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Official Viewsonic set the record straight about "Gtablet Support" or did they?
Was led to a video on youtube caught on ces 2011.
By the sound of the representive there, it seems as viewsonic will no longer support the Gtablet, but there own viewpad 10s tablet which they will sell and support. And as meantioned in the video the Gtablet will be supported and sold by US merchant.
Just thought I give an insight. So please feel free to disscussed further on this topic.
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This was posted on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UobzkW6iV28
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Viewsonic answers and sets the record straight!
Posted by officialviewsonic:
See what happens when I go to CES?!
Glad there's so much discussion about the G-Tablet. Let me try to help resolve some of the confusion...
We now have 4 full-sized tablets we've introduced.
G-Tablet you all know
ViewPad 7 - 7 inch Qualcom Processor running Froyo. 3G and voice ready (integrated SIM)
ViewPad 10 - 10 inch Dual Boot Win 7 / Android 1.6 (soon to be higher)
ViewPad 10S - Tegra II -based Froyo device
First, let me make one thing clear: ALL PRODUCTS HAVE FULL SUPPORT. The G-Tablet has a different support line mainly due to its more retail/end-user distribution. That line is managed by USMerchants, hence our sales rep's comments.
The G-Tablet is not going away. We have an OTA upgrade scheduled for later this week, and are looking at different OS loads on it (hint hint).
Google does not support Google Mobile Services or the Android App Store on any 10" tablet running Froyo. Adobe does not support Flash on any 10" Tegra II Tablet running Froyo.
While we originally were launching the 10S only in Europe and Russia, we are now considering bringing it to the Americas as well.
We have many more Tablets in different configurations and sizes in the works, so you'll continue to see great things from us.
Thank you all for your continued interest and support for our products. I'll keep you updated!
And while Viewsonic will only support the 10s it still will not have the marketplace installed....smh...hrmmmmmm
The device has always been purchased through US Merchants and supported through both entities (when all is said and done). Viewsonic mainly had a hands-off approach to the G all along. This marketing lady sums up what is going on. The G was a stepping stone for them and just to get a place in the market (with less than good results).
Not seeing how much has changed, but since this device has Viewsonic's name on it, they will have to support it. Too much bad press on top of the already bad press would be too much rick for them. Seems only difference is an HDMI port and probably higher price.
dezufnoC said:
And while Viewsonic will only support the 10s it still will not have the marketplace installed....smh...hrmmmmmm
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Yes and no meantion of flash. Since they stated on their site that it would be by late jan. Will pending certification from adobe that is.
Interesting. Looks identical device.
Your correct they do have that big logo on the rear of our Gtablets. lol So lets see what happens... hopefully they will honor the support and not push us to US merchant.
Yes the price could be higher only b/cus the rep laughed hoping it could be the same price as the Gtablet lol. Also no Tap n tap.
rushless said:
The device has always been purchased through US Merchants and supported through both entities (when all is said and done). Viewsonic mainly had a hands-off approach to the G all along. This marketing lady sums up what is going on. The G was a stepping stone for them and just to get a place in the market (with less than good results).
Not seeing how much has changed, but since this device has Viewsonic's name on it, they will have to support it. Too much bad press on top of the already bad press would be too much rick for them. Seems only difference is an HDMI port and probably higher price.
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sam96_77 said:
Interesting. Looks identical device.
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These are the specs they are showing us as of late:
Android 2.2 OS
10.1" Capacitive multi-touch
1024x600 Resolution
1GHz, 512MB ROM
512MB RAM
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR (Optional 3G)
Webcam 1.3MP
G-sensor
USB, Micro SD (32GB Max), HDMI, headphone
XDA support
The G tablet will be sold by US Merchants, but the true support comes from XDA and the team of Devs who make this device what it is! This makes me think Gingerbread and Honeycomb will only be brought to the G tab if XDA makes it happen....
So true. I don't really think about Viewsonic anymore when I am using my gTablet. Like others have said, if the dev community here at xda had not stepped up to make these fantastic roms for this tablet I would have returned it to the store long ago.
Any piece of electronics I purchase I buy fully knowing that it will become outdated very quickly. So I will enjoy my gTablet for as long as the guys here at xda cook things up for it. When these guys move onto other great tablets I may purchase one of those at that time.
But until then, I have a great tablet running a great custom rom and I will continue to get great use out of it everyday.
Couldn't agree more.... Roebeet, Gojimi, Rothnic and all the others who have contributed here on XDA made the tablet fast and stable. I say as long as we have them. Im ok with that. I'll just theme them up lol.
This may seem like a dumb question, but do any of these guys have donate paypal accounts or something of that nature? They do all this work on these roms, with many people like myself reaping the benefits without really contributing. I would like to give something back other than my feedback when something works or doesnt work.
That being said, I do not regret my purchase of this device and I did it knowing that xda devs were on it. If viewsonic is smart, they would employ the devs here and keep this piece alive. It really is a good, solid device with good hardware.
Sent from my GTablet-TnT-Lite using Tapatalk
If the support issue turns out this way, it will be the second time I got screwed up by Viewsonic Support. And it will definitely be the last time.
What sort of support from Viewsonic have any of you been accustom to or dependent on for the g-tab?
Your support is right here on XDA.
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This may seem like a dumb question, but do any of these guys have donate paypal accounts or something of that nature? They do all this work on these roms, with many people like myself reaping the benefits without really contributing. I would like to give something back other than my feedback when something works or doesnt work.
That being said, I do not regret my purchase of this device and I did it knowing that xda devs were on it. If viewsonic is smart, they would employ the devs here and keep this piece alive. It really is a good, solid device with good hardware.
Sent from my GTablet-TnT-Lite using Tapatalk
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If an developer accepts donation you can see the "Donate to me" button which can be seen in any of their postings above the Avatar (left hand side).
If it was not for Devs here mine would be back in store. In fact if I wanna know if the g-tablet will get updated to honeycomb I don't ask viewsonic rather I tweet bekit, reobeet and company. I have more faith on the guys here at xda then any other company that includes galaxy s carriers and manufacturers.
You guys rock
Agreement
As a newbie to Android I look at the xda site here everyday, sometimes twice just to see what amazing stuff these guys come up with for the gtablet......from a newbie to the guys developing stuff for the trablet that I love......thanks
IMHO... viewsonic adding the xda link to their site was the best think they've done as for the gtablet. Especially for those unaware that we have a dev team enhancing our tablets to a point where we can say wow.
I can't express enough how excited I am about how the devs modified our tablets to work as it should of out of the box.
I for one and I know many will agree that we are NOW happy with our gtablets.
Thanks dev team!
Viewsonic are probably quietly hoping that the devs will fix their 10s when that comes out too!
I'm not too worried about it. All we need is a dump of whatever firmware they end up with on the 10s, and it might be fairly easy to port over. One good thing about the Tegra is APX mode - allows us to take more risks.
Gojimi is working on his Gingerbread rig, Bekit on dealing with cm7, Pershoot and the kernel devs are amazing us with their customized kernels and Rothnic is popping out updates to his mods all the time. Things are alive and well, here.
Heck, we might have an Eve port one day. :O
S2W said:
IMHO... viewsonic adding the xda link to their site was the best think they've done as for the gtablet. Especially for those unaware that we have a dev team enhancing our tablets to a point where we can say wow.
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On the other hand they will not hesitate to void the warranty of any tablet that has XDA stuff on it.
Hello everyone!
I will soon (well, not really that soon, but in the future i guess) need to develop an Android app for a university class i will be attending. I'm really interesting in the mobile world and Android looks like a great platform/OS, pretty open and customizable.
Since i do not own any Android device i think i will buy one soon, not only because of the class but also because i want to learn and explore Google's mobile OS. I know i can develop and try the app using the emulator but since the app will be using wireless features i'd like to test it on a physical device.
Keep in mind that i know nearly nothing about Android development; here's the question: what are the hardware limits of installing and testing apps?
I'll explain it a bit better. Since i don't want to spend too much money on the Android phone i'll buy, i was thinking to buy a chinese phone running Gingerbread (2.3.6 or later to be more precise). So my question is: can i test my developed apps potentially on any type of Android phone, with any type of hardware specs, (let's say mid-range device) even if it is not from a famous brand?
P.S. : i'm perfectly aware that very cheap (and also good, why not) phones are available even from famous brands (like Samsung, LG maybe HTC too and so on), but my question is the above and i kindly ask you not to point out the thing i mentioned in this P.S.. Many Thanks to all!
There might be some issues using chinese phones, that might or might not happen on other devices. (Some apps just don't want to work on my Ainol Novo7 Elf for example)
My best bet for you would be to buy an "old" phone from Samsung or HTC.
If you would give us an aproximate price range, we may be able to help you better-ish
nejc121 said:
There might be some issues using chinese phones, that might or might not happen on other devices. (Some apps just don't want to work on my Ainol Novo7 Elf for example)
My best bet for you would be to buy an "old" phone from Samsung or HTC.
If you would give us an aproximate price range, we may be able to help you better-ish
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Thanks for the reply.
This is exactly what i want to understand. If we forget about the chinese phone for a moment; how is app compatibility determined? Are there requirements or something else?
In other words, why shouldn't an app (i'm not talking about heavy 3D games, of course) run on a random Android device (which have all working features and stuff, like for example a random Android-based Samsung phone has)?
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions &
Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting
Moving to Q&A
Thanks. Anyone can help me or suggest something else?
I thought I'd share the news since I haven't seen it posted anywhere
http://xbmc.org/theuni/2012/07/13/xbmc-for-android/
and here's the video
http://youtu.be/y4o-k1DxF5w
Can someone compile the source so we can have an apk to test please?
XBMC For Android
July 13th, 2012
We have been keeping a little secret.. the kind that is so much fun to share when the time comes.
Today we announce XBMC for Android. Not a remote, not a thin client; the real deal. No root or jailbreak required. XBMC can be launched as an application on your set-top-box, tablet, phone, or wherever else Android may be found.
The feature-set on Android is the same that you have come to expect from XBMC, no different from its cousin on the desktop. Running your favorite media-center software on small, cheap, embedded hardware is about to become a hassle-free reality. And as Android-based set-top-boxes are becoming more and more ubiquitous, it couldn’t be a better time. In fact, primary development was done on a Pivos XIOS DS set-top-box. And that is no coincidence, you will notice that Pivos is now listed as an official sponsor (more on that later). XBMC is stable and works great there, as well as on various tablets and phones. Though with Android, as many of you probably know, that is only the beginning of the story.
Enjoy the stereotypical dev-shot low-quality demo video. More video, including phone/tablet usage in the next post.
So what’s the catch? None… in time. Currently, for most devices only software decode of audio and video is hooked up. We considered waiting until universal hardware decode was ready before making our announcement, but in the end decided that in the spirit of keeping things open and working with our ever-expanding community, it made sense to open up sooner rather than later. We are confident that an OpenMax-based player (similar to the one used for the Raspberry Pi) will spring up very quickly. That said, software playback of most media plays quite well already.
Though, there is one exception. As Pivos sponsored a large portion of the port, we were able to work with their vendors to achieve buttery-smooth hardware-accelerated playback on the XIOS DS. It remains to be seen if such hardware-specific features will make it into XBMC mainline or exist as patches for vendors to integrate.
While, as you can see in the video, the port is fully usable and lots of fun to play with, it’s not quite ready for prime-time. We will begin releasing apks for interested beta testers in the coming weeks. But for those who are up to the task, as you would expect from XBMC, the source code is available. We have decided not to push to Google Play until we are satisfied that users with all kinds of devices get the same great XBMC experience. We ask that our users stay on the lookout for evil-doers trying to cash in on XBMC’s popularity. If you see anyone masquerading as XBMC, please be sure to let us and Google know about it.
There is also the issue of having a proper UI for small-screen devices. Typically, XBMC skins have been designed for use on a TV, so use on a small phone can be clunky. But there is nothing keeping skinners from creating more functional touch-oriented skins, like the included “Touched” skin from Jezz_X. With the community’s help, we’re sure to have a more refined version available for inclusion by the time we release a stable version.
There are still many details left to iron out, mainly related to the wide variety of Android devices in the wild. We have not yet decided what minimum requirements will be set, due simply to the lack of extensive testing on exotic devices.
As for taking advantage of Android itself, we haven’t even scratched the surface. There are so many interesting features that we could take advantage of: launching apps, location awareness, speech recognition, on and on. Once the core port is finished up, you can bet we’ll be exploring many new avenues.
I could write for days about how the port started, how it was accomplished technically, what tricks were used, etc, but I will save that for a (somewhat more personal) follow-up post. There is much to say about the process that would likely bore most readers, but I will try to answer the questions that come up in the comments as much as possible in that post. The port was a big effort with many contributors, many thanks to Davilla, Memphiz, Phaeodaria, Montellese, Topfs2, and everyone else who was involved.
Full disclosure: I have been working for Pivos for the last few months, where I suggested the port-work and XBMC sponsorship. I hope our users join me in a thanking them for supporting XBMC and allowing me to work on the port (among other things) during the day. Be sure to check out the Pivos forums, where discussions and unofficial builds are bound to spring up quickly.
would like to see this soon as I use XBMC for years on my HTPC and also on my Raspberry Pi
So hope some1 brave enough and with appropriate skills can make this apk for testing
ThaDSman said:
I thought I'd share the news since I haven't seen it posted anywhere
http://xbmc.org/theuni/2012/07/13/xbmc-for-android/
and here's the video
http://youtu.be/y4o-k1DxF5w
Can someone compile the source so we can have an apk to test please?
XBMC For Android
July 13th, 2012
We have been keeping a little secret.. the kind that is so much fun to share when the time comes.
Today we announce XBMC for Android. Not a remote, not a thin client; the real deal. No root or jailbreak required. XBMC can be launched as an application on your set-top-box, tablet, phone, or wherever else Android may be found.
The feature-set on Android is the same that you have come to expect from XBMC, no different from its cousin on the desktop. Running your favorite media-center software on small, cheap, embedded hardware is about to become a hassle-free reality. And as Android-based set-top-boxes are becoming more and more ubiquitous, it couldn’t be a better time. In fact, primary development was done on a Pivos XIOS DS set-top-box. And that is no coincidence, you will notice that Pivos is now listed as an official sponsor (more on that later). XBMC is stable and works great there, as well as on various tablets and phones. Though with Android, as many of you probably know, that is only the beginning of the story.
Enjoy the stereotypical dev-shot low-quality demo video. More video, including phone/tablet usage in the next post.
So what’s the catch? None… in time. Currently, for most devices only software decode of audio and video is hooked up. We considered waiting until universal hardware decode was ready before making our announcement, but in the end decided that in the spirit of keeping things open and working with our ever-expanding community, it made sense to open up sooner rather than later. We are confident that an OpenMax-based player (similar to the one used for the Raspberry Pi) will spring up very quickly. That said, software playback of most media plays quite well already.
Though, there is one exception. As Pivos sponsored a large portion of the port, we were able to work with their vendors to achieve buttery-smooth hardware-accelerated playback on the XIOS DS. It remains to be seen if such hardware-specific features will make it into XBMC mainline or exist as patches for vendors to integrate.
While, as you can see in the video, the port is fully usable and lots of fun to play with, it’s not quite ready for prime-time. We will begin releasing apks for interested beta testers in the coming weeks. But for those who are up to the task, as you would expect from XBMC, the source code is available. We have decided not to push to Google Play until we are satisfied that users with all kinds of devices get the same great XBMC experience. We ask that our users stay on the lookout for evil-doers trying to cash in on XBMC’s popularity. If you see anyone masquerading as XBMC, please be sure to let us and Google know about it.
There is also the issue of having a proper UI for small-screen devices. Typically, XBMC skins have been designed for use on a TV, so use on a small phone can be clunky. But there is nothing keeping skinners from creating more functional touch-oriented skins, like the included “Touched” skin from Jezz_X. With the community’s help, we’re sure to have a more refined version available for inclusion by the time we release a stable version.
There are still many details left to iron out, mainly related to the wide variety of Android devices in the wild. We have not yet decided what minimum requirements will be set, due simply to the lack of extensive testing on exotic devices.
As for taking advantage of Android itself, we haven’t even scratched the surface. There are so many interesting features that we could take advantage of: launching apps, location awareness, speech recognition, on and on. Once the core port is finished up, you can bet we’ll be exploring many new avenues.
I could write for days about how the port started, how it was accomplished technically, what tricks were used, etc, but I will save that for a (somewhat more personal) follow-up post. There is much to say about the process that would likely bore most readers, but I will try to answer the questions that come up in the comments as much as possible in that post. The port was a big effort with many contributors, many thanks to Davilla, Memphiz, Phaeodaria, Montellese, Topfs2, and everyone else who was involved.
Full disclosure: I have been working for Pivos for the last few months, where I suggested the port-work and XBMC sponsorship. I hope our users join me in a thanking them for supporting XBMC and allowing me to work on the port (among other things) during the day. Be sure to check out the Pivos forums, where discussions and unofficial builds are bound to spring up quickly.
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Just found out about this awesome finally a full fledged media player for android. Awesome cant wait to use it!!
ThaDSman said:
Can someone compile the source so we can have an apk to test please?
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I might give it a try. Here a shove in the right direction if anyone is interested: (forum won't let me post this link)
okay... since I just registered I can't leave a link here... great. Well. head over to github forward slash xbmc, then go to the docs folder and choose README.android
Apparently does not work on tegra devices yet.
Well I'm not sure
Check Paul O'Brien's tweets
http://t.co/omqFxuSr -- (@PaulOBrien)
blucmal said:
Apparently does not work on tegra devices yet.
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XBMC APK
So for you guys who can't wait for official release here is the leaked XBMC APK for test. Direct download link >>> and direct web page Miniand Forums >>>
I have installed it on my Transformer but unfortunately I've tried to start it, it just closed
But I also installed it on my HOX and its running fine
Enjoy and post back you findings
Some screen shots from first run
nice touch optimized skin included so its much easier to operate than with the standart Confluence skin
So as you can see from settings info that 2 or more core devices are not supported fully in this unoficial release. for now all load goes on 1core
Looks nice for the first alpha release.
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Looks nice for the first alpha release.
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you should go to Settings/Apperance and change your Skin to Touched much easier to operate.But nice video cheers
does any1 know why is it closing on my Transformer ? Here is my logcat file
cheers
rikardo1979 said:
does any1 know why is it closing on my Transformer ? Here is my logcat file
cheers
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I've heard that the tegra 2 devices will have to wait for the official release. Allthough i doubt it very much.
I have the same issue. It won't start.
Hopefully we can get XBMC working on the TF101 before the Official release.
Hi guys,
I've just found that we allready have one thread about XBMC apk allready opened and it have more replies so I would suggest to go and discuss over there
XBMC APK
Thanks
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So as you can see from settings info that 2 or more core devices are not supported fully in this unoficial release. for now all load goes on 1core
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Thread closed to prevent further posting, continue in mentioned thread.
Thought I would bring this up here, given how many of us like to game with emulators on our Shield Tablets.
It is currently on Kickstarter, but the thing about this one is that the actual product already exists and works - the guy has been making similar adapters for years with very good feedback. The funding is needed to rationalise the production costs by being able to order a large enough run on parts.
Anyone interested in a product like this please back this one and share it widely to social media, this missed funding on one round already given it's relatively niche appeal.
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Thought I would bring this up here, given how many of us like to game with emulators on our Shield Tablets.
It is currently on Kickstarter, but the thing about this one is that the actual product already exists and works - the guy has been making similar adapters for years with very good feedback. The funding is needed to rationalise the production costs by being able to order a large enough run on parts.
Anyone interested in a product like this please back this one and share it widely to social media, this missed funding on one round already given it's relatively niche appeal.
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Maybe it wasn't noticed by advertising it in an Android tablet section of a modding site... :/
Maru OS - providing Ubuntu -like "convergence" feature for our beloved Kenzo/Kate
Hi.
While browsing XDA,
Just came across this great post on xda feed. - https://www.xda-developers.com/maru...-to-nexus-7-2013-flo-other-ports-in-progress/
And I thought - this could be excellent, if, could be developed for our beloved Kenzo with the help of collaboration amongst a few Kenzo Devs.
This could - if implemented - manage to keep us on the excellently compatible Android OS while providing with a feature much awaited by lovers of the same.
@Umang96 @Ashish94 @xyyx @TheStrix @TheDarkStrix @mistercheese @Bitti09 @kairi_zeroblade @Plamb1r @abhishek987
Also, as I could make out, this is based off of AOSP, so maybe, if interested, perhaps @xyyx and other AOSP-based developers could also include just the commits in their own ROMs to make them an even awesome-er experience for themselves and their users!!!
Even though we have neither MHL compatability (I'm not too sure if that's a hardware related additional thing, or if a few commits might solve that issue as well), nor an HDMI slot in our phones, Maru coupled with Chromecast seems like a pure dream come true!!!
Would love it if you guys could please look into this. I know all you wonderful people are already devoting your precious time to other projects, but, and I firmly believe - a collaboration amongst you, if you guys would work together, perhaps as (MaruTeamKenzo), that could certainly make it possible sooner than anyone could expect !!
Cheers, and loads of love to all you amazing people!!!
bumpardo bumperty bump!
shanx_verma said:
bumpardo bumperty bump!
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Bumping after 1 hour? Really?
Bump yet again.
To users who poll - please leave a comment, as I cannot view your names.
It well be a great idea
I want remix os
Nice initiative, I would really like a hybrid OS for kenzo as well.
But you can do this already.
Linux Deploy + VNC ( or stream desktop to DLNA if you need it on television )
More advanced personal computing
Hey,
I just dropped by as I to have just stumbled upon! MaruOS.
It sounds interesting, as dies what Samsung have done with the S8 docking mode and what Cannonical had been aiming for with Ubuntu (seems like that's now faded). (even Project Ara/greybus had some promise beyond mobile until it was canned)
However, I actually found Maru while looking for projects that might run more than classic mobile apps on a mobile platform. The current model is fine for a lot of things - games, communications, note taking, productivity, activity tracking etc....
But I want more. I want mobile devices that are active in the web (both local and online). I want IPFS to be feasible. I want to be able to serve up offline content in my locality (a la piratebox).
We can't realistically expect stable platforms is we hack all of that into ROMs, so why not container's?
Containerised server apps on mobile would be unmittigatedly cool.
Sure the hardware, particularly battery, is restrictive, but having run multiple Docker images on both a Pi and a cheap-ish (<80GBP) Intel-based Ubuntu machine (tbh Rasbian on a Pi made 'bunty on Intel look a bit pathetic for Docker usage in performance and stability - possibly storage or chipset limited, but still...) I think we're approaching a time when it's viable.
Imagine flexible, opt-in local cloud apps powered by smartphones & an orchestration tool. The cost of providing infrastructure and hardware to support events/gatherings could drop through the floor....
... obviously that's a bit of a tangent from the aim of Maru right now, but it's (if I understand this correctly) running Debian with android compatibility, so including Docker (or plain LXC) and an orchestrator for managing images/containers, along the lines of an app manager for traditional mobile "apps" doesn't sound impossible (and I'd settle for CLI on a touchscreen if it gave me the ability to fire up a server on my phone, or test a new tool without a laptop).
It does seem to be in line with the original concept of mobile devices being more than smartphones nowadays, with much more potential than we currently use...
p.s.
I know this is a bit of a rambling post, but local webs (potentially synching back to wider web via IPFS or plain old git), the ability to participate personally on line with real tools, not just feeding the advertisment-powered content machines is really appealing to me. It's not likely to be mainstream any time soon, but you've got to start somewhere.
I want remix os