[Q] Crack underneath screen and oil from phone - Sprint HTC One (M9)

So, I received my HTC One M9 and activated it April 1st. There seemed to be nothing out of the ordinary. However, I just noticed that there seems to be a small crack under the screen. This is a crack that is not on top of the screen but underneath the main screen. You only see it when the phone has a dark screen and when the right angle of light hits it.
Now, I haven't dropped, banged, stomped, hit, bumped, squeezed, etc. my phone. I have used it just the exact same as I used any other HTC phone I have had (EVO 3D, EVO, EVO LTE, and M7). None of them have had this issue. I was reading some other forums and they think it could have something to do with overheating of the phone causing the internals to flex and crack the digital display or they thought it could be from pressure.
My questions are these. First, does anyone else have this problem? The crack is almost not noticeable unless under the certain light conditions. That is why I think it might have been there the whole time and I just didn't notice it. Second, do you think that is why HTC came out with the Uh-Oh program? They realized that there was some issue where the phones could crack internally from normal use and didn't know how to fix it? So, in a brilliant marketing/damage control, they unveiled the Uh-Oh program in an attempt to right what they found to be wrong?
Also, the two other forums which seem to apply are the following. The first is the one with the S4 users who noticed a crack under the screen. The second is the more interesting one and as I type this I think this is what happened to my phone. I noticed an oily substance that was in the middle of my clear case. I thought I spilled something on it and just didn't notice to clean it up. Now I realize that probably came from inside the phone. I have no idea what happened but I know it was from nothing I did. Just curious if anyone else experienced this. I'll submit photos once I can take a picture at a good angle.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454092
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439410

bpdamas said:
So, I received my HTC One M9 and activated it April 1st. There seemed to be nothing out of the ordinary. However, I just noticed that there seems to be a small crack under the screen. This is a crack that is not on top of the screen but underneath the main screen. You only see it when the phone has a dark screen and when the right angle of light hits it.
Now, I haven't dropped, banged, stomped, hit, bumped, squeezed, etc. my phone. I have used it just the exact same as I used any other HTC phone I have had (EVO 3D, EVO, EVO LTE, and M7). None of them have had this issue. I was reading some other forums and they think it could have something to do with overheating of the phone causing the internals to flex and crack the digital display or they thought it could be from pressure.
My questions are these. First, does anyone else have this problem? The crack is almost not noticeable unless under the certain light conditions. That is why I think it might have been there the whole time and I just didn't notice it. Second, do you think that is why HTC came out with the Uh-Oh program? They realized that there was some issue where the phones could crack internally from normal use and didn't know how to fix it? So, in a brilliant marketing/damage control, they unveiled the Uh-Oh program in an attempt to right what they found to be wrong?
Also, the two other forums which seem to apply are the following. The first is the one with the S4 users who noticed a crack under the screen. The second is the more interesting one and as I type this I think this is what happened to my phone. I noticed an oily substance that was in the middle of my clear case. I thought I spilled something on it and just didn't notice to clean it up. Now I realize that probably came from inside the phone. I have no idea what happened but I know it was from nothing I did. Just curious if anyone else experienced this. I'll submit photos once I can take a picture at a good angle.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454092
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439410
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Here are some photos of the crack. Again, this is under the screen. The third image is a copy of the second but with the crack outlined since it is hard to see. Does anyone else have this?

I doubt they created the replacement program for this. I doubt heat would make a crack like that (not on the edge).
It may be just a scratch or contamination underneath and not a crack.
I'd be curious what it looks like with a screen protector on it (glass or plastic).
If the phone is working good, and it's not a "growing crack", and you can only see it when off, I'd tend to leave it and save your replacement claim for a more serious injury.
I don't see anything like that on mine.

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I doubt they created the replacement program for this. I doubt heat would make a crack like that (not on the edge).
It may be just a scratch or contamination underneath and not a crack.
I'd be curious what it looks like with a screen protector on it (glass or plastic).
If the phone is working good, and it's not a "growing crack", and you can only see it when off, I'd tend to leave it and save your replacement claim for a more serious injury.
I don't see anything like that on mine.
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I agree i doubt ut oh was created for this reason. They had a very similar program with the m8 that was for 6 months im sure they just made the program even better to try to compete since phones are just starting to plateau.

mswlogo said:
I doubt they created the replacement program for this. I doubt heat would make a crack like that (not on the edge).
It may be just a scratch or contamination underneath and not a crack.
I'd be curious what it looks like with a screen protector on it (glass or plastic).
If the phone is working good, and it's not a "growing crack", and you can only see it when off, I'd tend to leave it and save your replacement claim for a more serious injury.
I don't see anything like that on mine.
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Just curious, what would seeing it with a screen protector do? I am going to probably wait to send it in but either way, I don't think it is my fault. It's great they will replace it under their Uh-Oh program but it makes me feel like I am paying $100 for their mistake. If this wasn't there, I could get $100 toward my next phone.

bpdamas said:
Just curious, what would seeing it with a screen protector do? I am going to probably wait to send it in but either way, I don't think it is my fault. It's great they will replace it under their Uh-Oh program but it makes me feel like I am paying $100 for their mistake. If this wasn't there, I could get $100 toward my next phone.
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You're talking about the $100 that wasn't there to begin with? I don't remember HTC giving me a $100 check when I bought the phone. You're not paying for anything because nothing is coming out of your own pocket. At least they give you a replacement without having to sign up for some TEP or whatever Sprint offers these days.

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You're talking about the $100 that wasn't there to begin with? I don't remember HTC giving me a $100 check when I bought the phone. You're not paying for anything because nothing is coming out of your own pocket. At least they give you a replacement without having to sign up for some TEP or whatever Sprint offers these days.
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That is the $100 I am talking about. I guess I am worrying about the future. I will be out $100 if I buy another HTC phone. Since it doesn't seem like that big of a deal to you, I will gladly accept $100 from you if I buy another HTC phone and need to send this one in under the Uh-Oh program. If I can't count on your donation, I will be out the $100 in the future due to an issue that is not my fault. That is simply my point.

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That is the $100 I am talking about. I guess I am worrying about the future. I will be out $100 if I buy another HTC phone. Since it doesn't seem like that big of a deal to you, I will gladly accept $100 from you if I buy another HTC phone and need to send this one in under the Uh-Oh program. If I can't count on your donation, I will be out the $100 in the future due to an issue that is not my fault. That is simply my point.
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Again, it's $100 that neither of us actually have from HTC. My point was that even if you didn't claim it under the uh oh program, there's no guarantee you won't need to use it the entire year. Anything can happen. Why worry about the future now?
Have you tried contacting HTC to see if it's a manufacturer's defect? I'm fairly certain defects would be covered under their warranty and you won't have to claim it under the uh oh program.

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Again, it's $100 that neither of us actually have from HTC. My point was that even if you didn't claim it under the uh oh program, there's no guarantee you won't need to use it the entire year. Anything can happen. Why worry about the future now?
Have you tried contacting HTC to see if it's a manufacturer's defect? I'm fairly certain defects would be covered under their warranty and you won't have to claim it under the uh oh program.
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If things happening now affect my future, then I worry about it and figure out what to do.
I actually did contact HTC and they are willing to take it back to verify if it was a manufacturer defect or not. They have a program where they ship you a replacement phone and then you ship them back your broken phone with a prepaid label. However, under that program you are automatically required to file it under the Uh-Oh program and there is no going back. They gave me the option just to send it to them and a level 2 tech was going to track it and give me the option to get the phone back if it was going to be an Uh-Oh claim. I was told they would send a shipping label but haven't received an email back with the label. I plan to call them again to confirm I will get a shipping label but haven't had the time yet.
Thanks for your thoughts. Not sure how this will play out but I will be reaching out to you if I buy a new HTC phone when it comes out. :laugh: (Hopefully my sarcasm comes out in my posts).

bpdamas said:
If things happening now affect my future, then I worry about it and figure out what to do.
I actually did contact HTC and they are willing to take it back to verify if it was a manufacturer defect or not. They have a program where they ship you a replacement phone and then you ship them back your broken phone with a prepaid label. However, under that program you are automatically required to file it under the Uh-Oh program and there is no going back. They gave me the option just to send it to them and a level 2 tech was going to track it and give me the option to get the phone back if it was going to be an Uh-Oh claim. I was told they would send a shipping label but haven't received an email back with the label. I plan to call them again to confirm I will get a shipping label but haven't had the time yet.
Thanks for your thoughts. Not sure how this will play out but I will be reaching out to you if I buy a new HTC phone when it comes out. [emoji23] (Hopefully my sarcasm comes out in my posts).
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No worries. I'll start a gofundme account in your honor lol
Keep us posted on what happens. I don't see how this would be an Uh oh claim if you didn't do the Uh oh. Guess I better go read the fine print again.

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No worries. I'll start a gofundme account in your honor lol
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Cha-Ching!!!!!

I think the Uh-Oh Protection is very clever. Let's say, in a year, you've never had an issue that the heavy duty aluminum and thick glass can't handle. Now the HTC One M10, (or MX, as I think it's going to be called because of marketing) just hit the market at the same time as the Galaxy S7, the LG G5, and the Xperia Z-WhoGivesADamn and you're trying to decide which you want.
But wait! $100 off? Well gee. That's hard to pass up!
Alternately, fine print time...
HTC drops the "One" line. You go to a store to use your $100.... And they point out that the exact text is "If you don't need a replacement, we'll give you $100 toward the purchase of your next HTC ONE" .... But there is no more HTC One. Unless you want another m9.

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[Q] Display defect or...not?

Hi guys,
New thing, i notice this on both i9100 phones (the one i sended back and the new one from today). There are like to almost same dimension parallel stains/distortions(?) on the bottom half of the screen and you can notice them only if is dark/semi-dark in the room and your phone is in front of a monitor/hdtv with a withe screen, in other conditions they can't be notice and from what i can tell they don't alter the image in any way. I will post a image from the first phone (the second one is almost the same) if you guys notice them or not, or you have a theory, please post.
Thanks.
Looks to me like a small manufacturing mark or defect in the polarising filter on the screen. I wouldn't be concerned with this, i doubt you'll ever get an LCD that doesn't have something like this.
the reason it is only showing up in front of a TV or screen is because the light coming off it is polarised. normally this shouldn't be visible, so the manufacturers aren't concerned
Somebody please correct me if i am wrong
No, i'm not concerned. I think is probably from the machine that holds the glass during production or assembly (because there are two i9100 with the same shape of the stains). I just wandered if other owners of i9100 notice the same thing with their phones, but from what i see nobody bothers...oh well, thanks anyway.
Well my phone doesn't have that. And phones I've had before haven't had that. If it doesn't bother you then that's fine...personally I'd be and would get a replacement.
These phones should be *perfect*
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Well my phone doesn't have that. And phones I've had before haven't had that. If it doesn't bother you then that's fine...personally I'd be and would get a replacement.
These phones should be *perfect*
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Ok sir, i will play this game, lets talk facts:
- This is my second phone after returning the first phone with the same problem and some package issue.
- The two phones come from the same online retailer but diffident distributors, this means is bigger than a batch problem.
- The problem is almost identical (two stains same shape), but visible only in one condition (mentioned above) and only from a very wide angle (btw if you tilt the phone in that light and angle the stains change color from darker to lighter).
- It doesn't affect in any way, shape or form the generated image, it can only be seen with the lcd off and in a fluorescent light.
- If you return for the second time the device, you have to wait for betwin 2-10 days (again) for the service department to come with a resolve and you risk to get a money back resolve, witch mean from 4-14 days to transfer your money in your bank account and after you start from the beginning with another retailer (all retailers have the same distributors).
With all above taken into account, honestly, what would you do?
*Hellover, let's play a game*
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I think you're very unlucky to get a replacement with the same problem. Like I said, mine has an absolutely perfect screen, and given the fact this is an expensive flagship handset, everybody should have a perfect screen. Even on cheap phones I've never seen the poor screen QC that I've seen on the GS2, it's a shame. But NEVER accept anything less than flawless. Imagine the blob gets bigger and distorts the image somehow? You will be angry!
Personally, it would be hassle waiting for a replacement or a refund etc, but I'd much rather have my money back or a flawless phone, than hold on to a clearly flawed one. It's bothered you enough to post up on XDA about it. Seriously man, just return it. Maybe get a cheap phone and wait til the Nexus Prime comes out...
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*Hellover, let's play a game*
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I think you're very unlucky to get a replacement with the same problem. Like I said, mine has an absolutely perfect screen, and given the fact this is an expensive flagship handset, everybody should have a perfect screen. Even on cheap phones I've never seen the poor screen QC that I've seen on the GS2, it's a shame. But NEVER accept anything less than flawless. Imagine the blob gets bigger and distorts the image somehow? You will be angry!
Personally, it would be hassle waiting for a replacement or a refund etc, but I'd much rather have my money back or a flawless phone, than hold on to a clearly flawed one. It's bothered you enough to post up on XDA about it. Seriously man, just return it. Maybe get a cheap phone and wait til the Nexus Prime comes out...
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GOD Damm it...man! Now i have to w8 for the "money back guarantee!!!"... i send it back because of YOU!....no man, thanks, you are right, i will settle for one with flawless everything. I attached a picture with the old one and the ex new one side by side.
I will change the retailer. lets hope third is a charm...
Later.
Well, third device, second retailer, same defect. I'm done, i didn't try the withe version but then again i don't like withe, so i will keep this one.
That sucks man. You could upgrade to galaxy nexus soon though!

Crooked screen replaced by TEP?

Just noticed my screen is slightly crooked. Is this covered by total equipment protection from sprint. Anyone have experience?
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LostRib said:
Just noticed my screen is slightly crooked. Is this covered by total equipment protection from sprint. Anyone have experience?
Sent from my EVO 3D
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I've had the same feeling about my screen ever since I purchased it.
Not sure if this is covered under TEP. I would imagine the issue would be but not sure if they are able to open the device up and center or if you have to receive a replacement device. Also, not sure if a replacement device would have the same issue or not. I haven't seen very much posted on this but I've always wondered whether the screen is crooked or not!
Is there an application or a method you used to determine the screen was crooked?
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I've had the same feeling about my screen ever since I purchased it.
Not sure if this is covered under TEP. I would imagine the issue would be but not sure if they are able to open the device up and center or if you have to receive a replacement device. Also, not sure if a replacement device would have the same issue or not. I haven't seen very much posted on this but I've always wondered whether the screen is crooked or not!
Is there an application or a method you used to determine the screen was crooked?
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I just noticed if you use the web browser and scroll up and down you can see the scroll bar get closer/farther away from the screen edge
I had the crooked screen issue when I first got the 3D. I got the phone replaced under TEP, but I had to get 2 phones before I got a good one. They did not replace it on the spot because I didn't purchase the 3D from the Sprint store. I purchased it from a guy on CL. If I would have purchased it on my account it would have been much easier, but I got lucky and got a real nice southern chick on the phone. She credited my account $100 and then told me to replace it through Asurion. The 1st one they sent me was even worse as far as the crooked screen goes. The second one was perfect and have been happy ever since. When I took it into the Sprint store the employee looked at it and then compared it to his and said that he had never seen the problem before, but there was nothing he could do, because I hadn't bought the phone through them. I would take it to Sprint and see what they will do first.
Just find a good Sprint store. I happen to have a great store with great staff. They let me check out the new one before it was even activated to make sure the screen was straight. It was, so we made the swap. My original one (from release day) was hella crooked!
Mike

[Q] LCD bleed/smudge/damage(?) - wondering if anyone else has run into this

I searched the forums first, but all I found were cracked screens and the like. for months, my rezound has exhibited an issue in the bottom right corner of the LCD (see pics). it hasn't grown/changed or affected use, but it definitely ain't right.
the rep I showed it to at the verizon store swears that I either dropped it or pressed with the might of a thousand hulks on that portion of the screen, which in turn damaged the LCD. I say nay, nay to both, but they still won't allow a warranty replacement.
it's in a hard case five 9s of the time (took it out for pictures) and I certainly never mashed so hard on the screen that it'd cause damage. any thoughts? thanks
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I searched the forums first, but all I found were cracked screens and the like. for months, my rezound has exhibited an issue in the bottom right corner of the LCD (see pics). it hasn't grown/changed or affected use, but it definitely ain't right.
the rep I showed it to at the verizon store swears that I either dropped it or pressed with the might of a thousand hulks on that portion of the screen, which in turn damaged the LCD. I say nay, nay to both, but they still won't allow a warranty replacement.
it's in a hard case five 9s of the time (took it out for pictures) and I certainly never mashed so hard on the screen that it'd cause damage. any thoughts? thanks
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LOL for a second I thought your forum name was ****face.. Anyways back to the topic! I would honestly just call into customer care 800-922-0204 and tell them there's a defect with your display. They will make you do the stupid BS trouble shooting and pass you onto tier 2 tech. They will most likely even up giving you a warranty CLNR which you are most likely entitled to. As long as there is no physical damage/liquid damage it clearly is a manufacturer defect. As long as you're under warranty you should have no issues calling into Verizon. 9/10 times you will get nothing accomplished at a store unless its them making $$$$.
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LOL for a second I thought your forum name was ****face.. Anyways back to the topic! I would honestly just call into customer care 800-922-0204 and tell them there's a defect with your display. They will make you do the stupid BS trouble shooting and pass you onto tier 2 tech. They will most likely even up giving you a warranty CLNR which you are most likely entitled to. As long as there is no physical damage/liquid damage it clearly is a manufacturer defect. As long as you're under warranty you should have no issues calling into Verizon. 9/10 times you will get nothing accomplished at a store unless its them making $$$$.
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yea, it's sposed to make everyone look twice. I was even turned away at the DMV when I tried to get it as a vanity plate
before heading to the store, I called phone support for a warranty replacement. when the phone rep got to the part about "if this is determined to not be a warranty issue, we gonna charge your ass" (paraphrased), I declined. I figured a store tech would glance at it, shrug, then replace it no problem and I wouldn't have to worry about paying. so much for that hope...
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yea, it's sposed to make everyone look twice. I was even turned away at the DMV when I tried to get it as a vanity place
before heading to the store, I called phone support for a warranty replacement. when the phone rep got to the part about "if this is determined to not be a warranty issue, we gonna charge your ass" (paraphrased), I declined. I figured a store tech would glance at it, shrug, then replace it no problem and I wouldn't have to worry about paying. so much for that hope...
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I had the exact same issue on a replacement Verizon sent me about a month back. It was a purple looking smudge at the bottom of the screen. I called them right away and they sent me out another one.
shiftace said:
yea, it's sposed to make everyone look twice. I was even turned away at the DMV when I tried to get it as a vanity plate
before heading to the store, I called phone support for a warranty replacement. when the phone rep got to the part about "if this is determined to not be a warranty issue, we gonna charge your ass" (paraphrased), I declined. I figured a store tech would glance at it, shrug, then replace it no problem and I wouldn't have to worry about paying. so much for that hope...
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That's part of their script the whole "if its deemed not to be a warranty issue blah blah blah". Your phone has a manufacturers defect and it should get replaced free of charge. Give them a call! Best vanity plate I saw to date was ShesMad I lol'd pretty damn hard.
the whole thing about having absolutely no recourse in the event that they charge for a replacement is worrisome, but I'm feelin more confident about it being a defect now. danke
No problem and good luck!
I have a similar smudge spot on my Rezound now. It happened after I crashed on my bike and landed on the phone in my pocket.
It seems to happen with excessive pressure on the screen. The same thing happened to my Asus Transformer too, which is usually put in my backpack and has a lot of things pressing up against it quite often. Not much can be done except replace the screen, or the phone.

Had a Faulty Device, my experience so far...

So first 2-3 days with the device I kept noticing more and more issues since its been out of the box. I'm really particular with anything I own and if I'm paying money for it then I expect nothing but the best, and I'll take care of my belongings the same.
As soon as I unboxed it I noticed that some of the edges of the metal finish were unevenly colored and scratched. The dark plastic fillers on the back had patches in them and were discolored also. I told myself I wouldn't be so nitpick-ey about those. Moving on...
Later once I setup the phone I realized the power button's right side was completely sunk in, while the volume rocker was also uneven, with the Volume up Side sticking out of the device, and the Volume down Side completely flush with the device.
Concerned I took it to the closest AT&T store where I've become quite friendly with some of the sales associates there. Just wanted to get an opinion as to whether I should live with these imperfections (it would have drove me crazy). I showed it to one of them and they urged me to call AT&T support and try to set up a buyers remorse period exchange straight away.
It took two hours to deal with AT&T customer service on the phone, but it was worth it. I'm shipping this one back and they're gonna priority ship out another one soon. The representative told me they've been getting a few calls regarding such hardware issues.
I'm interested to see if any of you have had any issues yet so far. And if this is a isolated situation with a few devices manufactured at different warehouses.
As with any new product launch, there are going to be some bad ones that slip through the cracks in the rush to get the product to consumers as quickly as possible. I'm glad you got your fixed rather easily, though!
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As with any new product launch, there are going to be some bad ones that slip through the cracks in the rush to get the product to consumers as quickly as possible. I'm glad you got your fixed rather easily, though!
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Yes of course I completely agree with you. With a few product launches recently and the ones I've bought right when they were released have had issues out of the box or after major updates. The XboxOne, PS4, Retina iPad Mini, 5S etc have given me a little trouble out of the box or after their big updates, but they're still premium devices. Same with the HTC M8 that's why I didn't make too big a deal about it and seek to get my money back. I just asked for an exchange that's all. The rep that helped me, he urged me to ask for a replacement. This device is going to my daily driver for the next year and a half or so. Really happy with it minus the little issues thus far. Best mainstream android device I've ever used.
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My M8 was random rebooting every so often. It was enough to notice it as a problem. I did a factory reset, problem still persisted. AT&T gladly exchanged and now I'm good to go ???
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SO far I have the power button stick on me a few times. Pressing it a few times seems to get it to go back to normal.
Also once while on a call, afterwards the phone would not sleep. Powered the phone off. Ever since phone has been running smooth.
Glad you were able to get it exchanged. I've had mine for a few days and while there are no critical flaws, I do see some scratches that I most definitely did not cause and were there out of the box. I also know what you mean by the uneven banding because I have that too, it's very minor though. There are 2 surface scratches on the back that aren't noticeable unless you have really good eyes (which I do) and a very small chip at the front around the bezel that is impossible to cause naturally. I'm trying to tell myself I shouldn't be so picky because I've already unlocked the bootloader and put a custom rom on it and I assume if I want to exchange it at Best Buy I'll have to put the stock rom back on and lock the bootloader. I'm on the fence. I don't exactly want the Best Buy employee to think I'm crazy if I take it back plus it all takes up my time so I'm trying to tell myself it doesn't matter. If I caused the scratches I'd just live with it but it annoys me that they were there out of the box. Please tell me I'm crazy or I might actually go for an exchange.
Just got mine the other day and found a couple issues with it.
The top panel just below the front camera is pushed out a bit so there's sharp edge and stuff is already getting caught under it. You can push it down and make it flush but it pops back up after a while. Also my touchscreen will just randomly stop responding to touch. Going to reset to back to stock and exchange it later this afternoon.
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Glad you were able to get it exchanged. I've had mine for a few days and while there are no critical flaws, I do see some scratches that I most definitely did not cause and were there out of the box. I also know what you mean by the uneven banding because I have that too, it's very minor though. There are 2 surface scratches on the back that aren't noticeable unless you have really good eyes (which I do) and a very small chip at the front around the bezel that is impossible to cause naturally. I'm trying to tell myself I shouldn't be so picky because I've already unlocked the bootloader and put a custom rom on it and I assume if I want to exchange it at Best Buy I'll have to put the stock rom back on and lock the bootloader. I'm on the fence. I don't exactly want the Best Buy employee to think I'm crazy if I take it back plus it all takes up my time so I'm trying to tell myself it doesn't matter. If I caused the scratches I'd just live with it but it annoys me that they were there out of the box. Please tell me I'm crazy or I might actually go for an exchange.
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Honestly you're lucky it's Best Buy. I've done multiple exchanges there before for each: MacBook, Xbox One and iPhones. They did it easy no questions asked. At least in my case. If I were you I'd exchange it. No excuses for the device to be that scratched up and imperfect out of the box. Also remember to check for Dead Pixels, Volume Rocker, and Power Button issues.
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Honestly you're lucky it's Best Buy. I've done multiple exchanges there before for each: MacBook, Xbox One and iPhones. They did it easy no questions asked. At least in my case. If I were you I'd exchange it. No excuses for the device to be that scratched up and imperfect out of the box. Also remember to check for Dead Pixels, Volume Rocker, and Power Button issues.
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Thanks for the advice. For a little bit today I was determined to go get an exchange but I kind of buffed out the worst scratch (which was only like 3mm) with a nail buffer so I think I'll just save myself the trouble of putting the phone back to stock, having to take it to best buy, and re-flashing the new phone. Plus I did not take a backup of the stock AT&T rom. I don't know if someone has posted it in the forums, I'm going to look, but it's just such a drag to go through with putting it back to stock then an exchange.
The volume rocker doesn't sit 100% parallel but it's very close, the power button has no issues, and the bezel is pretty well flushed with the speaker grills. I think I'll just keep this one, I am also afraid that the new one might even have worse problems. HTC needs to get their quality control tighter because I have had tons of devices but never a problem out of the box.
Next time I buy a phone I am going to make sure I check the condition thoroughly. Or at least check it before I root and flash a rom. When I got the M8 I just grabbed it and went...
So I said I wasn't going to exchange it but I was still annoyed by the flaws and I was approaching my 14 days.. took it to Best Buy today without putting it back to stock and was able to exchange it. They just switched out the SIM card and gave me a new one, but they did reiterate that they don't normally do it for scratches and they were making an exception. I could totally tell they didn't believe it was the manufacturer's fault, but they didn't give me attitude and were nice. They didn't look at the software or boot screen in the old phone so they didn't even see that it was unlocked and rooted. They mentioned it was getting sent back so HTC is going to have to deal with it, which they should have to because the one I exchanged for is totally perfect. I didn't realize the other one was even more problematic than I thought until I saw how well constructed this one is. The volume rocker doesn't fumble around, the screen is set perfectly leveled with the speaker grills, no scratches on bezel or back. This is how they SHOULD come, every single one of them. In the future when I get HTC phones I am going to examine it right then and there so I don't have to go through the trouble of sounding asinine while trying to explain what the store employees surely think are non-problems.
I don't think I would've made the exchange without this thread though so thanks. I'm now free to enjoy the awesomeness of this phone without being held back by structural annoyances.
The top panel just below the front camera is pushed out a bit so there's sharp edge and stuff is already getting caught under it. You can push it down and make it flush but it pops back up after a while.

The Z3v is not waterproof, and warranty won't cover water damage.

My phone was in a pool of about 3' of water for a few seconds, with all of the ports completely closed. Ever since, the screen hasn't been responsive except for a small portion of the top left. I contacted Sony, who told me to contact Verizon, who told me to contact Sony...and on the 3rd attempt, someone at Verizon finally bridged up someone at Sony and the RMA # was then provided to me.
I sent the phone back to Sony (at my own cost), and just received it back today. They left adhesive sticking out of the gap between the glass and side trim, and left trim off the bottom of the phone, which is nowhere to be found. They also claim to have done a successful pressure test on it, but I am absolutely sure that my ports were closed when the phone entered the water. In fact, I use a Qi charger to ensure that the seals on the ports remain intact.
Here is the document they sent the phone back with.
Adhesive sticking out of the side.
Bottom trim gone.
Long story short, I loved this phone, but it is not waterproof, and don't expect support if it becomes water damaged. Very frustrating, as I am still paying for the phone via Verizon Edge.
Wow.. Looks like a novice did that job. That's horrible. Sorry for your loss!
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Same boat
I just had a similar thing happen. 10 seconds in a kiddie pool and now I have dead zones in my screen. Visiting Verizon today, any suggestions for dealing with them?
It's unfortunate your experience was terrible, especially with the kind of service they did. The thing is though, not all Z3v's are defective like yours. I've washed mine in the sink, taken it to shower, brought it to several swimming pools, and I've never had any waterproofing problems.
And in any case, I have the $8 insurance with Verizon for any problems such as dropping it or losing it. I'm sure Verizon can do something for you if you did subscribe to that.
abrown325 said:
I just had a similar thing happen. 10 seconds in a kiddie pool and now I have dead zones in my screen. Visiting Verizon today, any suggestions for dealing with them?
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Based on my experience, you're SOL without insurance. I typically don't buy insurance on phones because the monthly premium + deductible just isn't worth it on a device I can get on eBay or Swappa for $300-400.
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Based on my experience, you're SOL without insurance. I typically don't buy insurance on phones because the monthly premium + deductible just isn't worth it on a device I can get on eBay or Swappa for $300-400.
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I'm going to neglect to mention the water and see where that gets me...
I had the same experience. I had my Sony in the water with all the ports closed and it got water inside. I contacted Sony and the guy I spoke to told me I had to send it in at my own expense and they would determine if my phone was defective or if it was user error. He also told me not to hold much hope because he said he hasn't seen them replace one yet. I sent it in and they mailed it back saying it passed a pressure test so it must have been my fault. I spent $500 on a waterproof phone that lasted all of two Weeks and broke when it got wet while being used properly. I called Sony to argue my case several times and it was to no avail. I was treated very rudely by one rep and hung up on by another but most of the reps were very nice. I finally got my my case escalated to corporate office and was told sorry there are no exceptions to be made if it passed a pressure test at Sony. I will never buy anything Sony again that's how frustrated the whole process made me.
Well, I guess I'll stop bothering to call support then. I argued my case with the front line personnel, and they said they'd have a supervisor call me back within 48 hours...last Friday. Haven't heard a peep. I would hate to swear off Sony devices after this, because other than the lack of water resistance, I liked the phone very much.
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Well, I guess I'll stop bothering to call support then. I argued my case with the front line personnel, and they said they'd have a supervisor call me back within 48 hours...last Friday. Haven't heard a peep. I would hate to swear off Sony devices after this, because other than the lack of water resistance, I liked the phone very much.
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Just saying again, my phone never had waterproof problems. It's really Verizon who you should contact to get something done.
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You're wrong.
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You're wrong.
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That's cool. Just blatantly say "you're wrong" without any evidence to back it up. It's your money, your choice.
Update on ruined phone
So I contacted Sony and explained to them that my phone's screen was unresponsive and registering Phantom touches. Ileft out that it had been in water, I just told them that the camera had been overheating a lot. The guy on the phone accessed it and had me run the hard reboot. He said he could see that it was trying to run files in the background, but nothing was happening. Since my phone was under the one year warranty, he said it was covered and I was mailed a replacement. I was pretty surprised and impressed by customer service. Just remember to be kind and explain everything youve done to address the issues ( soft and hard reboots, system restore, played in the configuration menu). I'm not surprised to see Sony reverse their stance on waterproofing, but I am very disappointed.
Yeah, you're wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about, lol.
Did you even read my original post, or do you just troll around for ways to massage your ego on Internet forums?
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Yeah, you're wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about, lol.
Did you even read my original post, or do you just troll around for ways to massage your ego on Internet forums?
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Yeah, I did read it and I was trying to direct you to Verizon since you have no better access to a replacement than them. If that doesn't workout, you may as well just purchase one from eBay since prices of the Z3v are driven down pretty low now in expectation of what's supposed to be the successor's release.
If you don't want my help, that's fine. I've done my fair share on this topic and I've been able to help plenty of others in development as well as achieving root first on a ROM that is still unannounced on its official release.
Good day and good luck finding a solution.
It sounds as though you still haven't read my original post.
Verizon would not do anything for me since I do not have insurance on the phone. Sony inspected it and would not honor the warranty because the board had corrosion on it and the phone tested airtight.
So why are you still here? Also what do you expect us to do, more then the advice that was given? You didn't have insurance , the claim has been denied. Time to take personal responsibility for not having insurance, you have run out of options.
I had something of a similar issue but with a good ending. For a few weeks my charge cover wouldn't close right all of the time because the seal came partly undone from but I could sometimes get it back in flush. One day at work I guess it just wasn't the case because after about a minute in the bottom of a pool, it turned off. Never had water proof issues before( in the shower, other times in the pool, fish petting tank). It took a full 15 business days at there facility in Texas but they replaced the phone so I guess the guys there couldn't get the flap to seal either for the pressure test.
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