Just for the background info i have Verizon Galaxy S6 Edge Plus. G928V 64GB Black.
I'm on build & software version OG1 or OGI is what it looks like.
because I've wanted to use find Samsung pay but I've held off all the*ota*updates waiting to see if any exploits have led to root on the s6 EDGE+ FOR Verizon.
I sideloaded the samsung Pay app and framework but when i go to run it i get the message a software update is required. Im assuming it will push through the*otasoftware-updates I've been putting it off essentially since i got the phone or 2 weeks after launch. I bought it with a contract discount but its not a financed or leases phone so i own it at least.*
My biggest concern is that i update now and lose the future possibility to root it due security loop hole. I had an S4 and i initially had mdk firmware which you could get more feautures, but without thinking when i received the phone iupdated and lost the MDK version. I just don't want to run into the same situation.
specially with having to take apart the whole phone to take out or replace battery I'm scared or running the update now and then if ivtry to root later It will brick my $750 phone.*
What do you suggest? Should i run the update the samsung pay app offers or should i run the*OTAupdates from Verizon software update menu. Then if anyone finds root or makes an6 other progress in opening up the phone.* i noticed there has been at least 2 ota
Updates ps OG4 & OG9. Im also hoping we get msrshmallow 6.0 sooner with the next*OTA*update after today's*ota*for Samsung pay support. DO you think i would run one update over another or just update to current version that was released today?
Thanks for the help in advance.
nj12nets said:
Just for the background info i have Verizon Galaxy S6 Edge Plus. G928V 64GB Black.
I'm on build & software version OG1 or OGI is what it looks like.
because I've wanted to use find Samsung pay but I've held off all the*ota*updates waiting to see if any exploits have led to root on the s6 EDGE+ FOR Verizon.
I sideloaded the samsung Pay app and framework but when i go to run it i get the message a software update is required. Im assuming it will push through the*otasoftware-updates I've been putting it off essentially since i got the phone or 2 weeks after launch. I bought it with a contract discount but its not a financed or leases phone so i own it at least.*
My biggest concern is that i update now and lose the future possibility to root it due security loop hole. I had an S4 and i initially had mdk firmware which you could get more feautures, but without thinking when i received the phone iupdated and lost the MDK version. I just don't want to run into the same situation.
specially with having to take apart the whole phone to take out or replace battery I'm scared or running the update now and then if ivtry to root later It will brick my $750 phone.*
What do you suggest? Should i run the update the samsung pay app offers or should i run the*OTAupdates from Verizon software update menu. Then if anyone finds root or makes an6 other progress in opening up the phone.* i noticed there has been at least 2 ota
Updates ps OG4 & OG9. Im also hoping we get msrshmallow 6.0 sooner with the next*OTA*update after today's*ota*for Samsung pay support. DO you think i would run one update over another or just update to current version that was released today?
Thanks for the help in advance.
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Root has been impossible even on the factory firmware that comes on the phone. Hopefully someone will find a way to disable KNOX so we could root (as it's as easy as OEM unlocking the phone through the developer options settings menu and installing a rooted firmware), but so far there hasn't been any progress...
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Yeah i know on earlier versions knox could be disabled on s4 and s5. It doesn't help that not only do we have the s6 edge but the edge plus. Our phone represents such a small subset of owners it means its like million times harder to get a phone to a developer that can actually hack it/root it
So i pulled the twist so i can use samsung pay since it finally arrived in my play store as an option. After i updated the first time samsung pay still said i need to update so o updated to the most recent software OJ2.
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Question, what is the likelihood of buying a new GS4 from a vendor and not have the newest software on the phone so that I can unlock the bootloader? Are all phones being shipped with the locked bootloader?
I recently got a "Like new replacement" from Verizon and it came without the update. I immediately turned airplane mode on and had no problem not taking the update.
I've heard other users suggesting that the version installed depends on where you buy it (i.e. from verizon or best buy).
I've also read stories from users that when buying from Verizon the salesperson will update the phone because they think the user wants the update and they do not ask first.
Hope this helps!
Got my S4 from Verizon Wireless online (delivered Monday). Did not cone with update (asked me to update right after I activated).
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Question, what is the likelihood of buying a new GS4 from a vendor and not have the newest software on the phone so that I can unlock the bootloader? Are all phones being shipped with the locked bootloader?
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I think it's a pretty good bet if you go to a Verizon store and get a 16GB model you're likely to get a non-upgraded one. Even better, search for a store that you think would see less foot-traffic and go there. Going there closer to when they close will make it much less likely that the CSR who sets up your phone will bother with the update (though you can always say your in a rush to get somewhere once they get the phone turned on).
The 32GB models seem to be much more likely to ship with the update pre-installed from what I've heard.
White models are *probably* less popular, so stores will hold onto their stock longer than the black ones, so that may help tip the scales as well.
Good luck. I wouldn't wait too long to upgrade if you're dead set on having an unlocked bootloader.
I got a black 32gb 2 weeks ago and it did not have the update. The 32 gb is only available from Direct Fill warehouses ordered from Verizon themselves AFAIK. So there's not going to be any sitting around in boxes in a store from an old shipment. So when they replenish stock in the warehouse, that's what your phone will be, brand new stock. The 16 gb, however, is likely to have been there awhile. If you go to Best Buy, you can ask them to turn the phone on before they activate it and check the version. I don't see why they'd refuse you, and I highly doubt even Verizon salespeople have any idea of what the new update means and why we don't want it.
That all being said, in my previous experience, they don't typically make the phones with new updates pre-installed until there's a new Android version. They can force the update as soon as you activate it, so there's no reason for them to make Samsung change the factory images they JTAG it with in the first place until there's a significant change (since it's always best to wipe when upgrading Android versions, don't wanna do that in the middle of someone setting up their phone). And they certainly aren't going to open up boxes and start updating them, because again, most everyone will take the update out of the box.
That being said, I would still jump now if you want this phone. There will eventually be a point when all of them come with a newer software version, and there's no way to gauge progress toward another workaround or a true unlock, so you can't bet on that. There are some reports to suggest people got the phone with the update already installed, but that seems to be more refurbished phones, since it looks like even Verizon or Samsung themselves couldn't actually roll the phones back to an older build once the signature was blacklisted in the hardware. So you should be alright ordering now, just make sure you get a new one, and don't put your SIM in. Check the version, if it has ME7 already, take it back and say the phone doesn't perform well even after a factory reset, and you've heard it's likely that update, so you'd like one without it. If it is not updated yet, root it immediately, and block or remove SDM.apk and FWupgrade.apk, and then and only then is it safe to activate the phone.
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My 16GB model came from Amazon yesterday without the update.
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Got a new update but its not 6.x its just security updates. Really doesn't say what updates as usual.
Just a monthly maintenance update
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Kinda hoping it included the WiFi calling update.
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Kinda hoping it included the WiFi calling update.
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Is it not?
findinghomer said:
Is it not?
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Nope. Just a security update as stated above.. Hopefully the update in January will include the WiFi calling.
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Nope. Just a security update as stated above.. Hopefully the update in January will include the WiFi calling.
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Which is odd, being that the update rolled out at the beginning of the month. You would think the Edge + would be a part of that rollout.
Great no Root, no marshmallows. Love the phone but this should be getting newest sw since it came out with note 5 and they're supposed to be flagship phones but vzw is taking a top spec phone and lock it down so you can't take advantage of the upgraded hardware on the phone.
We jumped on a new, plus sized version, full feauture new tech phone. We spent extra for the phone foregoing the micro sd card and user accessible battery so at least let us experience the benefits of having this phone with software that can exploit these features instead of keeping us on lollipop and locking down the bootloader and preventing root. The s5 and s4 even in lolipop are rootable along with most of the s6 and s6 edge by other US providers. At least let us utilize the features we paid the extra money for the edge plus especially mine is the 64gb version and i would've gotten the s6 edge w 128gb if i knew vz would neuter the phone capabilities.
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Great no Root, no marshmallows. Love the phone but this should be getting newest sw since it came out with note 5 and they're supposed to be flagship phones but vzw is taking a top spec phone and lock it down so you can't take advantage of the upgraded hardware on the phone.
We jumped on a new, plus sized version, full feauture new tech phone. We spent extra for the phone foregoing the micro sd card and user accessible battery so at least let us experience the benefits of having this phone with software that can exploit these features instead of keeping us on lollipop and locking down the bootloader and preventing root. The s5 and s4 even in lolipop are rootable along with most of the s6 and s6 edge by other US providers. At least let us utilize the features we paid the extra money for the edge plus especially mine is the 64gb version and i would've gotten the s6 edge w 128gb if i knew vz would neuter the phone capabilities.
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Really? Samsung needs to release Marshmallow on the hardware before Verizon can - so don't knock Verizon for "locking it down"
You don't need root to "utilize the features you paid extra money for."
Yes, it would be nice to have a rootable phone, but you knew, or at least should have known, going in that vzw phones are now nearly impossible to root.
Your heart is in the right place, but your arguments make no sense
I gave up my Note 4 Developer edition.. Which had a open bootloader and all that. I came fo this understanding I wasn't going to root, especially since theres no SDcard. I came for the pay features and other goodies. Im not missing root as I thought I would as every phone ive had since android 1.6, i rooted.
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I gave up my Note 4 Developer edition.. Which had a open bootloader and all that. I came fo this understanding I wasn't going to root, especially since theres no SDcard. I came for the pay features and other goodies. Im not missing root as I thought I would as every phone ive had since android 1.6, i rooted.
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I agree with you - this is the first Android phone I've had (and I've had them since Cupcake) that isn't rooted.
Okay, I got a good one for you guys and I'm hoping someone can give me an idea I haven't thought of yet. Here's the scenario:
I owned a Rogers Samsung Galaxy S6 edge (SM-G925W8) that I passed down to my best friend when I bought a Pixel XL last fall. While it was still my daily driver, I had gotten tired of waiting for Rogers to push the Marshmallow OTA to their customers while other carriers had already sent it out so I went on over to SamMobile and downloaded the 6.0.1 firmware from Eastlink, installed it on my device using Odin and went on to enjoy my life with the latest version of Android.
Flash forward a little more than a year and my friend is still using the S6 edge as his daily driver but a couple months ago, the USB port stopped working. Not the end of the world at the time as I had given him my wireless charger with the phone and that still works just fine. When Rogers released the Nougat update for the S6 edge, my buddy mentioned that he hadn't gotten it yet but I thought it would just be a matter of time until he got the notification that it was ready to download.
Towards the end of August, news broke that certain Samsung devices on the Rogers network would no longer be able to call 911 due to network enhancements that they were planning in the fall https://mobilesyrup.com/2017/08/30/android-6-x-lower-samsung-devices-911-calls-rogers/ Okay, no big deal we're thinking except Rogers has sent out a text message in the past week stating that any affected devices not updated by October 26, 2017 will have LTE network access removed to ensure that they can still access 911 services. Okay, so let's load up that OTA update already right? Well it just dawned on me today that since I had loaded the Eastlink firmware, that's why he's not seeing the OTA update from Rogers.
So now we gotta figure out how we're going to address this problem. He's going to take it to a repair shop in the morning to see how much it is to fix the USB port so that we can update it using Odin but he's obviously not looking to spend too much to repair a 2.5 year old phone. In the worst case scenario that the USB port cannot be repaired, what I want to know is what are my options? Will changing the CSC of the device back to Rogers result in the OTA update appearing for the device (despite the obvious downside of the device having to be factory reset and not being able to do a full, proper backup because no USB port)? Does anyone know if the Rogers (or Eastlink) OTA zip file is available to download like with Nexus/Pixel devices? (I'm doubtful but have to ask. Any other suggestions?
Thanks for reading my lengthy post and thanks in advance for any help that you can provide
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Okay, I got a good one for you guys and I'm hoping someone can give me an idea I haven't thought of yet. Here's the scenario:
I owned a Rogers Samsung Galaxy S6 edge (SM-G925W8) that I passed down to my best friend when I bought a Pixel XL last fall. While it was still my daily driver, I had gotten tired of waiting for Rogers to push the Marshmallow OTA to their customers while other carriers had already sent it out so I went on over to SamMobile and downloaded the 6.0.1 firmware from Eastlink, installed it on my device using Odin and went on to enjoy my life with the latest version of Android.
Flash forward a little more than a year and my friend is still using the S6 edge as his daily driver but a couple months ago, the USB port stopped working. Not the end of the world at the time as I had given him my wireless charger with the phone and that still works just fine. When Rogers released the Nougat update for the S6 edge, my buddy mentioned that he hadn't gotten it yet but I thought it would just be a matter of time until he got the notification that it was ready to download.
Towards the end of August, news broke that certain Samsung devices on the Rogers network would no longer be able to call 911 due to network enhancements that they were planning in the fall https://mobilesyrup.com/2017/08/30/android-6-x-lower-samsung-devices-911-calls-rogers/ Okay, no big deal we're thinking except Rogers has sent out a text message in the past week stating that any affected devices not updated by October 26, 2017 will have LTE network access removed to ensure that they can still access 911 services. Okay, so let's load up that OTA update already right? Well it just dawned on me today that since I had loaded the Eastlink firmware, that's why he's not seeing the OTA update from Rogers.
So now we gotta figure out how we're going to address this problem. He's going to take it to a repair shop in the morning to see how much it is to fix the USB port so that we can update it using Odin but he's obviously not looking to spend too much to repair a 2.5 year old phone. In the worst case scenario that the USB port cannot be repaired, what I want to know is what are my options? Will changing the CSC of the device back to Rogers result in the OTA update appearing for the device (despite the obvious downside of the device having to be factory reset and not being able to do a full, proper backup because no USB port)? Does anyone know if the Rogers (or Eastlink) OTA zip file is available to download like with Nexus/Pixel devices? (I'm doubtful but have to ask. Any other suggestions?
Thanks for reading my lengthy post and thanks in advance for any help that you can provide
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I'm almost certain the only way to flash any firmware to s6 edge or any Samsung device is through Odin. So usb port will be needed.
You can download the firmware but not as a zip to install OTA.
Another thing is you need root to change the CSC. Again which needs usb port so you can flash twrp on to it.
You can pick up usb ports pretty cheap nowadays so maybe just be best to repair it and flash it through Odin.
I just bought a used Tmobile Note 8 from Swappa. It arrived running Nougat and when I try to update, it says the device is up to date. The seller stated "Tmobile Version that has been fully paid for and unlocked. Was unlocked with Device Unlock application that come on most tmobile devices. Application automatically deletes, once unlocked."
Would the act of unlocking mess anything up with the software updates? Would they still come from T-mobile? I tried using Kies and Smartswitch to see if there was an update, but Kies isn't supported anymore and Smartswitch isn't telling me there's an update available.
Thanks.
They dont always release teh update to everyone right away. its released in stages.
You can always manually download them (from updato) and install them through odin.
Did you verify from Tmobile that the phone is not under financial obligation and is in fact unlocked through a carrier and not the seller himself?
Always do that when considering buying a used phone and never expect the seller to be telling the truth.
Verizon Devices
Get a trade-in appraisal through Verizon - you will get a message that the device is not eligible for trade-in if it is still being financed through Verizon:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/device-recycle/
Sprint Devices
Use Ting's device check - it will fail if the device is still being financed through Sprint:
https://ting.com/byod
TMobile Devices
http://www.t-mobile.com/verifyIMEI.aspx
AT&T Devices
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/#/
Enter "No" when asked if you are an AT&T customer. Then input the IMEI and you will get the message below if the device is not paid off yet:
"This device isn’t eligible to be unlocked now because all of the installment payments have not been paid."
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from: https://www.howardforums.com/showth...sed-phone-is-financed-on-all-4-major-carriers
Do not forget buy it from sumsung also.
random45 said:
They dont always release teh update to everyone right away. its released in stages.
You can always manually download them (from updato) and install them through odin.
Did you verify from Tmobile that the phone is not under financial obligation and is in fact unlocked through a carrier and not the seller himself?
Always do that when considering buying a used phone and never expect the seller to be telling the truth.
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I just downloaded the update file and used ODIN to get the T-mobile OREO goodness. All good now.
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I just downloaded the update file and used ODIN to get the T-mobile OREO goodness. All good now.
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I keep getting "hotlinking is not cool" and won't let me download.
I still haven't gotten the update either. At the store they suggested that theming or other apps could stop the updates, which seemed like bs, but I had already uninstalled all substratum layers in preparation for the update anyhow. I've tried smart switch as well but nothing is showing the update. My phone is not unlocked or rooted and running BRA9. Is it really just taking them this long to roll out?
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I just bought a used Tmobile Note 8 from Swappa. It arrived running Nougat and when I try to update, it says the device is up to date. The seller stated "Tmobile Version that has been fully paid for and unlocked. Was unlocked with Device Unlock application that come on most tmobile devices. Application automatically deletes, once unlocked."
Would the act of unlocking mess anything up with the software updates? Would they still come from T-mobile? I tried using Kies and Smartswitch to see if there was an update, but Kies isn't supported anymore and Smartswitch isn't telling me there's an update available.
Thanks.
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I bought a note 8 from TMobile February 22. I am in the Pacific NW, still on 7.1.1 and software update says I am up to date, not sure why but there it is.
Me either, Im in NW Indiana & chicken out when I saw I would have to downgrade to BRA8 to go to Oreo (on BRA9)
I have a S21, T-mobile model, G991U. It has the Snapdragon chip, not the Enyos. Last time I rooted a phone was a Motorola Charge I think it was before I tried jailbreaking the iPhone 4. Back then, manufacturers didn't try as hard to prevent modifications.
Fast forward to today. I have the T-Mobile S21 I want to root. I'll admit I am over my head, and unsure of how to proceed. First thought I could use Magisk Root, but apparently that only works for the Samsung processor. Found myself on SamPwnd's website, but only up to the S20s seem to be supported. The editor's blog here on XDA warns against using RootKing due to intrusive ads/possible malware, so that's out. Eventually found myself on a shady Polish website offering unlock that didn't pan out. It goes without saying I visited https://www.xda-developers.com/root/ and wasn't able to find anything.
Is there a legitimate root for the S21 US edition yet?
No. All S and Note series devices since the S7 have a locked bootloader in the US. Root is impossible unless you pay for a bootloader unlocking service (here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...unlock-for-samsung-us-canada-devices.4215101/) and that's not released yet. Expect to pay over $100 for the service, and expect for things to break when you do (Samsung Pay, Knox, etc).
^ This. My last Samsung was an S6 Edge, so I didn't know about the perma-locked bootloader crap on newer models. I'm sending back my preordered S21 because I can't root it and getting a Pixel 5 instead. The S21's hardware is clearly better, but it's not worth dealing that BS on the software side.