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New info regarding the replacement for the interim "Sense 3.6" we have in the latest leaks. Sounds like a serious improvement over the past UIs.
That sounds awesome...though I really hope they keep the menu button with the capacitive buttons, I would really miss that...
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http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/htc-sense-4-0-hands-on-report-reveals-new-features-for-htcs-custom-ui/\
New info regarding the replacement for the interim "Sense 3.6" we have in the latest leaks. Sounds like a serious improvement over the past UIs.
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thanks for the site..
this is the best feature for me on sense 4.0
*Beats Audio profile updated to work with third party applications*
I really kinda just wish sense would die. =\
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I really kinda just wish sense would die. =\
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Or at least slim down... the added functionality is nice. It is the bloat and battery killing parts I want gone.
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Or at least slim down... the added functionality is nice. It is the bloat and battery killing parts I want gone.
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Exactly.
Sense is far too intensive on the CPU.
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I really kinda just wish sense would die. =\
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Why would you be on this phone then...? There's nothing but cavalcades of Sense here for us, because it's an HTC phone...
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Why would you be on this phone then...? There's nothing but cavalcades of Sense here for us, because it's an HTC phone...
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I pick my phones based on hardware. I'm not a fan of Sense, Widgets, and the like. That's why I'm here. I have an Android phone I can customize the way I like. That's why most people are here. Try to embrace that rather than judging people based on your feelings/convictions. That's what people that enjoy products from a certain "fruit themed company" do.
i think people need to stop complaining and/or stfu about sense already, it's getting old. we get it, you don't like sense. hooray for you. it seems the new "hip" thing to do is hate on sense, seriously. it's so god damn annoying to read. sense isn't going anywhere, so get over it. motoblur isn't going anywhere, and neither is any other manufactorers OS. stock android is ugly as sin, and ICS looks like a toy. atleast sense is going to bring visual appeal to ICS, whereas comparing ICS to iOS makes the nexus look like a toy.
tl;dr: shut up about sense, it's not going anywhere, and it's annoying to constantly read peoples hatred towards it. get over it.
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I pick my phones based on hardware. I'm not a fan of Sense, Widgets, and the like. That's why I'm here. I have an Android phone I can customize the way I like. That's why most people are here. Try to embrace that rather than judging people based on your feelings/convictions. That's what people that enjoy products from a certain "fruit themed company" do.
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Lol damn dude. I was just wondering because all we have are sense roms. Don't get so hurt, I love AOSP too, I'm excited for it to finally come, but for now is it hard for you to even use this? Or do you use Senseless stuff or what? Just being friendly, don't get all hostile on me again.
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Lol damn dude. I was just wondering because all we have are sense roms. Don't get so hurt, I love AOSP too, I'm excited for it to finally come, but for now is it hard for you to even use this? Or do you use Senseless stuff or what? Just being friendly, don't get all hostile on me again.
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I don't do hostile posts. I test everything because I like to play with it all. Can't say I don't like something if I never laid eyes/hands on it. Since I do theme and support work, I switch between sense'd and non-sense'd quite often.
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Why would you be on this phone then...? There's nothing but cavalcades of Sense here for us, because it's an HTC phone...
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Agreed! As it may be intrusive, it's still the best! This phone has been running great for me!
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I am new to Xda and HTC phones myself and I do like sense. The short time I have been on this site, I have noticed and strangely I might add. People seem to get way to hostile over the Sense vs Asop debate. People have different tastes and what they like and its just as much their choice as anything so why be condescending or hostile over their choice.
The reason I bought the rezound myself was hardware or I would have gotten the Gnex , because I like to mod and play around with different roms. Sense was a bonus for me , because to me its just a theme I can flash or not
Mr Smith is nothing , but courteous and helpful in the 2 forums I have been on so no reason to drag his choice into the debate.
android is about choice. thats why it is different from all other brands/os.
the software can always be changed/rewritten, but you are stuck with the hardware.
like mrsmith i choose my phones based on hardware. i also happen to like sense so that i why i went with the rezound.
thats not so sat that i don like asop. i ran CM7 on my TB for that past 3 months, sense simply has more "polish" and "eye camdy" that i enjoy
personally i hope sense slims down a bit and some of the bloat and useless apps disappear, but finally they realize that beats audio should work for third party apps.
once my rezound is outdated, i will most likely end up with another HTC phone and it will be a 1.5 ghz quad core, 1 GB ram, 8/3 mp camera 10 mm thick sense 4.0 android 4.0 powered monster
What I found that I like in that article is the guest mode.
"You want to see my phone, sure hold on a second."
No more Facebook posts telling my family I am coming out or anything to that nature.
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What I found that I like in that article is the guest mode.
"You want to see my phone, sure hold on a second."
No more Facebook posts telling my family I am coming out or anything to that nature.
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so your friends do that too huh...
I think all of us have friends like that.
Did you guys see 50gb of free fully integrated dropbox space!! I thought the 3gb we got was awesome. Did HTC. by dropbox or something?
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Why would you be on this phone then...? There's nothing but cavalcades of Sense here for us, because it's an HTC phone...
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I'm on this phone because it is the best phone on the market right now. It doesn't matter to me one bit what comes on the phone (Sense, blur, touchwiz, etc) except that sometimes (as it was with the Rezound initially) its impossibly hard to get rid of.
Now that I have removed like 95% of Sense/HTC related software from the system, installed my launcher of preference, I am extremely happy with my phone and battery life. I'm so glad I didn't get anything else on the market right now.
So there you have it... I picked out this phone because of the phone, not because of the manufacturer or whatever crap bloatware that particular manufacturer decided to burden us with. And just cause other people are sick of reading about how crappy Sense is does not mean I'm going to like it anymore or withhold my thoughts on the subject for their benefit. Negative reviews of a product are just as important as positive reviews.
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Did you guys see 50gb of free fully integrated dropbox space!! I thought the 3gb we got was awesome. Did HTC. by dropbox or something?
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While if I'm wrong it'd be awesome, but I think that's a typo, it'll probably be 5GB, to compete with apple's 5GB of free iCloud.
Can we get a list of the "TRUE AOSP" phones? I bought the Rezound after being an iPhone user for years with the idea of flashing ROM'S etc. I found that I HATE Sense and want a TRUE ICS experience.
Well, as y'all know Rezound developers are dropping like flies around her (Protekk, etc...) and the only person doing any consistent work on a Senseless Rom is Scott. So before I make the mistake again of getting a phone that's not gonna give me all the freedom I desire can we get a list of the recent "TRUE AOSP phones?
Nexus's are the only true aosp
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Can we get a list of the "TRUE AOSP" phones? I bought the Rezound after being an iPhone user for years with the idea of flashing ROM'S etc. I found that I HATE Sense and want a TRUE ICS experience.
Well, as y'all know Rezound developers are dropping like flies around her (Protekk, etc...) and the only person doing any consistent work on a Senseless Rom is Scott. So before I make the mistake again of getting a phone that's not gonna give me all the freedom I desire can we get a list of the recent "TRUE AOSP phones?
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True aosp? The nexus series. There you go. There are other phones with aosp support but not officially like the nexii
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LOL, yea it's a real short list.......
If you want pure AOSP, you can get... the droid Eris!
Developers aren't dropping like flies, just because Protek left. Development is thriving here, but you got to like Sense. The reason I bought an HTC was because of reliability and the fact that it has Sense. I do like AOSP too (I miss MIUI), but I also like Sense.
You could always just throw Nova or Apex Launcher on your devices, or run de-sensed rom. Side note: if you get a Samsung like the Nexus, make sure you get a GSM version. CMDA radios are one of Samsung's biggest weaknesses.
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If you want pure AOSP, you can get... the droid Eris!
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lolz. droid eris ftw
holy ****.
for the 1000000th time:
SCOTTS SENSELESS ROM ISNT SENSELESS!!!
that rom is themed to look it dude, it still has sense ALL OVER IT. it's NOT senseless!
its a sense rom with a launcher thrown on it that you can download yourself in the market.
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This whole thing is souring me entirely on Android.
Maybe that sounds hyperbolic, but I'm sick of having to jump through these absurd hoops to get the hardware I want with the software I want.
I love the dev community and the hard work they do, but until Android OEMs offer a way, out of the box, to run AOSP then I'm going to be rethinking my commitment to Android.
It's absurd that the double-bind we're in is to choose hardware or software.
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This whole thing is souring me entirely on Android.
Maybe that sounds hyperbolic, but I'm sick of having to jump through these absurd hoops to get the hardware I want with the software I want.
I love the dev community and the hard work they do, but until Android OEMs offer a way, out of the box, to run AOSP then I'm going to be rethinking my commitment to Android.
It's absurd that the double-bind we're in is to choose hardware or software.
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I don't understand why the manufacturers ALL spend the time and resources to make such elaborate custom skins. I mean a custom launcher is one thing but rewriting the entire email, calander, mms, and settings apps is kind of overboard. Stock Ice cream sandwich really does not need any enhancements for the most part. The one good thing about the first set of honeycomb tablets is that they all for the most part ran aosp.
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I don't understand why the manufacturers ALL spend the time and resources to make such elaborate custom skins. I mean a custom launcher is one thing but rewriting the entire email, calander, mms, and settings apps is kind of overboard. Stock Ice cream sandwich really does not need any enhancements for the most part. The one good thing about the first set of honeycomb tablets is that they all for the most part ran aosp.
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probably because stock Android is ugly as sin, it's widgets are ugly, and it's bland and boring. a lot of people feel this way, and we embrace sense because it actually looks GOOD.
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Droid 1 is also AOSP, it even has froyo!
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tekhna said:
This whole thing is souring me entirely on Android.
Maybe that sounds hyperbolic, but I'm sick of having to jump through these absurd hoops to get the hardware I want with the software I want.
I love the dev community and the hard work they do, but until Android OEMs offer a way, out of the box, to run AOSP then I'm going to be rethinking my commitment to Android.
It's absurd that the double-bind we're in is to choose hardware or software.
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Yes, because you have so many hardware and software options for iOS and equally as many software options on Windows Phone.
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probably because stock Android is ugly as sin, it's widgets are ugly, and it's bland and boring. a lot of people feel this way, and we embrace sense because it actually looks GOOD.
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That's your opinion, I find sense too bubbly and big for me, and love the look of stock aosp. It would be nice if manufacturers made their phones work on aosp source as a start, then added their skins on top, but that's a lot to ask, so I don't complain
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Fwiw I think AOSP is ugly too
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Yes, because you have so many hardware and software options for iOS and equally as many software options on Windows Phone.
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Yes, let's take what I said and willfully distort it.
heleos said:
That's your opinion, I find sense too bubbly and big for me, and love the look of stock aosp. It would be nice if manufacturers made their phones work on aosp source as a start, then added their skins on top, but that's a lot to ask, so I don't complain
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agreed man, it's all opinions, which is why HTC makes sense lol
if there was a box i could check to switch to stock android or sense, i'll admit i'd give it a whirl. yeah, i'd get sick of it after 2 days (i coudln't run CM7 for longer than 24 hours on my Inc because i couldn't stand AOSP), but i'd still try it out.
Any phone that Cyanogen will support can get "full AOSP"
everyone needs to remember not everyone likes the same things... I prefer sense over asop and that's why i have this phone... I think asop is plain as well and i commend HTC for making Sense as nice it is... no other manufacturer comes close with their own UI
I think AOSP functions better than Sense, that's purely why I like it.
Hi, I think is good that we have LG's UI.
Because I have a Galaxy Nexus with a CM10 and there is nothing else. All the ROMs look exactly the same. With LG we will get mix of LG and CM or Aosp and that will look better.
What you guys think?
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I agree. I'm not to fond of all the Roms and how they are all the same. They all look the same and to me that's boring. I really like the ui.
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Eventually, maybe even sense.
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I would tend to agree with you. Having different UIs are a nice change of pace while other roms that mimic AOSP are visually boring after a while. However, I think the UI is taking up too much resources that causes the significant battery drain that many reviewers seem to complain about. Personally, once CM10 comes to the Optimus G, I will be using that instead.
With external SD u can have mutiple roms with different flavours
Biggest advantage that I feel which is pushing me for upgrade to this one , obiviously apart from monstorous horsepower underneath is the external SD card. I kinda liked having two roms simultaneously installed in my galaxy S2, always kept one TW based and other CM based.
With One X ,Lost this flexiblity. I hope we get good Devs derived to buy this powerhouse and can provide alot on rom options , both with LG UI and CM/AOKP. This is one of the reason I'm looking for this one.
Cheers to all who are already enjoying this !
noob question here, almost too embarrassed to ask, but how do you add/remove screens? Haven't figured it out yet :\
Yeah.. that's definitely not gonna happen.
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Eventually, maybe even sense.
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It just all depends on what u want. For me I'm a aosp user and hate every other overlay so for me it doesn't bother me if ROMs look the same. If it bothers someone then learn to theme or buy a device that u like the manufacturers skin on but no skin will ever perform as well as aosp.
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Yeah.. that's definitely not gonna happen.
It just all depends on what u want. For me I'm a aosp user and hate every other overlay so for me it doesn't bother me if ROMs look the same. If it bothers someone then learn to theme or buy a device that u like the manufacturers skin on but no skin will ever perform as well as aosp.
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That's not always true. While aosp uses less resources, since it is geared to work on everything, it may not be as optimized as stock is. Apparently, the nexus 4 performs worse than the optimus g, which could mean that lg did a good job of optimizing it for the device in a way that aosp did not.
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thats not always true. While aosp uses less resources, since it is geared to work on everything, it may not be as optimized as stock is. Apparently, the nexus 4 performs worse than the optimus g, which could mean that lg did a good job of optimizing it for the device in a way that aosp did not.
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Good argument but these manufacturers just take aosp and add **** on top. So your still getting the same aosp as a google phone with **** added on that always makes it slower and there's no way in hell an optimus outperforms the new nexus. Whoever said that (I don't care if it was a 100) is crazy.
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That's not always true. While aosp uses less resources, since it is geared to work on everything, it may not be as optimized as stock is. Apparently, the nexus 4 performs worse than the optimus g, which could mean that lg did a good job of optimizing it for the device in a way that aosp did not.
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I believe it only outperformed it because the benchmarks weren't optimized for 4.2 yet. Who knows what kinda of framework changes Google has done. Also keep in mind that all the Nexus 4 right now have pre-release software. All of them are bound to have bugs.
Coming from the galaxy nexus this phone is really nice. Super fast, nice screen, and overall a great feel. The factory interface isn't too bad, but I do still prefer vanilla android. I'm on T-Mobile and there is a lot of bloatware on here. Does anyone foresee this phone getting much attention from devs?
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Coming from the galaxy nexus this phone is really nice. Super fast, nice screen, and overall a great feel. The factory interface isn't too bad, but I do still prefer vanilla android. I'm on T-Mobile and there is a lot of bloatware on here. Does anyone foresee this phone getting much attention from devs?
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Check out the dev sections, already tons of ROM's out for it including several AOSP ROM's. It's a great phone, welcome to the G2 world!
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Coming from the galaxy nexus this phone is really nice. Super fast, nice screen, and overall a great feel. The factory interface isn't too bad, but I do still prefer vanilla android. I'm on T-Mobile and there is a lot of bloatware on here. Does anyone foresee this phone getting much attention from devs?
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Just curious, what exactly makes you prefer vanilla Android over LG's UI on the G2?
I'll be joining the G2 community soon. Can tell you now... My plan is to root, stay on stock system and heavily debloat and tweak the system myself. Personally I'm tired of flashing roms and dealing with fixes, workaround and bugs. That's why I'm now on stock on my S2....And plan to keep it that way. After the tweaking and debloating it's smoother, better battery life and bugless.. Unlike just about any custom rom I've ever ran. I totally get the fun of flashing stuff and all that tho..... I'm just personally done with it. I just want a super stable device.
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Just curious, what exactly makes you prefer vanilla Android over LG's UI on the G2?
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I don't use any of the bloatware from tmobile. I prefer the simple clean look of aosp.
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I don't use any of the bloatware from tmobile. I prefer the simple clean look of aosp.
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I believe he is asking why you like AOSP over LG's skin, not bloatware related since that can be removed either way.
I said I prefer the simple clean look of aosp....
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Root it. Freeze and or remove bloatware. You can also remove the bottom software keys.
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I don't want or need the bells and whistles LG baked into their launcher/home app. 7 gigs for a phone OS is pure crap. Just my opinion.
How big is the N5 ROM?
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give it a try, you might find yourself sold on the stock ui, its much smoother then any custom rom I have seen, even with all the bloat. This is coming from an recovered flasher.
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I just installed CleanROM XE 2.0 - more details in the AT&T dev thread. I've the AT&T LG G2, but it looks like it's set up to work on the T-Mobile variant too. Two days in and I think it's a keeper - performs really well and battery life seems just a bit better than stock. The way that the dev set up the install allows you to cherry pick the features that you want to keep from stock, as well as some of the stock software. It's a pretty slick install and I'm happy with this stock mod. Check out the details - the big draw for me is no Carrier IQ - and see if you like it.
A few weeks ago, my Nexus 5 got the OTA Lollipop 5.0 update. After rooting it using the WugFresh root tool kit, I had some time to mess around in it and it's not that big of an improvement over 4.4.x, IMHO. I am actually enjoying my 4.4.2 ZV6 with the xposed framework way more than the AOSP version of Lollipop. I think the much anticipated Lollipop has had way too much hype and the improvements generally serve Google and Service providers more than the end user. I'm content to wait till our developers get their hands on our official G3 release. Until then, it's all good.
After seeing this review:
http://youtu.be/-S_jlTfbwFk
and playing with rom deodexed zv6 4.4.2 I am not impressed with 5.0 either. I really like this zv6 update and all its features, plus I keep my root and bump. My xposed modules still work. I'm a happy camper. :thumbup:
ROM I flashed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56953010
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Once there's a complete, 100% working, stable Lollipop ROM for the LS990 I may try it, but at the moment I'm not really inclined to give up all the customization I've made to make MY G3 My OWN. A lot of things I've done just aren't going to work on 5.0 right now. Maybe never. Certainly not without root. 5.0 is just way more locked down than previous versions, greatly limiting the things apps can do.
And the OP is right, I think. A lot of the changes benefit the manufacturers, carriers, and corporate interests more than they do users like us.
Materialz. Nuff said.
The look isn't nearly enough to make up for the loss of functionality.
Even if I liked the look, which I don't. Dear God, some of the colors Google has put in there are just puke-inducing ugly.
I don't see nothing special about 5.0. Am guessing most of it is under the hood. I like the animations but the colors don't do it for me.
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The look isn't nearly enough to make up for the loss of functionality.
Even if I liked the look, which I don't. Dear God, some of the colors Google has put in there are just puke-inducing ugly.
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I don't see nothing special about 5.0. Am guessing most of it is under the hood. I like the animations but the colors don't do it for me.
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I agree. It looks like they really mailed it in. We can complain about the manufacturer overlays like LG Touchwiz, Sense etc., but without some touch up, it's unappealing. Unfortunately there's the bloatware from the carrier. Xposed and the customization modules, or custom. roms from our developers really give it some pop.
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I don't see nothing special about 5.0. Am guessing most of it is under the hood. I like the animations but the colors don't do it for me.
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I felt same after running it or preview in nexus 4 earlier this year. Or ending last year. Can't remember. But its the same ugly color. I don't like the white background. I actually think they are going back to cupcake. Lmao. But I too love the speed and animations. Material is awesome idea. But we have lg ..they did ok but I'm still either way going to need major theming. Lol
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