Root and customs - Moto Z Questions & Answers

I've recently bought this phone which I'm quite pleased with however I've noticed there's absolutely no Roms or tweaks for this phone. I'm really shocked as every previous moto phone had so much development it's unreal.
Why is that?
The first thing I thought I would do is root and try all the tweaks customise etc. But boy it's dry out there.
What's happened?
Is there any other forum which anyone can recommend?

riz157 said:
I've recently bought this phone which I'm quite pleased with however I've noticed there's absolutely no Roms or tweaks for this phone. I'm really shocked as every previous moto phone had so much development it's unreal.
Why is that?
The first thing I thought I would do is root and try all the tweaks customise etc. But boy it's dry out there.
What's happened?
Is there any other forum which anyone can recommend?
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There is one ROM so far based on stock, but no not a lot of open development for this device. I imagine its just lack of users really. It doesn't seem that this phone has the same adoption rate as say the Moto X, which had a ton of users because of its low price.
That being said, there IS a custom Kernel that sets the clock speed of the unlocked Moto Z, to be the same as the VZW moto z (significantly higher) which is a nice feature.

That's a real shame, moto priced themselves out. This phone missing couple of essential features like waterproof and wireless charging which would have made all the difference.
Real nice looking phone nevertheless, wish screen was slightly bigger 5.9" min.

Why would you even root this phone ? Battery life 12hours sot vibrant display is awesome and performance is like snapdragon 821 what would you need more? If you unlock the bootloader and root android pay and some apps don't work it's not worth the hassle and it will only get worse if somebody tries to tweak or mod it.
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digweed4me said:
Why would you even root this phone ? Battery life 12hours sot vibrant display is awesome and performance is like snapdragon 821 what would you need more? If you unlock the bootloader and root android pay and some apps don't work it's not worth the hassle and it will only get worse if somebody tries to tweak or mod it.
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12 hours of SoT ?? ... You must be using a Moto Z Play.
I think this thread was for Moto Z (XT1650)

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LG G2 scene compared to Samsung

Hey there!
So I recently lost my Galaxy S4 (no questions asked, please) which I was very happy with. I played a lot around with different roms, kernels and stuff.
Now I'm thinking about getting the LG G2 because it seems like the cool new thing on the market. I notice, though, that there aren't really that big scene around for it - I really base that in the forum activity here on XDA. So I would like to know what people's experience is with this thing, especially if you've played around with the SGS4 as well.
A bit off topic in here - I would like to know how it is to root and mod, is it easily bricked? That's one thing I really liked on the Samsung phones in general.
Do you think there will be a bigger scene once it gets out to more people? And roms as well? I know it's hard to live up to the Samsung hype but still...
L8r!
Don't know what to tell you. This phone rocks. The battery the screen the form factor. Couple it with the latest cpu and Graphic ram (what ever that is). This phone packs the best spec right now. The camera is no slouch either with OIS it is up there with the best.
As for developments, this device is so ready. Right now there is root and twrp and CWM. Read it somewhere about kernel source is released (need to fact check on that). This device is more than ready for development.
But still people are waiting one the fence until the released of nexus 5 to make their choices.
But for me I have already made my mine with 3000mah vs 2300mah battery there is nothing nexus 5 can do to beat this.
-LG G2
kcharng said:
Don't know what to tell you. This phone rocks. The battery the screen the form factor. Couple it with the latest cpu and Graphic ram (what ever that is). This phone packs the best spec right now. The camera is no slouch either with OIS it is up there with the best.
As for developments, this device is so ready. Right now there is root and twrp and CWM. Read it somewhere about kernel source is released (need to fact check on that). This device is more than ready for development.
But still people are waiting one the fence until the released of nexus 5 to make their choices.
But for me I have already made my mine with 3000mah vs 2300mah battery there is nothing nexus 5 can do to beat this.
-LG G2
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This. Plus devs have already made announcements this past week that they're working on this phone. You'll be fine
I've had the S4 (twice), and it doesn't even compare to this phone. The S4 was an un-optimized piece of trash imo. This phone is the opposite where everything is quick and the features actually make sense.
The screen is better, performance is better and battery life is much better. Just grab this phone, you won't be disappointed.
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Awesome phone, just got it, camera and vid are awesome, cam software could be improved a bit but really it's the best phone I've used, def like it better than s4.. and the nex5 battery is a deal breaker, coupled with an 8mp camera I read it's supposed to have... definitely G2.
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I've had the s4 , I own the g2 and just recently picked up the note 3 ,Def can't go wrong with the g2 it's the best battery life hands down even compared with the N3
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I have gs4 and htc one both good phone's till the g2 came in to my life. I thanks my wife every day for the gift. Best phone I have ever try. Battery is just amazing. Speed ufff. Looooks sick, the screen is beautiful, camera amazing. You ask me and it's a 10 stars phone.
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Well, just hit it and bought it on the web. Coming one of the first days next week, really looking forward to it
But keep coming with input, pros and cons...
KEriksen said:
Well, just hit it and bought it on the web. Coming one of the first days next week, really looking forward to it
But keep coming with input, pros and cons...
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You're going to love it! Now that I think about it, I haven't had a phone where just about everyone who I've asked is in love with it and raves about it this much (check the other forums S4, HTC One, Note 3, 5s etc)
The G2 is that good. I had the HTC One for a week & took it back to get the G2 once I saw it at the store & don't miss the One @ all. I even waited 2 extra weeks to get the white version.
I'm very particular about the phones I get & how I use them. Trust me, this one will also get put through its paces. In the short time I've had it, I can tell you, its no slouch, the battery is insane, it just won't die no matter what I try to do & this is on the stock ROM!!!!
All I've done it turn off Carrier IQ which you can do without Root! Whoa. You'll see in a few days when you get it.
P.S
There's a Dev on the forums who mentioned they're making ROMs for our phone. In a few weeks this place is going to be buzzing & you'll be amazed @ what your new phone can do
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LG g2 has been confirmed cheating on benchmarks as well.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks
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ha good one... the screen CAN'T compare! I have had the HTC One, S4 and S4 active and this screen is SO much better. Plus everything else it better too. So go play with one and you will see what we mean
I don't normally jump into these types of threads but I have to voice my opinion. I've always been a Samsung fan and love their phones. I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus and have had plenty of hands on experience with the S3. This phone easily trumps both, hands down. The speed of this phone is amazing, the screen is beautiful and not over saturated like the AMOLED displays, the features are endless (I've had the phone since Thursday and I'm still finding little things out) and development is sure to pick up soon. The rear button placement does take a day or so to get used to but with the Knock On feature I hardly ever press the power button. Go through the 30 Day Challenge videos on PhoneDog about the phone. Their biggest gripe is they claim the phone is TOO FAST!
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MohJee said:
LG g2 has been confirmed cheating on benchmarks as well.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks
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niceto see the note cheats on all but one, LG only on 2.
Anyway whos to say these are cheats, if you run your mobile optimally by changing characteristics, it can hardly be called a cheat, its more optimalization.
also as its been debunked a thousand times over, benchmarks say nothing, its all about your percieved performance.
What is wrong with maxing out to phone setting before benchmark? It is not like they faked the score or anything. I remember my PC days when we used to freeze the cpu and overclock the **** out of it. That may be the extreme example but it is what your hardware is capable off.
-LG G2
Lets just say I'm surprised how good this phone is. The best smart phone I've every owned. My last phone was a GNex with stock 4.3.
Coming from the s4, the screen ALONE makes the G2 a winner to me. The outdoor performance of the g2 KILLS amoled.
Battery life is amazing. I average about 15 hours a charge. Heck, today I'm going on 13 hours since I unplugged it and got 47% battery left. (Location service turned off. I use an app called "smart shortcuts to give me a shortcut to location services for when I need Maps)
Performance wise, this is as smooth as 4.3 gpe ROM I was running on my s4. And that's STOCK.
those factors alone actually made rethink about rooting. But I needed to root to hide those dang on soft keys
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While looking at cases I'm wondering what the difference is between the international version and the carrier versions like Sprint/T-Mobile...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cruzerlite-...F8&qid=1381163951&sr=8-93&keywords=lg+g2+case
It says Sprint only but I can't really see how it should be that different?
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While looking at cases I'm wondering what the difference is between the international version and the carrier versions like Sprint/T-Mobile...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cruzerlite-...F8&qid=1381163951&sr=8-93&keywords=lg+g2+case
It says Sprint only but I can't really see how it should be that different?
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It doesn't have the cutout for the mic above the flash like on the AT&T version. Other than that, I don't see a difference.
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LG G2
I too must confess, (like anyone really cares), I have been a fan of the Galaxy line since they started making them, and I was impressed with both the S4 and N3; was even contemplating picking that up, since my wife and I were due for an upgrade in a few days, she is bent on going for the N3 so that was out of the question, (can't have us both walking around with the same phone), but then I came across the LG G2 on one of those comparison videos and immediately fell in love. After that I went searching for information all over, which brought me back here, because I knew that if this phone was really as hot as I thought it was then it was sure to be buzzing on this forum. And I'm glad to see you guys don't disappoint. You've helped me make my choice that much easier. And can't wait to get my hands on this phone in a few days.
I do have a few questions though:
Is the LG OS on top of the Android OS easy to deal with or is it cumbersome and superfluous?
Would I truly miss not having an micro SD card slot, or is the phone so much ****s and giggles that I won't even notice?
What was the longest time someone has gone without charging their battery, with a full assortment of apps running?

Is the v10 still worth getting?

Hello all, I'm currently on the s7 edge and I've had it with this locked bootloader. This phone feels like an iPhone to me. You can't do anything with it but use it. The edge of the screen is troublesome when using the phone without a case.
Basically I want to know if the v10 is still worth getting? Or should I wait for something else? I'm on T-mobile.
I love huge screens(which is another issue I have with this phone)
Don't care for camera
Don't care about gaming speed. That's what my DS and other handhelds are for.
Don't care about battery life if it's replaceable.
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Hello all, I'm currently on the s7 edge and I've had it with this locked bootloader. This phone feels like an iPhone to me. You can't do anything with it but use it. The edge of the screen is troublesome when using the phone without a case.
Basically I want to know if the v10 is still worth getting? Or should I wait for something else? I'm on T-mobile.
I love huge screens(which is another issue I have with this phone)
Don't care for camera
Don't care about gaming speed. That's what my DS and other handhelds are for.
Don't care about battery life if it's replaceable.
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It's a great phone and is now easily rootable on both Lollipop or Marshmallow (depending on which it ships with). Custom TWRP recovery exists and that's helpful when flashing updates. There's a very solid stock ROM with various debloat, dedeox, etc variations to try from. Also a couple non stock ROMs like CM13 and Resurrection Remix that are WIP that are pretty close (working camera being the big gating item).
On the con side it's not the latest and greatest and the G5 of HTC 10 has better performance (at least in tests like Antutu). Also i wish there were more devs actively working on this phone....seems like its really only a couple folks and if they get bored and move on...
Anyway, that's my two cents. Hope it helps. Come join the fun.
A great device, had mine for less than two months now and for the current price it is hard to beat
This beat out the nexus 6p for me due to the removable battery and expandable storage
The second screen is a bit gimicky still, I can't find a reason to use it much other than for always on notifications
The two front facing cameras... well the could have stuck with just the wide angle and I would be happy. But rear shooter is still hard to beat by anything
Build quality is solid, screen is great, battery ain't so good but the fastest charger to date can't beat a battery swap
Other forums may have more development but this one is moving along nicely and with the smaller size feels closer (my big name phones always had way too many people to keep track)
I plan on holding on to it for two years, can't see a good reason not to.
Hope to see you around the forum!
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Yeah, what these guys said. I just got my V10 this month so only a couple weeks with it but I'm quite happy. Has all the features I require: swappable battery, SD card support, good camera with OIS, and fingerprint support. I love big screens and this certainly has it plus the second screen I find moderately useful though not a requirement. It's also built like a tank which is nice (but heavy). I don't see anything in the market that competes with the V10 if you have the same requirements as I do. I think the only thing that might get me jealous in 2016 is a V11. This one will likely last me several years, I think.

buy oneplus X ?

hi users of oneplus X, i want to buy oneplus X and i already read the specs and it's look great but I want your opinions about the phone (battery life, ROM, camera, multitasking in 3Gb of RAM , bug,otg,the amoled display it's look great or not,.........)
Sorry for bad english
Where do you want to buy it, because it's barely in stock anywhere...
Kéno40 said:
Where do you want to buy it, because it's barely in stock anywhere...
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i well buy it with second hands.
For me it's a really good bargain for its price.
Good hardware, & a lot of devs, -> incredible rom choice
Last OOS 3 are good too.
For battery life, depends on usage.
Yassane said:
hi users of oneplus X, i want to buy oneplus X and i already read the specs and it's look great but I want your opinions about the phone (battery life, ROM, camera, multitasking in 3Gb of RAM , bug,otg,the amoled display it's look great or not,.........)
Sorry for bad english
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Unless you're getting it at a really cheap price, I'd suggest you look at something newer. The SD801 is full 2 generations old. There's most probably going to be at least some noticeable performance difference even with the current gen mid-range offerings with SD650/652 (all other factors like skinned UI, bloat, etc. being equal).
Plus Nougat has already been released, but no SD800/801 device will be getting it; they can only go upto MM. So OOS 3 is officially the end of the line for this device.
Having said that, I'm plenty satisfied with the device personally.
So you'll have to weigh what would be better for you
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Unless you're getting it at a really cheap price, I'd suggest you look at something newer. The SD801 is full 2 generations old. There's most probably going to be at least some noticeable performance difference even with the current gen mid-range offerings with SD650/652 (all other factors like skinned UI, bloat, etc. being equal).
Plus Nougat has already been released, but no SD800/801 device will be getting it; they can only go upto MM. So OOS 3 is officially the end of the line for this device.
Having said that, I'm plenty satisfied with the device personally.
So you'll have to weigh what would be better for you
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i will buy him about 140$ but the are a lot of phone with this price: xperia z3 compact , xperia z2 , galaxy s4 , htc one m7
i don't now what should i buy, all of them have a cm14 or aosp 7 so i don't worry about rom
and if you talking about SD650/652 i don't have the money for it. and thanks for all
Yassane said:
i will buy him about 140$ but the are a lot of phone with this price: xperia z3 compact , xperia z2 , galaxy s4 , htc one m7
i don't now what should i buy, all of them have a cm14 or aosp 7 so i don't worry about rom
and if you talking about SD650/652 i don't have the money for it. and thanks for all
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The only area where the other phones you've listed surpass the OPX is the camera. And the screen size to a small extent, in case of the 5.2" Xperia Z2. Other than that, OPX should be good.
primemonitor said:
The only area where the other phones you've listed surpass the OPX is the camera. And the screen size to a small extent, in case of the 5.2" Xperia Z2. Other than that, OPX should be good.
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what about battery life i'm gamer specially the game with 60fps; in the test of gsmarena the battery life is really bad (54 hrs) before i have z3 compact (101 hrs) and he's nice so the battery life on OPX is bad is that true? and i don't like the biggest size like z2 1+1 and i hope the OPX is good in one hand
Yassane said:
what about battery life i'm gamer specially the game with 60fps; in the test of gsmarena the battery life is really bad (54 hrs) before i have z3 compact (101 hrs) and he's nice so the battery life on OPX is bad is that true? and i don't like the biggest size like z2 1+1 and i hope the OPX is good in one hand
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I find the OPX pretty comfortable to use with just one hand. And battery averages around 5hrs SOT for me, but I don't play games, so it may vary for you. My usage includes watching a lot of videos, and quite a lot of browsing.
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I find the OPX pretty comfortable to use with just one hand. And battery averages around 5hrs SOT for me, but I don't play games, so it may vary for you. My usage includes watching a lot of videos, and quite a lot of browsing.
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tanks for your opinion i hope this phone will make me happy
Yassane said:
hi users of oneplus X, i want to buy oneplus X and i already read the specs and it's look great but I want your opinions about the phone (battery life, ROM, camera, multitasking in 3Gb of RAM , bug,otg,the amoled display it's look great or not,.........)
Sorry for bad english
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I love my OPX! Sexy AF. I'm actually on the lookout for a second one. LMK if you find one for a decent price
I don't have huge hands, so this size of device is perfect for me. I like the fact that OnePlus caters to rooting and custom ROM's because I like to tinker.
- Battery: I was a little off-put by the battery life at first, but then I realized it was the OOS ROM. I moved to RR, and now I get over well over a day without having to charge. When its less than that, I know its some app messing with my life.
- ROM: go with CM13
- Camera: use Sultans HAL mod; I've never had any complaints with the picture or video quality
- Multitasking: the 3 GB RAM has always been more than enough for me
- OTG: a bit finicky, but it may have been the native app or my adapter. I use MiXplorer now and it works a charm
- I love the display. I have DPI set at 400 and black theme everywhere.
Other points:
- wireless charging would be nice, but for the price I'm not complaining!
- the tri-state notifications button is pretty useful.
IMHO this phone is by far the best in its class - I have owned a lot of phones. Now when I find myself considering a new phone, I compare it to my OPX and it doesn't come close.
I've had a few mishaps with it; but always been able to repair it.
cheers!

Worthy successor to my beloved 1st Gen Moto G

I've been looking up upgrade my trusty ol' Moto G for quite a while, the horrible camera, lack of RAM and old bottom end processor were its Achilles heel, but until now I have been unable to find a phone that I thought would work for me. With skepticism I decided to go for the XC despite the lack of dev support and general love for this phone, and so far I'm happy that I got it (I bought the white one, good choice). My hope is that this phone becomes popular with the community and developers. Anyway just wanted to introduce myself to the forum, I usually don't post a whole lot but I do read through.
I am exactly in your position although I didn't buy it yet. Still reading infos about it and stuff...but I'm glad to read your opinion. I still think Moto G 1gen dimensions are perfect so I think too this would be perfect. :good:
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I am exactly in your position although I didn't buy it yet. Still reading infos about it and stuff...but I'm glad to read your opinion. I still think Moto G 1gen dimensions are perfect so I think too this would be perfect. :good:
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The longer I use this phone the more I love it. So snappy, takes awesome pictures, great design. It's a big upgrade from the OG moto G
I just got the phone but I would agree the Moto G did a lot right! It's been my backup for years and I think it's all because of that awesome rugged case moto sold as an accessory! The sim slot was destroyed by adapters I've used over time and I never had the LTE version. The community kept it going strong though and the generations after just weren't true to what I liked about the original. I've had a z3c before the Xc and I love holding this device but I'm VERY disappointed by the amount of bloat on this phone. If I can't get root or a slimmer AOSP like ROM from Sony suitable for a daily before my return period is up it's hasta la vista X Compact! Not paying 400 dollars to be pestered about updates to software I don't even use and an uninstallable Facebook app! Get that piece of crap software off my phone!
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I just got the phone but I would agree the Moto G did a lot right! It's been my backup for years and I think it's all because of that awesome rugged case moto sold as an accessory! The sim slot was destroyed by adapters I've used over time and I never had the LTE version. The community kept it going strong though and the generations after just weren't true to what I liked about the original. I've had a z3c before the Xc and I love holding this device but I'm VERY disappointed by the amount of bloat on this phone. If I can't get root or a slimmer AOSP like ROM from Sony suitable for a daily before my return period is up it's hasta la vista X Compact! Not paying 400 dollars to be pestered about updates to software I don't even use and an uninstallable Facebook app! Get that piece of crap software off my phone!
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I disabled the bloatware from the apps drawer (just long press in a blank area), not as good a solution as a custom ROM but it'll do in the mean time
PRODIG4L said:
I disabled the bloatware from the apps drawer (just long press in a blank area), not as good a solution as a custom ROM but it'll do in the mean time
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I took this advice but was still not satisfied. I started searching, watched a youtube that led me to this software:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 which is MUCH better than using sony's version of "disabling"
For example: After disabling Facebook I discovered using the above tool that two facebook apk's were left untouched, com.facebook.system.apk and com.facebook.appmanager.apk
The only thing left would be to destroy the symlink to the app store for these apps that I want gone. Anyone know if that's possible without root?
Also, anyone know if a "Concept" rom from Sony might be on it's way? Xperia X got one and if we had root I'm sure there's a developer out there with the talent to port it over.
psilocybenine said:
I took this advice but was still not satisfied. I started searching, watched a youtube that led me to this software:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 which is MUCH better than using sony's version of "disabling"
For example: After disabling Facebook I discovered using the above tool that two facebook apk's were left untouched, com.facebook.system.apk and com.facebook.appmanager.apk
The only thing left would be to destroy the symlink to the app store for these apps that I want gone. Anyone know if that's possible without root?
Also, anyone know if a "Concept" rom from Sony might be on it's way? Xperia X got one and if we had root I'm sure there's a developer out there with the talent to port it over.
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Thanks for sharing, i'll give it a try when I get some time to tinker with my phone. looks like a good solution.
PRODIG4L said:
Thanks for sharing, i'll give it a try when I get some time to tinker with my phone. looks like a good solution.
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It helps. It even allows you to hide/disable the sony apps that the sony launcher itself doesn't allow you to. To be safe I searched the app I wanted to hide on apkmirror to find out the actual apk name and then looked for that in the software.
I do have a moto g and am considering to buy X compact. The only thing stopping me from doing it is lack of official CM support. Can someone comment on this?
I also had an Xperia ray which was awesome as well.

Question Considering Purchasing this phone

Hi all,
I'm considering a Motorola (or a Nokia) as my next phone to upgrade replace my HTC U12+.
I'd like to hear opinions from those that own this phone their thoughts and views about it. Also this phone is 'rootable'?
Thanks for your time.
Rootable and almost clean as stock pixel experience. And definitely fast (top 5) in benchmarking.
lekiaM said:
Rootable and almost clean as stock pixel experience. And definitely fast (top 5) in benchmarking.
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Thanks for your feedback. I've found an awesome deal on this phone from The Good Guys, a little over $200 off what JB want for it.
Definitely can recommend.
The battery is fantastic, plug it in for 15 minutes and you'r up by 30-40%, lasts a day for me easily, sometimes for 2.
The performance is smooth, no bloatware, just a moto app to allow stuff like gestures (start flashlight or camera with motions, I use that REALLY often).
Also, the loudspeakers are really good, and Dolby Digital software really improves the sound.
Unfortunately it's a motorola so dont expect software updates too often.
I just bought this phone and it’s awesome (I stayed one month without a phone). I love it, the phone is so smooth and fast, battery life is good, and clean software
I'm also considering this phone, but I truly enjoy more than rooting my phone. Are there any rom development projects or similar stuff under way?
I always wanted to make my own rom, if I learn how to do it I would definitely make one.
markitosd said:
I'm also considering this phone, but I truly enjoy more than rooting my phone. Are there any rom development projects or similar stuff under way?
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for now there's nothing, but now that the rest of the edge 30 phones (edge 30, edge 30 lite) are out, maybe the interest will spike.
Be careful if you want to root Edge 30 Pro/Edge+ 2022.
You may lose paid subscription video access like Netflix (-93) or Prime.
What about the cameras? Battery life? Heating? Thanks.
And how about the build quality. It has plastic frame. Is this a problem?
I've had this phone about two months. Can say it hasn't disappointed. As others have mentioned, it's fast! Battery lasts and lasts. Bloatware apps are ok, tolerable. Smooth as silk.
I can recommend.
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Be careful if you want to root Edge 30 Pro/Edge+ 2022.
You may lose paid subscription video access like Netflix (-93) or Prime.
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This is keeping me from rooting I want my daughter to have full G Pay via NFC and i also wanted to root it to do a full and proper backup/restore i keep seeing comments about unlocked bootloaders on thid newest Moto Edge will cause GPay issues.......Neflix Prime NOT as big a deal BUT Gpay is
Any updates on this??

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