Hi,
Does anyone know if the Mega will work with an OTG cable to an external USB DAC ? If so are there just particular DACs that could work ? I've got a cable and a Fiio E10 and nothing happens with an app like Spotify or Google Play music.
Just wondering if it might work with other DACs.
Cheers,
Matt
fiio E17 + Mega 6.3 works.
scappers said:
Hi,
Does anyone know if the Mega will work with an OTG cable to an external USB DAC ? If so are there just particular DACs that could work ? I've got a cable and a Fiio E10 and nothing happens with an app like Spotify or Google Play music.
Just wondering if it might work with other DACs.
Cheers,
Matt
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scappers said:
Hi,
Does anyone know if the Mega will work with an OTG cable to an external USB DAC ? If so are there just particular DACs that could work ? I've got a cable and a Fiio E10 and nothing happens with an app like Spotify or Google Play music.
Just wondering if it might work with other DACs.
Cheers,
Matt
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Fiio E7 with USB OTG cable works.
the ever astounding HRT Microstreamer will work, and it kicks the living crap out of a Fiio any day
I've used with a Topping TP30 and been very happy when using stock ROM.
Unfortunately now I'm on CM11 and USB audio streaming doesn't work. That's the price you pay for playing around with other ROMs.
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Hi guys,
Has anyone else been able to output music via an aux cable?
I've tried 2 different cables which work with other phones and had no luck!
Also, an in car charger(cigarette lighter > mini usb) doesnt work either - again, works for other phones?!
Any help would be appreciated!
Shaz
shazad123 said:
Hi guys,
Has anyone else been able to output music via an aux cable?
I've tried 2 different cables which work with other phones and had no luck!
Also, an in car charger(cigarette lighter > mini usb) doesnt work either - again, works for other phones?!
Any help would be appreciated!
Shaz
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Same problem here. Bought 2 aux cable no sound when I use my Z2 but other phone works. My thoughts is about the Z2 Waterproof thingy just a guess. So if anyone found a fix on this let us know.
Thanks!
I have no issue with AUX. maybe something has to do with the car?
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Li-polymers said:
I have no issue with AUX. maybe something has to do with the car?
Sent from my Xperia Z2
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Im actually plugging it to my amp gives me no sound at all tried other phone its working fine. May you give us what brand of aux cable you using and where did you purchase it?
Thanks
I used belkin, from a retail, jb hi fi.
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I used belkin, from a retail, jb hi fi.
Sent from my Xperia Z2
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I'll give this one a try. I'll update you guys soon and Thanks!
Hi guys,
I'm actually having the same problem with you. I have tried different cables and cigarette lighter adapters on different cars.
I can confirm that neither charging nor aux cable works for me on the following cars: Mercedes C180, Renault Clio, Honda CRV, Ford Focus.
However, both the aux and charging magically worked on a Land Rover Defender (1973), connected to a mediocre Pioneer player. Also I do get a tiny bit of charge from the Merc's USB player port, probably for powering usb memory sticks, or players. But it is so slow it just slows the battery depleting rather than charging (better than nothing on a very long road trip I suppose, but I worry that it might hurt the battery in the long run)
I also do not get any music, if I use anything else than Sony's Walkman app when connected via Bluetooth. So i suspect this might be a software problem (perhaps to do with "throw" ?)
Anybody found a solution to these problems? Do any of you guys run the Z2 with a custom rom? if so, which one? because I'm thinking about installing a custom rom to see if that will help?
Also working fine for me. I use it daily with Viper 4 Android sound mod on stock and stock based Roms. D6503
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Hi guys,
I hate to resurrect such an old topic. I don't know if any of the other people are still using their Z2, or moved on to another device. I've recently had to replace my 3.5mm jack because it died on me. Would not work with headphones, let alone an aux cable on a car. Turns out, a replaced 3.5mm jack fixed the problem for me. So unfortunately, it is highly likely that we're having a hardware issue (something perhaps you guys can get checked out through Sony).
I have no updates on the 12V charging issue. My phone charges all ok up until it hits %30-50 (depending on how many amps the 12V charger is), than it acts as if there is a loose contact.
I hope this helps some of you people.
My old Samsung Galaxy S 2 had an audio accessories option provided by Samsung to enable USB audio output, despite it not being natively supported until recently, in lollipop.
I was just curious as to whether anyone's managed to enable the feature on the alpha. I'm presuming the feature will return when the lollipop update comes for the alpha, but kinda need it for my car radio in the short term.
Thanks.
I will try in the morning with the fiio e18 USB dac/amp. It should work out of the box
It works with stock firmware but I got some electronic noise as soon as I connected the dac with the phone. I will try to install a fresh firmware to see if it's a problem with my mainboard, drivers or something else. I'll be back
With fiio e 18 the noise is present at 0 volume from amplifier, even after firmware update. So..it could be my mainboard fault or general power circuit fault. BUT USB AUDIO OUT IS WORKING ON EXYNOS ALPHA WITH STOCK FIRMWARE. ( if you play music the noise is missing or is covered by song).
I am using my Alpha with Fiio E18... It will recognized the DAC immediately when you turn it on... stock rom no root...
I also didn't have any hiss or noise with my Alpha + Fiio E18... Very satisfied with the sound quality...
aatjitra said:
I am using my Alpha with Fiio E18... It will recognized the DAC immediately when you turn it on... stock rom no root...
I also didn't have any hiss or noise with my Alpha + Fiio E18... Very satisfied with the sound quality...
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does it sound a lot better ? maybe I should sell my E17 and get E18.
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does it sound a lot better ? maybe I should sell my E17 and get E18.
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Yes. If you are using a good quality headphones, while plugging it to the phone, you will realize that Alpha does provide a very good sound quality.... but with using DAC like E18, the result is unbelievable...
You will get eargasm for sure... The sound quality is very much better...
Maybe is a problem with my e18 or the cable. I will try with another cable.
Haven\t gotten around to actually buy one of these yet and I need the verification that one of these babies can handle system/wide external DAC via USB.
So, anyone out there who has an answer?
Cheers!
Did any testing?
I am looking for the same answer.
Seems not
I've got a P9000, about 6 months old, just got a Fiio Q1, and it doesn't seem to recognise it at all.
I know the Q1 and cable are fine, since it works straight off with a new HTC M10.
Cheers
Greg.
I don't know if a audio interface counts as a DAC, but will chime in.
Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 is recognized by system, audio playback is fine
Tested with Sporify, stock Music app, and Twitch app.
Calls are a bit buggy
Connected via a ultra cheap usb 3 OTG from Ali
Hi all,
I bought the Hidizs Sonata HD USB-C to Jack 3.5mm headphone adapter with integrated DAC.
When I connect the dongle to my Galaxy S20 (Exynos CPU) USB-C port, the device is not detected and audio output goes to phone speakers.
The strange thing is that if I connect in this mode: SONATA HD USB-C PORT to USB-C to USB-A adapter to USB-A to USB-C OTG adapter, the device is recognized by phone and works good.
It seems that the phone detects the device only if OTG (and then usb host mode) forced by hardware adapter (SAMSUNG OTG ADAPTER).
Do you think it is a problem with the S20?
Thank you!
I have the same adapter, and works for me without problems. My phone is S20 ultra 5g european version. The installed Hidizs firmware version is audio priority, software for playing music is poweramp.
serafko said:
I have the same adapter, and works for me without problems. My phone is S20 ultra 5g european version. The installed Hidizs firmware version is audio priority, software for playing music is poweramp.
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thank you serafko! I just tried on my friend phone (Samsung Galaxy S8) and the adapter works (some disconnections but works).
I have the audio priority firmware also.
I think there are some settings on my s20 that blocks the activation of the usb host mode
danielerispoli said:
thank you serafko! I just tried on my friend phone (Samsung Galaxy S8) and the adapter works (some disconnections but works).
I have the audio priority firmware also.
I think there are some settings on my s20 that blocks the activation of the usb host mode
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Activate Developer options>default USB configuration and see if mucking with the USB settings perk it up.
The S20 may not be supported by it,same issues on the 10+ with some dongles.
It must have a built in DAC chipset if the S20 doesn't provide one. I'm not sure if it does or doesn't.*
If others say it works on the S20, it should otherwise get one that's known to be compatible.
*edited, my bad
blackhawk said:
Activate Developer options>default USB configuration and see if mucking with the USB settings perk it up.
The S20 may not be supported by it,same issues on the 10+ with some dongles.
It must have a built in DAC chipset if the S20 doesn't provide one. I'm not sure if it does or doesn't.*
If others say it works on the S20, it should otherwise get one that's known to be compatible.
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I tried to change default usb configuration in developer mode but not solved. Tried all options.
The Sonata HD has an integrate Hi-Res DAC.
In addition, after about 70 connect/disconnect attempts, my s20 detects the DAC, works for 1-2 min and then stop working. After that, the phone has not detected the DAC anymore.
The strange thing is that if I connect the DAC via an OTG adapter, all works good without any issues.
I tried "USB Host Diagnostics" App, but no device is detected.
Furthermore I enabled USB debug to view the logcat via ADB. When I connect the device on USB-C port I can see a "BATTERY CHANGED" event on the USBProvider module, but android not detects any device connected on USB-C port.
If I connect the same DAC on a s10 (with same android and EMUI version of my S20) or on a s8, device is detected and works, so I think that isn't a defective device. It seems that Android not activate USB OTG mode when device is connected on the USB-C port.
@serafko has my same phone and the same device (with the same firmware version) and he has no problems. This makes me think that more than a compatibility problem with the S20 is some Android setting that causes the problem.
danielerispoli said:
I tried to change default usb configuration in developer mode but not solved. Tried all options.
The Sonata HD has an integrate Hi-Res DAC.
In addition, after about 70 connect/disconnect attempts, my s20 detects the DAC, works for 1-2 min and then stop working. After that, the phone has not detected the DAC anymore.
The strange thing is that if I connect the DAC via an OTG adapter, all works good without any issues.
I tried "USB Host Diagnostics" App, but no device is detected.
Furthermore I enabled USB debug to view the logcat via ADB. When I connect the device on USB-C port I can see a "BATTERY CHANGED" event on the USBProvider module, but android not detects any device connected on USB-C port.
If I connect the same DAC on a s10 (with same android and EMUI version of my S20) or on a s8, device is detected and works, so I think that isn't a defective device. It seems that Android not activate USB OTG mode when device is connected on the USB-C port.
@serafko has my same phone and the same device (with the same firmware version) and he has no problems. This makes me think that more than a compatibility problem with the S20 is some Android setting that causes the problem.
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Settings>sound and vibrations>advanced sound settings>sound quality and effects
Is the UHQ upscaler enabled when you connect the device?
Could power management be killing the apk(s) needed?
Power management (other than the power setting, Optimize is best) causes nothing but trouble.
Developer options>stand by apps, all app buckets should show as active, if not power management is active and probably running amuck, as usual.
blackhawk said:
Settings>sound and vibrations>advanced sound settings>sound quality and effects
Is the UHQ upscaler enabled when you connect the device?
Could power management be killing the apk(s) needed?
Power management (other than the power setting, Optimize is best) causes nothing but trouble.
Developer options>stand by apps, all app buckets should show as active, if not power management is active and probably running amuck, as usual.
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The UHQ upscaler is disabled (greyed out) with both the connected and unconnected device.
In the Stand by apps I have some apps greyed out with different states (RARE, FREQUENT ,EXEMPTED, etc).
Do you think this could be the problem?
In this case how can I solve?
I have currently enabled "Optimize" in power management.
Thank you so much for your help!
EDIT: I just disabled the "Risparmio energia applicazione" (I think Energy saving app in english) and now all the apps in the Developer options -> stand by apps are in the "ACTIVE" state....same issue! Device not detected and UHQ upscaler greyed out.
EDIT2: Also tried to enable the developer option "Disable automatic audio routing": same issue!
I think this is doable but you're going to have to play with it. Contact the manufacturer if all else fails.
I found this:
https://www.hidizs.net/blogs/news/h...with-hi-res-sound-with-sonata-hd-dac-cable-ii
blackhawk said:
I think this is doable but you're going to have to play with it. Contact the manufacturer if all else fails.
I found this:
https://www.hidizs.net/blogs/news/h...with-hi-res-sound-with-sonata-hd-dac-cable-ii
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I contacted technical support but they replied after 4 days with a classic standard email.
Also I tried to flash all 3 firmware (now the device is with "D - Pure Music" firmware, the same as the other user.
Finally I did all the tests both with the app they recommend (HybyMusic) and with USB Audio Player PRO, setting the BitPerfect option and exclusive access to the USB port. This way the app bypasses the android usb stack and uses an optimized driver.
I also tried to clear the data and cache of the system application "Usb settings", but despite all these attempts I could not solve it in any way.
At this point, considering that the manufacturer's assistance is practically non-existent, I believe that I will return the product directly through Amazon.
I am very sorry because the DAC quality of this device is amazing and I do not know if I should order another one as I honestly have not yet understood if it is a defective product or compatibility problem.
Anyway thanks again for the help!
As soon as I plug in the Samsung dongle it recognize it and the UHQ upscaler options are available.
Poweramp shows the Samsung 3.5mm adapter with 24bit 48khz sampling rate being outputted.
For whatever reason the phone isn't recognizing the device.
I don't know what the communication protocol is for the linkup. Sorry.
blackhawk said:
As soon as I plug in the Samsung dongle it recognize it and the UHQ upscaler options are available.
Poweramp shows the Samsung 3.5mm adapter with 24bit 48khz sampling rate being outputted.
For whatever reason the phone isn't recognizing the device.
I don't know what the communication protocol is for the linkup. Sorry.
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I have the Samsung dongle too and works like a charm with all apps (Spotify, PowerAmp, etc).
I'm considering to buy an bluetooth DAC like the Fiio BTR5. It works both as Bluetooth or USB-C DAC, so I would be sure not to have compatibility problems.
Thanks again for the help!
danielerispoli said:
I tried to change default usb configuration in developer mode but not solved. Tried all options.
The Sonata HD has an integrate Hi-Res DAC.
In addition, after about 70 connect/disconnect attempts, my s20 detects the DAC, works for 1-2 min and then stop working. After that, the phone has not detected the DAC anymore.
The strange thing is that if I connect the DAC via an OTG adapter, all works good without any issues.
I tried "USB Host Diagnostics" App, but no device is detected.
Furthermore I enabled USB debug to view the logcat via ADB. When I connect the device on USB-C port I can see a "BATTERY CHANGED" event on the USBProvider module, but android not detects any device connected on USB-C port.
If I connect the same DAC on a s10 (with same android and EMUI version of my S20) or on a s8, device is detected and works, so I think that isn't a defective device. It seems that Android not activate USB OTG mode when device is connected on the USB-C port.
@serafko has my same phone and the same device (with the same firmware version) and he has no problems. This makes me think that more than a compatibility problem with the S20 is some Android setting that causes the problem.
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danielerispoli said:
I have the Samsung dongle too and works like a charm with all apps (Spotify, PowerAmp, etc).
I'm considering to buy an bluetooth DAC like the Fiio BTR5. It works both as Bluetooth or USB-C DAC, so I would be sure not to have compatibility problems.
Thanks again for the help!
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You mean you want to transmit the audio in the bt realm with the BTR5?
Even using the LDAC or AptX-HD codec the resolution and quality will be inferior to the Samsung dongle DAC to 3.5mm audio output.
BT lacks the bandwidth to support 24 bit 96khz resolution.
If the device you're coupling by bt doesn't support AptX-HD it won't do anything the phone bt chipset can't do*.
I believe that phone support the Sony LDAC bt codec, unfortunately only Sony headphones use it.
If you want to use bt headphones with the best easily available HQ audio I go with Sony.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/ldac-ultimate-bluetooth-guide-20026/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/the-best-bluetooth-ldac-headphones-of-2020-29515/amp/
This is a more reasonably priced LDAC headphone set than the top shelf Sony WH-1000XM4. For almost $200 less it doesn't sound as good but pretty close. Compare all the features first if you decide to go this way.
https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...72731859,prmr:1,pid:14828217612972731859,cs:1
Lol I have a 10 yo pair of Koss Porta Pros, the still work and sound damn good using the Samsung dongle. Not bad for the $29 I paid for them back then. There still around and a classic for good reasons.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/koss-porta-pro-limited-edition-review-11119/amp/
I am sorry, that i missinform you. My Sonata firmware is not "audio priority", but is "pure audio (D)". When i plugin DAC into USB port, Poweramp start automaticaly.
blackhawk said:
You mean you want to transmit the audio in the bt realm with the BTR5?
Even using the LDAC or AptX-HD codec the resolution and quality will be inferior to the Samsung dongle DAC to 3.5mm audio output.
BT lacks the bandwidth to support 24 bit 96khz resolution.
If the device you're coupling by bt doesn't support AptX-HD it won't do anything the phone bt chipset can't do*.
I believe that phone support the Sony LDAC bt codec, unfortunately only Sony headphones use it.
If you want to use bt headphones with the best easily available HQ audio I go with Sony.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/ldac-ultimate-bluetooth-guide-20026/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/the-best-bluetooth-ldac-headphones-of-2020-29515/amp/
This is a more reasonably priced LDAC headphone set than the top shelf Sony WH-1000XM4. For almost $200 less it doesn't sound as good but pretty close. Compare all the features first if you decide to go this way.
https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...72731859,prmr:1,pid:14828217612972731859,cs:1
Lol I have a 10 yo pair of Koss Porta Pros, the still work and sound damn good using the Samsung dongle. Not bad for the $29 I paid for them back then. There still around and a classic for good reasons.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.soundguys.com/koss-porta-pro-limited-edition-review-11119/amp/
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The Fiio BTR5 supports all Bt codecs, LDAC included. In Bt mode supports up to 96Khz 24bit but in USB mode supports up to 384khz with DSD256 native. The dongle has 2x ES9218P DAC by Sabre.
The Samsung dongle.
The samsung dongle actually has very high quality, in fact I was surprised, but it has a hard time driving my 150Ohm Shure headphones. No problem with my Bose QC20 instead.
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I am sorry, that i missinform you. My Sonata firmware is not "audio priority", but is "pure audio (D)". When i plugin DAC into USB port, Poweramp start automaticaly.
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Sorry, my mistake. The firmware I loaded is "SONATA _HD-D_Pure".
Hi Guys.
Just tried the Sonata 2 on S10+ and I'll let a fried try on S20 soon.
This product looks like useless and malfunctioning.
Talking about S10, it integrates a great DAC, it's just heavily limited by software, I don't want to know why...
I rooted it and, modding the mixer_gains.xml, installing Viper4Android and using dynamic driver based headphones it's absolutely unbelievable.
Anyway, Google just improved SafetyNet, they'll soon close the door to any root solution, Magisk included, in a short time we'll have the most of apps refusing to run on rooted phones.
That's why I'm searching for a decent type-c DAC cable.
Coming to the Sonata 2, its volume is just acceptable, but bass frequencies are too weak.
Moreover, its connector is unstable, there's frequent disconnections
Also the game of the 3 firmwares is absurd.
I flashed the sound priority firmware, honestly this firmware increases sound quality a little bit, but it shockingly fails to manage the microphone: on outgoing and incoming calls microphone doesn't work at all.
Finally, reverting to call priority firmware, the microphone still doesn't work.
In my opinion this product looks like the usual chinese bull****, do you confirm?
I'm actually looking to something better, but it prefer it in the "cable" form, using it for work and sport a big device wouldn't be so comfortable...
Regards
Ok the provided cable is not bidirectional the one with the logo should go into the phone.