
Thanks!
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"And as for the title issue. If I use the bluetooth headset with hdx it works great, until the screen times out or turned off. Then the audio starts skipping randomly, through any app."
I have had the same issue too. Both on stock rom and Cpasjuste/ggow's rom on Apollo. So no, this isn't just you.
I have tons of tablets and on each one certain Bluetooth devices will slow or even outright break wifi. It's the most annoying thing. At any rate the only solution I know of is to have 2 routers, one a 2.4 ghz b, g, n for the whole house to use and one 5 ghz router placed near where you primarily use your devices while on bluetooth. Bluetooth devices interfere with wifi on 2.4 ghz and 20/40 mhz frequencies so a 5 ghz router will still run your device and Bluetooth will work well. Yea it blows. One thing that REALLY makes this worse in tablets and laptops is when the manufacturer puts the radios on the same chip, or even real close together. Totally blows up the functionality of the device, and it happens way you more than it should. Cheap manufacturers make mistakes.
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Hello people,
This is not the normal complaint thread about WiFi and Bluetooth issues, so please don't flame without reading.
I have managed to reproduce and NOT reproduce the WiFi speed issues when streaming data or audio thru Bluetooth, and I have found a pattern.
I'm almost sure it is a Software issue. With the Prime running WiFi and Bluetooth over the same chip/antenna it is normal to have a speed drop when using both, but not to bring WiFi speed to a crawl (300kbps tops).
So, what I'm asking for is information about the Bluetooth device you are using, if you can give me brand and specific model better, the more information I have about the device the merrier
Second, I need information about your Wifi speed with stream and without stream or at leleast if you have major speed drops or your if Prime works well.
Ill be going this weekend to Saturn or something to try top-notch super expensive Bluetooth devices and see the results.
What is the pattern you found? It might explain why some people bt/wifi works fine and others dont.
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What is the pattern you found? It might explain why some people bt/wifi works fine and others dont.
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Something about the Bluetooth profile being used by the tablet when connecting to devices.
I posted some videos about my prime being able to stream HD video while listening to it through Bluetooth. And some speed tests while using my AKG 830BT headphones.
What was my surprise when using the cheaper Motorola DC800 Bluetooth receiver or headphones? The issue everyone was complaining about here, WiFi speeds of 150K... which of course is useless for anything but chatting.
Doing some research I've found out that those motorola devices use older BT versions (2.0) and one of them does not have HQ A2DP audio.
Long story made short, after testing a few of the BTdevices I own, I found out some of them cause issues while others not.
That's why I'm asking now here, users with and without issues to post their BT Device Models/Brand so I can search which BTprofiles are being used and if some of them are causing issues.
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Something about the Bluetooth profile being used by the tablet when connecting to devices.
I posted some videos about my prime being able to stream HD video while listening to it through Bluetooth. And some speed tests while using my AKG 830BT headphones.
What was my surprise when using the cheaper Motorola DC800 Bluetooth receiver or headphones? The issue everyone was complaining about here, WiFi speeds of 150K... which of course is useless for anything but chatting.
Doing some research I've found out that those motorola devices use older BT versions (2.0) and one of them does not have HQ A2DP audio.
Long story made short, after testing a few of the BTdevices I own, I found out some of them cause issues while others not.
That's why I'm asking now here, users with and without issues to post their BT Device Models/Brand so I can search which BTprofiles are being used and if some of them are causing issues.
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This makes sense though since it most likely is a hardware issue. A2DP is high bandwidth. The identified cause of our woes is the fact that wifi and bluetooth are on a single module. So when A2DP is being used, most of the modules time is used on bluetooth and less on wifi, thus slowing down speeds. The solution from ASUS was using RMAs to add another module so that one is dedicated to wifi and the other to bluetooth.
I could be wrong though.
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This makes sense though since it most likely is a hardware issue. A2DP is high bandwidth. The identified cause of our woes is the fact that wifi and bluetooth are on a single module. So when A2DP is being used, most of the modules time is used on bluetooth and less on wifi, thus slowing down speeds. The solution from ASUS was using RMAs to add another module so that one is dedicated to wifi and the other to bluetooth.
I could be wrong though.
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It would make sense, if it wasn't backwards!
The High Quality A2DP Profile audio is the one NOT killing my WiFi speeds. Every time my Prime connects to an older device using one of the other profiles the WiFi speeds go to hell.
Both WiFi/Bluetooth being in the same Module can cause speed drops, but not completely kill WiFi Speeds.
These are my speeds when using the AKGs Headphones:
No BT stream: 24.91 Mbps.
BT Audio streaming: 18.13 Mbps.
(video and stuff here)
That speed difference IS the one caused by both running on the same chip.
Same tablet, same router, but I change the headphones and the speed wont go past 150kbps. Doesnt matter if the prime is sitting on the router.
Anyways, I'm asking the people who was complaining about the speed (and those whose Primes do work)to feed some info, it is not like I'm gonna waste others time Ill do the research and tests. Just need a bigger data pool.
Go for it. Good luck
Sony DR-BT101 (headset, not an ear piece)
I was told by Asus they have a "fix" with new hardware if I wanted to RMA my device. I just don't know how effective the "fix" is.
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Go for it. Good luck
Sony DR-BT101 (headset, not an ear piece)
I was told by Asus they have a "fix" with new hardware if I wanted to RMA my device. I just don't know how effective the "fix" is.
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How bad is your WiFi loss, partial loss (normal from using WiFi/BT on same chip) or total, like going down to 150K~?
I have never measured as I just don't use the combo anymore. I know it happens, got frustrated, and use my wired ear buds after the first few weeks of owning the tablet. It does have the signal degrade though. The headset is about 2yrs old.
I can test it out when I get home. The work wifi is limited to 750kb download speeds per user.
I have a Netgear WNDR3700V1 with fibre 35/35mbit
Using the Plantronics BT300 headset the wifi drop to under 1 mbit or almost zero, YouTube buffers.
Without BT I have full speed above 30mbit at least.
The only way to "avoid buffering and dropouts" is to use a WN3000 Netgear Extender in same room where the Prime is.
This way I manage to listen to Youtube without drops.
So if the signal is still stron the loss is "not bad", but how many do have 35mbit up and down with fibre.
Those with low speed, will still have drops.
Why is it that once I connect to miracast it will disconnect from wifi? Is it hardware limitation or software bug? My Samsung note 2 can connect on both miracast and still maintain wifi connection.
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Why is it that once I connect to miracast it will disconnect from wifi? Is it hardware limitation or software bug? My Samsung note 2 can connect on both miracast and still maintain wifi connection.
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I believe that Sonys implementation of Miracast is wrong.
From what I read, Miracast it self allows for up to 10 connections and as you say your Samsung Galaxy Note 2 can handle both network connection and Miracast.
There's two threads at Sony's Xperia Forum that discuss this problem.
At first the Xperia Team said it was by design, but when several users explained that Samsung phones can have a Wifi connection active at the same time and that all Nexus phones running 4.2.2 could also handle this,
then the Xperia Team said that they would escalate the issue, but after that there has been no more feedback...
Here's the threads at Sony's Xperia Forum:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/127452?start=0&tstart=0
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/453753#453753
This is actually a really bad thing. I also purchased the push2tv system so could stream Netflix and YouTube from my tablet. No luck with that. My HTC one does it without problems.
I am starting to think that what if the random wifi disconnections are related and is because Sony uses only one antenna while there should be two.
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This is actually a really bad thing. I also purchased the push2tv system so could stream Netflix and YouTube from my tablet. No luck with that. My HTC one does it without problems.
I am starting to think that what if the random wifi disconnections are related and is because Sony uses only one antenna while there should be two.
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actually the tablet z uses MIMO and has 2 antennas. in my opinion it´s clearly a software restriction.
I had the same issue since i bought the dock and push2tv for the same reason. Unfortunately nothing so far. It is definitely a software problem as Sony seems to have fixed it with the Xperia Z Ultra. It works fine while still connected to wifi.
The Xperia Z disconnects also by the way.
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Is it a restriction on the S4, over Snapdragon 800? That could be why the Ultra (and then Honami) works.
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Is it a restriction on the S4, over Snapdragon 800? That could be why the Ultra (and then Honami) works.
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So it was not fixed with 4.2.2? LOL
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So it was not fixed with 4.2.2? LOL
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No. I have to assume it's a hardware restriction then, or Sony can't or won't fix it.
I am now using MHL, which seems like a far easier solution - although even that cuts the performance of the phone considerably. Epic Citadel can benchmark at around 59fps on the phone display, but output via HDMI and it drops things to 30-40fps.
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No. I have to assume it's a hardware restriction then, or Sony can't or won't fix it.
I am now using MHL, which seems like a far easier solution - although even that cuts the performance of the phone considerably. Epic Citadel can benchmark at around 59fps on the phone display, but output via HDMI and it drops things to 30-40fps.
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weird, some say it works on T, so why would XZ and XTZ be affected?
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weird, some say it works on T, so why would XZ and XTZ be affected?
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That's weird if it works on the T. I think this needs to be clarified. If it does, Sony really should be able to make it work, or else asked why they went backwards with the Z/TZ by changing the Wi-Fi specs/antennas.
I am going to go and check my Nexus 4 and see if that retains the connection. Previously I couldn't connect it to my TV but a new LG update on the TV has hopefully fixed things.
So did Sony really f*ck this up here. Unbelievable..I must say that I am so disappointed now. I was hoping to stream Netflix from the tablet.
Maybe I then have to get chromecast when available in Europe. I assume that it doesn't use miracast to do the streaming but likely it will stream on its own.
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So did Sony really f*ck this up here. Unbelievable..I must say that I am so disappointed now. I was hoping to stream Netflix from the tablet.
Maybe I then have to get chromecast when available in Europe. I assume that it doesn't use miracast to do the streaming but likely it will stream on its own.
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Right, just tried my Nexus 4 and it does keep the Wi-Fi connection. However, there's a lot more lag and the TV image doesn't quite keep up. What's more, the picture breaks up when it doesn't on the Xperia Z.
However, having an Internet connection does of course mean you can now stream TV and movies with Netflix or Google Play. Play crashed when playing a film though, and I have to say I didn't realise it could output a different screen. Netflix doesn't support this, and I'm not sure what else might (perhaps YouTube and other Google apps?).
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Forget it, guys.
This concept of streaming stuff from the tablet is going to fade anyway.
For Youtube, Netflix etc. simply shell out $35 and get a Chromecast.
Or buy a Raspberry Pi and make your own Chromecast-y device.
Or buy a Satellite receiver like the Vu+ Solo2 and use Airplayer plugin.
All these solutions have in common that the streaming happens on the other device, not the tablet, and therefore is simply more stable and reliable (especially when a wired network connection is used). The tablet is only a controller, a"chooser" for media. (That's also more battery-friendly, by the way.)
Yes I know it should keep the wifi connection. I am mirrorring with my HTC One and wifi doesn't disconnect.
Only problem with HTC One is that after using for an hour or so the phone will get so hot that I get some warning message about it.
So that much for watching a movie like that.
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Forget it, guys.
This concept of streaming stuff from the tablet is going to fade anyway.
For Youtube, Netflix etc. simply shell out $35 and get a Chromecast.
Or buy a Raspberry Pi and make your own Chromecast-y device.
Or buy a Satellite receiver like the Vu+ Solo2 and use Airplayer plugin.
All these solutions have in common that the streaming happens on the other device, not the tablet, and therefore is simply more stable and reliable (especially when a wired network connection is used). The tablet is only a controller, a"chooser" for media. (That's also more battery-friendly, by the way.)
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Yes thats basically the better way to do it. I also do have WDTV Live and I can basically use Youtube so that I control with tablet and play on the big screen. Unfortunately the software on WDTV Live is buggy as hell and it crashes every now and then.
Also for some reason Netflix doesn't have this similar possibility.
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Yes I know it should keep the wifi connection. I am mirrorring with my HTC One and wifi doesn't disconnect.
Only problem with HTC One is that after using for an hour or so the phone will get so hot that I get some warning message about it.
So that much for watching a movie like that.
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Yes thats basically the better way to do it. I also do have WDTV Live and I can basically use Youtube so that I control with tablet and play on the big screen. Unfortunately the software on WDTV Live is buggy as hell and it crashes every now and then.
Also for some reason Netflix doesn't have this similar possibility.
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I agree that the Chromecast way of doing things is the way forward for streaming services. However, I'd have liked to be able to play games without lag/dropped frames on the big-screen - and it seems that with or without the Wi-Fi connection staying open, the quality isn't quite there.
Maybe Snapdragon 800 improves this - and that could be something to sway me towards Honami - but perhaps Miracast will remain useful for showing off photo and videos stored locally (your own content) as a far better option than DLNA that rarely, if ever, works with modern video formats and resolutions.
Things like Miracast etc. are mostly used at home, where you have your TV or projector.
But at home it's not necessary to store the videos on a tablet and then stream them to the TV.
At home one has some kind of NAS from which the files are fetched.
I admit that for a long time I also thought about using the tablet as media hub / storage.
But if one thinks a bit about it and researches, it becomes obvious that much better and tried-and-tested options exist.
And for all other cases (like projecting different apps or playing a game on the big screen) the Tablet Z has a MHL/HDMI output, that's what it's for.
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And for all other cases (like projecting different apps or playing a game on the big screen) the Tablet Z has a MHL/HDMI output, that's what it's for.
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Even MHL slows the phone down, which must be a hardware limitation of the phone.
SlimPort is even worse. I don't know what sort of handshaking is carried out with that, but on my Nexus 4 when I was at CES I was on the stand of a company making them and we hooked my phone up to have the phone crash (even restarting on occasion) within seconds of connecting it.
I'd be interested to see if Snapdragon 800 has less problems with TV output, via Miracast or a cable - but the idea of using the smartphone as a remote to control streaming directly to a device (like a TV with a wired Internet connection) certainly makes sense. Google has once again come up with something great here, and it's probably totally the opposite of the direction Apple intends to take TV in the future.
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Hi guys, has anyone else had problems connecting their XTZ using miracast? I have the push2tv and my HTC One connects perfectly, but my Xperia tablet gives the error "Could not turn on screen mirroring. The output device does not support HDCP". It seems very strange as the tablet is listed the supported devices on Netgear's site.
I have the 312 version, and have the latest firmware on the push2tv.
this problem definitely not solved within 4.2 update. Dissapointing.
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This ist what I posted in the sony forum thread under talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Tablet-Z/Can-t-do-Screen-Mirroring-miracast-and-WiFi-connection/td-p/333179/page/3[/url]
Sooo, installed Cyanogenmod 10.2 (based on Android 4.3 which supports WiDi/Miracast natively) and see there:
WIDI/Miracast and the connection to my home WiFi Network work simultaneously.....!!!
So Sony, two lessons for you here:
1. Get of your collective ***** and get Android 4.3 going without nerfing perfectly fine core features
2. If you're going the forum/community way, provide correct information (aka really ask your developers) and don't spew half informed nonsense/play the information hiding game...
To everyone else here: give them ****, or they will never learn!
PS: Who wants to try, google Cyanogenmod ("Pollux" -for LTE variant- or "Pollux_Windy" -for WiFi only variant-). Warning!: Possible Warranty void when flashing custom ROMS
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=> SW Issue !!!
Hi
Just got my 16GB WiFi Tablet Z running 4.1.2 (build 10.1.C.0.370) a few days ago and I've noticed that while I have my Bluetooth headphones connected (to avoid using those pesky port covers ) the WiFi performance of the tablet becomes very poor and erratic. The tablet doesn't disconnect from any networks, it maintains a connection and the signal strength shows no change but pages become very slow to load (if they load at all) and YouTube videos will not buffer properly. It will then work fine for a few minutes but then have issues and become unusable afterwards.
I've had this issue every WiFi network I've tried. 2 in the house (2.4Ghz) and a 5GHz one along with the mobile hotspot on my phone.
I've never had this issue on any other device I've had (OG Nexus 7, HTC One, HTC One X+, Samsung Galaxy Note, ASUS Transformer TF100) so
I'm wondering if this is a software issue that may be fixed with the upcoming 4.2 update or a custom ROM or is it still there on other ROMs and it is a hardware issue?
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Hi
Just got my 16GB WiFi Tablet Z running 4.1.2 (build 10.1.C.0.370) a few days ago and I've noticed that while I have my Bluetooth headphones connected (to avoid using those pesky port covers ) the WiFi performance of the tablet becomes very poor and erratic. The tablet doesn't disconnect from any networks, it maintains a connection and the signal strength shows no change but pages become very slow to load (if they load at all) and YouTube videos will not buffer properly. It will then work fine for a few minutes but then have issues and become unusable afterwards.
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First Time i connect with Bluetooth (Keyboard) the Wifi connect was lost...i had to restart the Tablet.. I hope it is only a Software Problem
This is a known issue for this specific tablet. It's on the Sony mobile discussion forums for tab z. Bluetooth and wifi work fine separately it's just when they are on together that issues appear. For me, wifi didn't stop working all together, it just took far too long to even load the most basic of websites. No response from one just yet.
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UPDATE: Just updated to 4.2.2 and from what I have experienced, it seems as if they have fixed the issue. I can use my Bluetooth headphones and listen to music without any Wifi problems
Could anyone else confirm this?
573W1E said:
UPDATE: Just updated to 4.2.2 and from what I have experienced, it seems as if they have fixed the issue. I can use my Bluetooth headphones and listen to music without any Wifi problems
Could anyone else confirm this?
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I am still facing this issue.
My phone is usually connected to wifi ac and i curently have no issues with it. (two or more past vendor versions had serious problems as well).
Long story short, I thought that newly buried ethernet wire was defected but it turned out that my Spotify (and all other listenting apps) will plummet the download speed over wifi n when using bt audio. Curiously, only download seems to be affected.
Tried some recent vendors, and the last two stabl miui roms and no fix.
I distinctly remember, two months ago when I had no signal in a foreign village because a broken beta rom/vendor. It didn't grab reception when it should have been back...
So...what vendor to try? Preferably, one that works with latest pixel experience rom and has l1 certificatio. (Because who knows hat happens then...my GPS won't work because reasons unknown).
I had some similar BT/wifi related drama once. Turned out my BT mouse and wifi router were fighting each other over the 2.4ghz radio band. Mouse was choppy, wifi was unstable. You know what to do
Hey there!
Ever since the official Android 10 update I'm experiencing interrupts in my wifi connection whenever I put my tablet away for a few minutes. I'd guess that's probably some new feature for battery saving, at least it's called "sleep mode" on my OnePlus 5T, but I haven't found anything similar on my tablet yet. The patch notes for the Android 10 update also don't mention anything wifi or battery related as far as I can tell....
It's not my wifi since my phone and my bf's phone all work as usual.
Any ideas or anyone experiencing the same issue? Already checked dev options in the settings, but couldn't see anything related. Maybe I missed some settings somewhere?
Samsung Galaxy Tab S6, 256 GB LTE (SM-T865)
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I've been experiencing problems with WiFi direct screen share connections too, like Miracast protocol
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Hey there!
Ever since the official Android 10 update I'm experiencing interrupts in my wifi connection whenever I put my tablet away for a few minutes. I'd guess that's probably some new feature for battery saving, at least it's called "sleep mode" on my OnePlus 5T, but I haven't found anything similar on my tablet yet. The patch notes for the Android 10 update also don't mention anything wifi or battery related as far as I can tell....
It's not my wifi since my phone and my bf's phone all work as usual.
Any ideas or anyone experiencing the same issue? Already checked dev options in the settings, but couldn't see anything related. Maybe I missed some settings somewhere?
Samsung Galaxy Tab S6, 256 GB LTE (SM-T865)
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I am having he same issue. did you find some solution?
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I am having he same issue. did you find some solution?
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Yup! I did a couple of things though, so I don't really know which of them actually helped fixing the issue, or if it's even required to do all.
- I got 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz wifi. They shared the same name, which made my tab switch between them often. I renamed both wifis so they don't share the exact same name (fun fact, they're now called Pizza 2.4 and Pizza 5). My tab is now only using the 5 GHz one, the 2.4 one now is only for devices that don't support 5 GHz (like my New Nintendo 3DS XL or my printer), because I live in an area where many people are, and the more wifi channels are occupied, the messier (and more prone to interferences) it gets. 5 GHz has a smaller range but is also stronger, which is perfect for my small flat. On 2.4 there's way more interferences because it has more range.
- In my router's settings, I've set the tablet's IP to static, because I've read somewhere that this might help.
Can't tell if both steps are required, you might just wanna try out one first if you don't necessarily want a static intern IP for example.
My tablet also used to take ages to find my wifi, which is now fixed for some reason. On my OnePlus 5T it still takes very long to find my 5 GHz wifi, although it also has a static IP. But both devices won't disconnect randomly anymore.