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My question is will the boot loader be locked? I'm currently on the Rezound (my first android phone) and I like the fact that I'm still s-on so that i can't truly brick the device... so do we think that we will be able to develop roms using s-on and just unlock that boot loader using TWRP Amon Ra or the other(can't remember name)
Word on the street says the bootloader will be locked.
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Yeah, chances are, it's locked. And I know that a lot of developers won't touch the device, even if there's a temporary work around. So if it is indeed locked (and it probably is), I wouldn't expect any development until (or if) it's unlocked.
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Yes it will most likely be locked. And I think devs on vzw will support a device like the note 2. Look how much development the sgs3 got before it was even unlocked. Kexec is pretty easy on Samsung devices so I'm not worried about lack of development.
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If its a Verizon phone then the chances of a locked Bootloader are 99.999% likely. In the world of IT 5 Nines is what you shoot for and Verizon shoots customers first.
locked vs. encrypted
Just a clarification: Locked and encrypted are two entirely different animals. Even the Nexus devices are locked, but they're not encrypted. The bigger question here is will the GNote II be encrypted? And, if so, will it be unencryptable?
100% locked. Has Verizon ever released an unlocked phone on launch?
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Just a clarification: Locked and encrypted are two entirely different animals. Even the Nexus devices are locked, but they're not encrypted. The bigger question here is will the GNote II be encrypted? And, if so, will it be unencryptable?
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If we go off of history, then it will be encrypted. Only time will tell if we get around the encryption.
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100% locked. Has Verizon ever released an unlocked phone on launch?
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The original Droid.
bsweetness said:
The original Droid.
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The OG Droid was locked afaik, but poorly. But, there have been at least 3 unlocked devices on launch, Fascinate, Charge, and Stratosphere were all unlocked and didn't require anything to flash them. I believe the LTE Tab 7.7 was as well, and OG 7" Tab. The Nexus and SGS3 were the first two locked Samsung phones on VZW.
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The OG Droid was locked afaik, but poorly. But, there have been at least 3 unlocked devices on launch, Fascinate, Charge, and Stratosphere were all unlocked and didn't require anything to flash them. I believe the LTE Tab 7.7 was as well, and OG 7" Tab. The Nexus and SGS3 were the first two locked Samsung phones on VZW.
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The original Droid was definitely shipped with an unlocked bootloader out of the box. Nothing needed to be done. A lot of GSM users were upset when the Milestone was released because unlike the unlocked Droid, it had a locked and encrypted bootloader.
I had forgotten about the Charge, Fascinate, and Stratosphere, which were indeed released unlocked as well.
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The OG Droid was locked afaik, but poorly. But, there have been at least 3 unlocked devices on launch, Fascinate, Charge, and Stratosphere were all unlocked and didn't require anything to flash them. I believe the LTE Tab 7.7 was as well, and OG 7" Tab. The Nexus and SGS3 were the first two locked Samsung phones on VZW.
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What's up man? Trollin the note 2 forums as well? You thinking about getting one too?
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Droid DNA at this point is looking like it's going to be UNlockable through htc dev. Plus, unlocked as a gsm phone too. Kinda can give some hope to future note 2 owners. If not, hopefully there will be a leak good the encrypted boot loader like sg3.
Galaxy s3 was unlocked almost day1. Doubt this will be any different.
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jmill75 said:
Galaxy s3 was unlocked almost day1. Doubt this will be any different.
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IIRC, it was like a week or two before that guy got it unlocked.
Looks like its back to k-exec until they get it unlocked.
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Galaxy s3 was unlocked almost day1. Doubt this will be any different.
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The S3's bootloader was only unlocked due to a leaked bootloader without encryption. So while the chances of this happening again with the Note 2 exist, it's not something that is a given.
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The S3's bootloader was only unlocked due to a leaked bootloader without encryption. So while the chances of this happening again with the Note 2 exist, it's not something that is a given.
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I hope this will not be like Apple products and how long it can take to have some of those devices jailbroken. I think in one instance they waited over a span of a year?
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The S3's bootloader was only unlocked due to a leaked bootloader without encryption. So while the chances of this happening again with the Note 2 exist, it's not something that is a given.
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I was going to post this too. It really was a lucky thing. Some phones never got their bootloaders unlocked.
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Jeff_in_LA said:
I was going to post this too. It really was a lucky thing. Some phones never got their bootloaders unlocked.
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I'm not entirely sure if it was all just luck. Samsung doesn't like locking their phones down, so I wouldn't be surprised if they "accidently" misplaced a few things along the way to allow access for those who really wanted it. Of course, there's no guarantee of the same thing happening with the Note 2.
I have been hearing around the xda community that this wonderful device will be joining the blacklisted devices over at at&t and Verizon. I am referring to the bootloader. Any good news out there?
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Oops. Does this belong in questions and answers ?
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Yes it does go in Q&A.
There are working models at best buy. I'm not 100% sure how you would check...probably just boot into the bootloader and see what it says.
The T-Mobile version boot loader is usually unlocked.
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Think we will have to wait and see really.
Not sure when pre orders will ship, but we should be able to find out April 11th
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I'm not buying until I know for sure. Even then I might go with HTC since KNOX Security sucks.
I'm gonna tell T-Mobile as soon as I get mine that everything's working fine, don't want a replacement, but note that knox was already tripped when I got it. Ha ha
Not sure how they can dispute that later for warranty issues.
Even though I'm probably not going to root it or anything for a while.
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T-Mobile WILL have LOCKED BL
Guys here
This time around it looks like AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile will have S5 with locked bootloader. (Only Sprint's S5 will have unlocked BL).
1. AT&T started with S4 and continued the tradition there after (G2, N3 etc.) (Also no dev edition AFAIK)
2. T-Mobile started with LG G Flex and looks like it will continue the tradition with S5. (Source) (Also no dev edition AFAIK)
3. Verizon started who knows when? (At least verizon is nice enough to have Dev edition, albeit expensive as hell).
What does all this mean?
Well you can't have "traditional" custom recovery so that means NO ASOP, NO custom Kernels etc.
You can have a recovery called "Safestrap" which will allow you to flash only TW based ROMs and simple MODs such as bootanimations but nothing more.
That is possible.
Not a confirmation that the T-Mobile variant with be locked though.
With the most recent update to the s4 they could have made it locked but they didn't as far as I can tell. Just has knox on it.
Still will need to wait and see I guess.
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coming from a you s4
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Yup. I like the idea of a faster processor. Even if marginal. The finger print reader and water resistance.
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Everyone knows development only really takes off after about 6 months to a year. Give the devs time to crack the possible locked bootloader.
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Everyone knows development only really takes off after about 6 months to a year. Give the devs time to crack the possible locked bootloader.
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Lol. Look at AT&T's N3 forum
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Lol. Look at AT&T's N3 forum
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Or anyone who has taken the S4 MF3 or later updates...safestrap only. I dont know why ppl do OTA's these days its never anything to help us only to hinder us.
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I got a tmobile s4 and note 3 both with updated 4.4.2 bootloaders and they are not locked. what att do or verizon has nothing to go with tmobile. as far as the lg flex that was lg decision not tmobile as they are all locked. knox has nothing to do with a locked bootloader. I do not see tmobile locking the bootloader
Tmobile decided to lock z1s bootloader. Trend is pointing in the wrong direction if you ask me. Hopefully they don't lock it.
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chrisram88 said:
Tmobile decided to lock z1s bootloader. Trend is pointing in the wrong direction if you ask me. Hopefully they don't lock it.
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T-Mobile made Alcatel lock the OneTouch Fierce and they'll do it some more apparently.
T-Mobile Secure Lock.
Haven't seen that on any device so far and the article is almost a year old.
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TheArtiszan said:
Haven't seen that on any device so far and the article is almost a year old.
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Alcatel OneTouch line are because of Secure Lock, and are still modern phones they are selling. You have the burden of proof on your hands. I for one wouldn't buy a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5 before knowing 100% it's unlocked or unlockable. Besides... the Note 3 is still unlocked and quite a comparable device!
We'll see in a few weeks.
I got my unlocked TMO S5 today and all is working great except that I cant get isis to work now. Any ATT users have any luck with this? Found something on an LG forum where they edited the build.prop and got it to work but the instructions looked pretty specific to that phone.
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baskln said:
I got my unlocked TMO S5 today and all is working great except that I cant get isis to work now. Any ATT users have any luck with this? Found something on an LG forum where they edited the build.prop and got it to work but the instructions looked pretty specific to that phone.
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no, you're not the only one. i tried and tried and said screw it and went with google wallet.
Ya it makes me sad just because of the cool promos going on right now. I tried with a custom rom as well with no luck.
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Has anyone had any success with this yet?
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I'm also interested if anyone has found a work around.
I can't guarantee that this will work but its worth a shot. I know it worked on my Verizon Note 3 when I had it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482708
That appears to help get past root which I have no issue with. I keep getting secure element issues even though I'm using the new secure sim card.
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baskln said:
That appears to help get past root which I have no issue with. I keep getting secure element issues even though I'm using the new secure sim card.
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Oh ok. Getting the secure element issue straightened out has been a plague for awhile. I know that was an issue with getting Google Wallet to function on the Note 3 for quite some time. I'm not sure if they ever got that issue resolved on the T-Mobile Variant.
Here's a link to the forum where they were working on getting Wallet to work on the Note 3. The build prop change you mentioned is in there, but it doesn't allow the secure element to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2476093
Just wondering if FoxFi is working for you unlimited users, like myself and my g/f, since I have no doubt it will be a VERY long time, if at all root is achieved, especially with the news about root tripping knox and bricking the phone.
I can use foxfi the same way as I did with the note 4. Will still require you to have a passworded lock screen and install a certificate.
Okay and thank you
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I can use foxfi the same way as I did with the note 4. Will still require you to have a passworded lock screen and install a certificate.
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Hmm, not working for me...? It let me use fingerprint for security. Could this be why?
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Mine is working fine.
shizumie said:
Hmm, not working for me...? It let me use fingerprint for security. Could this be why?
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Mine works fine as well. I just followed the instructions and it works.
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Mine works fine as well. I just followed the instructions and it works.
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Well crud! I hope it's "operator error" and I'm just stupid! Lol
Did you guys get the app from the play store, of a different version. And could you possibly tell me exactly what steps you took
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If not, I understand, but this is the last thing I need on my phone (other than root).
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Mine is working fine.
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Well crud! I hope it's "operator error" and I'm just stupid! Lol
Did you guys get the app from the play store, of a different version. And could you possibly tell me exactly what steps you took
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If not, I understand, but this is the last thing I need on my phone (other than root).
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All I did was download from the play store and let it create the certificate to set up a VPN or something like that.
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All I did was download from the play store and let it create the certificate to set up a VPN or something like that.
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I did the same thing!
Are you guys on vzw? I have tried several times, Uninstaller and tried some more. I keep getting the subscription pop up.
I cancell and try again over n over n over lol. Still a no go for me. ?
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Are you guys on vzw? I have tried several times, Uninstaller and tried some more. I keep getting the subscription pop up.
I cancell and try again over n over n over lol. Still a no go for me. ?
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Yes I'm on vzw. Set up a passworded lock screen and let the application install a certificate. You must use the foxfi app to actually launch the WiFi tethering.
Also working fine for us. My husband has a Edge+ and I'm Note 5.
I downloaded TDM and it keeps it unlocked at home & in the car.
Also, just followed the steps given by the app. Not much to do, just agree to install VPN, once - first time, then it asks to open stock Hotspot app and turn it on.
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Still cann9t get this to work on wifi Hotspot for me. I just get the vzw pop-up over and over. No matter how many times I try.
Heck if I know?
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You click the connect in foxfi? Then click the popup that takes you to the hotspot page to turn on? Mine works fine
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I don't need FoxFi. I have a mobile hotspot subscription for free from Verizon. It's part of my plan.
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I just bought this mint condition galaxy s4 sch-i545 off of my friend. I want cyanogen mod because that is what I usually get on my phones, but my friend updated this phone and there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Is there a way that I could switch out motherboards from a junk phone to this nice phone in order to get the unlocked bootloader? I need the MDK bootloader or below to be able to get the new rom, or I could switch out with a phone that is already unlocked. But can I swap motherboards?
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I just bought this mint condition galaxy s4 sch-i545 off of my friend. I want cyanogen mod because that is what I usually get on my phones, but my friend updated this phone and there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Is there a way that I could switch out motherboards from a junk phone to this nice phone in order to get the unlocked bootloader? I need the MDK bootloader or below to be able to get the new rom, or I could switch out with a phone that is already unlocked. But can I swap motherboards?
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good luck finding one you need a board thats still running =< 4.2.2 aka firmware ending with VRUMDK
Is there also a possibility that I could also switch a board from another carrier? Like if I found a sprint or T-Mobile board could I switch that.
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Is there also a possibility that I could also switch a board from another carrier? Like if I found a sprint or T-Mobile board could I switch that.
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carrier would need to support verizon's frequency and have the right modem sprint/t mobile are no go .. might be-able to make a ST/ATT device work if its dual modem
honestly I would't bother just get Moto X or LG phone
s4 is dead period ..finished ..done