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Thanks HTC for bring a bigger mp camera to a phone that's suppose to be the little brother of the m8.........
http://mobile.theverge.com/2014/5/...tes-the-companys-flagship-phone-in-a-trimmed
...because we're ALWAYS complaining about the MP on our camera when we just upload the photos to instagram and fb..
You can't say that for ALL users. A lot of people don't need a expensive camera to take pics. Especially if you want to use that pic past Facebook etc. All I'm saying is instead of adding a second camera. HTC could have added more to the m8 to help keep it from being the same camera with a second camera. End of the day 4mp camera is a 4mp camera
When I want to use my pics past loading onto social apps. I use my note 3. But if I want to use this pic to upload then yes either my m8 or note 3 will do the job just fine
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I'll agree that what smartphone camera is "better" depends on how you in particular use the camera. But just because a camera has more MP, does not make it "better" either. We'll have to wait and see if the camera on the One Mini 2 actually yields better quality images than the M8.
Unless you are blowing up or cropping photos a lot, 13 MP is too much and a joke for a camera phone. High MP smartphone cameras really struggle in low light. And unless you are taking pictures outdoors in broad daylight, its often low light.
I'll agree that HTC probably should not have opted for the dual camera on the M8. Kinda cool at times, but also pretty gimmicky. The money probably would have been better spent improving image quality on the single rear camera (even if not to increase the MP).
It's kinda a slap in the face to a certain degree. Here is the new m8 with the same camera with a secondary camera which is mostly gimmicky while nice at the same time. Then they decide to make the new HTC one mini from a 5 mp camera to a 13MP camera...........
Now will it have better pics? Probably not or probably so. For most people it don't matter, but after being in retail when trying to sell a customer the one the camera is its downside cause on PAPER the 4mp camera doesn't sound good at all compared to the other smartphones out in the market. People will buy the mini 2 because of it has higher mp count than the m8. While the m8 blows the mini in other specs that 13MP camera looks a lot better to somebody who doesn't care to have the latest and greatest specs.
While a higher mp count doesn't make a camera phone any better yes, but why bring the same thing to the table for your flagship but have a mid range phone with a better spec camera on paper WHEN it comes to mp count. .
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903tex said:
but after being in retail when trying to sell a customer the one the camera is its downside cause on PAPER the 4mp camera doesn't sound good at all compared to the other smartphones out in the market. People will buy the mini 2 because of it has higher mp count than the m8.
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Unfortunately, Average Joe is always going to fall for that marketing gimmick of chasing big numbers, without having any real understanding of what they mean. How many times have you seen someone with a fancy, big screen 1080p TV; and the owner just has a standard definition program on it; and not even in the right aspect ratio (so the picture is all stretched out to fill the screen). That kinda crap drives me crazy!
I for one applaud HTC for turning their nose up at the megapixel arms race. Its gotten absurd. I mean seriously, do we really need a smartphone with a 41 MP camera? Of course not (I understand its actually a really good camera, but not because its 41 MP).
903tex said:
While a higher mp count doesn't make a camera phone any better yes, but why bring the same thing to the table for your flagship but have a mid range phone with a better spec camera on paper WHEN it comes to mp count. .
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That is a really good point. Why push a certain marketing strategy (and one that particularly bucks the trend) for one device, then do nearly the exact opposite for another device.
In any case, I don't think that the Mini 2 will really compete directly with the M8. Price point alone, even the Average Joe Blow is going to know its a flagship versus a "budget" phone. Don't know about the One Mini in particular, but for the most part, any HTC phone aside from the "flagship" tends to sell in extremely low numbers. At least here in the US (don't know about other regions).
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Unfortunately, Average Joe is always going to fall for that marketing gimmick of chasing big numbers, without having any real understanding of what they mean. How many times have you seen someone with a fancy, big screen 1080p TV; and the owner just has a standard definition program on it; and not even in the right aspect ratio (so the picture is all stretched out to fill the screen). That kinda crap drives me crazy!
I for one applaud HTC for turning their nose up at the megapixel arms race. Its gotten absurd. I mean seriously, do we really need a smartphone with a 41 MP camera? Of course not (I understand its actually a really good camera, but not because its 41 MP).
That is a really good point. Why push a certain marketing strategy (and one that particularly bucks the trend) for one device, then do nearly the exact opposite for another device.
In any case, I don't think that the Mini 2 will really compete directly with the M8. Price point alone, even the Average Joe Blow is going to know its a flagship versus a "budget" phone. Don't know about the One Mini in particular, but for the most part, any HTC phone aside from the "flagship" tends to sell in extremely low numbers. At least here in the US (don't know about other regions).
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The same reason we need 4k Tv's and 2k screen on smartphones. To keep making them money lol! Exactly why say your not going to follow the trend but all your other phones are right in the trend? Lol but HTC could have tried a little harder for the m8 speaking of the camera of course. The phone is rock solid but don't have these commercials making fun of these mp trends and being different when your other devices join right in with today's trends.
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Some of my favorite shots have come from the camera on my M8. In terms of higher quality, I'm actually looking at the Sony G Lens, since it is supposed to take really nice shots, and is $200 at my local best buy.
Some people such as my self want a phone with camera and some prefer cameras that can be used as a phone.
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You can't say that for ALL users. A lot of people don't need a expensive camera to take pics. Especially if you want to use that pic past Facebook etc. All I'm saying is instead of adding a second camera. HTC could have added more to the m8 to help keep it from being the same camera with a second camera. End of the day 4mp camera is a 4mp camera
When I want to use my pics past loading onto social apps. I use my note 3. But if I want to use this pic to upload then yes either my m8 or note 3 will do the job just fine
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If I want to use my pics for something worthwhile, I use my Canon EOS.. otherwise I use a crappy phone camera.
lets all cut the crap. the camera is nice on the M8 and i do agree. to a certain degree. mega pixels don't make the camera. but it sucks for details when blowing up pictures or zooming we dont need 20 mp. but i think we should have something alittle higher
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lets all cut the crap. the camera is nice on the M8 and i do agree. to a certain degree. mega pixels don't make the camera. but it sucks for details when blowing up pictures or zooming we dont need 20 mp. but i think we should have something alittle higher
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reviews for the one mini 2 have started surfacing. in ideal conditions it is resolving a lot more detail, by a huge margin. but anything other than ideal and the m8 takes it.
i think the 2.0 pixel size is great and all, but i think we couldve benefited a lot for 1.8 sized pixels and an extra megapixel. that configuration shouldn't lead to a large camera hump.
i'm happy with what i got either way, i do miss the old OIS from my old m7. but whatever, the m8 has proven to be a capable shooter. and my nx300 is always on stand by in case i need a real camera
Any advice on rooting the Mini 2. I receive it tomorrow from carphone warehouse (379sterling.) Has the original Mini gained from official CM11 support thus far?
Any insight on how to root my forthcoming mini 2 and gaining cwm and porting roms would be greatly appreciated.
Does anyone know what phone o could potentially port from for the Mini 2.
How difficult to root and install a custom cwm recovery?
Hello community!
I have just bought the new HTC One Mini 2, it is locked with EE network. It looks like I am unable to get the unlock code anywhere. Do you have any suggestion or advice?
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what sucks is having a super light sensitive camera.. while living in Florida. It's always bright unless you paint your windows black.
So what if it has a camera with higher MPs. That doesn't make it a better phone than m8. Unless HTC comes up with a device having the same internals as the m8 but a better camera resolution, I don't see what is there to fuss about.
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what sucks is having a super light sensitive camera.. while living in Florida. It's always bright unless you paint your windows black.
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I'm not so sure that having a more sensitive sensor (while better for low light situations) necessarily means that there will be too much light in bright situations. The camera controls the sensitivity (ISO based on the old "film speed" terminology) as well as the aperture (f-stop). It might be that the automatic exposure that the camera is trying to achieve (balance between ISO, aperture and shutter time) is too bright for your local conditions. In which case, you can manually lower the exposure by tapping the 3-top menu button in the camera app, tap EV and lower the exposure value.
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I'm not so sure that having a more sensitive sensor (while better for low light situations) necessarily means that there will be too much light in bright situations. The camera controls the sensitivity (ISO based on the old "film speed" terminology) as well as the aperture (f-stop). It might be that the automatic exposure that the camera is trying to achieve (balance between ISO, aperture and shutter time) is too bright for your local conditions. In which case, you can manually lower the exposure by tapping the 3-top menu button in the camera app, tap EV and lower the exposure value.
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I've messed with all the settings. I appreciate the feedback though...
Unfortunately, if i have any picture with a bright spot from the sun the whole picture gets washed out. Full indoor is fine and full outdoor is fine. But daytime pictures indoors with sun coming in the window- washed out. Granted- if i still lived in Philly (or most parts of the country) i doubt it would be an issue.
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I've messed with all the settings. I appreciate the feedback though...
Unfortunately, if i have any picture with a bright spot from the sun the whole picture gets washed out. Full indoor is fine and full outdoor is fine. But daytime pictures indoors with sun coming in the window- washed out. Granted- if i still lived in Philly (or most parts of the country) i doubt it would be an issue.
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Any camera will have issues if there are areas in the frame which are very bright, or spotty lighting (mix of bright and darker spots). Or does it seem worse with the phone? Often forcing the focus to a different spot by tapping the screen helps a lot.
SONY Xperia Z Ultra 2 [Desired Specifications]-To Encourage Better All-In-One Phones for the Future
I have been looking at developments in mobile phones and the current XZU/ZU GPe and some of the Chinese competition to the big brands and decided to make the following list of desired features in a near-future phablet. I believe a phablet with all the below listed features will definitely be the Ultimate Mobile Phablet. I hope that someone from SONY or any other competitive brand will take notice of the desired specification below to create the best phablet that will stand out from the crowd. My aim is to encourage discussion and draw the attention of manufacturers and I really hope that someone will take notice.
I have also read on various blogs online and also read on XDA that there is a rumour that the XZU/ZU GPe may be discontinued and that a successor may not be released. I really hope that this is not the case and that SONY will release a device that will put all the wrongs of the 1st gen device right and better them. There is not much wrong with the form factor of this device. what is wrong is SONY's implementation or non implementation (lack of led flash, stylus) of features that are important to a growing userbase that is keen to use one device as an all-in-one phone and tablet user.
Given how much space is wasted on the construction of the XZU/ZU GPe, I have decided that since there is not much difference between 6.45" and 6.95" that this size be the most optimum/maximum size for the Phablet category of devices and that any device that starts with 7.0" or above to be in tablet category so I hope that I won't be criticised for this choice of screen size. Furthermore, with the rest of the specification I have tried to be as realistic as possible given the current implemenations of most of the technologies listed below by many well known and Asian manufacturers (ZTE Nubia X, ZOPO, LG, Huawei, Alcatel One Touch Hero, Vivo and many others) Enjoy the reading and have fun!
6.95” Inches Thin Bezel True Capacitive Touchscreen, 16M Colors Triluminos Display with 2K 2560x1440 Resolution, X-Reality and E-Ink Mode for Battery Efficient E-Book Reading
Integrated Wacom or N-trig Active Digitizer Stylus
Qualcomm® Snapdragon™805/810 with 2.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor with Krait 400
Integrated Glasses Free 3D Content Viewing
3GB RAM
32GB/64GB/128GB Internal Memory Options
Dual SIM+Dual Standby 2G/3G/CDMA/LTE/LTE-A/TD/FD-LTE All Versions Worldwide 2-in-1 microSIM Tray
MicroSD Slot with up to 128GB Expandable Capacity
Dual Dolby Surround Sound Stereo Speakers and 3.5mm Jack
Quad Microphone with Noise Cancellation and HD Sound
Primary: 20.7Mp 4K, OIS, Auto Focus, Dual LED Camera with Simultaneous HD Video and Image Recording, Geo-Tagging, Touch Focus, Face and Smile Detection, Image Stabilization, Panorama, HDR
Secondary: 13Mp, 1080p, Auto Focus Front Facing Camera
Integrated Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Dual-Band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi Hotspot
Integrated GPS with A-GPS/GLONASS Support
Accelerometer, Gyro, Proximity, Compass
Bluetooth 4.0 with NFC, A2DP and LE
Infrared IR Port
Stereo FM and DAB Radio with RDS
Mini HDMI with MHL Integration
MicroUSB 3.0 with USB On-the-go, USB Host and Magnetic Charging
Wireless Charging
Removable Li-Ion 4250mAh/5000mAh Battery
Dust and Water Resistant Metal Construction
- Fingerprint sensor (PayPal certified)
- IP58 certified - dust and water resistant
- Water resistant up to 1 meter and 30 minutes
Android 4.4.3/4.5 with Dedicated SONY Pro Xperia Launcher and UI Optimisations and Hybrid Tablet UI Option.
179.5 x 92.2 x 7.9 mm
215-225 g
3 Yrs Dedicated Worldwide Warranty with Express Care Service
Colours Options; Pure Black, Pure White and Carbon Black and Carbon White with Full Body Colour
on the Front Bezels as well as the Back.
OPTIONAL ACCESSORIES:
SONY Bluetooth 4.0 Detachable Full QWERTY 5 Row Keyboard with Case
SONY Bluetooth 4.0 NFC Speaker Dock
SONY Wireless Charging and microUSB 3.0 Sync Plate
SONY Xenon Quad LED Video Light with 3.5mm Connection
SONY Rechargeable Battery Case 10000 mAh for Extended 4K Pro Use
SONY SmartWatch 3 with Dedicated XZU Apps
SONY Duo Dual Micro/USB Flash Drive for External Backup
SONY XZU Handheld Expanding Tripod Accessory
SONY External 720p/1080p Mini Projector Dock
Ask that waterproof with removable battery? I didn't think so.
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Jammol said:
Ask that waterproof with removable battery? I didn't think so.
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Think about the Samsung Galaxy S5 which has some form of water and dust resistancy. I am happy with this level of protection for the sake of having a removable rear cover.
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Think about the Samsung Galaxy S5 which has some form of water and dust resistancy. I am happy with this level of protection for the sake of having a removable rear cover.
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The ZU has a removable back, just a little heat and a guitar pick will do it
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The ZU has a removable back, just a little heat and a guitar pick will do it
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True but it wouldn't be too much to ask Sony or another brand to give us a user removable/replacable back cover. If Samsung and others can why can't Sony?
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True but it wouldn't be too much to ask Sony or another brand to give us a user removable/replacable back cover. If Samsung and others can why can't Sony?
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One thing with the xperia range is that a friend of mine left her's on the roof of her car car over the weekend, came off at ~80km. Battery stayed intact and she could find it with GPS. Try that with a removable battery.
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6.95” Inches Thin Bezel True Capacitive Touchscreen, 16M Colors Triluminos Display with 2K 2560x1440 Resolution, X-Reality and E-Ink Mode for Battery Efficient E-Book Reading
I would like the size to remind the same so if they can increase screensize without making it much bigger then cool. Wont mind it either way really.
As far as I am concerned, I wont mind it to still be 1080p. Too many people playing the numbers game
Integrated Wacom or N-trig Active Digitizer Stylus
That would be cool!
Qualcomm® Snapdragon™805/810 with 2.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor with Krait 400
Better be 810 by the time if comes out but more important that the new CPU speed...can we get a damn processor that runs cool enough where it does not slow down. Whats the point of super fast processor that can only run that speed for a few minutes before having to slow down due to thermal issues?
Integrated Glasses Free 3D Content Viewing
I love 3D!
3GB RAM
agree
32GB/64GB/128GB Internal Memory Options
Agree
MicroSD Slot with up to 128GB Expandable Capacity
For sure...no google style nonsense here without MicroSD slots
Dual Dolby Surround Sound Stereo Speakers and 3.5mm Jack
could be cool but the sounds is going to be lame anyway..its physics lol
Primary: 20.7Mp 4K, OIS, Auto Focus, Dual LED Camera with Simultaneous HD Video and Image Recording, Geo-Tagging, Touch Focus, Face and Smile Detection, Image Stabilization, Panorama, HDR
As a photographer, what I want to see is at most a 12MP camera , wouldnt mind if it was 8MP in order to get better low light quality. I dont care for this silly MP race in such tiny sensors. When I want and need a big quality image, I use my camera.
Integrated Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Dual-Band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi Hotspot
Integrated GPS with A-GPS/GLONASS Support
Accelerometer, Gyro, Proximity, Compass
Bluetooth 4.0 with NFC, A2DP and LE
Infrared IR Port
Stereo FM and DAB Radio with RDS
Mini HDMI with MHL Integration
MicroUSB 3.0 with USB On-the-go, USB Host and Magnetic Charging
Wireless Charging
Removable Li-Ion 4250mAh/5000mAh Battery
I am willing to sacrifice thickness for a removable battery!
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I added my comments to some of the things I would change from your specs.
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True but it wouldn't be too much to ask Sony or another brand to give us a user removable/replacable back cover. If Samsung and others can why can't Sony?
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Because Samsung settles with subpar build quality. Sony does - or tries, not to.
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If it has a removable back and battery it could only be water resistant, not waterproof. Unless they come up with some new tech that makes the back cover seal each time, which I doubt would happen anytime soon on a smartphone.
This phone doesn't need to be any bigger than it already is. I have huge hands and it still stretches me a bit and I have to use both hands sometimes. I will definitely not be getting the new one if the size increases. Also it's too thin. Yes it is sexy, yes it is sleep and it might be the thinnest or whatever, but that inevitably causes it's downfall which is why so many were/are cracking from being in the pockets. If it's going to be so thin, it needs to be more rigid, or just make it flex!
Not So Finally.....BEZELS!!! OMG!!! I understand why they are so huge at the top and bottom, but damn they could have at least made them off the screen, just like the ION. Damn I miss that phone for that feature. Next ZU should have OFF SCREEN navigation buttons like the ION did.
I don't personally use Flash, but at least put a better/Great camera on the thing!!!
16GBs is way too small!!! It's 2014, WTF SONY?!!! From Last year onward, NO HIGHEND SMARTPHONE SHOULD HAVE ANY LESS THAN 32GB of freakin' STORAGE MEMORY!!!! MY DAMN FLASHDRIVE HAS MORE THAN MY FREAKING PHONE!!! It classified as an Entertainment Device is it not?! At least that's what the lady in the promo video and photos was using it for!!! Can't watch all them movies with 16GBs! And yes I know that's what an SDCard is for. That's why I own one. But it would be nice to have more device storage!
Cases!!! It needs cases!!!
A waterproof devices with removable battery is possible. But it won't be as thin nor as solid.
I'm afraid 7" is a bit to big for me. Used to owned 2 7" phone enable tablet. But it's too wide for the pockets.
I also owned the T2 ultra as well, it's an impressive device which fix most of ZU problem but add in a few mid ranger problem as well.
I would be happy if the Z2U has a bigger screen but at the same width, a flash, better camera, 2 front facing stereo speakers and a 64bit processor.
Not sure if I want a 2k screen. The T2 can lass at least 10 hours of screen on time at the same battery capacity as the ZU. I also happens to own the vaio pro 11 during the fire sales. Do hope sony bring carbon fibre to the xperia lines.
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Dual sim, 64gb & 128gb internal memory, Dolby, Quad microphone, 13mp Secondary camera, Removable battery all are too much to expect, and I doubt would happen in the next ultra device.
6.2 inch with QHD, IPS kind of Z2 (lower power i suppose), 3400mAh battery, snapdragon 805, 3GB of RAM, thicker profile max at 7mm, no shatter proof sheet, dual stereo speaker like Z2, and 13mp with 2x clear zoom (or 5mp downsampled quality) Then I'm sold. Big bezel down and top, that's ok, as long as there are speakers below.
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Has to have a very good front facing camera for them selfies.
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Must be 6 mm thick.
Hi-fi sound.
2 speakers or a decent one. Heck the speakers may resemble the looks of 4k bravia tv's speakers, there is room for it.
21 mp first camera, 5 mp front.
Paypal enabled fingerprint sensor.
6.2" qhd screen.
Fast charging.
Must keep the top and bottom bezels or hello to ghost touches.
Make it more fingerprint friendly please.
The outer frame can be metallic but not shiny (apple slate) not black.
Camera shutter button would be great.
Snapdragon 805.
3 gigs of ram.
Noise cancellation earphones out of the box.
More cases.
And a goodbye letter to galaxy note 4 in a romantic way.
Well, some of the desired spec you need, the Chinese manufacturer has already implemented it....it just not Sony that is...
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Well, some of the desired spec you need, the Chinese manufacturer has already implemented it....it just not Sony that is...
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Above specs with Sony build quality from the Chinese? I think I'll pass.
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Above specs with Sony build quality from the Chinese? I think I'll pass.
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Well, i said it because Nubia X-6 has almost the same spec as op desired (not all but some)...like 13mp front and back, 4+++ mah battery, 2 and 3 gb ram, 2 sims, 32,64,128gb memory....same size 6.44 inch...and some...
I like the Chinese to make these kinda phone cause the olden day's they make crappy and clone phone, but now they have step up the game to make their own signature phone and what i like about them is they will put everything inside to max the hardware...all known branded manufacturer will put some of the thing big but keep some mediocre, maybe to make it not to expensive...
What i think if sony do that with their flagships, i think people will switch to sony in a flash...i know i will...
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The Ultra GPe is officially out of stock on the Play Store, so that's probably a goodbye for the GPe version.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...play-editions-out-of-stock-on-the-play-store/
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Here's to hoping for a sony zu 2
Hello,
I currently own xperia z2 but I'm thinking about changing to lg g3.
I've already had lg g2 and those devices have nice os as they have some features from Samsung.
I don't care about 1gb ram less or even waterproofness, but I'm wondering how the daily usage is.
When I've been trying the lg in a local store it seemed a bit laggy in animations. Also I'm wondering if the audio encoder for headphones has been improved, as there was some weird noise on lg g2 when listening to quiet music.
It would be nice to know the opinion of people who have already used g3 and z2, as they will probably know which one is better.
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I upgraded from lg g3 to z2 and i never been happier since and i don't regret it!!! I won't change back even if i get it for free((?))
QHD is overrated and on a 5.5 screen you'll find no difference ((only if you see with a magnifier))
To keep it simple here's a comparison for you :
LG G3 over Xperia Z2
Bigger screen - 5.5" vs. 5.2"
Higher resolution screen - 1440p vs. 1080p
Improved low-light laser-assisted auto focusing
Dual-LED true-tone flash
32GB of built-in storage is an option
IR blaster
The back cover has wireless charging support
Xperia Z2 over LG G3
IP58 certification for dust and water resistance
Bigger, higher resolution camera sensor - 1/2.3" 20.7MP vs. 1/3" 13MP
More RAM - 3GB vs. 2GB (on the 16GB LG G3)
4k, [email protected] and [email protected] video recording
Stereo speakers
Bigger battery - 3,200mAh vs. 3,000mAh
ANT+ support
Noise cancelling headphones
If you prefer screen resolution and size go g3
If you prefer performance,build quality, good camera,ram and ip58(like me) go z2
The post above sums up why i went for Z2 over any other device
I would even now simply because the price is good for what it is
1080p is still a sharp screen and with the Z2 camera you can take near profetional quality
Perfectdevil said:
I upgraded from lg g3 to z2 and i never been happier since and i don't regret it!!! I won't change back even if i get it for free((?))
QHD is overrated and on a 5.5 screen you'll find no difference ((only if you see with a magnifier))
To keep it simple here's a comparison for you :
LG G3 over Xperia Z2
Bigger screen - 5.5" vs. 5.2"
Higher resolution screen - 1440p vs. 1080p
Improved low-light laser-assisted auto focusing
Dual-LED true-tone flash
32GB of built-in storage is an option
IR blaster
The back cover has wireless charging support
Xperia Z2 over LG G3
IP58 certification for dust and water resistance
Bigger, higher resolution camera sensor - 1/2.3" 20.7MP vs. 1/3" 13MP
More RAM - 3GB vs. 2GB (on the 16GB LG G3)
4k, [email protected] and [email protected] video recording
Stereo speakers
Bigger battery - 3,200mAh vs. 3,000mAh
ANT+ support
Noise cancelling headphones
If you prefer screen resolution and size go g3
If you prefer performance,build quality, good camera,ram and ip58(like me) go z2
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Thanks for the answer, now you convinced me to stick to Z2.
I can see some info copied from the Internet
I know the specs exactly, but the performance for me is the most important.
Even the smallest laggs in OS annoy me very fast, so I guess I'll stick to Z2, although nothing can beat the OS from HTC One m8.
mr.loverlover said:
Thanks for the answer, now you convinced me to stick to Z2.
I can see some info copied from the Internet
I know the specs exactly, but the performance for me is the most important.
Even the smallest laggs in OS annoy me very fast, so I guess I'll stick to Z2, although nothing can beat the OS from HTC One m8.
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I disagree on HTC ONE m8 performance!!! Nothing beats the speed lagless AOSP!!!
htc sony samsung.... OS is a modified AOSP based OS!!!
I tried AOSP roms on my z2 they are snappy and very fast but they lack some of sony apps which i need like 4k recording,camera apps and ultra and stamina mode so i switched back!!!
If you don't care about these sony apps try AOSP and you'll see a big difference in speed!!!
I recommend pacman rom and kernel m5... Lightniiiiiiiiiiiing!!! [emoji298] [emoji298] [emoji298] [emoji298]
Yeah, I've been talking about stock based roms, where the htc is a king. Of course all of the clean android roms are faster, but the days I've been using it are gone along with note 2, as samsungs roms were always laggy.
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I'm comparing it to my old HTC 10 and the quality is night and day. It's blurry/fuzzy, the colors are washed out. It reminds me of the quality of my old cheap webcam from 10 years ago.
Because you didn't turn off all the skin toning and skin lighting junk that's on by default. I was able to shoot selfies with more detail than any model would ever want to see on themselves so I know it isn't the camera's fault.
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Because you didn't turn off all the skin toning and skin lighting junk that's on by default. I was able to shoot selfies with more detail than any model would ever want to see on themselves so I know it isn't the camera's fault.
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No, everything is disabled. It's terrible quality.
Mudig said:
It's terrible quality.
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My testing and photos say otherwise. Like I said, way more detail in the selfies I've taken than most people who sit for me would ever want to see in a photo. It's not the camera.
Hey, coming from a Nexus 6 ... this is a major improvement.
Okay let's settle this, 5 mp camera is not the best out there, especially compared to iPhone 8's new front facing camera or even Samsung's I guess, although I can only tell based on what I see on internet, as I don't own them. Makes me wonder why it's so hard to create a perfect phone? I mean you did almost everything perfectly right, put a damn 8 mp camera with ois or whatever and hit a home run, why did they choose this front facing camera is beyond my understanding
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Because the reality is that in order to actually see a doubling of resolution, you actually have to quadruple the megapixel count. So to see twice the detail of a 5mp sensor, you would have to use a 20mp sensor. 20mp at selfie cam size would be insane. The cameras that are using 16mp selfie cameras (such as the HTC U11) are actually using the main shooter from the V30. But to squeeze that extra sensor in with OIS would require more room and produce more heat which would cause issues with amp glow on your other sensors. Digital imaging can be a real P.I.T.A. even with dedicated cameras. Cellphone cameras are a miracle that they even produce anything worthwhile. And that's usually due to being conservative in your approach to what hardware you use.
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Because the reality is that in order to actually see a doubling of resolution, you actually have to quadruple the megapixel count. So to see twice the detail of a 5mp sensor, you would have to use a 20mp sensor. 20mp at selfie cam size would be insane. The cameras that are using 16mp selfie cameras (such as the HTC U11) are actually using the main shooter from the V30. But to squeeze that extra sensor in with OIS would require more room and produce more heat which would cause issues with amp glow on your other sensors. Digital imaging can be a real P.I.T.A. even with dedicated cameras. Cellphone cameras are a miracle that they even produce anything worthwhile. And that's usually due to being conservative in your approach to what hardware you use.
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Thanks! I already learned something interesting today Is that the reason why the Nokia 8 and the HTC U11 have larger bezels as well in order to have enough room to tackle these technical challenges?
emmanuelw said:
Thanks! I already learned something interesting today Is that the reason why the Nokia 8 and the HTC U11 have larger bezels as well in order to have enough room to tackle these technical challenges?
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Yes, bezels really only exist to hide hardware that they haven't figured out how to downsize or place elsewhere. To get tiny bezels, you have to use tiny camera, earpiece, and proximity sensor hardware or just get rid of them. OIS units make things much bigger as you have to put a ring of motors around the object you're stabilizing. Earpieces/speakers take up a lot of space. I'm guessing Google used the headphone jack space to add more battery and the second speaker, with the second speaker adding more bezel. Proximity sensor is probably the smallest thing in the bezels. Display drivers used to be a big contributor (Moto 360 flat tire was a display driver if I remember right) but with the modern OLED panels they just, er, tuck 'em.
Not passing judgement on the quality of the selfie cam, but I notice that as with the main camera, it too has a "wide angle" setting.
But with only the single camera, necessarily this means that the non-wide setting is digitally zoomed, plus I'd bet there's heavy software correction going on to get rid of all of the wide angle distortion. Perhaps that's asking too much from a 5 MP sensor?
However, I rarely take selfies, and when I do, I'm often trying to squeeze in the other people that are with me, or some scene in the background, so maybe I'll find the native wider angle appealing? Hard to tell in-store with all the florescent lighting.
Mudig said:
No, everything is disabled. It's terrible quality.
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Agreed, turned all that off too and it still looks like crap.
Maybe find something better looking to shoot? The camera does really well.
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Maybe find something better looking to shoot? The camera does really well.
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Lol wow dude is talking about a selfie this guy says find something better to shoot lmao.
I've never taken an awful photo with the front facing V30 camera. I really don't understand how anyone thinks it's awful.
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From my experience, it only does poorly in low light, that is, compared to 2017 flagships. I don't think it's nearly as bad a many claim it is.
If you look at a lot of of comparisons with the between the likes of the note 8, iphone x and pixel 2, it holds up really well. The biggest difference is really between the pixel 2 and pretty much every other flagship front facer, it has by far the best front facing cam on the market by a good margin imo. The v30 front cam can look really good, is just dosen't produce quite as much detail as the others, and maybe lacks in dynamic range a bit.
If you turn on flash in low light, you see better results. It’s not real flash obviously but I’ve been impressed when it gets it right.
maybe youre ugly lol jk
I saw this post on reddit,thought the guys is bluffing!But god damn!He is not bluffing!You can check your wide angle camera by taking picture and checking EXIF data after.The sharper version has 2.01 mm, the blurry one has 2.09 mm Focal length.Mine is 2.09,phone is H870 Europe version.That's why my wide angle pictures are blurry ..
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2.01 here and good photos
I have 2.01mm and European H870.
2.09 Mine doesn't look blurry though?
H872PR, 2.01 mm
Not a big photo junkie but I do enjoy the occasional wide angle shot of scenery.
2.09 but no blur. In fact looks better than normal camera most time.
Interesting, I am more inclined to believe that poor quality is from some other defect (dust or something else on the lens or inside of the glass, or who knows what), but it could be something that happens more often with one choice of assembly.
If your phone is taking demonstrably worse pictures with the wide angle lens, it seems worth getting that fixed!
2.01 here in the Canadian model.
2.01 with lgm-g600L Korean version, good photo!
same kinda fish eye distortions ?
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2.09 here - UK H870.
Ok so - what is the impact on this? I've had W/A photos taken that are not blurry at all, and some have been - it's all depended on the environment and how im holding the device - this is the same for any phone or camera going...
Is this something that can be improved on by software or are we totally limited to worse hardware?
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I saw this post on reddit,thought the guys is bluffing!But god damn!He is not bluffing!You can check your wide angle camera by taking picture and checking EXIF data after.The sharper version has 2.01 mm, the blurry one has 2.09 mm Focal length.Mine is 2.09,phone is H870 Europe version.That's why my wide angle pictures are blurry ..
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Finally! That f...cking LG. Check this wide angle photo I took yesterday in Belfast. I know that it was evening and google photos are shrinking it a bit but for me the quality is ****ty
https://photos.app.goo.gl/G4vUDhAttPzyCCiL2
Look at all those flares and generally the blurry quality.
Not only they don't provide security updates for "flagship" but they also provided some of us with crappy hardware. Definitely selling mine soon
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Finally! That f...cking LG. Check this wide angle photo I took yesterday in Belfast. I know that it was evening and google photos are shrinking it a bit but for me the quality is ****ty
https://photos.app.goo.gl/G4vUDhAttPzyCCiL2
Look at all those flares and generally the blurry quality.
Not only they don't provide security updates for "flagship" but they also provided some of us with crappy hardware. Definitely selling mine soon
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You're absolutely right,plus that photo looks like s h i t.I really like G6,except the wide angle camera and software updates.What would you get after selling yours?
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You're absolutely right,plus that photo looks like s h i t.I really like G6,except the camera and software updates.What would you get after selling yours?
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Oneplus 5t because:
1) it's cheaper
2) it's back is not from glass (my G6 is already scratched)
3) software updates are released really fast. It's bad that they won't have "project treble" but still they release quickly. For example "blueborne" has been fixed in October Google security patches? LG6 still doesn't have that and is vulnerable to attacks so I can't use my BT headphones.
4) software is fast - pure android with some nice tweaks. People say LG6 is fast. Really? Sometimes it takes 5-6 seconds for my camera app to start.
5) it's OLED
6) it's cheaper !!!
7) it has notifications slider
8) headphone jack is on the bottom of the phone !!! Really LG, headphone jack at the top of the phone is a bad decision.
Previously I had LG G3 which in the end has broken because of the hardware issue where due to extensive heat and lack of proper heat distribution in the phone, solder has weakened and display went off. I had to apply the "paper fix" to make the phone working again but who can tell me how long will it work? And fcking LG doesn't admit that is a design problem. The same thing happens with Nexus 5x manufactured by them. My friend's nexus went into bootloop just like that.
Nope, never again I will buy LG phone. Sorry LG. And whenever someone would like to buy one I will tell them not to.
bodziec said:
Oneplus 5t because:
1) it's cheaper
2) it's back is not from glass (my G6 is already scratched)
3) software updates are released really fast. It's bad that they won't have "project treble" but still they release quickly. For example "blueborne" has been fixed in October Google security patches? LG6 still doesn't have that and is vulnerable to attacks so I can't use my BT headphones.
4) software is fast - pure android with some nice tweaks. People say LG6 is fast. Really? Sometimes it takes 5-6 seconds for my camera app to start.
5) it's OLED
6) it's cheaper !!!
7) it has notifications slider
8) headphone jack is on the bottom of the phone !!! Really LG, headphone jack at the top of the phone is a bad decision.
Previously I had LG G3 which in the end has broken because of the hardware issue where due to extensive heat and lack of proper heat distribution in the phone, solder has weakened and display went off. I had to apply the "paper fix" to make the phone working again but who can tell me how long will it work? And fcking LG doesn't admit that is a design problem. The same thing happens with Nexus 5x manufactured by them. My friend's nexus went into bootloop just like that.
Nope, never again I will buy LG phone. Sorry LG. And whenever someone would like to buy one I will tell them not to.
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That's a nice choice.OP5T is better in almost everything,but don't expect some better photos from main camera.G6 has some great software with very rich manual control that you can't get in OP5T.Everything else is better,i'm also thinking about oneplus 5t,i still can't decide what to do..
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That's a nice choice.OP5T is better in almost everything,but don't expect some better photos from main camera.G6 has some great software with very rich manual control that you can't get in OP5T.Everything else is better,i'm also thinking about oneplus 5t,i still can't decide what to do..
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But with OP5T I know what I'm paying for. Lower price -> lower photo quality. I'm ok with that.
With G6 I was told it will be "amazing" but in real life it's less than average.
Definitely not a "flagship" quality
Quality of wide angle 2.09 is fine for me and I'm satisfied. (H870S - Europe dual sim version)
Wide angle camera sample: https://photos.app.goo.gl/i9am9u2iGwhTBscI3