Just got note from my contact at Umeox that they are ready to produce a new version of SmartWatch. It takes after the general look and size of the existing x201 series, but adds some nicely upgraded features that are enticing.
As always, nothing I have is 100% confirmed... but rumors usually are typically nothing but just premature facts.
The watch will have:
1.2 - 1.4MHz dual core, MTK6572w (Not the 6577)
Full Android KitKat 4.4
320x320 LG display, 1.54" - 1.6"
Will be branded as a Umeox
1G/8G (up to 64Gb)
US GSM, 850mhz 2G and 1900mhz 3G
Wi-Fi b/g/n
Bluetooth 4.0
GPS
5.0M Camera
720p HD video
IP68 water worthiness
OTA updates
So far, they have yet to receive enough orders to produce the first 500 units, currently short by only 100, and have asked me to post a poll and see how much interest there is for a device like this on this side of the world...
Initial reports show this watch will sell for less or the same as the TS.
So question of the day...
1. What is your interest level on a device that would have the above specifications? What would you like to see added or changed?
2. Would you buy this watch if the above specs are true, value pricing and is branded under Umeox with their support?
I'll go first...
YES and yes!!!
For me, one of my bigger complaints about my TS is the poor resolution of the screen. I think the added dpi will be extremely helpful in reading some of the smaller text in some third party apps. Also the failed waterproof design of the TS has me constantly in fear of loss doing menial H2O activities and is totally unacceptable.
Competitors or alike devices
I was looking at the Gear S due to it's beautiful curved, hi-res screen... But TIZEN....! Come on, Sammy, stop trying to become Apple and create your own ecosystem!
This has put my and my techy friend's interest in the AI Watch on the back burner and would rather have these specs. We all would very much like to see this one make it to the US market... Please give your comments.
My interest is low, because this is the device backers should have received.
If I can trade old devices for it, I'd be happy to.
Otherwise, no. The interest is clearly there but not for what I paid at KS price for the TS1.
My interest is high. I would buy if it had kk and some improvements in hardware.
Perhaps if MediaTek is participating with the Android One initiative we will see better support? Dunno what the board specs are so who really knows.
http://www.mediatek.com/en/news-eve...-affordable-smartphones-for-emerging-markets/
But yes, I would buy it right now if it had a slight hardware bump and KK.
Couldn't agree more! But in the end, the TS was a first. Technology firsts don't have the greatest of track records. Of the standalones available or coming available, ie Gear S, AI Watch and various no name SZ offerings, this is the only decent possibility. IMHO
Yes, if it has KK, Bluetooth low energy, all the previous flaky bluetooth issues are fixed, speakerphone call quality is improved and my biggest issue, battery and SIM shouldn't need a screw driver to get at, make it easy, it isn't water proof and doesnt need to be
mghtymse007 said:
Just got note from my contact at Umeox that they are ready to produce a new version of SmartWatch. It takes after the general look and size of the existing x201 series, but adds some nicely upgraded features that are enticing.
As always, nothing I have is 100% confirmed... but rumors usually are typically nothing but just premature facts.
The watch will have:
1.2 - 1.4MHz dual core
Full Android KitKat 4.4
320x320 LG display, 1.54" - 1.6"
Will be branded as a Umeox
1G/8G (up to 64Gb)
US GSM, 850mhz 2G and 1900mhz 3G
Wi-Fi b/g/n
Bluetooth 4.0
GPS
5.0M Camera
720p HD video
IP68 water worthiness
OTA updates
So far, they have yet to receive enough orders to produce the first 500 units, currently short by only 100, and have asked me to post a poll and see how much interest there is for a device like this on this side of the world...
Initial reports show this watch will sell for less or the same as the TS.
So question of the day...
1. What is your interest level on a device that would have the above specifications? What would you like to see added or changed?
2. Would you buy this watch if the above specs are true, value pricing and is branded under Umeox with their support?
I'll go first...
YES and yes!!!
For me, one of my bigger complaints about my TS is the poor resolution of the screen. I think the added dpi will be extremely helpful in reading some of the smaller text in some third party apps. Also the failed waterproof design of the TS has me constantly in fear of loss doing menial H2O activities and is totally unacceptable.
Competitors or alike devices
I was looking at the Gear S due to it's beautiful curved, hi-res screen... But TIZEN....! Come on, Sammy, stop trying to become Apple and create your own ecosystem!
This has put my and my techy friend's interest in the AI Watch on the back burner and would rather have these specs. We all would very much like to see this one make it to the US market... Please give your comments.
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This is the x201 specs, except for the screen and uC. I do not see the use for a 320x320 1,6'' screen. Maybe a 320x240 2'' (same width). I do not follow 6577 instead of 6572: More power required (40nm vs 28nm) and I see low need for faster CPU.
Umeox branding is fine - the company that can just not disappear without loosing credibility.
However, the specs are OK, it could be interesting.
But the most important is in the details:
* Thickness/weight?
* Auto-focus on camera? (Why 5MP....)
* Control of kernel and Android at Umeox? Quality of drivers? Follow the GPL? Work with the community? Android updates?
* HW reliability? Real or fake IP68?
There are alternatives already. Personally, I want a sports device with barometer and preferably ANT+ too, nothing there yet.
However, I will pass on this one until the commitment to live up to the specs can be believed, the track record is not too good (I still believe Omate had good intentions).
Edit: Getting stable ROM and usable kernel source for existing x201 is one way to make me interested.
Yes
I think I would like my TS if its touchscreen was not defective. I will be trying again with some type of stand alone phone swatch. not interested in a BT dongle watch.
Interested in the PCB, components and full source code. Then build these instead;
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My interest is low, because this is the device backers should have received.
If I can trade old devices for it, I'd be happy to.
Otherwise, no. The interest is clearly there but not for what I paid at KS price for the TS1.
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I agree with you on this. I bought the Extreme Edition of the watch. If they would let me trade in my current one for, at least, some credit towards buying the new one, it would be nice.
I would be interested.... Support would be my biggest concern... The TS does everything I need it to do. I had no designs on it replacing my phone other than when running... Beyond that, it's a glorified iPod for me so it works as intended... My issue with it is that if the band breaks or it has some other problem, there's little to nothing that can be done about it. I wear it everyday and so far it's held up but I'm sure it's only a matter of time...
I can't believe that the specs are right.
MT6577 is a 40 nm CPU from 2012. Should be a very bad option for a smartwatch with small battery. Long time ago since I saw new devices with that CPU. Most of them had ICS, only a few get updated to Jellybean (4.1). I don't know any mt6577 device with Kitkat.
Other Chinese smartphone manufactures switched to other CPU to ship their devices with a more recent Android Version. I thought mt6577 was EOL.
The upgraded screen is a definite plus for me. As said before, the CPU is kind of old...if it was styled more like the Omate I'd be interested. I prefer the look of the Omate to pretty much any of the other watches based off the x201.
perpe said:
I can't believe that the specs are right.
MT6577 is a 40 nm CPU from 2012. Should be a very bad option for a smartwatch with small battery. Long time ago since I saw new devices with that CPU. Most of them had ICS, only a few get updated to Jellybean (4.1). I don't know any mt6577 device with Kitkat.
Other Chinese smartphone manufactures switched to other CPU to ship their devices with a more recent Android Version. I thought mt6577 was EOL.
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You are correct. After a quick confirmation, he was mistaken in his first spec list. The CPU is going to be:
MTK6572w
I just got the full spec sheet from Umeox. I'll check if I can post publicly.
Will change OP, thanks for heads up.
Sometimes tapa is slower than me...
speedyink said:
The upgraded screen is a definite plus for me. As said before, the CPU is kind of old...if it was styled more like the Omate I'd be interested. I prefer the look of the Omate to pretty much any of the other watches based off the x201.
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Agreed on the styling... I have had strangers ask about it because they liked the style of the Omate.
The Iron Man is the x202.
1. I would need dimension: width, height and thickness ... some are far too big and thick to wear.
2. Battery life!?
3. Loads of sensors ...barometer, compass. ..etc. with sensors it can compete with other sport watches.
4. What assurances can they give that they will keep their promise?
I mean we can all show our interest but we're not obliged to order so yes I'm interested with the same conviction as the supplier.
MT6572 - the same (or similar) processor as the InWatch Z, interesting, with MediaTek MiraVision.
Sounds relatively interesting-whether I would actually shell out hard cash is another thing altogether.
Still finding little niggles with my TS-so just a bit wary.
water resistent? Strap changeable? scratch protection? If no, there is no reason to change from my Omate and Simvalley AW420...
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So if 500 orders are made then what happens? What are the nexts steps?
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So after trying to decide between the two for myself, I've decided to try to help other like-minded users find the phone that's best for them.
If you see anything incorrect or missing, please let me know!
I'll start with the Nexus S 4G
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Will receive upgrades first
Will likely run Icecream (HC reworked for phones)
AOSP
No bloatware, and no Sprint apps
Hardware:
1GHz Hummingbird Processor
512MB RAM
4" Super AMOLED screen
16gb internal storage
NO MicroSD card slot
NFC Capability
5MP rear camera
VGA Front camera
1500 mAh Li-ion battery
GPU rated as good, if not slightly better than EVO3D's Adreno 220**
Unique Contour display*
*The contour display can best be seen here. Essentially, the display curves slightly at the ends and reviews have reported it feeling nice against your face. Aside from the feel, the SAMOLED display grants more vivid colors, more luminance, and more contrast, making text easy to read at most sizes.
**Which means the Nexus S will be able to display graphics on a similar caliber of the EVO3D, which is much higher than the EVO.
Layman's terms? Have you noticed how bad the N64 Emulator is on the EVO? It should run beautifully on the Nexus S, and even better on the EVO3D.
Media
DLNA Support for wirelessly streaming media from the phone to your TV or computer
Supported video, audio, and image formats are not known yet, but we can safely assume the standards are there.
Release date: "Spring" 2011
Price: $199 on contract
Form:
An important spec of phones to some users is also their outside form. Here's what we've got on the Nexus
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Size and weight:
63mm x 123.9mm x 10.88mm
129g
4" contour display
Feel: CNET and user reviews say it feels light, and the material feels ´lighter´without metal parts.
This will make it feel more airy, smaller, and less bulky than the current EVO, which is very similar to the EVO3D
Users have reported a 'cheapy' plastic feel to the Nexus S, similar to the Epic. Other than that, there's no decision one way or another if that could be an issue when dropping the phone.
Advice? Don't drop your phone, no matter which model. Or buy a case of some sort.
Summary:
If you end up selling your EVO for $200 (easily done), you'll be able to upgrade to this phone for free. Why would you do that? Well, it's free, and it's a hardware and, eventually, a software upgrade from the EVO. While it boasts almost the same specs as the EVO, the processor is newer and the screen displays more colors with more vibrance.
Currently, the TMO Nexus S has benchmarks that run circles around the EVO and battery life that has been reported to last ~20 hours off-charger. Sound good to you? Same to me.
The phone will definitely last you through 2011, and likely a good chunk, if not all, of 2012. I anticipate it will also be receiving Android versions 2.4 and 3.1 (If that's Ice Cream), which will be more than capable of running on this phone, even if Quad-Core phones are released and run it as well.
Aside from the hardware, the software will be top-notch. You'll receive the latest Android software updates as soon as they're released, and the dev community should be buzzing on this phone, considering its AOSP nature.
Who is this phone good for?
Economically-minded users who want a boost from their current EVO and/or want a great developing experience. If the latest and greatest Google software is your thing, this phone is for you. Keep in mind that Nexus S already runs the Honeycomb SDKs and it will be a breeze to port the AOSP Honeycomb to the Nexus S once the source is released. Further more, AOSP will finally be developing code for WiMax chips, which will help ROMs like CM in incorporating WiMax. You'll also get WiMax on CM8 (When released) first, most likely.
Additional:
Miss having an LED notification light?
Here's your solution: BLN (Back Light Notifications)
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-s-receives-bln-notifications-thanks-xda
Intro:
"How do you follow up one of the most popular, most successful, biggest and fastest phones of 2010? In the case of the recently announced Sprint HTC EVO 3D, you give it a higher resolution screen, 3D recording and playback capability, and you open up a whole new world of user generated content. Oh, and you make it even faster and more powerful."
-Source
EVO 3D
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Includes Sense 2.0 (?)
Includes Sprint Software
Hardware:
1.2 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon dual-core processor
1GB RAM (Which can be expanded* into the External Storage, giving you up to 5GB RAM, which diminishes as you fill internal storage, down to a minimum of 1GB)
1GB Internal Storage (Previous rumors stated 4GB. This still isn't clear or confirmed at all either way.)
4.3" 3D qHD Display with a resolution of 960x540
Expandable memory: 8GB microSD card included: supports up to 32GB
Dual 5 MP cameras used to capture 3D images and videos
1.3MP front-facing camera
1730 mAh Li-ion battery
HDMI port
No kickstand... Devastating, I guess?
*Much like a page file on a PC This has also been pointed out as a rumor, and is MOST LIKELY NOT TRUE
Media:
DLNA for wirelessly streaming media from the phone to your TV or computer
Audio supported formats:
Playback: .AAC, .AMR, .OGG, .M4A, .MID, .MP3, .WAV, .WMA (Windows Media Audio 9)
Recording: .AMR
Video supported formats:
Playback:.3GP, .3G2, .MP4, .WMV (Windows Media Video 9), .AVI (MP4 ASP and MP3), .XVID (MP4 ASP and MP3)
Recording: .3GP
Form:
The EVO3D is similar in look and shape to the EVO. Here's what we've got
Size and Weight:
126mm x 65mm x 12.05mm (4.96" x 2.56" x 0.47")
170 grams (6.0 ounces) with the battery
Feel:
Taken from Engadget's hands-on review:
"As we'd mentioned in our hands-on, we immediately noticed that the EVO 3D didn't feel particularly heavy or bulky in the hand; in fact, we would've guessed that it was a bit lighter than the 4G. Well, turns out they're almost exactly the same weight -- holding the two one right after the other, we couldn't detect a difference.
As for dimensions, the 4G is actually wider -- the 3D's quite a bit more manageable when you're holding it, especially if you don't have giant paws -- and they're right around the same thickness."
Price: unknown
Release date: "Summer" 2011 (June)
Summary:
If you want the latest Sprint power-phone with latest industry hardware and technology - You won't be disappointed. While there are mixed reviews and feelings about the 3D feature of the phone, it seems that 3D is completely optional and is simply an added bonus for buying this already great phone.
Battery life is undetermined right now. While it boasts an industry-leading 1730 mAh Li-ion battery and the processor is some times number more efficient than the current EVO, people speculate it to have as much batter life as the current EVO.
In short: Like your EVOs now, this phone will be fast, bold, and furious, taken to a new extreme.
EDIT: Since the question has been asked on the forums, I've done a little bit of research:
How will the EVO 3D's display hold up against iPhone 4's?
To answer it shortly, the EVO 3D has a slightly lower resolution (960x540) than the iPhone 4 (960x640). Being that the EVO3D has a larger screen and a lower resolution, this means that the PPI (pixels per inch) will be lower, resulting in a slightly less sharp display.
Who is this phone good for?
Power-users who want only the best for themselves. Want to play the latest 3D graphics-intensive games on your phone? EVO3D is for you (please don't mistake 3D graphics for 3D images)
If you buy into the 3D thing, you'll also be able to shoot and view photos and videos in 3D.
This phone has power, screen size, and speed that make it worthwhile to keep far into the future.
[reserved for side-by-side comparison and other things!]
dirkyd3rk said:
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thanks!
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They offer $150 for you to switch from them, if you buy a smart phone. Pretty nice deal!
Deal running through 4/16, but call Sprint to check.
Thanks! I already knew all of this, but it'll help some people here for sure.
Also, the Nexus S has a contour display, which you didn't mention.
Oh right, thanks! I'll add that in for sure. Don't forget to hit the thanks button if you thought it was helpful Even if not for you.
I like how this was titled, Idiot's Guide.....for idiots.
No way lmao.
Haha, thanks man.
I'm in no way an expert, I'm a slightly above-average user when it comes to knowledge of hardware and software. I'm just compiling info that I dug around for myself and ask tons of questions on --- and I'm putting it in (hopefully) layman's terms.
Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
So nexus s is a better phone the first gen Evo? I am within my 30 days so I can return my new evo and get the S, I don't want to wait for the 3D as I will be running a blackberry curve until release
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cordell12 said:
So nexus s is a better phone the first gen Evo? I am within my 30 days so I can return my new evo and get the S, I don't want to wait for the 3D as I will be running a blackberry curve until release
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I'd say so, yes.
The hardware is newer than the EVO (though still ~6 months+ old at this point).
The display also is much better
dirkyd3rk said:
Evo is only TFT and supports 16,000 colors. Nexus S is wvga super amoled and supports 16,000,000 colors LOL.
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Not to mention the Software upgrades you'll get with the Nexus. And that's just stock software. Devs will be all over optimizing the software.
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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gmap516 said:
Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
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No please don't.
phatmanxxl said:
No please don't.
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Noted. Thanks for the feedback.
dirkyd3rk said:
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I quoted this and added it to the third post. Thanks bud!
gmap516 said:
Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
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Yeah just direct them to the vid it shows all they need to know since qhd and retina are pretty much the same. LOL
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Im so sick of the iphone presumably being the "standard" of all smartphones.
I am sick of it too! Everything is compared to Iphone, iphone is lame. Maybe its good for people who dont know any better, lol.
I took a long look at nexus s, it may be a bit better than evo 1st gen but I dont care for the look of it. The plastic back, reminds me of the Epic, feels cheap in the hand
You forgot to mention that the gpu in the nexus is actually just as powerful as the adreno 220 if not a little better
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Im so sick of the iphone presumably being the "standard" of all smartphones.
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I mean in 2007 they did set the bar for smartphone (touchscreens) but that might just be someones opinion :rolls eyes: Hate it or love it these companies all make their next moves based on apple. That means apple has the market by the balls. I'm not a fan boy but I speak the truth young Jedi.
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You forgot to mention that the gpu in the nexus is actually just as powerful as the adreno 220 if not a little better
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Being that this is an idiot's guide for idiots, you'll have to explain that to me and put it in layman's terms. I know what a GPU is, but not what the Adreno 220
dirkyd3rk said:
I mean in 2007 they did set the bar for smartphone (touchscreens) but that might just be someones opinion :rolls eyes: Hate it or love it these companies all make their next moves based on apple. That means apple has the market by the balls. I'm not a fan boy but I speak the truth young Jedi.
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The truth indeed.
http://www.slashgear.com/acer-iconia-tab-a510-tipped-to-hit-europe-in-march-14213354/
Interesting if this story holds true... MWC should be interesting with all the tablet announcements.
Iconia Tab a510 for roughly the same price as Prime...
HTC Quattro/Vertigo/whatever it is called now.... rumored to be released in March
& iPad 2S or iPad 3 from Apple...
All due for March... or at least based on speculation/rumor/media report..
As far as the unreleased competition goes, I still think the Prime (when non-defunct) is rather superior to all of the hopeful alternatives. Even if they don't turn out to be, there is no excitement.
In my mind the prime will be superior because of the dock. Until someone creates another tablet that can out perform the TFP and has the same or better dock, the TFP will be better.
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As far as the unreleased competition goes, I still think the Prime (when non-defunct) is rather superior to all of the hopeful alternatives. Even if they don't turn out to be, there is no excitement.
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In my mind the prime will be superior because of the dock. Until someone creates another tablet that can out perform the TFP and has the same or better dock, the TFP will be better.
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I agree. That Acer, although has tegra3, is lower spec in other aspects like cam, etc... The only other tablet that's gonna make some noise or have hype around it ipad2s or ipad3. For some reason I have a feeling new Ipad going to keep same chipset as in ipad2 but have higher Res. Display and maybe 1Gb of Ram. Apple good for only upgrading chipset every other release. All other tablets won't really have no hype around them like the Prime did. Other than new Ipad of course.
Might as well wait though. Tegra4 will be out after summertime or fall. Specs on Tegra4/Wayne chipset is beast.
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I agree. That Acer, although has tegra3, is lower spec in other aspects like cam, etc... The only other tablet that's gonna make some noise or have hype around it ipad2s or ipad3. For some reason I have a feeling new Ipad going to keep same chipset as in ipad2 but have higher Res. Display and maybe 1Gb of Ram. Apple good for only upgrading chipset every other release. All other tablets won't really have no hype around them like the Prime did. Other than new Ipad of course.
Might as well wait though. Tegra4 will be out after summertime or fall. Specs on Tegra4/Wayne chipset is beast.
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It's an alternative to those who do not want to deal with Prime's current issue (not that it's guaranteed that those upcoming tablets won't have any issue either)... Also, with the Iconia Tab.. excluding the "dock" feature & and Camera... everything else seems to be on par with Prime or better (higher display, slot for SIM card.. and etc).
Just a choice, or possible choice to those who are looking elsewhere...
Also, where are you getting this info on Tegra 4/Wayne being released after summer or fall? Based on few of my reading (such as Anandtech).. that 28nm quad-core from Nvidia seems destined for late this yr (at the earliest) or early next yr...
Based on Nvidia's history with Tegra 3 (which was due last summer/fall).. I'm going to guess that it won't be ready til next year...
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It's an alternative to those who do not want to deal with Prime's current issue (not that it's guaranteed that those upcoming tablets won't have any issue either)... Also, with the Iconia Tab.. excluding the "dock" feature & and Camera... everything else seems to be on par with Prime or better (higher display, slot for SIM card.. and etc).
Just a choice, or possible choice to those who are looking elsewhere...
Also, where are you getting this info on Tegra 4/Wayne being released after summer or fall? Based on few of my reading (such as Anandtech).. that 28nm quad-core from Nvidia seems destined for late this yr (at the earliest) or early next yr...
Based on Nvidia's history with Tegra 3 (which was due last summer/fall).. I'm going to guess that it won't be ready til next year...
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Yeah its like Q3/4 at the earliest for tegra4. With tegra3 being out before 2012 , there's a good chance we could see tegra4 device announce in fall and maybe a Christmas time release. I read some article talking about Nvidia getting things ready with it or ready to ramp up production of it. Ill try to find article n link it or post it.
Nothing wrong with alternatives. I'd go with Acer tegra3 over Lenovo one. Lenovo tablets never have any developer support and they are super slow in releasing firmware updates to latest releases. At least with Acer, they have support n have been recently releasing updates more often. I think their new A200 has ICS rolling out for it now. To the same version we have, 4.03. I thought that article you linked said new Acer has 1280x720 display. Primes is 1280x800. So they basically the same.
Did you hear about the latest news of how U.S. approved the acquisition of Motorola by Google? One more step and its a done deal. By this happening, Google will finally be in the hardware manufacturing sector now. Who knows what ingenious tablet they might concoct then. A Nexus tablet created and manufactured by Google themselves, since they will own Motorola, is seeming more n more like reality.
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Yeah its like Q3/4 at the earliest for tegra4. With tegra3 being out before 2012 , there's a good chance we could see tegra4 device announce in fall and maybe a Christmas time release. I read some article talking about Nvidia getting things ready with it or ready to ramp up production of it. Ill try to find article n link it or post it.
Nothing wrong with alternatives. I'd go with Acer tegra3 over Lenovo one. Lenovo tablets never have any developer support and they are super slow in releasing firmware updates to latest releases. At least with Acer, they have support n have been recently releasing updates more often. I think their new A200 has ICS rolling out for it now. To the same version we have, 4.03. I thought that article you linked said new Acer has 1280x720 display. Primes is 1280x800. So they basically the same.
Did you hear about the latest news of how U.S. approved the acquisition of Motorola by Google? One more step and its a done deal. By this happening, Google will finally be in the hardware manufacturing sector now. Who knows what ingenious tablet they might concoct then. A Nexus tablet created and manufactured by Google themselves, since they will own Motorola, is seeming more n more like reality.
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That article doesn't mention anything about resolution.. but from earlier reports & at CES.. it had 1920x1200. It does have 10.1 in display like Prime though.
Google's acquisition of Motorola doesn't interest me much. Not only is Google new & inexperienced in hardware division but you'll see some serious displeasure from other OEM (such as Samsung) if they were to "favor" Motorola... & create Google phone/tablets.
Granted I have my doubts on Win 8 (even as win dev.), if Google were to favor Motorola over other OEM, that'll certainly fuel & help OEMs switch their focus to Win 8 (heck, majority of them are paying MS already anyways for all the android devices they sell... they might as well just make the full switch & support Win 8 over Android instead).
demandarin said:
The only other tablet that's gonna make some noise or have hype around it ipad2s or ipad3. For some reason I have a feeling new Ipad going to keep same chipset as in ipad2 but have higher Res. Display and maybe 1Gb of Ram. Apple good for only upgrading chipset every other release. All other tablets won't really have no hype around them like the Prime did. Other than new Ipad of course.
Might as well wait though. Tegra4 will be out after summertime or fall. Specs on Tegra4/Wayne chipset is beast.
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I thought that the ipad3 was going towards A6 which is equivalent to the quad core? Or was that the iphone5?
junrider said:
I thought that the ipad3 was going towards A6 which is equivalent to the quad core? Or was that the iphone5?
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We don't know anything about Apple's next tablet. Everything up to this point has been RUMORS and speculation. The only "concrete" rumor that I have seem so far is the leaked picture of iOS being ready for quad-core. Btw, A6 is quad-core that is on 28nm (Tegra 3 is 40nm). Although, according to this link: http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/08...e+(MacRumors+iPhone+Blog:+iOS+News+and+Rumors)
it could be dual-core as well. Either way, everything about Apple's next-gen products are nothing but rumors until their press event.
We'll find more about Apple's next-gen tablet in March.
I refuse to buy any Android phone other than a Nexus. I had the Nexus One, Nexus S, and imported the Galaxy Nexus. My experience with the Prime has reaffirmed my decision to go Nexus only. My plan is to stick it out with the Prime for a while until Google hopefully decides to release a Nexus tablet. If that doesn't happen, I'll have a lot of thinking to do re: my next tablet. These companies just can't be trusted - they just seem to churn out as many Android devices as they can and don't care about the quality of their products. At least Google stands behind the Nexus devices.
wow, if you thought asus was bad at making hardware, wait until you get a load of acer. out of the frying pan and into the fire...
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I refuse to buy any Android phone other than a Nexus. I had the Nexus One, Nexus S, and imported the Galaxy Nexus. My experience with the Prime has reaffirmed my decision to go Nexus only. My plan is to stick it out with the Prime for a while until Google hopefully decides to release a Nexus tablet. If that doesn't happen, I'll have a lot of thinking to do re: my next tablet. These companies just can't be trusted - they just seem to churn out as many Android devices as they can and don't care about the quality of their products. At least Google stands behind the Nexus devices.
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nexus had its own hefty shares of issues also. no device is perfect or issue free. The latest nexus had tons of issues itself. no device is perfect. not even apple Ipad or iphone.
demandarin said:
nexus had its own hefty shares of issues also. no device is perfect or issue free. The latest nexus had tons of issues itself. no device is perfect. not even apple Ipad or iphone.
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Must you play the fanboi at every turn? It quickly becomes tiresome.
Five percent (5%) is the industry standard failure rate for consumer electronics. Failure rate, conservatively estimated, is closer to 30%.
No device is perfect, however some are "good enough". And others, as we have seen, are not. Now let it drop lest the constant bickering derail this thread as it has so many others.
demandarin said:
nexus had its own hefty shares of issues also. no device is perfect or issue free. The latest nexus had tons of issues itself. no device is perfect. not even apple Ipad or iphone.
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The few issues on the Galaxy Nexus (actually, I can only think of one that affected users overseas due to certain cell phone frequencies), were quickly and effectively addressed with an update. That's more than can be said for the numerous Prime problems.
hmm, two things.
1. the galaxy nexus is a samsung device, not a google device. samsung designed the hardware, samsung manufactures it. google collaborated with them on the requirements and design trade-offs and then prioritized gnexus hardware for the first round of ICS support. it is unsurprising that the overall quality and occurrence of issues on the gnexus is on par with samsung's other phones, which is to say, very low. but the special thing about nexus devices is not the hardware, it's the software, with google pushing out updates directly.
2. if you are looking for a tf201+dock alternative then i would keep an eye on the upcoming Lenovo IdeaPad S2. it will be released in Q2/Q3, probably around the same time as asus' TF700T. lenovo has a MUCH better track record of manufacturing quality than either asus or acer and hopefully this will continue with the S2. as far as features go, the S2 is essentially a tf201+dock clone with some minor variation in specs. perhaps the biggest concern is that lenovo looks to be modifying their version of android much more than asus has, and this is rarely a good thing. one of the many tech blog articles about the S2 is here:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/8/26...b-s2-a-10-1-inch-dual-core-android-4-0-tablet
nyijedi said:
I refuse to buy any Android phone other than a Nexus. I had the Nexus One, Nexus S, and imported the Galaxy Nexus. My experience with the Prime has reaffirmed my decision to go Nexus only. My plan is to stick it out with the Prime for a while until Google hopefully decides to release a Nexus tablet. If that doesn't happen, I'll have a lot of thinking to do re: my next tablet. These companies just can't be trusted - they just seem to churn out as many Android devices as they can and don't care about the quality of their products. At least Google stands behind the Nexus devices.
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I don't think the nexus has any better support. The difference is they are so open that the developer community can fix the software side of things which seems to be the biggest issue with Android for the most part. I am with you and only buy Nexus phones. I would buy a nexus tablet if it was available but hope that with an unlocked bootloader the Prime can be a close second eventually.
Even though we haven't heard a lot about it, the HTC Vertex (formerly Quattro) may be the next quad-core released. March-ish is the rumor. HTC's holding a press conference on the 27th at MWC to announced a bunch of devices. I had a Jetstream for a while and it was incredibly well built. Sense and all of its widgets were pretty cool in tablet form too.
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HTC to focus on quad-core tablet PCs and smartphones in 2012
Daniel Shen, Taipei; Steve Shen, DIGITIMES [Monday 21 November 2011]
HTC will focus on the production of quad-core tablet PCs and smartphones in the first half of 2012 competing with comparable devices to be released by rivals including Asustek Computer, Acer, Samsung Electronics and Lenovo, according to industry sources.
Competition for the quad-core chip segment among Qualcomm, Nvidia and Texas Instruments is heating up competition in the quad-core device sector, the sources noted.
While Asustek will spearhead the production of quad-core tablet PCs in December 2011, HTC will be a strong contender in the segment by releasing its first quad-core tablet, the HTC Quattro, in March 2012 at the earliest, the sources revealed.
The 10.1-inch Quattro will be powered a Nvidia Tegra 3 CPU and supports HTC Scribe, Beats audio, 3.5G/Wi-Fi, and HTC and Dropbox cloud services, according to smartphone blog pocketnow.com.
The pocketnow.com website also noted that the initial Nvidia quad-core lineups will also include the HTC Edge smartphone. The Edge will be also powered by an Nvidia 1.5GHz Tegra 3 CPU and come with a 4.7-inch display, 8-megapixel camera and 32GB memory, and supports HTC Sense 4.0 interface, HTC Watch, HTC Listen, HTC Read and HTC Play, stated a post on the pocketnow.com website.
HTC is also developing another quad-core smartphone, the HTC Zeta, which will be powered by a Qualcomm 2.5GHz CPU and equipped with a 4.5-inch display, 8-megapixel camera as well as Beats, HTC Sense 4.0 and complete cloud content, according to technology site engadget.
Editor's note: This article has been updated to properly attribute the information sources.
jaypm said:
hmm, two things.
1. the galaxy nexus is a samsung device, not a google device. samsung designed the hardware, samsung manufactures it. google collaborated with them on the requirements and design trade-offs and then prioritized gnexus hardware for the first round of ICS support. it is unsurprising that the overall quality and occurrence of issues on the gnexus is on par with samsung's other phones, which is to say, very low. but the special thing about nexus devices is not the hardware, it's the software, with google pushing out updates directly.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/8/26...b-s2-a-10-1-inch-dual-core-android-4-0-tablet
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Samsung does the actual manufacturing, but the phone is designed with input from Google. There's an official video from Google on Youtube that talks about this process.
More importantly -- and you touched on this issue -- the software and updates are done by Google, and they seem to do this very competently, unlike Asus (see their .13 update that screwed up a bunch of Primes, mine included).
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That article doesn't mention anything about resolution.. but from earlier reports & at CES.. it had 1920x1200. It does have 10.1 in display like Prime though.
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Technically the A5xx series has 1280x800 and the A7xx has 1920x1200. I was at CES and played with the A510 and it was a very nice and smooth device. Not as sleek looking as the Prime but it has a plastic back so it has a high chance of having better wifi, gps. Possibly not have any wifi+BT issue either (my acer a100 doesnt seem to have it). Also has micro usb/charger port in 1. So no need for proprietary Asus usb cable. I'm not sure what to call the charging connector though cause it looks like a micro usb but has a slight tab on the center. It's not MHL for sure. I forgot though if it had a full USB on the side. Need to check the rest of my pictures on my phone.
So for anyone not really into using a kb dock then this is a very competitive device against the Prime. As far as rear camera goes I'm not sure everyone uses it or at least I don't care for it as I have my phone camera thats easier to hold for taking pictures. So having one in the 1st place is just a plus. Posted some pics here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451699
Col.Kernel said:
Must you play the fanboi at every turn? It quickly becomes tiresome.
Five percent (5%) is the industry standard failure rate for consumer electronics. Failure rate, conservatively estimated, is closer to 30%.
No device is perfect, however some are "good enough". And others, as we have seen, are not. Now let it drop lest the constant bickering derail this thread as it has so many others.
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its the truth..lol wasn't even comparing it to prime. Justba fact of technology. he made it seem google nexus is flawless, which its not. so I made my point already I didn't even mention prime so stop assuming. makes an ass of u and me. Ass U me lol
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http://eee.asus.com/global/event/2012/mwc/launch/
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-infinity/features/
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-300/features/
Networking Wifi/3G/4G LTE
Data rate:
a. 3G SKU: HSPA+ 21/5.76 Mbps
b. 4G LTE SKU: 100/50 Mbps
That's interesting. I didn't know Asus was releasing 3G/4G version for Transformer Pad 300....
Now, if Pad 300 has 3G/4G with Tegra 3.. I wonder why they opted for S4 Snapdragon for TF700/Infinity 3G/4G version.
And that blue one is really uglly....
It's a shame.. this is what PRIME should have been (at least to me.. not the TF700)
I still don't understand the 1.2ghz Tegra 3 ...
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Now, if Pad 300 has 3G/4G with Tegra 3.. I wonder why they opted for S4 Snapdragon for TF700/Infinity 3G/4G version.
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Could be timing, if they're planning on releasing the TF700 much sooner than the TF300. If I'm not mistaken, the Tegra 3-compatible LTE chip has just been announced and might not be available for awhile.
Of course, that would argue for the TF700 being released much sooner than expected. Hmmm...
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Could be timing, if they're planning on releasing the TF700 much sooner than the TF300. If I'm not mistaken, the Tegra 3-compatible LTE chip has just been announced and might not be available for awhile.
Of course, that would argue for the TF700 being released much sooner than expected. Hmmm...
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You know what else is interesting.. their insistence on "FIRST"...
Wonder how they'll change the slogan if Apple releases 4G version of iPad 3 with its crazy retina resolution next month....
I'm also guessing "Transformer Pad," being more descriptive, gets them out of hot water with Hasbro.
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I'm also guessing "Transformer Pad," being more descriptive, gets them out of hot water with Hasbro.
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Did they rename Transformer Prime to Transformer Pad?
Just saw it
And I HATE them for displaying the back cover I want for my Prime, LOL. The Infinity IS the TF700 by the way (I know YOU know it Barry) but boy, my kingdom for a strip of plastic, not that they made it with the Brushed Look (and yes I can see the volume rocker or whatever up top, but that is on the bezel... seems like it just might work!
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Now, if Pad 300 has 3G/4G with Tegra 3.. I wonder why they opted for S4 Snapdragon for TF700/Infinity 3G/4G version.
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The Tegra 3 is not compatible with USA LTE networks for some reason. And the 1.2 Ghz bit is probably for Tegra 3's that are not full quality - I believe Intel used to play that with Processors that would get too hot at full speeds for some manufacturing reason.
No GPS ? WTF?
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Did they rename Transformer Prime to Transformer Pad?
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not really. its actually now called the "Transformer Pad Prime". the other thread that has Asus MWC showcase video has it listed in his power point presentation. ill post it here in a sec so people can see for "Factual" reasons
here is the video:
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No GPS ? WTF?
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I guess they got tired of the complaining n said? !#&? it. lmfao they won't get any GPS at all in new models. smart move on their part. so they don't have to deal with it all. plus its not. spec requirement and will hardly influence sales in grand scheme of things. it isn't even listed on their official website as a spec.
it does have Bluetooth 4.0LE though time to use phone as external Gps receiver or use a BT GPS receiver. using phone as a GPS receiver on prime works great. so of there's no GPS in it, then it will never be proven if GPS was improved in this model. I think the strip is really for the LTE connection and nothing more really. no recent references to strip being used to improving wifi. I wonder if wifi version has that strip there also. will need to see side by side pix of LTE and wifi version side by side to compare.
just checked both models out again. the Tf-300 and Tf-700 doesn't have GPS at all. not listed on their spec page. the irony..lol. I bet anything that if there wasn't such an outrage over GPS they would've included GPS in these new models. So now Asus making sure there can be no complaint at all about it in the new models. at least its a good guess to say the Padaphone will have GPS since its a phone and had data connection to it. Asus playing smart. Makes even more sense now Prime line won't be discontinued. there is no new model to improve on GPS. so prime will be only model that still has GPS. whether it works up to some peoples requirements or not.
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Now, if Pad 300 has 3G/4G with Tegra 3.. I wonder why they opted for S4 Snapdragon for TF700/Infinity 3G/4G version. I still don't understand the 1.2ghz Tegra 3 ...
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simple, asus wants performance and features to increase correspondingly with price. so the stacking of models from slowest/cheapest to fastest/priciest will go like this:
TF300 Tegra3 @ 1.2ghz
TF300 Tegra3 @ 1.2ghz + 3G/LTE
TF700 Tegra3 @ 1.6ghz
TF700 Krait @ 1.5ghz + 3G/LTE
for the krait vs. tegra3 speculators, i doubt asus would make this decision if they hadn't already verified internally that krait @ 1.5ghz is outperforming tegra3 @ 1.6ghz.
jaypm said:
simple, asus wants performance and features to increase correspondingly with price. so the stacking of models from slowest/cheapest to fastest/priciest will go like this:
TF300 Tegra3 @ 1.2ghz
TF300 Tegra3 @ 1.2ghz + 3G/LTE
TF700 Tegra3 @ 1.6ghz
TF700 Krait @ 1.5ghz + 3G/LTE
for the krait vs. tegra3 speculators, i doubt asus would make this decision if they hadn't already verified internally that krait @ 1.5ghz is outperforming tegra3 @ 1.6ghz.
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True, but if you compare Prime and Pad 300... It doesn't make sense at all to me. From 1.3 ghz to 1.2ghz... (& I'm sorry Demandrin.. but extra 100mhz simply does not make Prime PREMIUM)
Anyways, I finally saw the whole video. Johny Shih is certainly a character but absolutely annoying...
I do find it interesting that he was marketing snapdragon s4 as the "MOST ADVANCED" when he was introducing TF700 Infinity & the Padphone. Hardly any mention of Tegra 3... (the whole Asus is or will be the 1st also got on my nerves).
But yea, Padphone is certainly interesting & innovative. However, I wonder what the market will be for this product... Just think about the cost that'll come with Padphone... phone + tablet shell/case + dock + stylus pen.... Not only that but the annoyance that'll come with carrying multiple device
If Padphone were to be released to business sector, I certainly see a huge profit potential for Asus.. but last I checked, Asus hardly has any market share in that area... On top of that, if Asus inserts native support of Canonical's recently announced Ubuntu...
Oh well, either way.. I wonder how it'll do with avg. consumers... feels like it'll be more or less gimmick or collectors item.
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True, but if you compare Prime and Pad 300... It doesn't make sense at all to me. From 1.3 ghz to 1.2ghz... (& I'm sorry Demandrin.. but extra 100mhz simply does not make Prime PREMIUM)
Anyways, I finally saw the whole video. Johny Shih is certainly a character but absolutely annoying...
I do find it interesting that he was marketing snapdragon s4 as the "MOST ADVANCED" when he was introducing TF700 Infinity & the Padphone. Hardly any mention of Tegra 3... (the whole Asus is or will be the 1st also got on my nerves).
But yea, Padphone is certainly interesting & innovative. However, I wonder what the market will be for this product... Just think about the cost that'll come with Padphone... phone + tablet shell/case + dock + stylus pen.... Not only that but the annoyance that'll come with carrying multiple device
If Padphone were to be released to business sector, I certainly see a huge profit potential for Asus.. but last I checked, Asus hardly has any market share in that area... On top of that, if Asus inserts native support of Canonical's recently announced Ubuntu...
Oh well, either way.. I wonder how it'll do with avg. consumers... feels like it'll be more or less gimmick or collectors item.
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what makes prime Premium is the:
1)slimmer and lighter form factor
2)higher quality display with "SuperIPS+" being the brightest in industry
3)more out the box storage memory starting @ 32gb & 64gb
4)Flash to accompany its cam. will make a huge difference in taking pictures or videos in low or no light. plenty of people using the cam on it as it has the best in industry cam also. other models have cam also but the 300 has no flash
5)better battery life and out the box higher clocked speeds. Out of all models. the Prime actually has the best/longest tablet battery life and combined dock life. remember xda users are a grain of salt compared to total sales. avg. consumer will see higher spec, and if interested, will go for the higher one if they choose to spend the money. that's the great thing about choice.
regardless, all their new models look great. very ironic how they removed GPS from spec from both new models. not even listed on official spec page. they washed their hands of GPS not to deal with it, I guess. padaphone will likely have though.
oh, and its not just any old Stylus. this is a stylus headset. a first in mobile tech. you can answer the phone with stylus since it has a built in mic and earpiece reciever.
Ill say this though, in hope for people who like GPS. if Asus does include GPS as a "surprise bonus feature" feel lucky. but since no trace of it at all in specs, its nothing that can be sent in for warranty service since its not even a listed feature out the gate. lets hope if they do include it, although its not listed, it works well. cause of it doesn't, you're basically out back. so cross your fingers n hope they include it as a surprise bonus feature
So, just to be clear, the "Infinity" is for sure the TF700?
Rogue100 said:
So, just to be clear, the "Infinity" is for sure the TF700?
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yes but its more like a new line of products. HD line with higher resolution. its still the TF-700 over anything. Prime is now called The "Transformer Pad Prime".
I think they'll include it (not list it mind you) and it will work mostly fine. But they're not about to test these any more rigorously or anything, they'll keep it off the spec sheet, "rush" the products out after a delay (oxymorons are awesome), and then not have to worry about cleaning up when some of them still experience issues.
Pretty much like you said, but I'm not too optimistic so I'm just going to lean this one way.
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I think they'll include it (not list it mind you) and it will work mostly fine. But they're not about to test these any more rigorously or anything, they'll keep it off the spec sheet, "rush" the products out after a delay (oxymorons are awesome), and then not have to worry about cleaning up when some of them still experience issues.
Pretty much like you said, but I'm not too optimistic so I'm just going to lean this one way.
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that made me laugh but really is a possibility. I hope it turns out good. I can't get over that 3-1 padaphone with the stylus headset that can answer phone calls. I see why they won Best Innovation of the year award. I'm really interested in it but wonder the cost of all of it. will the phone at least come with tablet display? or will everything have to be purchased separately? if separately, they really about to cake it up. I easily see this phone being a success. especially being the worlds first quad core LTE phone. the tegra3 in that device screams power!
First post and I can't post the link but netbooknews.com has a hands on vid with the 300 at MWC and gets a shot of the specs list
if you look at the vid at 0:32 he zooms in on the specs sheet. You can see that it says GPS is supported. I'm sure it's the same for the 700 as well.
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that made me laugh but really is a possibility. I hope it turns out good. I can't get over that 3-1 padaphone with the stylus headset that can answer phone calls. I see why they won Best Innovation of the year award. I'm really interested in it but wonder the cost of all of it. will the phone at least come with tablet display? or will everything have to be purchased separately? if separately, they really about to cake it up. I easily see this phone being a success. especially being the worlds first quad core LTE phone. the tegra3 in that device screams power!
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Seriously.. what are you reading or where are you getting your information? Even in the video that you linked me, Johny Shih mentions nothing about Tegra 3 with Padfone...
Padfone comes with Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 8260A Dual-Core 1.5 GHz
If you don't believe me.. here is the link to Asus:
http://www.asus.com/Mobile/PadFone/#specifications
Anyways, it's def. creative and innovative device. However, I just don't see a huge market for it because.. well..
1.) Price...
2.) Will be up against Galaxy Note... it'll be interesting how it does against Galaxy Note due to...
3.) Form factor.. it's cool that it has 3 "transformation" but that also means it'll be just as annoying when Galaxy Note simply provides "all-in-one" device.
shinzz said:
Seriously.. what are you reading or where are you getting your information? Even in the video that you linked me, Johny Shih mentions nothing about Tegra 3 with Padfone...
Padfone comes with Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 8260A Dual-Core 1.5 GHz
If you don't believe me.. here is the link to Asus:
http://www.asus.com/Mobile/PadFone/#specifications
Anyways, it's def. creative and innovative device. However, I just don't see a huge market for it because.. well..
1.) Price...
2.) Will be up against Galaxy Note... it'll be interesting how it does against Galaxy Note due to...
3.) Form factor.. it's cool that it has 3 "transformation" but that also means it'll be just as annoying when Galaxy Note simply provides "all-in-one" device.
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you right on that...chalk it up as a typo. a powerful device regardless.
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First post and I can't post the link but netbooknews.com has a hands on vid with the 300 at MWC and gets a shot of the specs list
if you look at the vid at 0:32 he zooms in on the specs sheet. You can see that it says GPS is supported. I'm sure it's the same for the 700 as well.
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even if true, thing is Asus own official site doesn't list it. so Asus own spec sheet on their web site trumps anyother spec sheet.
demandarin said:
I guess they got tired of the complaining n said? !#&? it. lmfao they won't get any GPS at all in new models. smart move on their part. so they don't have to deal with it all. plus its not. spec requirement and will hardly influence sales in grand scheme of things. it isn't even listed on their official website as a spec.
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Smart move? No, it is a p**** move to leave out GPS. It's the easy route to get out of giving the most basic functionality even the cheapest most pathetic low end smart phones have - and tablets mind you. They are so advanced.. and fail at GPS.
If anything, no GPS is pathetic. It is f***** 2012, are you kidding?
Other aluminum back phones and tablets are coming, they solved it. In my book, you loose a lot of credability to talk all this smack about how great and advanced you are as a company... and leave off & hide from basic years old technology. If they can't "deal with it" I question a lot about who they are and what they are capable of.
I've pledged for developers edition, this looks fantastic, tethered or standalone.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/omate/omate-truesmart-water-resistant-standalone-smartwa
SPECIFICATIONS:
Dual Core Cortex A7 – 1.3GHz
Omate UI 1.0 / Android 4.2.2
1.54’’ TFT by LG display (240 x 240) 238 PPI
Multi-touch Capacitive Touch Screen
Connectivity capabilities:
+ 2G GSM: GPRS class 12 EDGE Multi-Slot Class 12
+ 3G WCDMA: HSPA 7.2Mbps/5.76Mbps
+ WiFi: IEEE 802.11b/g/n
+ Bluetooth 4.0
GPS
Embedded 5Mpixel camera
Audio Speaker & Microphone
Memory: 512MB + 4GB + (expandable by microSD 8/16/32GB) 1GB ram as extra $20 upgrade
Micro SIM card
600 mAh battery: up to 100 hours standby time
Messaging Hub: SMS/MMS/Email/SNS
G-sensor, E-Compass, Gyroscope, IP67
Vibration alert
Full set of pre-qualified Android applications, Playstore soon i hope!
Over-the-Air (OTA) system firmware update
The TS Guide:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510696
mcteague said:
I've pledged for developers edition, this looks fantastic, tethered or standalone.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/omate/omate-truesmart-water-resistant-standalone-smartwa
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It looks awesome! The only thing I see that I don't like is the battery. "Up to 100 hours standby time" is only 4 days without any use at all... so more than likely, it'll be a "charge every day" appliance, again.
ClearD said:
It looks awesome! The only thing I see that I don't like is the battery. "Up to 100 hours standby time" is only 4 days without any use at all... so more than likely, it'll be a "charge every day" appliance, again.
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Yeah the jury is still out on that one, good thing is they're taking suggestions on for final design. I drive a van all day so handsfree answering etc is great and when I'm delivering shopping to the 17th floor it's great to have a phone with me. Only time will tell but funding is going great.
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Looks promising. Someone sbould compare it to the Neptune pine. I am convinced that I want a standalone smartwatch not one tethered
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Looks promising. Someone sbould compare it to the Neptune pine. I am convinced that I want a standalone smartwatch not one tethered
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I'll add both to my smartwatch comparison website when they officially release, with all the specs and stuff.
My thing is they are evading any question about the thickness, which means it will probably be THICK. Their videos seem to confirm that.
This looks very promising. Videos of physical units is great, I believe they are good on their promise. At $200, sure, I've backed a developers unit. I'll report back in October =P
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Looks promising. Someone sbould compare it to the Neptune pine. I am convinced that I want a standalone smartwatch not one tethered
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I think IP67 certification is main difference and jellybean over ICS. But Neptune 's got an extra 1inch on screen size.
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I have pledged to developer Edition too and hope that are the preloaded apps from the basic edition are available for the development edition over the website or omate appshop.
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More info in first post would be useful.
Like my thread here:
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic...ew-omate-truesmart-smartwatch-20-kickstarter/
You can copy mine if you want.
LOL
All I have to say is smile
Delano.888 said:
More info in first post would be useful.
Like my thread here:
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic...ew-omate-truesmart-smartwatch-20-kickstarter/
You can copy mine if you want.
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Just to reply to your question in that other thread (makes no sense for me to register in there just for that) - why Pebble got 10M while Omate only at 350k? Pebble was an early bird and had a great marketing. I personally use MetaWatch (STRATA and FRAME) and can't imagine going through a day without a smart watch since my Note 2 stays in my pocket and I get all my notifications right on my wrist (thanks to Augments Pro app), I never miss calls anymore, I can control my UE Boom speaker while in the pool under water from my watch, and so on MetaWatch was one of the first out of the door, but poor marketing and software support brought it down. On the other hand Pebble had a brilliant marketing technique, raised a lot of money, sold a lot of units which enables them to hire more software developers or enjoy benefits of free apps developed by others. What came next? Agent SmartWatch (wireless charging), Kreyos Meteor (gesture control), HOT Smartwatch (talking by placing your hand to your ear), and so on. Now market is saturated with all kinds of smartwatches, people are getting confused. Oh, and on top of that - on Sept 4th Samsung will announce Gear (and that is confirmed by Samsung, also with Note 3 introduction). Plus, quite possible on Sept 10th Apple could announce iWatch.
Omate kickstarter campaign has a very bad timing being right in the middle of all these smartwatch announcements. Plain and simple. Especially anticipation of Samsung Gear which took away a lot of momentum from Omate.
But with all that said, I think the idea of Omate is fantastic. There is no room for a phone when you go to the gym or biking or active outdoors. That would be a perfect solution to take out sim card from your phone and load into a watch while leaving my Note 2 at home. Or continue using it tethered at work where it will function as a regular smart watch.
One thing I'm confused, on their kickstarter page they say "3G mono" while you have it listed in your post as 3G CDMA. I'm on Verizon, and do need CDMA. Hopefully it will support it.
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Just to reply to your question in that other thread (makes no sense for me to register in there just for that) - why Pebble got 10M while Omate only at 350k? Pebble was an early bird and had a great marketing. I personally use MetaWatch (STRATA and FRAME) and can't imagine going through a day without a smart watch since my Note 2 stays in my pocket and I get all my notifications right on my wrist (thanks to Augments Pro app), I never miss calls anymore, I can control my UE Boom speaker while in the pool under water from my watch, and so on MetaWatch was one of the first out of the door, but poor marketing and software support brought it down. On the other hand Pebble had a brilliant marketing technique, raised a lot of money, sold a lot of units which enables them to hire more software developers or enjoy benefits of free apps developed by others. What came next? Agent SmartWatch (wireless charging), Kreyos Meteor (gesture control), HOT Smartwatch (talking by placing your hand to your ear), and so on. Now market is saturated with all kinds of smartwatches, people are getting confused. Oh, and on top of that - on Sept 4th Samsung will announce Gear (and that is confirmed by Samsung, also with Note 3 introduction). Plus, quite possible on Sept 10th Apple could announce iWatch.
Omate kickstarter campaign has a very bad timing being right in the middle of all these smartwatch announcements. Plain and simple. Especially anticipation of Samsung Gear which took away a lot of momentum from Omate.
But with all that said, I think the idea of Omate is fantastic. There is no room for a phone when you go to the gym or biking or active outdoors. That would be a perfect solution to take out sim card from your phone and load into a watch while leaving my Note 2 at home. Or continue using it tethered at work where it will function as a regular smart watch.
One thing I'm confused, on their kickstarter page they say "3G mono" while you have it listed in your post as 3G CDMA. I'm on Verizon, and do need CDMA. Hopefully it will support it.
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I have 2 numbers but only change them about when I'm nrarlyvout of mobile data, but this watch means I can use both at the sometime using watch for emailing, texting and calls and my Z Ultra for gaming reading etc.
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I am drooling for this watch.
But i hope they change the design. Like the motoactv i'd like a detachable watch face for bike mounts, arm strap etc.
The 3G CDMA is a real spec? Most of the newer smartwatches seem to support GSM.
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The 3G CDMA is a real spec? Most of the newer smartwatches seem to support GSM.
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Just had to Google that as you got me worried but found out 3G is part of CDMA. phew!
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Update:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ter-resistant-standalone-smartwa/posts/581467
The specs in the OP are all GSM, from what I can see. 3G is not just CDMA.
Backed the Dev version.
Received the flashing tool, drivers, and a SN Write Tool earlier today, Which also included an NDA Agreement.
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Backed the Dev version.
Received the flashing tool, drivers, and a SN Write Tool earlier today, Which also included an NDA Agreement.
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That's cool let the developing begin!
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Hi,
I just ordered THL W8S from a online shopping site. I just want to know whether it is a good bargain or not. I mean is phone good enough (Not good as Samsung and iphone obviously), but does it has a standard configuration to popular. I will appreciate your thoughts and feedbacks. Thank you
Lindsay02 said:
Hi,
I just ordered THL W8S from a online shopping site. I just want to know whether it is a good bargain or not. I mean is phone good enough (Not good as Samsung and iphone obviously), but does it has a standard configuration to popular. I will appreciate your thoughts and feedbacks. Thank you
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I own a THL W8s because I would like to test a dual sim device. I used to utilize a Samsung S4 and an iPhone 5 but I think the W8s is very good value for money as you pay less than half the price for the other devices. The only thing is when you want to flash another ROM, you will have to spend some time for finding one.
Lindsay02 said:
Hi,
I just ordered THL W8S from a online shopping site. I just want to know whether it is a good bargain or not. I mean is phone good enough (Not good as Samsung and iphone obviously), but does it has a standard configuration to popular. I will appreciate your thoughts and feedbacks. Thank you
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I'll second the vote of confidence for this phone. The MTK6589T 1.5Ghz SoC is a good chip set that is pretty snappy and has good mltimedia capabilities. It also provides for great browsing ability too. This is one of my faves for the Mediatek SoC and the kernel version has been fairly stable on the devices that I have tested as well. I think you will be satisfied with your purchase providing you understand that Chinese goods can be qwerky at times. Good luck with her and enjoy!
Zetvier said:
I own a THL W8s because I would like to test a dual sim device. I used to utilize a Samsung S4 and an iPhone 5 but I think the W8s is very good value for money as you pay less than half the price for the other devices. The only thing is when you want to flash another ROM, you will have to spend some time for finding one.
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I saw a website published a THL W8S ROM. Here: http://www.thlmobilestore.com/news/thl-w8s-firmware/
I don't know this firmware can or not be used.
I am using one.
First if you don't root it, than your GPS is useless.
Second: if you use for development, the logcat will be full of warning messages, bug to an Android 4.2.1 bug.
Third: it is not for games, has low performance there.
It is good for:
browsing
stand by mode
basic, utility apps
The intermal memory is formatted as the aps has only 3.5Gb available.
Flashing a new ROM can lead to loose the NVRam content: serial number, imeis, mac address an so on.
We have different needs. For me the worse is the Android bug and they don't upgrade to 4.2.2 ... when 4.4 released already...
Using without root: no GPs and ads... is not for me
matheszabi said:
I am using one.
First if you don't root it, than your GPS is useless.
Second: if you use for development, the logcat will be full of warning messages, bug to an Android 4.2.1 bug.
Third: it is not for games, has low performance there.
It is good for:
browsing
stand by mode
basic, utility apps
The intermal memory is formatted as the aps has only 3.5Gb available.
Flashing a new ROM can lead to loose the NVRam content: serial number, imeis, mac address an so on.
We have different needs. For me the worse is the Android bug and they don't upgrade to 4.2.2 ... when 4.4 released already...
Using without root: no GPs and ads... is not for me
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Thanks for your advice, I'm not using GPS, There are other disadvantages?
Lindsay02 said:
Thanks for your advice, I'm not using GPS, There are other disadvantages?
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"Second: if you use for development, the logcat will be full of warning messages, bug to an Android 4.2.1 bug.
Third: it is not for games, has low performance there."
3.5Gb for apps. For me is enough now but the other 24 GB is used like the SD card, so the 32GB is like 4GB + 24GB SDCard...good or not, this is.
If you don't need GPS and not need Logcat for development, and don't wan to play 3D games at full resolution, speed, than is the best phone for his price.
Very nice screen, very high resolution.
Utility apps are working
Easy to root with Framaroot. Than set the EPO + gps.conf and you have a resonable gps first fix time too, still weak hardware and work work indoor, just out.
Photos: make with a special photo device with optical zoom and not with this phones, especially on low ligh conditions.
It has whatever Megapixel, but that is for resolution and not for quality.
At daily, sunny weather you can use it to post a picture to Facebook posting, but by far not the photograph quality. I don't use the camera, just tested 3 times. At night with street light full of noise the picture( low light condition)
matheszabi said:
"Second: if you use for development, the logcat will be full of warning messages, bug to an Android 4.2.1 bug.
Third: it is not for games, has low performance there."
3.5Gb for apps. For me is enough now but the other 24 GB is used like the SD card, so the 32GB is like 4GB + 24GB SDCard...good or not, this is.
If you don't need GPS and not need Logcat for development, and don't wan to play 3D games at full resolution, speed, than is the best phone for his price.
Very nice screen, very high resolution.
Utility apps are working
Easy to root with Framaroot. Than set the EPO + gps.conf and you have a resonable gps first fix time too, still weak hardware and work work indoor, just out.
Photos: make with a special photo device with optical zoom and not with this phones, especially on low ligh conditions.
It has whatever Megapixel, but that is for resolution and not for quality.
At daily, sunny weather you can use it to post a picture to Facebook posting, but by far not the photograph quality. I don't use the camera, just tested 3 times. At night with street light full of noise the picture( low light condition)
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So many shortcomings, without any advantage? In fact, I want to have a reason to buy this phone.
For the price is the best what you get!
It can be routed.
It is a nwverlocked.
Oh it is a dial sim: one to have free 3g internet . other sim to be unused - at lest for me
matheszabi said:
For the price is the best what you get!
It can be routed.
It is a nwverlocked.
Oh it is a dial sim: one to have free 3g internet . other sim to be unused - at lest for me
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I'm still waiting for one week, THL will launch THL T100 eight-core phone. But the price has not been determined.
Lindsay02 said:
I'm still waiting for one week, THL will launch THL T100 eight-core phone. But the price has not been determined.
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From 4 core on this phone 2 is sleeping, almost always.
THIS PHONE ARE NOT FOR GAMES.
from 8 core you will have 6-7 sleeping, but you must pay the price for 8.
Smart idea to buyt a 32 core phone, to have 30 core sleeping
So many money thrown away why don't buy an Original S4? !
matheszabi said:
From 4 core on this phone 2 is sleeping, almost always.
THIS PHONE ARE NOT FOR GAMES.
from 8 core you will have 6-7 sleeping, but you must pay the price for 8.
Smart idea to buyt a 32 core phone, to have 30 core sleeping
So many money thrown away why don't buy an Original S4? !
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Because I want to buy a cheap phone.
There are other cheaper phones recommend?
Lindsay02 said:
There are other cheaper phones recommend?
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Actually, when I bought I was looking for " Samsung galaxy S4 alternative"
Now if you want you can search for "Samsung Galaxy note 3 alternative".
I would recommend this as a cheap phone, if you don't mind routing to have the GPS ( believe me you will need it at least twice in a year and never say "never". The gorila glass 3 is really nice. The Android 4..2.1 will be changed once and at 4.2.2 it isn't that bug, you can find here a custom rom with "... sony ericcson heart" for this phone. I have checked and that has other nice features for developers: GUI debugging.
For gaming take an original Note 3!
Usually it is used only 1 core at at around 500 MHz. The 4 core or 32 core is just an extra price, still lower than S4, but still unused.
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Actually, when I bought I was looking for " Samsung galaxy S4 alternative"
Now if you want you can search for "Samsung Galaxy note 3 alternative".
I would recommend this as a cheap phone, if you don't mind routing to have the GPS ( believe me you will need it at least twice in a year and never say "never". The gorila glass 3 is really nice. The Android 4..2.1 will be changed once and at 4.2.2 it isn't that bug, you can find here a custom rom with "... sony ericcson heart" for this phone. I have checked and that has other nice features for developers: GUI debugging.
For gaming take an original Note 3!
Usually it is used only 1 core at at around 500 MHz. The 4 core or 32 core is just an extra price, still lower than S4, but still unused.
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I checked on the Internet for more information about this phone, the phone is very good, but size is a little big, samsung has a small size cheap mobile phone? (4.3 to 4.7 Inch)
I didn't find the right phone.
Great phone! Using it for 4 months and i love it!!!
fire2blade said:
Great phone! Using it for 4 months and i love it!!!
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hi, i would like to ask, have you tried the set ringtone to specific contacts? I bought w8s 2 days ago, and my contact ringtone won't work. The default ringtone is still the one that "ring/play". I also tried using Ringo app, but only the text tone is successful. Ringing tone is still default ringing tone.. Another thing is the profile picture of the contacts does not show when they are calling.. but it shows on messaging.
Im just wondering if i might have missed something, or the phone's calling feature is defective.
thank you in advance...