Omate Truesmart - Ornate TrueSmart

I've pledged for developers edition, this looks fantastic, tethered or standalone.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/omate/omate-truesmart-water-resistant-standalone-smartwa
SPECIFICATIONS:
Dual Core Cortex A7 – 1.3GHz
Omate UI 1.0 / Android 4.2.2
1.54’’ TFT by LG display (240 x 240) 238 PPI
Multi-touch Capacitive Touch Screen
Connectivity capabilities:
+ 2G GSM: GPRS class 12 EDGE Multi-Slot Class 12
+ 3G WCDMA: HSPA 7.2Mbps/5.76Mbps
+ WiFi: IEEE 802.11b/g/n
+ Bluetooth 4.0
GPS
Embedded 5Mpixel camera
Audio Speaker & Microphone
Memory: 512MB + 4GB + (expandable by microSD 8/16/32GB) 1GB ram as extra $20 upgrade
Micro SIM card
600 mAh battery: up to 100 hours standby time
Messaging Hub: SMS/MMS/Email/SNS
G-sensor, E-Compass, Gyroscope, IP67
Vibration alert
Full set of pre-qualified Android applications, Playstore soon i hope!
Over-the-Air (OTA) system firmware update
The TS Guide:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510696

mcteague said:
I've pledged for developers edition, this looks fantastic, tethered or standalone.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/omate/omate-truesmart-water-resistant-standalone-smartwa
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It looks awesome! The only thing I see that I don't like is the battery. "Up to 100 hours standby time" is only 4 days without any use at all... so more than likely, it'll be a "charge every day" appliance, again.

ClearD said:
It looks awesome! The only thing I see that I don't like is the battery. "Up to 100 hours standby time" is only 4 days without any use at all... so more than likely, it'll be a "charge every day" appliance, again.
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Yeah the jury is still out on that one, good thing is they're taking suggestions on for final design. I drive a van all day so handsfree answering etc is great and when I'm delivering shopping to the 17th floor it's great to have a phone with me. Only time will tell but funding is going great.
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Looks promising. Someone sbould compare it to the Neptune pine. I am convinced that I want a standalone smartwatch not one tethered

ronaldheld said:
Looks promising. Someone sbould compare it to the Neptune pine. I am convinced that I want a standalone smartwatch not one tethered
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I'll add both to my smartwatch comparison website when they officially release, with all the specs and stuff.

My thing is they are evading any question about the thickness, which means it will probably be THICK. Their videos seem to confirm that.

This looks very promising. Videos of physical units is great, I believe they are good on their promise. At $200, sure, I've backed a developers unit. I'll report back in October =P

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Looks promising. Someone sbould compare it to the Neptune pine. I am convinced that I want a standalone smartwatch not one tethered
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I think IP67 certification is main difference and jellybean over ICS. But Neptune 's got an extra 1inch on screen size.
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I have pledged to developer Edition too and hope that are the preloaded apps from the basic edition are available for the development edition over the website or omate appshop.
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More info in first post would be useful.
Like my thread here:
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic...ew-omate-truesmart-smartwatch-20-kickstarter/
You can copy mine if you want.

LOL
All I have to say is smile

Delano.888 said:
More info in first post would be useful.
Like my thread here:
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic...ew-omate-truesmart-smartwatch-20-kickstarter/
You can copy mine if you want.
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Just to reply to your question in that other thread (makes no sense for me to register in there just for that) - why Pebble got 10M while Omate only at 350k? Pebble was an early bird and had a great marketing. I personally use MetaWatch (STRATA and FRAME) and can't imagine going through a day without a smart watch since my Note 2 stays in my pocket and I get all my notifications right on my wrist (thanks to Augments Pro app), I never miss calls anymore, I can control my UE Boom speaker while in the pool under water from my watch, and so on MetaWatch was one of the first out of the door, but poor marketing and software support brought it down. On the other hand Pebble had a brilliant marketing technique, raised a lot of money, sold a lot of units which enables them to hire more software developers or enjoy benefits of free apps developed by others. What came next? Agent SmartWatch (wireless charging), Kreyos Meteor (gesture control), HOT Smartwatch (talking by placing your hand to your ear), and so on. Now market is saturated with all kinds of smartwatches, people are getting confused. Oh, and on top of that - on Sept 4th Samsung will announce Gear (and that is confirmed by Samsung, also with Note 3 introduction). Plus, quite possible on Sept 10th Apple could announce iWatch.
Omate kickstarter campaign has a very bad timing being right in the middle of all these smartwatch announcements. Plain and simple. Especially anticipation of Samsung Gear which took away a lot of momentum from Omate.
But with all that said, I think the idea of Omate is fantastic. There is no room for a phone when you go to the gym or biking or active outdoors. That would be a perfect solution to take out sim card from your phone and load into a watch while leaving my Note 2 at home. Or continue using it tethered at work where it will function as a regular smart watch.
One thing I'm confused, on their kickstarter page they say "3G mono" while you have it listed in your post as 3G CDMA. I'm on Verizon, and do need CDMA. Hopefully it will support it.

vectron said:
Just to reply to your question in that other thread (makes no sense for me to register in there just for that) - why Pebble got 10M while Omate only at 350k? Pebble was an early bird and had a great marketing. I personally use MetaWatch (STRATA and FRAME) and can't imagine going through a day without a smart watch since my Note 2 stays in my pocket and I get all my notifications right on my wrist (thanks to Augments Pro app), I never miss calls anymore, I can control my UE Boom speaker while in the pool under water from my watch, and so on MetaWatch was one of the first out of the door, but poor marketing and software support brought it down. On the other hand Pebble had a brilliant marketing technique, raised a lot of money, sold a lot of units which enables them to hire more software developers or enjoy benefits of free apps developed by others. What came next? Agent SmartWatch (wireless charging), Kreyos Meteor (gesture control), HOT Smartwatch (talking by placing your hand to your ear), and so on. Now market is saturated with all kinds of smartwatches, people are getting confused. Oh, and on top of that - on Sept 4th Samsung will announce Gear (and that is confirmed by Samsung, also with Note 3 introduction). Plus, quite possible on Sept 10th Apple could announce iWatch.
Omate kickstarter campaign has a very bad timing being right in the middle of all these smartwatch announcements. Plain and simple. Especially anticipation of Samsung Gear which took away a lot of momentum from Omate.
But with all that said, I think the idea of Omate is fantastic. There is no room for a phone when you go to the gym or biking or active outdoors. That would be a perfect solution to take out sim card from your phone and load into a watch while leaving my Note 2 at home. Or continue using it tethered at work where it will function as a regular smart watch.
One thing I'm confused, on their kickstarter page they say "3G mono" while you have it listed in your post as 3G CDMA. I'm on Verizon, and do need CDMA. Hopefully it will support it.
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I have 2 numbers but only change them about when I'm nrarlyvout of mobile data, but this watch means I can use both at the sometime using watch for emailing, texting and calls and my Z Ultra for gaming reading etc.
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I am drooling for this watch.
But i hope they change the design. Like the motoactv i'd like a detachable watch face for bike mounts, arm strap etc.

The 3G CDMA is a real spec? Most of the newer smartwatches seem to support GSM.

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The 3G CDMA is a real spec? Most of the newer smartwatches seem to support GSM.
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Just had to Google that as you got me worried but found out 3G is part of CDMA. phew!
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Update:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ter-resistant-standalone-smartwa/posts/581467

The specs in the OP are all GSM, from what I can see. 3G is not just CDMA.

Backed the Dev version.
Received the flashing tool, drivers, and a SN Write Tool earlier today, Which also included an NDA Agreement.
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Backed the Dev version.
Received the flashing tool, drivers, and a SN Write Tool earlier today, Which also included an NDA Agreement.
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That's cool let the developing begin!
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Related

Idiot's Guide to Nexus S and EVO3D - For Idiots.

So after trying to decide between the two for myself, I've decided to try to help other like-minded users find the phone that's best for them.
If you see anything incorrect or missing, please let me know!
I'll start with the Nexus S 4G
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Will receive upgrades first
Will likely run Icecream (HC reworked for phones)
AOSP
No bloatware, and no Sprint apps
Hardware:
1GHz Hummingbird Processor
512MB RAM
4" Super AMOLED screen
16gb internal storage
NO MicroSD card slot
NFC Capability
5MP rear camera
VGA Front camera
1500 mAh Li-ion battery
GPU rated as good, if not slightly better than EVO3D's Adreno 220**
Unique Contour display*
*The contour display can best be seen here. Essentially, the display curves slightly at the ends and reviews have reported it feeling nice against your face. Aside from the feel, the SAMOLED display grants more vivid colors, more luminance, and more contrast, making text easy to read at most sizes.
**Which means the Nexus S will be able to display graphics on a similar caliber of the EVO3D, which is much higher than the EVO.
Layman's terms? Have you noticed how bad the N64 Emulator is on the EVO? It should run beautifully on the Nexus S, and even better on the EVO3D.
Media
DLNA Support for wirelessly streaming media from the phone to your TV or computer
Supported video, audio, and image formats are not known yet, but we can safely assume the standards are there.
Release date: "Spring" 2011
Price: $199 on contract
Form:
An important spec of phones to some users is also their outside form. Here's what we've got on the Nexus
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Size and weight:
63mm x 123.9mm x 10.88mm
129g
4" contour display
Feel: CNET and user reviews say it feels light, and the material feels ´lighter´without metal parts.
This will make it feel more airy, smaller, and less bulky than the current EVO, which is very similar to the EVO3D
Users have reported a 'cheapy' plastic feel to the Nexus S, similar to the Epic. Other than that, there's no decision one way or another if that could be an issue when dropping the phone.
Advice? Don't drop your phone, no matter which model. Or buy a case of some sort.
Summary:
If you end up selling your EVO for $200 (easily done), you'll be able to upgrade to this phone for free. Why would you do that? Well, it's free, and it's a hardware and, eventually, a software upgrade from the EVO. While it boasts almost the same specs as the EVO, the processor is newer and the screen displays more colors with more vibrance.
Currently, the TMO Nexus S has benchmarks that run circles around the EVO and battery life that has been reported to last ~20 hours off-charger. Sound good to you? Same to me.
The phone will definitely last you through 2011, and likely a good chunk, if not all, of 2012. I anticipate it will also be receiving Android versions 2.4 and 3.1 (If that's Ice Cream), which will be more than capable of running on this phone, even if Quad-Core phones are released and run it as well.
Aside from the hardware, the software will be top-notch. You'll receive the latest Android software updates as soon as they're released, and the dev community should be buzzing on this phone, considering its AOSP nature.
Who is this phone good for?
Economically-minded users who want a boost from their current EVO and/or want a great developing experience. If the latest and greatest Google software is your thing, this phone is for you. Keep in mind that Nexus S already runs the Honeycomb SDKs and it will be a breeze to port the AOSP Honeycomb to the Nexus S once the source is released. Further more, AOSP will finally be developing code for WiMax chips, which will help ROMs like CM in incorporating WiMax. You'll also get WiMax on CM8 (When released) first, most likely.
Additional:
Miss having an LED notification light?
Here's your solution: BLN (Back Light Notifications)
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-s-receives-bln-notifications-thanks-xda
Intro:
"How do you follow up one of the most popular, most successful, biggest and fastest phones of 2010? In the case of the recently announced Sprint HTC EVO 3D, you give it a higher resolution screen, 3D recording and playback capability, and you open up a whole new world of user generated content. Oh, and you make it even faster and more powerful."
-Source
EVO 3D
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Includes Sense 2.0 (?)
Includes Sprint Software
Hardware:
1.2 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon dual-core processor
1GB RAM (Which can be expanded* into the External Storage, giving you up to 5GB RAM, which diminishes as you fill internal storage, down to a minimum of 1GB)
1GB Internal Storage (Previous rumors stated 4GB. This still isn't clear or confirmed at all either way.)
4.3" 3D qHD Display with a resolution of 960x540
Expandable memory: 8GB microSD card included: supports up to 32GB
Dual 5 MP cameras used to capture 3D images and videos
1.3MP front-facing camera
1730 mAh Li-ion battery
HDMI port
No kickstand... Devastating, I guess?
*Much like a page file on a PC This has also been pointed out as a rumor, and is MOST LIKELY NOT TRUE
Media:
DLNA for wirelessly streaming media from the phone to your TV or computer
Audio supported formats:
Playback: .AAC, .AMR, .OGG, .M4A, .MID, .MP3, .WAV, .WMA (Windows Media Audio 9)
Recording: .AMR
Video supported formats:
Playback:.3GP, .3G2, .MP4, .WMV (Windows Media Video 9), .AVI (MP4 ASP and MP3), .XVID (MP4 ASP and MP3)
Recording: .3GP
Form:
The EVO3D is similar in look and shape to the EVO. Here's what we've got
Size and Weight:
126mm x 65mm x 12.05mm (4.96" x 2.56" x 0.47")
170 grams (6.0 ounces) with the battery
Feel:
Taken from Engadget's hands-on review:
"As we'd mentioned in our hands-on, we immediately noticed that the EVO 3D didn't feel particularly heavy or bulky in the hand; in fact, we would've guessed that it was a bit lighter than the 4G. Well, turns out they're almost exactly the same weight -- holding the two one right after the other, we couldn't detect a difference.
As for dimensions, the 4G is actually wider -- the 3D's quite a bit more manageable when you're holding it, especially if you don't have giant paws -- and they're right around the same thickness."
Price: unknown
Release date: "Summer" 2011 (June)
Summary:
If you want the latest Sprint power-phone with latest industry hardware and technology - You won't be disappointed. While there are mixed reviews and feelings about the 3D feature of the phone, it seems that 3D is completely optional and is simply an added bonus for buying this already great phone.
Battery life is undetermined right now. While it boasts an industry-leading 1730 mAh Li-ion battery and the processor is some times number more efficient than the current EVO, people speculate it to have as much batter life as the current EVO.
In short: Like your EVOs now, this phone will be fast, bold, and furious, taken to a new extreme.
EDIT: Since the question has been asked on the forums, I've done a little bit of research:
How will the EVO 3D's display hold up against iPhone 4's?
To answer it shortly, the EVO 3D has a slightly lower resolution (960x540) than the iPhone 4 (960x640). Being that the EVO3D has a larger screen and a lower resolution, this means that the PPI (pixels per inch) will be lower, resulting in a slightly less sharp display.
Who is this phone good for?
Power-users who want only the best for themselves. Want to play the latest 3D graphics-intensive games on your phone? EVO3D is for you (please don't mistake 3D graphics for 3D images)
If you buy into the 3D thing, you'll also be able to shoot and view photos and videos in 3D.
This phone has power, screen size, and speed that make it worthwhile to keep far into the future.
[reserved for side-by-side comparison and other things!]
dirkyd3rk said:
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thanks!
IMPORTANT INFO REGARDING SPRINT:
If you didn't already know this, Sprint is changing the way they do their premier customer bonuses.
Basically, they've split premier bonuses into two categories: Silver and Gold
You qualify for Silver status if:
Your monthly base plan is between $69.99 and $89.98 for a SINGLE LINE or between $99.99 and $169.98 for SHARED PLANS.
Silver has the standard 2-year upgrades
You qualify for Gold status if:
Your monthly base plan is $89.99 or more for a single line, or $169.99 or more for shared plans.
OR
If you've been a Sprint customer for 10 or more years
GOLD PREMIER has the one-year upgrade eligibility on the primary line
If you are a student and already on Sprint or planning to switch
Check out this thread regarding a 23% online discount for students.
If you are not a Sprint customer and are thinking of switching over, here's a promotion for you
http://www.samacharexpress.com/2011/03/sprint-offers-150-50-to-wireless-defectors/
They offer $150 for you to switch from them, if you buy a smart phone. Pretty nice deal!
Deal running through 4/16, but call Sprint to check.
Thanks! I already knew all of this, but it'll help some people here for sure.
Also, the Nexus S has a contour display, which you didn't mention.
Oh right, thanks! I'll add that in for sure. Don't forget to hit the thanks button if you thought it was helpful Even if not for you.
I like how this was titled, Idiot's Guide.....for idiots.
No way lmao.
Haha, thanks man.
I'm in no way an expert, I'm a slightly above-average user when it comes to knowledge of hardware and software. I'm just compiling info that I dug around for myself and ask tons of questions on --- and I'm putting it in (hopefully) layman's terms.
Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
So nexus s is a better phone the first gen Evo? I am within my 30 days so I can return my new evo and get the S, I don't want to wait for the 3D as I will be running a blackberry curve until release
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cordell12 said:
So nexus s is a better phone the first gen Evo? I am within my 30 days so I can return my new evo and get the S, I don't want to wait for the 3D as I will be running a blackberry curve until release
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I'd say so, yes.
The hardware is newer than the EVO (though still ~6 months+ old at this point).
The display also is much better
dirkyd3rk said:
Evo is only TFT and supports 16,000 colors. Nexus S is wvga super amoled and supports 16,000,000 colors LOL.
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Not to mention the Software upgrades you'll get with the Nexus. And that's just stock software. Devs will be all over optimizing the software.
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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gmap516 said:
Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
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No please don't.
phatmanxxl said:
No please don't.
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Noted. Thanks for the feedback.
dirkyd3rk said:
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I quoted this and added it to the third post. Thanks bud!
gmap516 said:
Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
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Yeah just direct them to the vid it shows all they need to know since qhd and retina are pretty much the same. LOL
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Im so sick of the iphone presumably being the "standard" of all smartphones.
I am sick of it too! Everything is compared to Iphone, iphone is lame. Maybe its good for people who dont know any better, lol.
I took a long look at nexus s, it may be a bit better than evo 1st gen but I dont care for the look of it. The plastic back, reminds me of the Epic, feels cheap in the hand
You forgot to mention that the gpu in the nexus is actually just as powerful as the adreno 220 if not a little better
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Im so sick of the iphone presumably being the "standard" of all smartphones.
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I mean in 2007 they did set the bar for smartphone (touchscreens) but that might just be someones opinion :rolls eyes: Hate it or love it these companies all make their next moves based on apple. That means apple has the market by the balls. I'm not a fan boy but I speak the truth young Jedi.
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You forgot to mention that the gpu in the nexus is actually just as powerful as the adreno 220 if not a little better
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Being that this is an idiot's guide for idiots, you'll have to explain that to me and put it in layman's terms. I know what a GPU is, but not what the Adreno 220
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I mean in 2007 they did set the bar for smartphone (touchscreens) but that might just be someones opinion :rolls eyes: Hate it or love it these companies all make their next moves based on apple. That means apple has the market by the balls. I'm not a fan boy but I speak the truth young Jedi.
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The truth indeed.

Galaxy S2 vs iPhone 4S

Well, the new / upgraded iPhone has been announced. All I can say is I'm glad I didn't wait for the iPhone 4S and went with the unlocked SGS II. I can't believe they didn't upgrade the screen size!
Here is a run down of the specs:
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I was waiting for someone to post this.......
SGSII win!!
What a huge let down, samsung is releasing tons of sgs2 varients(att/tmo/sprint/intl/lte/hd lte/note/prime) while apple simply upgrades the soc and camera after all this time and says its new and magical.
Screen size
Micro SDXC 64GB+
MKV + others
drag n drop media/files
Better Customization
This is what's lacking for me to even consider changing sgs 2
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All hail s2
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No offence to the OP but YET ANOTHER damn iPhone thread on XDA there must be at least 10 already doing the rounds on the various forums
In a nutshell as ive already said i will never purchase anything Apple related regardless of the specs while they are "closed" and not open source.
..........
just been reading the article on MSN news about the the release and it has a 'APPARENTLY' new feature called the siri double tapping the home button and you can him/her whatever that is,a question... a simpler version was already implemented into sgs2 (vingo) and with all the sueing battles going on between apple and samsung....shouldnt samsung sue apple for this
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just been reading the article on MSN news about the the release and it has a 'APPARENTLY' new feature called the siri double tapping the home button and you can him/her whatever that is,a question... a simpler version was already implemented into sgs2 (vingo) and with all the sueing battles going on between apple and samsung....shouldnt samsung sue apple for this
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LOL true
in fact we had it since Galaxy S 1
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LOL true
in fact we had it since Galaxy S 1
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they just introduced the microphone button on keyboard LMFAO
they are no where near samsung
And they took the Android's roller blind notification.
Apple we're great for kicking the arse of the smartphone back in 2007, but they have fallen behind. Quite disapointing really. If they don't come up with something more "Magical" next year, they might become the new Nokia?
In graphic department the iPhone 4S wins even at a higher resolution (iPad for instance beats all other smartphone and tablets even if they have lower resolution).
Second it wins by more apps also iOS5 is pretty cool although it copied some Android features I guess. But they made it look more sexier, like the notification and widgets look alot better on iOS.
But the downside would probably be it being down clocked to either 700-800mhz since the iPad 2 is at 900Mhz.
But Samsung Galaxy S2 wins everything else
I was very close to buying a iphone 4. Thank god i went for the sgs 2. What a beast of a machine.
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Lol siri was free on thr app store and now that apple bought siri its been removed from the app store and its treating it as a exlcusive selling piont.. Typical apple making u pay for something that was free and making you believe its revolutionary.. The galaxy s 2 had voice input since day one.. That site is wrong because i can tap my phone and it will do wat ever i tel it to, wether thats writing a message or navigating me to a certain place i tell it to and it does it well
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I was waiting for someone to post this.......
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Snap me too lol
Bopster1888 said:
I was very close to buying a iphone 4. Thank god i went for the sgs 2. What a beast of a machine.
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I was on that boat too SG2 for president!!!!
pr0n. can close the topic now. jk
Hmmm…..
Again some people bash out against Iphone and say hallelujah to the SG2. I don’t, to neither side.
But my personal view is that Apple has created a product that attracts tens of millions of people. And I believe that the majority of the buyers of the Iphone just want a telephone simple in use, and to show to the outside world that they are trendy.
Not everyone phone users are interested in flashing and tweaking, like us reading XDA. If people want to by a quite expensive Iphone, let them do so. I have been doing it and maybe I will do it again someday, but not the 4S.
Right now there is two SG2 and one TAB 10.1 in our family. And I’m not impressed by the build quality of none of them. On the SG2’s, random boots, loose home button. And the TAB with Newtons rings that has to be put in the freezer for 5-10 minutes, as a temporary fix. Never have I been using the freezer for anything other than food and ice cubes, before now.
Well, they have been sent for repair today, and I hope the TAB shelf in the freezer can be used for other things when I get it back.
So why did I buy Samsung you ask? Well, I bought these units within 45 days and I didn’t know it would be so many problems with 3/ 3 Samsung products. But I give Samsung a chance and hope they will be okay when I get them back.
Some years ago, in a social event, I met the national sales director of a Japanese car company. After a few drinks he started bashing out on the quality of the cars on his biggest competitors.
One other person asked this sales director if he regularly test drive these competitors’ cars? The sales director hesitated a few seconds before he answered ‘Yes of course!’ . But no one believed his answer, and I think almost everyone present didn’t feel he was credible.
And neither do I, when people are bashing out on products that never have been in their hands.
Love my sgs2 but it appears graphics wise the 4gs will trump the s2, based off how well the ipad 2 performs. Not something I care about that much because I don't use it for games or graphic intensive operations, but I know some people on here will secretively wish for that kind of performance.
If those battery stats are right it looks like it will trump the s2 in that department.
Although I wouldn't personally own an iphone, mainly due to the hype being over the top, anyone denying this will challenge or beat the s2 in a few departments is in plainn denial.
A lot of iphone users had already bought the thing before knowing what the specs were... Mmmm no comment. Mind you I'm sure there are some samsung users out there that would do the same
Hmm that's pretty boring because actually nothing changed (for my kind of user at least) : iOS is still the best platform for games and ease of use, Android is still the best platform in terms of actual choice of the hardware and freedom of use. An iPhone will work the exact same way with a dual core processor, the only thing that may change is the quality of the games, which i do not care about since i don't care about gaming on a phone in general.
It's also kind of interesting to see this pathetic attempt of Apple at convincing iFans that they don't need a bigger screen, good luck with that...no wonder Apple shares dropped by a nice 4% just a couple minutes after the 4s was revealed

Is the THL W8S Worth Buying?

Hi,
I just ordered THL W8S from a online shopping site. I just want to know whether it is a good bargain or not. I mean is phone good enough (Not good as Samsung and iphone obviously), but does it has a standard configuration to popular. I will appreciate your thoughts and feedbacks. Thank you
Lindsay02 said:
Hi,
I just ordered THL W8S from a online shopping site. I just want to know whether it is a good bargain or not. I mean is phone good enough (Not good as Samsung and iphone obviously), but does it has a standard configuration to popular. I will appreciate your thoughts and feedbacks. Thank you
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I own a THL W8s because I would like to test a dual sim device. I used to utilize a Samsung S4 and an iPhone 5 but I think the W8s is very good value for money as you pay less than half the price for the other devices. The only thing is when you want to flash another ROM, you will have to spend some time for finding one.
Lindsay02 said:
Hi,
I just ordered THL W8S from a online shopping site. I just want to know whether it is a good bargain or not. I mean is phone good enough (Not good as Samsung and iphone obviously), but does it has a standard configuration to popular. I will appreciate your thoughts and feedbacks. Thank you
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I'll second the vote of confidence for this phone. The MTK6589T 1.5Ghz SoC is a good chip set that is pretty snappy and has good mltimedia capabilities. It also provides for great browsing ability too. This is one of my faves for the Mediatek SoC and the kernel version has been fairly stable on the devices that I have tested as well. I think you will be satisfied with your purchase providing you understand that Chinese goods can be qwerky at times. Good luck with her and enjoy!
Zetvier said:
I own a THL W8s because I would like to test a dual sim device. I used to utilize a Samsung S4 and an iPhone 5 but I think the W8s is very good value for money as you pay less than half the price for the other devices. The only thing is when you want to flash another ROM, you will have to spend some time for finding one.
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I saw a website published a THL W8S ROM. Here: http://www.thlmobilestore.com/news/thl-w8s-firmware/
I don't know this firmware can or not be used.
I am using one.
First if you don't root it, than your GPS is useless.
Second: if you use for development, the logcat will be full of warning messages, bug to an Android 4.2.1 bug.
Third: it is not for games, has low performance there.
It is good for:
browsing
stand by mode
basic, utility apps
The intermal memory is formatted as the aps has only 3.5Gb available.
Flashing a new ROM can lead to loose the NVRam content: serial number, imeis, mac address an so on.
We have different needs. For me the worse is the Android bug and they don't upgrade to 4.2.2 ... when 4.4 released already...
Using without root: no GPs and ads... is not for me
matheszabi said:
I am using one.
First if you don't root it, than your GPS is useless.
Second: if you use for development, the logcat will be full of warning messages, bug to an Android 4.2.1 bug.
Third: it is not for games, has low performance there.
It is good for:
browsing
stand by mode
basic, utility apps
The intermal memory is formatted as the aps has only 3.5Gb available.
Flashing a new ROM can lead to loose the NVRam content: serial number, imeis, mac address an so on.
We have different needs. For me the worse is the Android bug and they don't upgrade to 4.2.2 ... when 4.4 released already...
Using without root: no GPs and ads... is not for me
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Thanks for your advice, I'm not using GPS, There are other disadvantages?
Lindsay02 said:
Thanks for your advice, I'm not using GPS, There are other disadvantages?
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"Second: if you use for development, the logcat will be full of warning messages, bug to an Android 4.2.1 bug.
Third: it is not for games, has low performance there."
3.5Gb for apps. For me is enough now but the other 24 GB is used like the SD card, so the 32GB is like 4GB + 24GB SDCard...good or not, this is.
If you don't need GPS and not need Logcat for development, and don't wan to play 3D games at full resolution, speed, than is the best phone for his price.
Very nice screen, very high resolution.
Utility apps are working
Easy to root with Framaroot. Than set the EPO + gps.conf and you have a resonable gps first fix time too, still weak hardware and work work indoor, just out.
Photos: make with a special photo device with optical zoom and not with this phones, especially on low ligh conditions.
It has whatever Megapixel, but that is for resolution and not for quality.
At daily, sunny weather you can use it to post a picture to Facebook posting, but by far not the photograph quality. I don't use the camera, just tested 3 times. At night with street light full of noise the picture( low light condition)
matheszabi said:
"Second: if you use for development, the logcat will be full of warning messages, bug to an Android 4.2.1 bug.
Third: it is not for games, has low performance there."
3.5Gb for apps. For me is enough now but the other 24 GB is used like the SD card, so the 32GB is like 4GB + 24GB SDCard...good or not, this is.
If you don't need GPS and not need Logcat for development, and don't wan to play 3D games at full resolution, speed, than is the best phone for his price.
Very nice screen, very high resolution.
Utility apps are working
Easy to root with Framaroot. Than set the EPO + gps.conf and you have a resonable gps first fix time too, still weak hardware and work work indoor, just out.
Photos: make with a special photo device with optical zoom and not with this phones, especially on low ligh conditions.
It has whatever Megapixel, but that is for resolution and not for quality.
At daily, sunny weather you can use it to post a picture to Facebook posting, but by far not the photograph quality. I don't use the camera, just tested 3 times. At night with street light full of noise the picture( low light condition)
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So many shortcomings, without any advantage? In fact, I want to have a reason to buy this phone.
For the price is the best what you get!
It can be routed.
It is a nwverlocked.
Oh it is a dial sim: one to have free 3g internet . other sim to be unused - at lest for me
matheszabi said:
For the price is the best what you get!
It can be routed.
It is a nwverlocked.
Oh it is a dial sim: one to have free 3g internet . other sim to be unused - at lest for me
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I'm still waiting for one week, THL will launch THL T100 eight-core phone. But the price has not been determined.
Lindsay02 said:
I'm still waiting for one week, THL will launch THL T100 eight-core phone. But the price has not been determined.
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From 4 core on this phone 2 is sleeping, almost always.
THIS PHONE ARE NOT FOR GAMES.
from 8 core you will have 6-7 sleeping, but you must pay the price for 8.
Smart idea to buyt a 32 core phone, to have 30 core sleeping
So many money thrown away why don't buy an Original S4? !
matheszabi said:
From 4 core on this phone 2 is sleeping, almost always.
THIS PHONE ARE NOT FOR GAMES.
from 8 core you will have 6-7 sleeping, but you must pay the price for 8.
Smart idea to buyt a 32 core phone, to have 30 core sleeping
So many money thrown away why don't buy an Original S4? !
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Because I want to buy a cheap phone.
There are other cheaper phones recommend?
Lindsay02 said:
There are other cheaper phones recommend?
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Actually, when I bought I was looking for " Samsung galaxy S4 alternative"
Now if you want you can search for "Samsung Galaxy note 3 alternative".
I would recommend this as a cheap phone, if you don't mind routing to have the GPS ( believe me you will need it at least twice in a year and never say "never". The gorila glass 3 is really nice. The Android 4..2.1 will be changed once and at 4.2.2 it isn't that bug, you can find here a custom rom with "... sony ericcson heart" for this phone. I have checked and that has other nice features for developers: GUI debugging.
For gaming take an original Note 3!
Usually it is used only 1 core at at around 500 MHz. The 4 core or 32 core is just an extra price, still lower than S4, but still unused.
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matheszabi said:
Actually, when I bought I was looking for " Samsung galaxy S4 alternative"
Now if you want you can search for "Samsung Galaxy note 3 alternative".
I would recommend this as a cheap phone, if you don't mind routing to have the GPS ( believe me you will need it at least twice in a year and never say "never". The gorila glass 3 is really nice. The Android 4..2.1 will be changed once and at 4.2.2 it isn't that bug, you can find here a custom rom with "... sony ericcson heart" for this phone. I have checked and that has other nice features for developers: GUI debugging.
For gaming take an original Note 3!
Usually it is used only 1 core at at around 500 MHz. The 4 core or 32 core is just an extra price, still lower than S4, but still unused.
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I checked on the Internet for more information about this phone, the phone is very good, but size is a little big, samsung has a small size cheap mobile phone? (4.3 to 4.7 Inch)
I didn't find the right phone.
Great phone! Using it for 4 months and i love it!!!
fire2blade said:
Great phone! Using it for 4 months and i love it!!!
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hi, i would like to ask, have you tried the set ringtone to specific contacts? I bought w8s 2 days ago, and my contact ringtone won't work. The default ringtone is still the one that "ring/play". I also tried using Ringo app, but only the text tone is successful. Ringing tone is still default ringing tone.. Another thing is the profile picture of the contacts does not show when they are calling.. but it shows on messaging.
Im just wondering if i might have missed something, or the phone's calling feature is defective.
thank you in advance...

[Poll] NEW Umeox x202(?) KK4.4, 320x320, IP68, MTK6572W, 1900mhz

Just got note from my contact at Umeox that they are ready to produce a new version of SmartWatch. It takes after the general look and size of the existing x201 series, but adds some nicely upgraded features that are enticing.
As always, nothing I have is 100% confirmed... but rumors usually are typically nothing but just premature facts.
The watch will have:
1.2 - 1.4MHz dual core, MTK6572w (Not the 6577)
Full Android KitKat 4.4
320x320 LG display, 1.54" - 1.6"
Will be branded as a Umeox
1G/8G (up to 64Gb)
US GSM, 850mhz 2G and 1900mhz 3G
Wi-Fi b/g/n
Bluetooth 4.0
GPS
5.0M Camera
720p HD video
IP68 water worthiness
OTA updates
So far, they have yet to receive enough orders to produce the first 500 units, currently short by only 100, and have asked me to post a poll and see how much interest there is for a device like this on this side of the world...
Initial reports show this watch will sell for less or the same as the TS.
So question of the day...
1. What is your interest level on a device that would have the above specifications? What would you like to see added or changed?
2. Would you buy this watch if the above specs are true, value pricing and is branded under Umeox with their support?
I'll go first...
YES and yes!!!
For me, one of my bigger complaints about my TS is the poor resolution of the screen. I think the added dpi will be extremely helpful in reading some of the smaller text in some third party apps. Also the failed waterproof design of the TS has me constantly in fear of loss doing menial H2O activities and is totally unacceptable.
Competitors or alike devices
I was looking at the Gear S due to it's beautiful curved, hi-res screen... But TIZEN....! Come on, Sammy, stop trying to become Apple and create your own ecosystem!
This has put my and my techy friend's interest in the AI Watch on the back burner and would rather have these specs. We all would very much like to see this one make it to the US market... Please give your comments.
My interest is low, because this is the device backers should have received.
If I can trade old devices for it, I'd be happy to.
Otherwise, no. The interest is clearly there but not for what I paid at KS price for the TS1.
My interest is high. I would buy if it had kk and some improvements in hardware.
Perhaps if MediaTek is participating with the Android One initiative we will see better support? Dunno what the board specs are so who really knows.
http://www.mediatek.com/en/news-eve...-affordable-smartphones-for-emerging-markets/
But yes, I would buy it right now if it had a slight hardware bump and KK.
Couldn't agree more! But in the end, the TS was a first. Technology firsts don't have the greatest of track records. Of the standalones available or coming available, ie Gear S, AI Watch and various no name SZ offerings, this is the only decent possibility. IMHO
Yes, if it has KK, Bluetooth low energy, all the previous flaky bluetooth issues are fixed, speakerphone call quality is improved and my biggest issue, battery and SIM shouldn't need a screw driver to get at, make it easy, it isn't water proof and doesnt need to be
mghtymse007 said:
Just got note from my contact at Umeox that they are ready to produce a new version of SmartWatch. It takes after the general look and size of the existing x201 series, but adds some nicely upgraded features that are enticing.
As always, nothing I have is 100% confirmed... but rumors usually are typically nothing but just premature facts.
The watch will have:
1.2 - 1.4MHz dual core
Full Android KitKat 4.4
320x320 LG display, 1.54" - 1.6"
Will be branded as a Umeox
1G/8G (up to 64Gb)
US GSM, 850mhz 2G and 1900mhz 3G
Wi-Fi b/g/n
Bluetooth 4.0
GPS
5.0M Camera
720p HD video
IP68 water worthiness
OTA updates
So far, they have yet to receive enough orders to produce the first 500 units, currently short by only 100, and have asked me to post a poll and see how much interest there is for a device like this on this side of the world...
Initial reports show this watch will sell for less or the same as the TS.
So question of the day...
1. What is your interest level on a device that would have the above specifications? What would you like to see added or changed?
2. Would you buy this watch if the above specs are true, value pricing and is branded under Umeox with their support?
I'll go first...
YES and yes!!!
For me, one of my bigger complaints about my TS is the poor resolution of the screen. I think the added dpi will be extremely helpful in reading some of the smaller text in some third party apps. Also the failed waterproof design of the TS has me constantly in fear of loss doing menial H2O activities and is totally unacceptable.
Competitors or alike devices
I was looking at the Gear S due to it's beautiful curved, hi-res screen... But TIZEN....! Come on, Sammy, stop trying to become Apple and create your own ecosystem!
This has put my and my techy friend's interest in the AI Watch on the back burner and would rather have these specs. We all would very much like to see this one make it to the US market... Please give your comments.
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This is the x201 specs, except for the screen and uC. I do not see the use for a 320x320 1,6'' screen. Maybe a 320x240 2'' (same width). I do not follow 6577 instead of 6572: More power required (40nm vs 28nm) and I see low need for faster CPU.
Umeox branding is fine - the company that can just not disappear without loosing credibility.
However, the specs are OK, it could be interesting.
But the most important is in the details:
* Thickness/weight?
* Auto-focus on camera? (Why 5MP....)
* Control of kernel and Android at Umeox? Quality of drivers? Follow the GPL? Work with the community? Android updates?
* HW reliability? Real or fake IP68?
There are alternatives already. Personally, I want a sports device with barometer and preferably ANT+ too, nothing there yet.
However, I will pass on this one until the commitment to live up to the specs can be believed, the track record is not too good (I still believe Omate had good intentions).
Edit: Getting stable ROM and usable kernel source for existing x201 is one way to make me interested.
Yes
I think I would like my TS if its touchscreen was not defective. I will be trying again with some type of stand alone phone swatch. not interested in a BT dongle watch.
Interested in the PCB, components and full source code. Then build these instead;
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kuronosan said:
My interest is low, because this is the device backers should have received.
If I can trade old devices for it, I'd be happy to.
Otherwise, no. The interest is clearly there but not for what I paid at KS price for the TS1.
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I agree with you on this. I bought the Extreme Edition of the watch. If they would let me trade in my current one for, at least, some credit towards buying the new one, it would be nice.
I would be interested.... Support would be my biggest concern... The TS does everything I need it to do. I had no designs on it replacing my phone other than when running... Beyond that, it's a glorified iPod for me so it works as intended... My issue with it is that if the band breaks or it has some other problem, there's little to nothing that can be done about it. I wear it everyday and so far it's held up but I'm sure it's only a matter of time...
I can't believe that the specs are right.
MT6577 is a 40 nm CPU from 2012. Should be a very bad option for a smartwatch with small battery. Long time ago since I saw new devices with that CPU. Most of them had ICS, only a few get updated to Jellybean (4.1). I don't know any mt6577 device with Kitkat.
Other Chinese smartphone manufactures switched to other CPU to ship their devices with a more recent Android Version. I thought mt6577 was EOL.
The upgraded screen is a definite plus for me. As said before, the CPU is kind of old...if it was styled more like the Omate I'd be interested. I prefer the look of the Omate to pretty much any of the other watches based off the x201.
perpe said:
I can't believe that the specs are right.
MT6577 is a 40 nm CPU from 2012. Should be a very bad option for a smartwatch with small battery. Long time ago since I saw new devices with that CPU. Most of them had ICS, only a few get updated to Jellybean (4.1). I don't know any mt6577 device with Kitkat.
Other Chinese smartphone manufactures switched to other CPU to ship their devices with a more recent Android Version. I thought mt6577 was EOL.
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You are correct. After a quick confirmation, he was mistaken in his first spec list. The CPU is going to be:
MTK6572w
I just got the full spec sheet from Umeox. I'll check if I can post publicly.
Will change OP, thanks for heads up.
Sometimes tapa is slower than me...
speedyink said:
The upgraded screen is a definite plus for me. As said before, the CPU is kind of old...if it was styled more like the Omate I'd be interested. I prefer the look of the Omate to pretty much any of the other watches based off the x201.
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Agreed on the styling... I have had strangers ask about it because they liked the style of the Omate.
The Iron Man is the x202.
1. I would need dimension: width, height and thickness ... some are far too big and thick to wear.
2. Battery life!?
3. Loads of sensors ...barometer, compass. ..etc. with sensors it can compete with other sport watches.
4. What assurances can they give that they will keep their promise?
I mean we can all show our interest but we're not obliged to order so yes I'm interested with the same conviction as the supplier.
MT6572 - the same (or similar) processor as the InWatch Z, interesting, with MediaTek MiraVision.
Sounds relatively interesting-whether I would actually shell out hard cash is another thing altogether.
Still finding little niggles with my TS-so just a bit wary.
water resistent? Strap changeable? scratch protection? If no, there is no reason to change from my Omate and Simvalley AW420...
Gesendet von meinem SM-N9005 mit Tapatalk
So if 500 orders are made then what happens? What are the nexts steps?

Best place to buy PC parts?

What do you guys use?
I usually compare Amazon and NewEgg and just go with whichever has the better price.
Also, anyone remember CompUSA before it went out of business?
CompUSA was nice, back in the early days
svetius said:
What do you guys use?
I usually compare Amazon and NewEgg and just go with whichever has the better price.
Also, anyone remember CompUSA before it went out of business?
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ah, so... XDA has a PC tech side now... yes...
anyways, I like to check amazon for free shipping and decent "warehouse" specials
bhphoto for tax free sales to my island, and usually very strict about pricing (they actually do MSRP)
newegg isn't really that good for me for years, they've raised shipping prices tooooo much, and pricing is not really competitive because of that.
ebay for used motherboard for older platforms... (ivy bridge / haswell...) and laptop parts...
I try to use newegg when possible, but It's hard to beat Amazon prime offers. But, my secret weapon is always newegg.com. Check their daily deals as often as possible. All of my best tech deals have been from there.
Use to use Mwave but they died. Mouser Electronics or Digikey for components and various electronic supplies.
Newegg and Amazon but I wish there were more.
Amazon is especially hated...
XDARoni said:
I try to use newegg when possible, but It's hard to beat Amazon prime offers. But, my secret weapon is always newegg.com. Check their daily deals as often as possible. All of my best tech deals have been from there.
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I agree, I always check Newegg before Amazon. I got my GPU from Microcenter
In india I always prefer MD computers
Easy now!
Things have changed a quite a bit, on Where and When, Personal users can purchase "Parts" (Parts=just about anything, in the Box, Tower, and even Laptops tablets) Dont work in a lab or do it for a living... Lab , might be cool, then again, might not!
Now, it really depends on the scope of the project. IF I am building for someone else, I do my homework and really get to find out IF or When I can get a certain list of parts (Mostly the most newest Intel part, that you just can go to a box store, and walk out with said part, why ? ) then get what I can/need!
OK, now that said, I use Digikey, Newegg Amazon, Microcenter to actually name a few. Have found a few others, but they are in bed with the Major company- (Hint Check out AMD and Intel- they have certain suppliers. This list, has changed, - opens up other places, but if you want the newest, latest xyz part, might be in for a wait)
Never use Best Buy. for Internal Parts, too $$$$ !
Short list is Amazon and Newegg, ...
Hope this can help
Anyone ever try Tiger? https://www.tigerdirect.com/
I use Newegg, avoid Amazon and Doctor Evil.
Droid_Nut said:
Anyone ever try Tiger? https://www.tigerdirect.com/
I use Newegg, avoid Amazon and Doctor Evil.
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Oh yeah. t's been awhile, but I've ordered form there before
HipKat said:
Oh yeah. t's been awhile, but I've ordered form there before
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Me too, probably 15 years ago?
Newegg.com only inside USA, right?
Or they send overseas?
Amazon.
im just gonna go and say amazon will only be PC parts not laptop, and limited. if you want motherboards, specific and usually cheaper deals would be ebay. newegg if you ass is wiped with gold bars and amazon if you want fast shipping and moderate prices. ebay is a very reluctant tool sometines. and if you're not flaking gold bars, and want to find a relatively fast option is to buy a motherboard for an i5, i7, laptop off ebay and just using the hdmi ports, for display and external keybaord and mouse. just an idea i did at rough times.
Does anyone here had gone to computer shows? When I was building my own PC, I used to go to the computer show and checked the parts and bought them. The company that organized the computer shows had decided to stop doing that because of the internet, less people going to the shows. I will have to build a new PC b/c the one I am using is not compatible with Windows 11, and I also need one that can handle more resources for day trading.
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The OP had mentioned about CompUSA, which brings back memory about the first PC (complete package) that I bought with them. The package cost was $1500.
svetius said:
What do you guys use?
I usually compare Amazon and NewEgg and just go with whichever has the better price.
Also, anyone remember CompUSA before it went out of business?
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Both Amazon and NewEgg are amazing. Also, try some Offline Market so that you can easily compare prices.
I would prefer Amazon and BuyKingston. I have been using Hyperx RAM for more than 11 months and it's doing the job pretty well for me. Till now, my PC is running like a beast.
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svetius said:
What do you guys use?
I usually compare Amazon and NewEgg and just go with whichever has the better price.
Also, anyone remember CompUSA before it went out of business?
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I start with NewEgg for mostly selecting the parts I'll buy, referencing high ratings et cetera and individual reviews. Then I check for those parts on Amazon and also at MicroCenter - which I've been buying things from for almost 40 years starting with floppy disks by mail order way back then. I still get some parts from NewEgg. A year ago when I built my PC, I bought the motherboard, CPU, and some M.2 SSDs locally at MicroCenter because they were the cheapest for the parts I wanted.
I used to use TigerDirect. They've been mostly useless to me in recent years. Some of the last things I had gotten from them 7-8 years ago was a humungous but plastic computer case that after rebate I paid $5 for. I used it up until my build last year, when I bought much higher quality but still even larger desktop cases (one each for my wife and I - my old computer became her new one).
TigerDirect's April fools joke from 2015 was funny:
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ASUS CrystalTab 12" TouchScreen Cyborg 4.1 Marzipan Holographic Tablet - Ontel Quantum Quark 4.1, 1TB Liquid State Drive,My-Fi/Wi-Fi, Hexacamera, Clear​Item#: KBU-102359643 | Model#:CrystalTab
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Additional Resources​ASUS CrystalTAB 12" Clear Tablet Product Details​ASUS CrystalTAB 12" Clear Tablet
The ASUS CrystalTab 12" My-FI Tablet is the next evolution of computing. This is the one device to destroy them all. The ultimate Computer, Projector, TV, and Phone, in less than a 12" screen. Revolutionary leaps in processing with Ontel Quantum Quark processor, unreleased DDR99 memory access rates, and liquid state storage offer up the next level of computing experience that you have never known. No internet connection needed, ever, with brand new, perosnal antenna My-Fi. Photos can be uploaded in the middle of the mountains with speeds never dreamed of. File sizes won't be a problem even though you are sporting six, count them, six 4K cameras that line the edges of the ultra-slim tablet. Each piece is designed with you in mind. Full customization, full feature access, and no limitations.
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8K Hologram Projection: 7680x4320
1 TB Liquid State Drive - Flexible Storage in a Rigid World.
1 Year, 2 Bodyguard Program - Drops Spills, Robberies Protected Against
HexaCamera - Two cameras? Try Six.
My-FI - Wi-Fi - Personal Wi-Fi Wherever you Are
8K Hologram Projection: 7680x4320​Because Seeing is Believing
We make face to face interaction almost too real. With the latest in hologram projection, and 8K resolution, project stage quality holograms directly from your tablet for lifelike holo-calls, or holo-time.
1 Year, 2 Bodyguard Program - Drops Spills, Robberies Protected Against​Security that never leaves your side.
In this day and age, protecting your tech takes more than the standard warranty program. For one year, we include two bodyguards to protect you, and your new tablet. Want to ditch them for a day? Turn on the projection feature to create decoy bodyguards.
HexaCamera​Two cameras? Try Six.
Two cameras are great, but we can do better, which is why we added six - one for each side of the tablet. Discreetly taking photos has never been easier, and now you can up your Instagram™ and Twitter™ game with super-secret photo skills. Add a caption to add your own personal brand.
My-FI - Wi-Fi​Personal Wi-Fi Wherever you Are
The best internet connections are ones that are there when you need them: in an airport, on a cruise ship, or on long road trips. New My-Fi turns your body into an antenna, magnifying the strength of cell towers around the world. The more people around, the better the signal - at no cost to you.
1 TB Liquid State Drive​Flexible Storage in a Rigid World.
Solid State is so passé. New Liquid State technology gives you more flexibility than ever. Filling in all the nooks and crannies with additional storage space, we can fit more storage than ever, without compromising performance.
I buy very often used from Hardforum.com, Red flag deals BST forum, eBay is very good for used corporate systems, in general, I buy many used parts as you save a ton of money. On Reddit, Hardware swap, Canadian Hardware Swap, Hardwarecanucks.com BST forum. This week I got a Lenovo M900 sff PC for 180cad with i5-6500/8GB ram/256 GB SSD and Windows 10 pro for my GF as an HTPC. Pretty sweet deal.
You also have GreenPCgamers if you think of buying a cheap workstation and upgrade it for gaming, work or both.

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