LG G5 long term reliability & failures? What's the consensus as we begin 2017 - LG G5 Questions & Answers

I just wanted to ask the community for reports on how reliable the LG G5 has been????
It would be great to hear from professionals in the business who have first hand knowledge and experience. (techs, etc)
I demo'd a LG G5 at launch, and the fingerprint scanner stopped working 1 month in when I used a paper towel sprayed with Windex to clean the back of the phone.
Needless to say, my faith in the reliability of the G5 was ruined at that point.
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S6 on Sprint,
but I'm thinking about moving to a G5 because the v20 is too large for my taste.
Thank you.

My issue is I occasionally do not receive texts. I've reset my phone changed sim cards and reset network settings. It still happens and I haven't had this issue with any of the 8+ different phones ive owned. I've had it for about 2 months.

I have the G5 on Sprint with the newest version of Android. I have zero issues and I love this phone!
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No issues! It's pretty solid. I've rooted other phones, usually quickly after getting them, in-the-past. No reason to do that, so far. It has a pretty minimal load/apps. Love mine! :good:

I cracked my screen and LG only charged me $150 all in for repair, so that wasn't bad. The phone fell out of my pocket while I was riding my motorcycle and the screen was the only damage (though it had a case on), so that might say something good about the overall durability.
I just realized my volume down key has stopped working, so back to LG Warranty Repair (their dime this time) it goes. So that's pretty frustrating.
Had phone since launch.

4 months of usage and the only issue is the screen-burn-in

Crazy you guys have burn in. Got mine opening day and it's been flawless since.
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Joylesstuna said:
My issue is I occasionally do not receive texts. I've reset my phone changed sim cards and reset network settings. It still happens and I haven't had this issue with any of the 8+ different phones ive owned. I've had it for about 2 months.
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Does it do it without case?
Decepticaons said:
Crazy you guys have burn in. Got mine opening day and it's been flawless since.
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Don't curse yourself bro lol. Thought I was safe after 3-4 months and I was wrong. It's occasionally and goes away tho.
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Same issue without case Nick.

No burn in, I've only had micro SD unmount on its own once. Everything works well.
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Anyone else?
I'm thinking about getting a LG G5 from Sprint.
But, I have heard the G5 has a lot of reliability issues.

Nope, no issues..
Would love to have the skin for it though but I cant buy it anywhere here ..
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Got my phone since September 2016. Only one issue, "image retention". But doesn't stays that long. Love my G5. Wasn't amazed on G6 :v. Hope G7 is a better one.

Had the phone since Oct2016 but I would not recommend it unless you got it super cheap. The battery life has taken a dive and I cannot find the culprit but considering it was that great to begin with it sucks even more now (2hr SoT, moderate usage).

If you care about root, don't get sprint version. Honestly a lot of the problems seem to happen to older versions. I am sorry guys but don't buy G6! Specs are barely an upgrade. Same ram and worst camera? How the hell is that an upgrade? The only thing I want of it is water resistance.
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Nick216ohio said:
Does it do it without case?
Don't curse yourself bro lol. Thought I was safe after 3-4 months and I was wrong. It's occasionally and goes away tho.
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Been 11 months, still no issues. Battery life still awesome. Only reason I'm upgrading is because the modular design is dead. LG G6 looks pretty.
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bluerain28 said:
Got my phone since September 2016. Only one issue, "image retention". But doesn't stays that long. Love my G5. Wasn't amazed on G6 :v. Hope G7 is a better one.
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Install Blue Light Filter app and set it to 5 percent. It should reduce your image retention to almost none.
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I got mine May 2016. I did get the image retention after a while but I just installed Blue Light Filter and image retention is gone. After around 7 months my GPS stopped working. Luckily the fix is easy and it takes 10 minutes but it still requires you to open the phone. Last thing is the rear camera glass is not so scratch resistant so I replaced mine (by myself, part cost me 2.5$ from China). Other than that all good. Battery is great, camera is great, software is great, plenty of fast, speaker is loud, love the IR blaster and if course the removable battery. I always carry a second battery in my bag so I literally don't care about battery level and it's amazing if you travel. I do think that image retention should not happen for a flagship and the same for GPS.. with that in mind, this is the only one on the market with almost every feature I wanted. Oh, the wide angle is awesome. I'm jealous at lake with G6 because the wide angle is now 13MP. Oh well..

No failures so far. Six months into a second-hand 830 G5 and I've got one good horror story. Phone got put in drying machine in coat pocket. Exited pocket, exited flap case, wore-off enamel on edges and corners, shut down in overheat... Even the questionably-designed (imho) detachable battery chin made it through with barely any functional damage. I just removed the chin screws and reset the mic/speaker strip that got slightly dislodged. No scratches normally visible on the gorilla glass. Overall, my G5 survived this horrific ordeal triumphantly. I wouldn't have expected any phone to survive the hot metal drum, but the detachable chin didn't even detach. For what it's worth, no screen burn-in noticed at any point, before or after. I purchased a second battery that tends to hold charge better than the one I got with the phone. Fingerprint scanner still works normally, vibration, cameras... Volume keys are more reliable when phone is used in a case -how they respond to pressure was altered somehow by the ordeal- but I'd still consider my particular phone 80% reliable after everything, rooted, rommed and all. I wouldn't have thought, but the G5 is a tough muther.

Well, both the G6 and Samsung S8 are complete failures due to the non-removable batteries and glass construction.
The LG G5 issue being reported of boot looping, GPS issues, and screen issues really has me scared to buy a LG G5, even though the specs are what I want.
So, before I buy a new LG G5, just wanted to check in again.
What's the current consensus on the long term performance and reliability of the LG G5?
Thanks in advance.

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Well, both the G6 and Samsung S8 are complete failures due to the non-removable batteries and glass construction.
The LG G5 issue being reported of boot looping, GPS issues, and screen issues really has me scared to buy a LG G5, even though the specs are what I want.
So, before I buy a new LG G5, just wanted to check in again.
What's the current consensus on the long term performance and reliability of the LG G5?
Thanks in advance.
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I am using this device for the past four weeks. I did loads of heavy tests like flashing custom ROM few times and revert to stock ROM using UPPERCUT. Flashed incorrect kernel and thought I bricked my phone. But as long as the phone could boot in to bootloader, we can play around a lot. I don't see bootloops in normal operations. I forced flashing mods though I know not correct one, I partioned interal memory and lost all memory except 4gb which was used for system ROM. I could revert everything to factory / unboxed state. Happy with this device so far as I like the spec mainly camera and screen resolution. I could take very pro photos. Night shoots are fantastic. I would recommend buying this device.
I could not find this device in phone stores as they stopped selling because of SE version and also LG6 planned release. Ordered from Amazon and luckily had one for the best price £244. They had only one on stock. ?
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Anyone jump from G4 to this?

Just curious if this is a worthy upgrade at this point. Thanks.
I did. It was worth it for me, but I desire the larger screen and fingerprint scanner.
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Yeah I also came from the G4. It's definitely a bit larger, but I am in love with the more premium materials (steel and rubber back - and I had the leather back on my G4), the flat back vs curved on the g4, second screen, fingerprint scanner. Definitely was worth it for me. Oh also the dual front facing cameras are surprisingly useful.
Yep, when I moved from Sprint to T-Mobile in December I also switched from the G4 to the V10. No way I could go back either. FPS, larger display, solid build, the weight, added camera software make it a worthy upgrade.
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Yep, when I moved from Sprint to T-Mobile in December I also switched from the G4 to the V10. No way I could go back either. FPS, larger display, solid build, the weight, added camera software make it a worthy upgrade.
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Same here for all the same reasons. Premium device vs G4. Very impressed thus far and seems much faster. Also has no touch screen issues
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Thanks, guys. Is the second screen a part of the 5.7" specs they claim? Was it awkward at first?
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Thanks, guys. Is the second screen a part of the 5.7" specs they claim? Was it awkward at first?
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No, 5.7 is the main screen... And no, it's not really awkward at all, I really love looking at it and knowing what my notifications are, instead of a blinking light. Also love the phone controls show up there if you are using the phone for something else, instead of blocking out the screen.
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Went from 2 dead LG G4s to the V10
I went from 2 dead LG G4's with nothing but problems to the V10. Best cell phone I have ever had.
Lots of memory, lots of flash, great display, nice camera.
The two front cameras are cute.
The only drawback is you can't move the status line to the 2nd display when the phone is on. I can't believe LG missed that one.
Now if only LG didn't want $100 for the official wireless charging back.
Prior to the G4 I had the Galaxy S3, S4 and S5.
Every single switch I've made, starting with N4 has been an upgrade. Same goes for G4 to V10. G4 felt like a toy after holding the 10 lol I despise the speaker but the larger screen makes up for that. Overall satisfied. I got a good deal on it as well, so wouldn't have made the jump if I had to shell out the full price.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the LG G6, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the LG G6 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Bought the phone preorder on the 17th and it came in on the 30th. So far I love this phone. Coming from the 6P its not renewed my interest in Android phones after not caring about upgrading for a year or two. Phone feels great in hand, runs smooth, looks awesome, and battery life impresses me. No complaints. Went to Best Buy to try out the S8 since Im still in the 14 day return period and decided to keep the G6.
Easily the best phone on the market. I keep the same phones for years, last phone being an LG-G2. This is the first phone that I was willing to upgrade to. Only thing I need now is ROOT so I can have my backup LG-G6 and this one synced exactly and just swap if any issues occur. NANDROID backups are crucial to me, so it's the only thing I feel I need at this point.
Just picked mine up from Verizon yesterday. First time with an LG Phone. It's alright so far- my older phone (nexus 5X) had the power button above the volume, and i'm pretty used to that. So that's an adjustment. But overall, I think that it's very nice. Fast, and feels durable. No major complaints.
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Just picked mine up from Verizon yesterday. First time with an LG Phone. It's alright so far- my older phone (nexus 5X) had the power button above the volume, and i'm pretty used to that. So that's an adjustment. But overall, I think that it's very nice. Fast, and feels durable. No major complaints.
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Not your first time with an LG phone. The 5X was manufactured by LG.
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Not your first time with an LG phone. The 5X was manufactured by LG.
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I was going to say the same thing but didnt want a negative perception of the G6. My girlfriend got her 5X when I got my 6P and that 5X didn't hold up well at all.
I came from 6p > one plus 3t > g6.
Love it
Just itching for TWRP and custom roms and MAYHEM!
I went from Sanyo MM5600 -> Sanyo MM9000 -> HTC One -> LG G2 -> LG G6. As you can see, I keep my phones for YEARS.
I just need root now for the Transparent modded Google Store, and to be able to remove bloatware.
great battery life, snappy performance, quick boot up, build quality is wonderful only con: bloatware.
I was an iPhone user. This phone grabbed my attention and I really like it so far.
I came from a Galaxy S7 which specs wise wasn't much of an upgrade.. Though, this phone runs circles around my Snapdragon S7 and doesn't seem to show any hint of slowing down.
I just picked this up today and I'm coming from a Nexus 6.
I have to say that this phone is making me sad. It's smaller than my beautiful giant and I just discovered that in the Google Play Music App there is no equalizer so my $200 Sony Bluetooth headphones sound like **** when casting from this phone. I ask for so little from a phone but for a manufacturer to kneecap an app that I use all of the time is making me want to return this thing. I honestly think I'd rather suffer with my 2+ year old beast with it's battery that is fading than use a phone that is making me cringe.
The zippiness of the processor and the 1 GB extra of memory doesn't seem to be enough to make me embrace this phone. I so wanted to like it.
There are apps for EQ. I used to use some on my G2 and they worked well.
I love this phone. Went up from an LG G3, which I also loved. This new phone is a work horse and charges lightening fast! I was not too happy about them making the battery permanent and only offering a 32GB model. But the fact that it's waterproof was something I was willing to give up (not being able to exchange the battery feature). To get over the 32GB drawback, I purchased a 256GB micro sd card for my phone, then used the tool to split the memory between the internal and SD card ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/auto-formatting-sdcard-to-internal-t3583875 ). The screen is awesome and the performance is so smooth. I do miss having root but the features this phone offers almost gives me every option I had with root on my LG G3. The fact that Sprint offered this phone at 50% off, allows me to pay in payments without interest, and finally they give me a Google Home unit for free made this purchase a no brainer.
Hammy1066 said:
I just picked this up today and I'm coming from a Nexus 6.
I have to say that this phone is making me sad. It's smaller than my beautiful giant and I just discovered that in the Google Play Music App there is no equalizer so my $200 Sony Bluetooth headphones sound like **** when casting from this phone. I ask for so little from a phone but for a manufacturer to kneecap an app that I use all of the time is making me want to return this thing. I honestly think I'd rather suffer with my 2+ year old beast with it's battery that is fading than use a phone that is making me cringe.
The zippiness of the processor and the 1 GB extra of memory doesn't seem to be enough to make me embrace this phone. I so wanted to like it.
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I am surprised that you didn't looked at the specs and do a side-by-side comparison before purchasing it.
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I love this phone. Went up from an LG G3, which I also loved. This new phone is a work horse and charges lightening fast! I was not too happy about them making the battery permanent and only offering a 32GB model. But the fact that it's waterproof was something I was willing to give up (not being able to exchange the battery feature). To get over the 32GB drawback, I purchased a 256GB micro sd card for my phone, then used the tool to split the memory between the internal and SD card ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/auto-formatting-sdcard-to-internal-t3583875 ). The screen is awesome and the performance is so smooth. I do miss having root but the features this phone offers almost gives me every option I had with root on my LG G3. The fact that Sprint offered this phone at 50% off, allows me to pay in payments without interest, and finally they give me a Google Home unit for free made this purchase a no brainer.
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I am ready to upgrade my G3 but am surprised that Verizon hasn't offered any discount on the G6 yet. I can wait until they offer the $10 a month deal like they did on the iphones last year.
Coming from the Note 5 the LG6 transition has been such a smooth experience. Most of the bloatware can be deleted in 2 minutes and the other frozen so really have no gripe about not having root. Battery life is excellent and aod works well. Never have been a fan of led notifications as for the ir for tv never used that so don't miss it. The software experience from lg is fluid and lag free and have come along way from the lg flex/flex2 I owned in the past. I installed a 128g micro Sd card and loaded my music ,movies and pictures on it so not having 64g to start is not a big deal. Being a camera fan this has been a joy to use and shoot. I mainly use manual mode and the macro shooting is incredible. Night shooting I use a tripod and have been able to take some amazing shots. Everyone talks about the premium feel and this phone has it. Fingerprint sensor is fast and accurate and placement is perfect.
The Lg G6 just feels right in the hand with the weight and thickness being just right. I am using the Spigen Neo case and is still smaller than my note 5 with no case. The only downside with the G6 is the headphone jack output could be a little louder. I am sure this phone will only get better with future updates and overall this is an amazing phone. In simple terms the G6 just works:good:
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Coming from the Note 5 the LG6 transition has been such a smooth experience. Most of the bloatware can be deleted in 2 minutes and the other frozen so really have no gripe about not having root. Battery life is excellent and aod works well. Never have been a fan of led notifications as for the ir for tv never used that so don't miss it. The software experience from lg is fluid and lag free and have come along way from the lg flex/flex2 I owned in the past. I installed a 128g micro Sd card and loaded my music ,movies and pictures on it so not having 64g to start is not a big deal. Being a camera fan this has been a joy to use and shoot. I mainly use manual mode and the macro shooting is incredible. Night shooting I use a tripod and have been able to take some amazing shots. Everyone talks about the premium feel and this phone has it. Fingerprint sensor is fast and accurate and placement is perfect.
The Lg G6 just feels right in the hand with the weight and thickness being just right. I am using the Spigen Neo case and is still smaller than my note 5 with no case. The only downside with the G6 is the headphone jack output could be a little louder. I am sure this phone will only get better with future updates and overall this is an amazing phone. In simple terms the G6 just works:good:
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I noticed you moved from a Note 5 to the G6- could you comment on how your experience was with moving from AMOLED to LCD on this phone? I'm going to replace my Note 4 soon (i still love that phone) and haven't ever used LCD. I was really tempted by the LG V20- still chewing on maybe doing that instead. Thanks!
Oled has better blacks but G6 is respectable and the G6 looks better on everything else It all a matter of preference. Was at Best Buy today and played again with the S8 and in no way felt the S8 was better. G6 was more fluid and the screen whites just seal the deal. The note 5 I had needed root to get a better phone experience on the other hand LG has done it right out of the box and is a pleasure to use. Root is not needed to enjoy the G6.
Another note holding the S8 it just feels cheap where the G6 feels like money well spent. I purchased mine off Ebay new in box for 450.00. I consider it a steal at tjat price.
When I first got the LG G6 I wasn't terribly happy with it at first considering they removed one of my favorite features the IR blaster, and a few other things but I realize I guess I was more or less avoiding change. Now that I warmed up to the phone and also compared it to the S8 I'm definitely glad I stuck with LG. My battery life is definitely Superior to most of the phones I've had in the past I'm able to get almost a full day out of it was very heavy use and most of my features like location and Bluetooth on. As far as the design of the phone it is definitely a sturdy and sleek-looking phone. I do have issues with the Bluetooth app force closing a lot and I don't enjoy having the volume buttons on the side again. I keep turning off my screen when I instinctively go to turn up the volume. But with that being said the S8 does not have the remote feature on it and the speaker location is in the exact same spot meaning I'll cover it with my phone sideways on either phones. I did get a case and that has helped. Another thing that I like about the LG G6 is the location for the power and fingerprint reader is place in a very good spot and feels natural when turning it on and off. I can't wait for a route to come for custom kernels and ROMs but if it's anything like the G4 that may or may not ever happen. I've had the LG G3 G4 and now the G6 and I can definitely say I'm glad I'm sticking with LG and I feel some of my first reviews on it work bias based off of me wanting it to be like my old phone.
Great phone, snappy, all the features I really want, and no gimmicky curved screen. Side by side with the S8, this is the winner. Always had samsungs notes 2,3,4,5,(rip7)- and thought I was scared of LCD for no reason.

Got mine... So far, so awful.

I can't believe how laggy and how horrible this thing scores on benchmarks. I am getting 118k on AnTuTu and 1200/3200 in Geekbench. Worse than the G5. I wiped it and ran the tests again with the same results. About three hours into ownership and I am totally disappointed. It's probably going back to TMobile.
I think mine is way too narrow also. Feels like a 5" inch phone. Thought it would be way wider.
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<snip> Thought it would be way wider.
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Why ? A 18:9 has less screen area than a 16:9 with the same diag measurement. This has been noted in reviews of the phone.
As noted in this review, the total screen area is actually a little larger than the iPhone 7 plus and in a smaller body, but still less total screen area than a 5.7" phone with a 16:9 ratio.
http://amp.androidcentral.com/189-world-we-need-new-way-quantify-screen-size
Jajajaja it does feel small maybe is out mind playing tricks
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For some odd reason the nav bar is absolutely enormous, even in small display mode, making the usable area of the screen quite a bit less than 5.7, making it feel much more like 5.2/౩. If it weren't for the always on display this thing would already be back in the box.
I'm assuming you guys have not taken an update, if there even is one. In order to preserve whatever root method comes about first?
I disabled updates.
I feel like my head is being squeezed and getting headache using the G6 its so dam narrow. Going back to my 8" LG X Pad.
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At least there is a 2 week window for returns. If needed.
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At least there is a 2 week window for returns. If needed.
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I'd hate to return it. I do love the two cameras, fingerprint reader, wireless charging, and being waterproof.
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Dont say such things as return this is the future etc s8 so we better get used to it.
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It really does feel laggy to me. Even moving around the play store, scrolling web pages. Am I just spoiled by iOS?
Idk it felt slow and as you said, benchmarks are way less than those others with an SD821
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It really does feel laggy to me. Even moving around the play store, scrolling web pages. Am I just spoiled by iOS?
Idk it felt slow and as you said, benchmarks are way less than those others with an SD821
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Yea I score way more than that on my v20, once you root and remove the bloat you guys will be fine. For the ones complaining of size have you held the v20, that maybe the phone for ya.
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Yea I score way more than that on my v20, once you root and remove the bloat you guys will be fine. For the ones complaining of size have you held the v20, that maybe the phone for ya.
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My G6 feels faster than my G4. I almost got the V20 but it didn't have wireless charging. I got a wireless charging sticker for the G4. I'll try to get use to this odd 5.7" screen size.
The G6 really reminds me of my old 5" HTC DNA with Verizon that was the 1st phone to have wireless charging back in like 2012.
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After a full days use on my T-Mobile LG G6, it's definitely not as buttery as my Pixel but performance is good enough for an Android device running last year's silicon. You can tell the software isn't optimized for the SD821 like it is on the Pixel. The Pixel is by far the smoothest phone I've ever used.
So far the only thing that bugs me is the uneven LCD screen, the bottom half is warmer than the top which triggers my OCD like crazy and I see it every time on a white background. Brings back memories of my OnePlus One days where I had to exchange 4 different times to get a half way decent screen.
I'm getting really good battery life so far which is a good sign and it charges way faster than my Pixel it seems. Camera so far has been pretty meh... I took a few night pictures and they come out better on my Pixel.
So far, Pixel to me is still the king, I'll most likely return this thing and try the Galaxy S8. If that doesn't blow me away, I'm hanging onto my Pixel until the next gen version.
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After a full days use on my T-Mobile LG G6, it's definitely not as buttery as my Pixel but performance is good enough for an Android device running last year's silicon. You can tell the software isn't optimized for the SD821 like it is on the Pixel. The Pixel is by far the smoothest phone I've ever used.
So far the only thing that bugs me is the uneven LCD screen, the bottom half is warmer than the top which triggers my OCD like crazy and I see it every time on a white background. Brings my memories of my OnePlus One day where I had to exchange 4 different times to get a half way decent screen.
I'm getting really good battery life so far which is a good sign and it charges way faster than my Pixel it seems. Camera so far has been pretty meh... I took a few night pictures and on my Pixel they come out better.
So far, Pixel to me is still the king, I'll most likely return this thing and try the Galaxy S8. If that doesn't blow me again, I'm hanging onto my Pixel until the next gen version.
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Don't worry once you guys get root you can use kcal to adjust screen calibration as we guys with the v20s are doing
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By the time we root do anything it'll be time to jump to an S8+ lol. Just need to get this google home order submitted.
how do you guys already have you're G6'?
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how do you guys already have you're G6'?
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T-Mobile shipped out their pre-orders early
yeah I`m waiting on ATT version, but I`m been with android forever, I`m also thinking of getting Iphone 7 plus and I have played with my wife`s phone and love how smooth and quick it is, not sure yet.........but I`m little concerned with the issues reported
Root is not fixing this thing's performance issues. It's not bloat causing it, its just clearly unoptimized. You will definitely want software updates enabled to get hopefully optimized software.

Considering an upgrade from v20 (got some Qs)

I really fancy LG phones especially post v10/g4 fiasco. I am debating upgrading between two devices. The Note 8 and v30. Had the Pixel 2 had expandable memory and a headphone jack I would have picked it against all others since they get the latest updates the quickest.
My v30 concerns are the following:
- glass back (what a stupid design, whats the point when you are going to wear a case that hides it anyway?), how is it holding up on this phone? Can it take falls?
- camera quality vs v20, better? Same? Worse? I am more concerned about the rear camera not the selfie camera but want to hear about both.
- the big one, battery life. Since I am going to have to give up one of the best features of LGs previous phones does this phone last all day with Bluetooth connected and playing music? I like the v20 cause I've got an extended battery so I don't have to worry about stupid mid day charges.
- "secondary screen" replacement software. Does it work as well as the real thing or is it just a pain in the ass? This is specifically for the folks that used the second screen on the previous generations.
.. And finally those who've upgraded from the v20 would you do it again? What's the pros and cons between the two?
Thanks for any input! [emoji2]
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I upgraded from a V20 to a V30. The selfie cam is definitely worse, but the rear camera is at least as good if not better.
I find the battery life to be nothing short of stellar on the V30. Yesterday I had 17 hours off the charger, with 5 hours of screen on time when the battery hit 15%.
It seems to be pretty tough for a glass phone, but it's absolutely more fragile than the V20. I highly recommend using a case. I had a few minor drops without one and the metal edges will get dinged or scratched if it hits there in a drop. A few people have reported breaking the glass on the back, as well.
The floating bar in combination with the always on display is a decent replacement for the second screen, but I personally don't like having the arrow button on screen all the time.
The thing that I miss the most is the IR blaster for controlling my TV and sound bar, actually. I also think I slightly prefer the 16:9 aspect ratio of the V20's screen. Videos appear larger than they do on the 2:1 screen of the V30. The V30's OLED definitely blows the V20 LCD away, even if it's not as nice as a Samsung display might be, however.
Overall, I'm really happy with the phone and I'd upgrade again. It feels an entire age more modern to use this phone. The biggest change I noticed was the speed. Opening apps and multitasking and doing everything happens noticably quicker.
Oh yeah, and I still can't get over how dang lightweight and easy to hold the V30 is. It really did feel insubstantial at first, but I don't think I could go back after getting used to it.
I came from the v10 to the V20 to the s8 less than a month (HATED IT!) And now to the V30.
Love it all around except for the front camera which seems like it went from a great camera to an average one.
I absolutely loved the 2nd screen on my V20. But it's not a deal breaker not having it. The floating bar thing is annoying to me.
It's also faster, it seems. Better looking phone. I hate glass casing around phones but I always have a tech21 case so meh
Screen is awesome on the V30. Much improvement. However, I'd like the 16x9 ratio back as well but you wouldn't notice if someone didn't tell you.
Battery seems great now, but it's too new to tell how the battery degrades over time. I was having to charge my V20 2 or 3 times a day.
This is also the first device I've ever ran without root, adguard is the gift of that.
I miss the ir blaster somewhat. Overall, you'd be very happy if you went from the 20 to the 30
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The LG g8x meh meh meeeeh

I'll start with my final thoughts, the LG G8X is a mid tier phone with a flagship design, spec wise its on the lower end of the "flagship" phones. Without the second screen the G8X would be a easy pass.
I've had the phone for about a month now, design wise its not premium, its not smooth or fluid around the edges front to back, the buttons sticks out a bit too much IMO, compare to my S9 plus its about the same thickness maybe a 2mm thicker front to back. it feels ok in the hand, I would never want to drop it, unlike all the other major brands I could not find a case or screen protector from Amazon Canada that was not shipping from China. I end up going to ebay to find a case, even the retailer could not find a case, this is how far LG have fallen.
Costco no longer carry LG phones nor does Rogers and best buy since the G7. Back to cases, it seems in other regions LG gave a case and headphones with the phone, for that frak you LG that was a shyty thing to do, for now I have to keep the phone in the dual screen case to protect it. Not including a case to all market is a disappointing move on LG part. (update) I just sold my S9 plus, the buyer was surprised the phone was used because of the condition the phone was in, zero scratches anywhere on the phone because I had a screen protector and various cases on the phone since day one ( Our secret don't tell the buyer I dropped that phone at least 5 times ). I finally received 2 case I bought from ebay as I could not find any local retailer with any LG G8X accessories.
Before I forget, the charging cable needs to be longer its too short to use with the magnetic adapter, it looks really cool on youtube, that's because its super light weight but once you plug the cable in depending on where or how far your plug is it will not work, the weight of the cable going down my side table have caused the phone to not charge because the magnet came loose which led me to buying a new wireless charger because the G8X did not work with my was current wireless charger.
On to the important stuff, the second screen works (yeah), it turns on sometimes by itself when I don't want it on or it turns off and will not turn on until you disconnect the phone and reconnect it, I've had to power down the phone a couple times to get the second screen or the outside info screen working again. As for software, many of you already know its sucks, first off out of the box the unit was not working properly I had to a factory reset twice not a big deal but I never had to do this with any other brand new phone in the last 10 years. I tried using the the LG keyboard but had to change it to the GB.
I've notice I have to hit the back button 2, 3 times for anything to happen, same with the home button, I know I pressed it from the taptic feedback, sometimes there's just a delay either way we should not have these kind of issues on 2019 major brand phone "flagship" at that.
To conclude again the LG G8X is not a flagship phone design and software wise, the idea is great and somewhat refreshing but it is not a game changer in its current form. Software aside if this phone with dual screen cost $10 to $100 more it would be a major pass for me, without the dual screen it would be a major major major major pass at its current price, it would have priced lower than the one plus phones. New G8 can be had for $400 Cad so there you go.
I just got mine and i only got it as a second phone. This phone is a novelty to me. I think that any tech enthusiast buying this phone will buy it with extremely low expectations. This is an LG after all. The same company that hasn't turned a profit since Q3 2014
It's regrettable if you thought you would get flagship performance from this phone. I got it for the party tricks.
Other than that everything you said was spot on and i agree wholeheartedly.
Yeah, I had to disable things like Mini-View and Floating Bar, just because they don't work reliably enough. There are just lots of little things like that. The Samsung equivalents on my Note 8 works much more reliably and has better UI/UX.
It has much promise and potential, but they gotta work on the software and make the UI/UX more cohesive. Now, it's just too rough around the edges.
I think you have buggy phones. I have not had any issues with the duel screen turning on or off. For gaming (Call of Duty) the dual screen is amazing! Wide View is rubbish though as the case is too thick, but works ok for Facebook, seems to add to the experience not detract. Even if you end up reading from only one screen, knowing from peripheral vision what is coming next actually enhances the viewing experience.
I will admit the phone is a bit laggy at times but fingers crossed LG will release Android 10 and we'll get some improvements.
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I think you have buggy phones. I have not had any issues with the duel screen turning on or off. For gaming (Call of Duty) the dual screen is amazing! Wide View is rubbish though as the case is too thick, but works ok for Facebook, seems to add to the experience not detract. Even if you end up reading from only one screen, knowing from peripheral vision what is coming next actually enhances the viewing experience.
I will admit the phone is a bit laggy at times but fingers crossed LG will release Android 10 and we'll get some improvements.
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I'll have to agree with inzimam here. I haven't had any issues with this phone as of yet. It hasn't exhibited any of the characteristics that have been complained about thus far. No lag (at least, no more lag than what is to be expected from a phone), no stuttering, no screen randomly turning off and if it is off I can always get it to turn back on.
As far as the OP is concerned, yeah, if you wanted a phone that was easy to find cases for, you should have gone with an iPhone. Or at the very least, a Samsung. Cases have been and will always be cheap and plentiful for those phones. Everything else, good luck. You are gonna need it.
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I'll have to agree with inzimam here. I haven't had any issues with this phone as of yet. It hasn't exhibited any of the characteristics that have been complained about thus far. No lag (at least, no more lag than what is to be expected from a phone), no stuttering, no screen randomly turning off and if it is off I can always get it to turn back on.
As far as the OP is concerned, yeah, if you wanted a phone that was easy to find cases for, you should have gone with an iPhone. Or at the very least, a Samsung. Cases have been and will always be cheap and plentiful for those phones. Everything else, good luck. You are gonna need it.
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I respectfully disagree with both of you, I forgot to mention when in "dark" mode the notification is still white, how ridiculous is that, the software needs cleaning up, at least 3 times this week the second screen turned on when I unlocked the phone, I know for sure I did not have it on before. Today I got another vague update, no info other than it will make the phone work better, really LG.
You're I could've bought pretty much any other phone and found a case at locally not just an Iphone or Samsung, you bringing up 2 other popular brand is a moot point because you can find cases for Moto, Nokia, Sony, HTC, Honor, Huawei easily. Consumers voicing their opinion is the least we can do, we deserve better not just mediocre like what we got from LG.
I'm using the G8X without the dual screen case right now, I have to be honest its not a upgrade over my S9 plus, this have nothing to do with branding, I still have my G6, I'm no fanboy, I have a Android tablet and a Ipad mini, I see things for what they are..
I haven't reached yet, can anyone tell me if we can remap the google assist button, I hated it on my S9 plus I hate it the same on the G8X.
Thinking on your comment regarding the cases, only a id$#t would suggest to buy another phone if I wanted a case to protect my hard earn money that spent on this phone, finding a case was one issue but it shouldn't be one seeing that LG gave a case to other regions. The product should entice others instead companies after companies are dropping LG phones or their accessories, please leave this fanboyism out of this. LG as company could very well be in trouble, their phones are not selling as well as they should be, more and more companies are coming out with Oled panels so Lg and Sony are no longer the only game in town, in a few years LG oled TV will be meh in the marketplace.
LG needs to clean up the software on their phones, better build, stick to the innovation for at least 3 years, oh, the V50 got Android 10 why not the LGX the last phone you released?
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I respectfully disagree with both of you, I forgot to mention when in "dark" mode the notification is still white, how ridiculous is that, the software needs cleaning up, at least 3 times this week the second screen turned on when I unlocked the phone, I know for sure I did not have it on before. Today I got another vague update, no info other than it will make the phone work better, really LG.
You're I could've bought pretty much any other phone and found a case at locally not just an Iphone or Samsung, you bringing up 2 other popular brand is a moot point because you can find cases for Moto, Nokia, Sony, HTC, Honor, Huawei easily. Consumers voicing their opinion is the least we can do, we deserve better not just mediocre like what we got from LG.
I'm using the G8X without the dual screen case right now, I have to be honest its not a upgrade over my S9 plus, this have nothing to do with branding, I still have my G6, I'm no fanboy, I have a Android tablet and a Ipad mini, I see things for what they are..
I haven't reached yet, can anyone tell me if we can remap the google assist button, I hated it on my S9 plus I hate it the same on the G8X.
Thinking on your comment regarding the cases, only a id$#t would suggest to buy another phone if I wanted a case to protect my hard earn money that spent on this phone, finding a case was one issue but it shouldn't be one seeing that LG gave a case to other regions. The product should entice others instead companies after companies are dropping LG phones or their accessories, please leave this fanboyism out of this. LG as company could very well be in trouble, their phones are not selling as well as they should be, more and more companies are coming out with Oled panels so Lg and Sony are no longer the only game in town, in a few years LG oled TV will be meh in the marketplace.
LG needs to clean up the software on their phones, better build, stick to the innovation for at least 3 years, oh, the V50 got Android 10 why not the LGX the last phone you released?
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Hey, never said that I was right. Just that I haven't had those issues yet.
I agree with you about the dark mode notifications. I suspect that it has something to do with dark mode not officially being available for Android 9... Coming from the LG V30, I'll take any dark mode I can get though.
Not sure where you live, but where I've lived, unless you have an iPhone or Samsung, your options are to order a case online, or order a case online... The HTC One M8 is the last phone I had where cases were actually stocked somewhere in a decent selection... The HTC 10 had a pathetic offering of one case I found at Bell in Vancouver. The case on that phone was almost like Randy's kid brother Ralphie getting wrapped up by his mother to go to school from the movie A Christmas Story. The V30 had exactly double the number of cases as the HTC 10 did, and both were equally as pathetic. The better case was utterly useless after 3 months as it was falling apart. So while I may be an id#$t for suggesting purchasing another phone, it always seems to be that ic you want a decent case to protect your phone, the answer seems to be iPhone or Samsung cause i can never find anything but the cheap chinese garbage cases that wont protect anything let alone a glass sandwich.
As far as fanboyism goes, you should have seen me when Nokia announced they were gonna be purchased by Microsoft... Or when HTC sold its engineering division to Google... This isn't fanboyism... LG would need to make a product that I don't immediately want to re-skin with a third party launcher before I'd consider being a fanboy of LG. ... You know what? I'd even settle for an Android OS upgrade that doesn't drop almost 24 months since that version of Android launched. (Looking specifically at the Android 9 update for the V30 H933 model.) I don't even want a cleaned up OS... I just want a freaking update!
To be honest, all the good phone makers of years gone by are in financial trouble unless they are Apple or Samsung... Nokia got sold to Microsoft, HTC sold its soul to Google, Motorola sold numerous times only to be acquired by Lenovo, and just like that relationship, the big names that are left are still here because they have massive companies backing them up. They don't have to turn a profit to stay alive... Those who did are no more, or aren't what they used to be. If memory serves correctly, Sony and LG haven't turned a profit in phones in close to 5 years. HTC is all but dead, Nokia is a sliver of what it used to be, and we know what happened with Motorola.
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I'm gonna chime in because I've had ever single G and V series device since the G3 so I'm a big fan of LG devices.
I really tried to love the G8X. I think the price point in the us at least (albeit I'm in Canada) is spot on. The concept is fun and the screen is actually pretty nice. I liked the ui although slightly disappointed with night mode not having dark notifications. That will change with Android 10.
Theme system is still great. Actually lg has the best theme system on the market. I'm not talking about variety or quality but rather ability out of box to theme virtually anything with little restrictions.
I found battery life to be exceptionally good. I am also impressed with the sound quality of the device. It is a very loud device.
The second screen is cool and works very well. It obviously adds a lot of bulk and weight to the device. I found myself not actually using it after about a month. For me at least it just isn't needed. I don't play enough games and it just was more of something to show off to people like a hey look at this. But for my use it was impractical.
Camera is a big disappointment from what I'm used to with LG. I think they could have done better. Especially the front one. Mind you I don't do many selfies at all, but when I tested it I was disappointed.
Fingerprint sensor is absolutely horrible. I tried to pretend it wasn't crap but it really is bad. Slow and doesn't consistently work as many have complained. In the end I had to admit it just sucks. The animation for it was badass though. Having no face unlock is kinda disappointing. Even just regular face unlock would have been fine as it always worked well on other non tof devices.
What really killed me was how for at least Canadian devices for almost 2 months now LG has allowed devices to have broken LTE. November security patch broke LTE and lg simply told users to just not use lte and switch to 3g. I did find a fix and made a thread for it. Mind you my fix breaks voicemail shortcut. It does restore LTE. They still have not addressed this. That is completely unacceptable.
So I made the decision last week to sell my G8X. It pains me to say it but I feel I made the right call. It just isn't good enough. My G8 is just so much better and has better features imo.
I'm still kinda bummed about it but I did what I felt I needed to do to recover my money as best I could before the device that I just couldn't love no matter how hard I tried lost too much value.
I've had my G8X for about a month now, coming from a V30. Is it a gimmick? Sure... but it's an incredibly useful gimmick. I've had none of the issues the OP refers to. Zero crashes or second screen shutdowns. I find the fingerprint sensor to be only marginally worse than the case-back sensor on the V30, so to me it's a nonissue.
Complaining that without the second screen the G8X isn't all that is IMO a head-scratcher. The only reason to buy the G8X is for the second screen. If you're not going to use that, I don't know why you would buy this phone.
The charging issues I'm not going to address, as I have Qi wireless chargers both at home and my office, so I have yet to even try wired charging.
Do I wish the case front wasn't mirrored and a fingerprint magnet? Yes. Do I wish the front screen was more than a tiny notification screen? Yes. Since the case is a USB-C accessory, my hope is that either LG or third parties develop other second-screen options that improve the functionality and usability of the second screen case. That's the interesting thing about this approach compared to the "folding phones" model: accessory case replacements and improvements can presumably be acquired without having to replace the original phone.
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Fingerprint sensor is absolutely horrible. I tried to pretend it wasn't crap but it really is bad. Slow and doesn't consistently work as many have complained. In the end I had to admit it just sucks. The animation for it was badass though. Having no face unlock is kinda disappointing. Even just regular face unlock would have been fine as it always worked well on other non tof devices.
What really killed me was how for at least Canadian devices for almost 2 months now LG has allowed devices to have broken LTE. November security patch broke LTE and lg simply told users to just not use lte and switch to 3g. I did find a fix and made a thread for it. Mind you my fix breaks voicemail shortcut. It does restore LTE. They still have not addressed this. That is completely unacceptable.
So I made the decision last week to sell my G8X. It pains me to say it but I feel I made the right call. It just isn't good enough. My G8 is just so much better and has better features imo.
I'm still kinda bummed about it but I did what I felt I needed to do to recover my money as best I could before the device that I just couldn't love no matter how hard I tried lost too much value.
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Sad to see you go, But I totally agree with the fingerprint scanner. It's pitiful. Pathetic. Sorry excuse for a fingerprint scanner. As far as LG software goes, well, you know my opinion on that... The worst part about being stuck on the Android 8 update was Bluetooth on the V30 was so beyond buggy it was a freaking joke... I get your frustration with their pathetic software..
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I've had my G8X for about a month now, coming from a V30. Is it a gimmick? Sure... but it's an incredibly useful gimmick. I've had none of the issues the OP refers to. Zero crashes or second screen shutdowns. I find the fingerprint sensor to be only marginally worse than the case-back sensor on the V30, so to me it's a nonissue.
Complaining that without the second screen the G8X isn't all that is IMO a head-scratcher. The only reason to buy the G8X is for the second screen. If you're not going to use that, I don't know why you would buy this phone.
The charging issues I'm not going to address, as I have Qi wireless chargers both at home and my office, so I have yet to even try wired charging.
Do I wish the case front wasn't mirrored and a fingerprint magnet? Yes. Do I wish the front screen was more than a tiny notification screen? Yes. Since the case is a USB-C accessory, my hope is that either LG or third parties develop other second-screen options that improve the functionality and usability of the second screen case. That's the interesting thing about this approach compared to the "folding phones" model: accessory case replacements and improvements can presumably be acquired without having to replace the original phone.
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Agreed as well. What's keeping me here is I've found the second screen to be useful more than I thought I would, it's supposed to have a Quad DAC (I suspect the ESS Sabre 9218 out of the standard G8, but no one will tell me), and finally, because my pathetic phone carrier wont stock the standard G8.
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Sad to see you go, But I totally agree with the fingerprint scanner. It's pitiful. Pathetic. Sorry excuse for a fingerprint scanner. As far as LG software goes, well, you know my opinion on that... The worst part about being stuck on the Android 8 update was Bluetooth on the V30 was so beyond buggy it was a freaking joke... I get your frustration with their pathetic software..
Agreed as well. What's keeping me here is I've found the second screen to be useful more than I thought I would, it's supposed to have a Quad DAC (I suspect the ESS Sabre 9218 out of the standard G8, but no one will tell me), and finally, because my pathetic phone carrier wont stock the standard G8.
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Only thing I disagree with is the fingerprint scanner. It's not the best but it's definitely not horrible. Coming from the V30 which worked 10/10 times, the G8X works about 9/10 times. However, I still wish it had a face unlock. It would be nice to have it automatically unlock after opening the second screen.
I use the dual screen case about 50% of the time. Having two screens is super fun and useful but I find myself using it less and picking up my V30 more when I have it attached.
There are a few software hiccups that I do find annoying, mostly when I'm using the gestures so I just stick to the button navigation. Also pulling down the notification shade looks kind of janky so I hope they fix some of the animations.
I'm trying hard to love this phone but LG software experience is making hard. The fingerprint sensor is a 7/10 for me, battery life is a hit or miss, with the same usage, the phone in the case no dual screen sometimes I will get 6 hours screen time with 30% battery end of day but other times only 3.5 hours screen on with 34% end of day, more of the latter in my experience. As some mentioned the software is not smooth, be it flickering, delay or just not smooth, comfort view keeps turning off for not reason; lately I've been thinking about my S9+, I'm no fanboy I know Samsung had their issues but it was a better experience all around..
Anyhow hope we get android 10 soon and hopefully it fixes some of these issues, sad thing is you can pickup a G8 for around $300 Canadian, like I said if there was no second screen the G8/V50 would be a better buy if you're looking for an LG phone. I going to try a day or 2 without the dual screen case to see if I get a more consistent battery life.
I'm not hating on LG I just wish they would clean up their software before the go the way of BlackBerry. I think in the next week or so I going to post it for sale, just hope I don't lose money on it. I love the concept, idea, just from the wrong company. The LG G8X should've been released with android 10, instead LG is doing the same old thing, I would take a cleaner experience over android 10 but since I'm not getting either from LG I'll just complain and move on lol.
FYI you can turn on the second screen using the "knock on" or double tap feature.
Some of you that have issues with the screen turning on by itself could just be you accidentally double tapping that screen while handling the phone.
I was also able to find a case for it at The Source.
It's just a basic Pure Gear slim clear case, but the hard case packaging that it came in makes a great storage case for the dual screen when I'm not using it.
I personally love the feel of the phone in the hand being glass all around and not having a camera hump, but it's a slippery unit so a case is pretty necessary.
And the weight of 192 grams makes it feel like a premium device in the hand that could take some abuse (minus broken glass, but that's all phones nowadays).
I was on the fence about keeping the phone when I initially upgraded, and was contemplating returning it for an S10, but I figure the S10/S10+ are going to drop dramatically in price very shortly, whereas I think the G8X will hold it's value longer having the dual case option, and it being less expensive initially.
So far I'm having a good experience, but I may put up for sale or trade for an S10+ in the near future simply because I have zero clue if and when LG will be updating this thing to Android 10, never mind 11....
No way was I going to go for a newer Pixel with their abysmal battery life and no option for an SD card.
Also, anyone who tells me they can tell a difference between the 855/855+/865 I have a bridge to sell you...
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FYI you can turn on the second screen using the "knock on" or double tap feature.
Some of you that have issues with the screen turning on by itself could just be you accidentally double tapping that screen while handling the phone.
I was also able to find a case for it at The Source.
It's just a basic Pure Gear slim clear case, but the hard case packaging that it came in makes a great storage case for the dual screen when I'm not using it.
I personally love the feel of the phone in the hand being glass all around and not having a camera hump, but it's a slippery unit so a case is pretty necessary.
And the weight of 192 grams makes it feel like a premium device in the hand that could take some abuse (minus broken glass, but that's all phones nowadays).
I was on the fence about keeping the phone when I initially upgraded, and was contemplating returning it for an S10, but I figure the S10/S10+ are going to drop dramatically in price very shortly, whereas I think the G8X will hold it's value longer having the dual case option, and it being less expensive initially.
So far I'm having a good experience, but I may put up for sale or trade for an S10+ in the near future simply because I have zero clue if and when LG will be updating this thing to Android 10, never mind 11....
No way was I going to go for a newer Pixel with their abysmal battery life and no option for an SD card.
Also, anyone who tells me they can tell a difference between the 855/855+/865 I have a bridge to sell you...
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If you check kijiji, the G8X is selling for less than the S10 or S10+, too late to get rid of it now, you'll lose money. Even sadder is the s9 and S9+ are getting Android 10 updates while the G8x is still in wind. This is my last LG phone, I can't in good conscience support them, I don't think we the consumers are asking for much from a company that claims to produce "flagship" devices.
Like I said, the idea was a good one but everything else is sloppy not on par with a major flagship smartphone.
I wonder if LG is going to use Covid-19 as a excuse to continue delay of Android 10 update release for the G8X. I'm done with this company, they don't deserve our money.
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I was on the fence about keeping the phone when I initially upgraded, and was contemplating returning it for an S10, but I figure the S10/S10+ are going to drop dramatically in price very shortly, whereas I think the G8X will hold it's value longer having the dual case option, and it being less expensive initially.
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Without the 2nd screen, these are going for 200 USD on ebay, which is crazy for a 6 month old phone. I'm thinking about picking one up.
man this guy is a harsh critic. the phone is great. it's mid-range, so expect mid-range at a nice price point. but this thing has got several flagship features that set it it above other devices in this price range, obviously the dual screen, but also headphone jack + quad dac and surround sound, snapdragon 855, SD slot + 128gb built in, excellent cameras, insane battery life, sleek and quality design. I got it so cheap with Sprint (50% off plus free dual screen) that I can't imagine complaining about it, but maybe if you paid full price unlocked it would be different. great phone imo.

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