Can Motorola/Lenovo be trusted? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This may seem like a strange question but I've seen this reply on another thread here:
fablebreton said:
It's not only chinese companies like lenovo, but do you think chinese communist party is democratic ?
If it's currently admited that google work with NSA, don't you think Chinese autorities wouldn't like to use all these smartphone made in china and sold all around the world
If you don't trust MS as you said, it would be a little bit naive to trust chineses companies
But i'am afraid we have to live with it. when i see the download number of facebook on playstore i think most people don't care anymore about privacy , so why governments or big companies would care to not spy us.
Even on xda a lot of people continue to use supersu (closedsource and chinese owned) rather than magisk-phh opensource, most people simply don't care.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/174...lled-on-lenovo-huawei-and-xiaomi-smartphones/
https://eandt.theiet.org/content/ar...a-smartphones-spy-on-users-researchers-found/
lenovo laptops :
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/...use-of-lenovo-computers-over-chinese-spyware/
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/military-warns-chinese-computer-gear-poses-cyber-spy-threat/
http://thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html
And we don't talk about qualcomm "bug" that could be an usefull backdoor : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...million-android-devices-vulnerable-to-attack/
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That kind of got me worried. Can Motorola be trusted? Surely someone would have figured out by now that the stock ROM is stealing information without us knowing. Is this merely FUD?
Thanks! :silly:

most of the Chinese smartphone brands are trusted imo

lewrobert7331 said:
most of the Chinese smartphone brands are trusted imo
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I think so to. But Lenovo (and now Motorola) does have a worrisome history.

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[Q] 3th party markets

Since I've uploaded my App to the market, I receive emails about uploading my App to other markets too. For example this email I've received yesterday:
Hi ,
My name is *...*, from business department of Ndoo Networks. We are a company that operates 3rd party Android app market in China. We both realize China is a market of great potential, and there are already over 6,000,000 Android users in China. Now we are searching for the co-developers to make the Android market in China more brilliant.
We devote to bringing convenience and giving better service to our users. Till now we are generating a total of 5,000,000 downloads per month. The strengths we have now include:
--Diversified access to Phone, Web and desktop.
--App downloads 50% faster than Android Market.
--Value-added services to developers, including function test, security check etc.
--Operating an active user community including solutions for common issues using Android apps.
Meanwhile, the opportunities we see for you are:
--Expose your apps to millions of Android users.
--Expose your apps to many device makers in China who badly need excellent apps to get preinstalled.
--Ad-supported apps to generate income.
--Application proxy.
If you are interested to opt in our platform to distribute your apps, reply this email to authorize us the distribution rights. By default it is non-exclusive authorization.
Look forward to hearing from you.
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Cheers,
*...*
Shanghai Ndoo Network Technology Ltd.
Your Android,Simplified!
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Are there issues (read: legal issues) when you upload your app to other markets and / or is it smart to do. Because I get the feeling, just a feeling, that not all of these markets have the right intentions with the App provided by unknowing developers.
Are you upload your app to other markets too. If so, what website/markets do you upload your app.
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Obviously all different countries will have different app stores and be impossible to keep track of all of them. However obviously the well known ones are Amazon Appstore and Android market (duh). Outside of the US there are too many to count small and big. However, you can do a couple searches on the internet and see for yourself if it doesnt look shady and trustable enough.
Personally as a Korean I know for a fact that T-Store in korea is huge with dominating market share and since Korea's smart phone market is pretty big you could try getting your app uploaded there. However, I'm not too sure about how it works for foreigners but if you are interested just PM and I'll do my best to help out. I really like your app and I think its a brilliant idea. Cheers.
I received a similar email and all I can tell is stay away from them.
They are not a legit market. All piracy.
tyl3rdurden said:
Obviously all different countries will have different app stores and be impossible to keep track of all of them. However obviously the well known ones are Amazon Appstore and Android market (duh). Outside of the US there are too many to count small and big. However, you can do a couple searches on the internet and see for yourself if it doesnt look shady and trustable enough.
Personally as a Korean I know for a fact that T-Store in korea is huge with dominating market share and since Korea's smart phone market is pretty big you could try getting your app uploaded there. However, I'm not too sure about how it works for foreigners but if you are interested just PM and I'll do my best to help out. I really like your app and I think its a brilliant idea. Cheers.
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Thanks for your reply and compliment for my App. I'm definitly gonna look into the T-Store you're talking about.
I got the same email too, and found this thread by Googling a sentence from this email
All of my Apps are there, free & paid ones, without my approval.
It seems like piracy in China is a common practice, and I'm not sure what can be done against it.
Obg1 said:
It seems like piracy in China is a common practice, and I'm not sure what can be done against it.
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Seems? Come on! Let's all be honest here, we all know China is the number 1 in piracy, copying, not giving a f*ck about copyrights and so on. Whether is about fake iPhones, fake stores, mod chips, fake 2TB HDDs, fake apps, copied apps, fake everything and copied everything, etc. The world itself is there, either fake or copied. And there's nothing the rest of the world can do about it, since they don't have the copyright laws we have. If I were you, I wouldn't trust in giving my app to neither a Chinese nor a Sweden store (Sweden stores are a tad more controlled than Chinese stores, but still )
In my country, we call China "el rey de los plagios" (the king of copying/fakes/etc).
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DanielEGVi said:
Seems? Come on! Let's all be honest here, we all know China is the number 1 in piracy, copying, not giving a f*ck about copyrights and so on. Whether is about fake iPhones, fake stores, mod chips, fake 2TB HDDs, fake apps, copied apps, fake everything and copied everything, etc. The world itself is there, either fake or copied. And there's nothing the rest of the world can do about it, since they don't have the copyright laws we have. If I were you, I wouldn't trust in giving my app to neither a Chinese nor a Sweden store (Sweden stores are a tad more controlled than Chinese stores, but still )
In my country, we call China "el rey de los plagios" (the king of copying/fakes/etc).
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In your signature you say you use a hacked market.
I guess you are Chinese too?
JXB said:
In your signature you say you use a hacked market.
I guess you are Chinese too?
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Hacked market means it can download apps no matter what DPI are you using
You actually made me lol.
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Attention rom devs

Just posting a reminder that any rom posted here has to have the MI store removed from the rom. The app is banned as it provides warez.
You've effectively killed this forum, the only source of ROMs for our device. Thanks.
degrees089 said:
You've effectively killed this forum, the only source of ROMs for our device. Thanks.
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All it takes is having the app removed. Not really hard.
This app has been banned since the beginning of Xiaomi producing miui roms. It's nothing new.
zelendel said:
All it takes is having the app removed. Not really hard.
This app has been banned since the beginning of Xiaomi producing miui roms. It's nothing new.
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Well, if you say that this is so easy, please just give us direct instructions on how to remove this store without getting bootloop.
Go ahead.
domi.nos said:
Well, if you say that this is so easy, please just give us direct instructions on how to remove this store without getting bootloop.
Go ahead.
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There are Tuts on how to get gapps working.
I have never tried myself as these devices are banned from being own at my job so I'm not even allowed to get one. Nor would I ever.
Don't get mad at us. Get mad at them for excluding a warez market in their roms.
zelendel said:
Get mad at them for excluding a warez market in their roms.
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May be I do not know something.
I have tried to look for some warez there - I could not find anything.
anmg said:
May be I do not know something.
I have tried to look for some warez there - I could not find anything.
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Same. Some stupid policies and some stupid myths. Perhaps there used to be some sort of warez there accidentally and everyone is still being anal about it. As you can see mods don't really care about this phone. You can see by posts like "I would never get their devices". So childish
usblaidas said:
Same. Some stupid policies and some stupid myths. Perhaps there used to be some sort of warez there accidentally and everyone is still being anal about it. As you can see mods don't really care about this phone. You can see by posts like "I would never get their devices". So childish
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It's not a matter of childish. I have many reason why I would never own one of their devices and that being the fact that the oem is on my jobs banned list.
Also all you have to do is look at any of the so called. Free apps that are paid apps on the Android market.
Make no mistake it was not accidental at all. China is known for things like this.
As for the mods. We have been around long enough to know the story with them so, no none of use would ever touch one of their devices. But that is pointless as it's up to the users to do something with it.
Also all you have to do is look at any of the so called. Free apps that are paid apps on the Android market
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any proof please.
anmg said:
any proof please.
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You can look yourself. Just do a compare between the 2 stores. That was part of the reasons why miui roms were banned for the longest time.
You have to remember that MIUI started here on xda before Xiaomi bought them out.
Warez or not, MI Store sucks ass, but banning ROMs is pointless, MIUI forum is trash, I still don't know how it works, and some ROM's has backdoors and for example, they send paid SMS to vietnam, That sh!t costed me 50 bucks!!!
zelendel said:
It's not a matter of childish. I have many reason why I would never own one of their devices and that being the fact that the oem is on my jobs banned list.
Also all you have to do is look at any of the so called. Free apps that are paid apps on the Android market.
Make no mistake it was not accidental at all. China is known for things like this.
As for the mods. We have been around long enough to know the story with them so, no none of use would ever touch one of their devices. But that is pointless as it's up to the users to do something with it.
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hey, I'm curious about these stories that made you stay away from xiaomi devices. May I ask for more information or maybe links about that? Thank you.
khnoizer said:
hey, I'm curious about these stories that made you stay away from xiaomi devices. May I ask for more information or maybe links about that? Thank you.
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If you look around the internet you will find all the stories you need. They are alos on the military banned list in the US due to ties with the Chinese military.
zelendel said:
It's not a matter of childish. I have many reason why I would never own one of their devices and that being the fact that the oem is on my jobs banned list.
Also all you have to do is look at any of the so called. Free apps that are paid apps on the Android market.
Make no mistake it was not accidental at all. China is known for things like this.
As for the mods. We have been around long enough to know the story with them so, no none of use would ever touch one of their devices. But that is pointless as it's up to the users to do something with it.
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zelendel said:
If you look around the internet you will find all the stories you need. They are alos on the military banned list in the US due to ties with the Chinese military.
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Thank you, but I suppose if we use non MIUI rom such as cm, then these risk of using xiaomi devices is gone right? also, what do you think of Mokee Rom? As it's also made by chinese people, and you said that china is known for "something", is it might also poses similar risks?
khnoizer said:
Thank you, but I suppose if we use non MIUI rom such as cm, then these risk of using xiaomi devices is gone right? also, what do you think of Mokee Rom? As it's also made by chinese people, and you said that china is known for "something", is it might also poses similar risks?
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First let me make one thing very clear. I have nothing against Chinese people that make software. You have to understand the Government that runs the country there, to have a small understanding. You see In china they have the right to monitor everything their citizens are doing on the internet. This is part of the reason for the great firewall of china. So spyware, malware and other software that helps in this are normally sponsered by the Military to help in doing just this.
I have never used it myself but as it is an open source based OS it should be good. You can see just what it is doing. The hard part will be the coding translations, as things dont always translate right.
Any non MIUI based rom should be ok. The problem with that is CM is normally buggy and all the roms use the patch rom setup which is never really stable nor is it something I would trust as that is injecting stuff into a rom that I cant VET.
In this day and age one has to be careful with all these new toys that are coming to many markets across the world.
Remember, You get what you pay for. So if something is too good to be true then you have to find the catch.
zelendel said:
First let me make one thing very clear. I have nothing against Chinese people that make software. You have to understand the Government that runs the country there, to have a small understanding. You see In china they have the right to monitor everything their citizens are doing on the internet. This is part of the reason for the great firewall of china. So spyware, malware and other software that helps in this are normally sponsered by the Military to help in doing just this.
I have never used it myself but as it is an open source based OS it should be good. You can see just what it is doing. The hard part will be the coding translations, as things dont always translate right.
Any non MIUI based rom should be ok. The problem with that is CM is normally buggy and all the roms use the patch rom setup which is never really stable nor is it something I would trust as that is injecting stuff into a rom that I cant VET.
In this day and age one has to be careful with all these new toys that are coming to many markets across the world.
Remember, You get what you pay for. So if something is too good to be true then you have to find the catch.
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Great explanation, Thank you, sir.
Um, sorry.. may i know what's happen here and why miui store shouldn't be here?
zelendel said:
First let me make one thing very clear. I have nothing against Chinese people that make software. You have to understand the Government that runs the country there, to have a small understanding. You see In china they have the right to monitor everything their citizens are doing on the internet. [ ... ] .
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You are right about the store, i was quite surprised when i found paid apps there. This is correct.
But i'm not sure if this is still the case, i saw them a year ago, now i couldn't find the apps,
maybe they've cleaned the store in meantime.
And a script removing apps isn't hard, just search for "updater-script remove apps".
BUT i've tried such script on Sony Xperia P, not in MIUI, i don't know if deleting Mi Store (com.xiaomi.mipicks) would cause bootloop or not.
I know that Mi Store enabled/disabled is region dependent, you can disable it when switching to another region in Beta rom.
But deleting? I know that when i've deleted Updater apk, or changed its permissions, it caused bootloop. Needs to be confirmed.
But with government spying - if you want to be honest - maybe we should ban all ROMs tied with Google, which means all Androids?
Remember about PRISM and Edward Snowden?
American's NSA (National Security Agency) ?
I have nothing to American people, just sayin.
But according to former CIA employee, Edward Snowden, Google joined to the NSA spying program in 14 Jan 2009.
I think that you simply have a choice - either give your personal data to American or to Chinese people. (or both).
You can minimize the risk by disabling for ex. Analytics app... etc.
But saying that chinese are spying... USA govt does the same
And better not looking for Echelon project...
But - the main topic here - yes, it's a good idea to remove Mi Store from roms.
One can always add it himself/herself, there are also other stores, F-droid, Aptoid, there is a choice
American companies aren't communist nor are they guilty of some of the most sever human rights violations in the world.
khnoizer said:
hey, I'm curious about these stories that made you stay away from xiaomi devices. May I ask for more information or maybe links about that? Thank you.
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kocak juga doi.. ditanyak suru kasi bukti malah ngeyel muluk.. emang koplak kalik.. pdhal amrik sama parahnya.. huehuehue..

Trump bans Huawei in the US

An executive order has been signed by Trump banning Huawei in the US...
Also Qualcomm (QCOM) may have to apply for US export licenses to continue supplying technology to Huawei.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/15/tech/trump-executive-order-telecom-security/index.html
Why worry about Huawei when Google, facebook and the countries intelligence are already spying.
I think the problem lies with 5G, Huawei are trying the set up the infrastructure for 5G across Asia, Europe and the US amongst over areas. Which means that they'll have a back door to almost everything connected to 5G.
5G will connect to everything, even LED lights in your home which basically gives them a 3D view of every area 5G covers. Whoever has access to it will know where you are nearly all the time.
The timing makes it obvious the steps against Huawei is derivative of the US trade war with China rather than concerns over spying.
warea said:
The timing makes it obvious the steps against Huawei is derivative of the US trade war with China rather than concerns over spying.
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I wonder if it makes sense to care about that. Huawei prices are dropping and people try to sell there used phones. A good moment to buy something like that.
Am I totally wrong in thinking that Trump will probably not stop xda developers from developing updates for Huawei phones? If so I do not care about Huaweis updates or wether they include Gapps
But sadly XDA is not able to develop updates for Huawei beacause of locked bootloader etc, so what you are trying to say is......?
EnormoDerClown said:
But sadly XDA is not able to develop updates for Huawei beacause of locked bootloader etc, so what you are trying to say is......?
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I do not own a huawei phone (yet) and am still investigating about existing roms. Is there really no easy way to unlock bootloader for huawei devices in general? That would definitely stop me from buying huawei.
BTW: of you quote me I see your post faster
daniu said:
I do not own a huawei phone (yet) and am still investigating about existing roms. Is there really no easy way to unlock bootloader for huawei devices in general? That would definitely stop me from buying huawei.
BTW: of you quote me I see your post faster
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No there is no easy way, even no way at all at the moment.
I am quite relaxed at the moment, for existing phones there will still be support, future phones could be a HUGE problem. But to be honest, A LOT switch their phones after 2 years or even before, so most people will not be touched by this ban who are currently owning this awesome phone.
I don't think Huawei spies. Even if they did, are they the only big players who do it?
US already spies on their citizens and on the world - Edward Snowden told the world and now he's not allowed back into his country. Facebook also sells your data if you remember that Cambridge Analytica drama.
Do people just forget what's happened?
Agree, i am total sure that Apple has a file with my data and i didn´t even touched an apple device in my life
that doesn´t make spying good, but i also think huawei is not doing more/less than the rest
EnormoDerClown said:
No there is no easy way, even no way at all at the moment.
I am quite relaxed at the moment, for existing phones there will still be support, future phones could be a HUGE problem. But to be honest, A LOT switch their phones after 2 years or even before, so most people will not be touched by this ban who are currently owning this awesome phone.
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this is not my attitude towards phones. Mine is rather: use the device until warranty is over (or a bit earlier) then root and install a custom rom and use the phone until it is really dead. Unfortunately it seems like that did not take too long on my Asus Zenfone selfie ...
I also use phones quite long, but really a lot people get a new one every year or every two years by contract. The same people which are now selling their phones because of panic^^
if you plan on using custom rom/modification huawei is not suitable for you, it is just not possible. maybe the android ban will change something, but nobody can say that, you will have to wait to see what will happen.
Since no one else has said it on this thread let me be the first, Trump is an idiot, when he's gone the whole world will be better for it. He can't even honor D-day survivors without making it all about him, the ultimate draft dodger.

huawei Google license problems

Hi,
So because of getting into the Blacklist Google stopped there business with huawei.
Some websites say that huawei will not get anymore updates from Google some say they will still get updates and so on but only later than usual due to not getting it before the open source release.
So I'm confused now what does that mean for as consumers? Will we still get updates like to Android q or?
jizang said:
Hi,
So because of getting into the Blacklist Google stopped there business with huawei.
Some websites say that huawei will not get anymore updates from Google some say they will still get updates and so on but only later than usual due to not getting it before the open source release.
So I'm confused now what does that mean for as consumers? Will we still get updates like to Android q or?
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It means Huawei might be suspended from official support from development, tech support and collaboration from Google/Android work group directly. AOSP is still can be accessible to Huawei as an alternative, however, there's no set mandate regarding how frequently AOSP might be updated to Q. Any future updates can be much later than official source comparing with other factory names. It is likely but no set agenda.
It is very disappointing how US government uses all its possible resourcing pipeline in one nation trying to make an original 'open-sourced' platform now becoming a 'close-ended' product to kill a tech company. Very shameful action.
Boo hoo, Google and USA government. Can't take the capitalistic pressure no more I see. The very same capitalism that you pushed down their throats those years ago. Sore losers.
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https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-loses-access-to-google-android-987873/amp/
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https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-loses-access-to-google-android-987873/amp/
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Yeah the apps will work, but looks like we still won't get updates.....
Limeybastard said:
Boo hoo, Google and USA government. Can't take the capitalistic pressure no more I see. The very same capitalism that you pushed down their throats those years ago. Sore losers.
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But I don't think it's capitalistic for a company to have unfair advantage from the government. China is not playing a fair game and since pretty much every company in China is affiliated with the government, it's definitely not a captilistic system. Protecting their own companies and making it hard for foreign ones to compete is not captilistic. They kicked out Google, Facebook, Twitter and even Wikipedia which is as unfair an advantage as you can get for companies like Baidu and wechat. These home grown companies certainly would not be able to compete with the foreign ones without a boost from the government. Again that's not free market competition or capitalistic. They force foreign companies who spend hard cash on R&D to just hand over their intellectual property to Chinese companies. I'm sorry but that's not what capatilism is about. I like Huawei phones and until recently I had used quite a few of them so it's sad for me to see them hit hard like this. However, this move by the US government was long overdue and I support it (quite possibly the only policy of this government that I support). Next time somebody mentions that this is unfair, please do some research and see what is going on in China.
Guys there is already 3 threads speaking about it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7048323/Google-blocks-Huawei-using-apps-phones.html
seti007 said:
But I don't think it's capitalistic for a company to have unfair advantage from the government. China is not playing a fair game and since pretty much every company in China is affiliated with the government, it's definitely not a captilistic system. Protecting their own companies and making it hard for foreign ones to compete is not captilistic. They kicked out Google, Facebook, Twitter and even Wikipedia which is as unfair an advantage as you can get for companies like Baidu and wechat. These home grown companies certainly would not be able to compete with the foreign ones without a boost from the government. Again that's not free market competition or capitalistic. They force foreign companies who spend hard cash on R&D to just hand over their intellectual property to Chinese companies. I'm sorry but that's not what capatilism is about. I like Huawei phones and until recently I had used quite a few of them so it's sad for me to see them hit hard like this. However, this move by the US government was long overdue and I support it (quite possibly the only policy of this government that I support). Next time somebody mentions that this is unfair, please do some research and see what is going on in China.
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government influence???:good::good:???they keep saying chinese govt has influence, yet without prove....!!now which companies being influence/ties by govt??? us companies following trump orders??? and this is not influence??? so confuse here???
Funny...
Shipoftheline said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7048323/Google-blocks-Huawei-using-apps-phones.html
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Phew, now that I've seen it in the mail, I know it's not true - false alarm people
jizang said:
Hi,
So because of getting into the Blacklist Google stopped there business with huawei.
Some websites say that huawei will not get anymore updates from Google some say they will still get updates and so on but only later than usual due to not getting it before the open source release.
So I'm confused now what does that mean for as consumers? Will we still get updates like to Android q or?
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Hey
You heard correct that Google has blacklisted and terminated all business with Huawei.
For the current Huawei devices that are in stock or being used Google will provide there services but for the future Huawei phones there will be no Google. Currently Huawei has got its licence temporary unbanned for 90 days which means they will provide Google updates till August and after that you won't be able to get the next version of android through Huawei until you root your phone and push the update yourself.
Hope this helped
djingonthenet said:
Phew, now that I've seen it in the mail, I know it's not true - false alarm people
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Oh sorry I'll post a lefty source for the leftist
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/huawei-phones-bumped-ee-vodafone-16182814
That better comrade?
PS why do you guys always claim to speak for everyone??
Shipoftheline said:
Oh sorry I'll post a lefty source for the leftist
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/huawei-phones-bumped-ee-vodafone-16182814
That better comrade?
PS why do you guys always claim to speak for everyone??
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This is better...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/9128354/huawei-binned-from-ee-5g-lineup/
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seti007 said:
But I don't think it's capitalistic for a company to have unfair advantage from the government. China is not playing a fair game and since pretty much every company in China is affiliated with the government, it's definitely not a captilistic system. Protecting their own companies and making it hard for foreign ones to compete is not captilistic. They kicked out Google, Facebook, Twitter and even Wikipedia which is as unfair an advantage as you can get for companies like Baidu and wechat. These home grown companies certainly would not be able to compete with the foreign ones without a boost from the government. Again that's not free market competition or capitalistic. They force foreign companies who spend hard cash on R&D to just hand over their intellectual property to Chinese companies. I'm sorry but that's not what capatilism is about. I like Huawei phones and until recently I had used quite a few of them so it's sad for me to see them hit hard like this. However, this move by the US government was long overdue and I support it (quite possibly the only policy of this government that I support). Next time somebody mentions that this is unfair, please do some research and see what is going on in China.
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But it doesn't affect outside users if china bans fb, or does it?
Hopefully this means Huawei will start giving out Bootloader codes again.
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Oh sorry I'll post a lefty source for the leftist
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/huawei-phones-bumped-ee-vodafone-16182814
That better comrade?
PS why do you guys always claim to speak for everyone??
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I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, but the mail champions the same brand of politics as the administration the invoked this ridiculous campaign against Huawei, i.e. the far right
djingonthenet said:
I'm not speaking for anyone but myself
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Oh my bad I must have read it wrong, oh wait no
djingonthenet said:
false alarm people
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djingonthenet said:
but the mail champions the same brand of politics as the administration the invoked this ridiculous campaign against Huawei, i.e. the far right
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Its the worlds most read online newspaper whether people like you like it or not and they were spot on again about this, do you need some tissues?
Better 'far-right' than far-wrong
Huawei in talks with Aptoide for a Play store replacement.
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_rep...lacement_for_google_play_store-news-37174.php
Shipoftheline said:
Its the worlds most read online newspaper whether people like you like it or not and they were spot on again about this, do you need some tissues?
Better 'far-right' than far-wrong
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I do hope you can see the irony of that statement :laugh: Either way take care :good:

The Problem with Chinese Phones (Even just made there)

You surely have heard the awesomely cheap prices of the Huawei phones, Xiaomi, and other chinese brands. And you'd be wise with your money to invest for a Chinese smartphone, but there's a catch, every American company makes their cellphones in China as well.
Apple as a notable example of this. Where the people working at their factories in FOXCONN have a reputation for killing themselves. Why? Excessive loads of work and a poor working ambient.
But this post goes even further than criticizing the treatment of employees in the PRC, but the bad treatment of their citizens in general, China is a repressive authoritarian state where people are not allowed to say think or act in ways contrary to the government and if the government thinks you're a threat then rest assured it'll make your life a living hell.
How does Chinese authoritarianism affects your user experience as a consumer?
Very simple, yet dark.
Chinese companies syphon all the info they can possibly gather about you, even Nokia was found to send data to the Chinese government.
It is a threat to your security and a support to the current oppressive regime in China to buy their cellphones.
So what's my recommendation? Buy phones made in India, Vietnam or South Korea. Samsung is a good example and is why I bought my phone from them, mine was made in Vietnam and I'm happy with it. Except that I have a not so popular model and I have to be active in the dev community to push it forward. But that has its own beauty!
With this I close the Post and I wish every reader a good day.
There are some companies that send data to governments, they use operating systems such as HydrogenOS as far as I know. I don't know much about these things but I can assure you this thing is very dangerous and can lead to uncountable threats in the future
Null909 said:
There are some companies that send data to governments, they use operating systems such as HydrogenOS as far as I know. I don't know much about these things but I can assure you this thing is very dangerous and can lead to uncountable threats in the future
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I know right? The worst thing is that the common consumer doesn't care about it. So they'll buy a phone from the shadiest cheapest company you could possibly imagine and won't even try to install a custom rom.
A phone, which is a conglomerate of plastic, glass, metal and other solid components, cannot spy, whether it has been produced in china or elsewhere: if someone is spying, it is the apps that are installed, the rights that are granted.
It is the user who enables espionage and not a chinese or other resident manufacturer. See also here
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I know right? The worst thing is that the common consumer doesn't care about it. So they'll buy a phone from the shadiest cheapest company you could possibly imagine and won't even try to install a custom rom.
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Yes, that's right, but it's not necessary for the phone itself to be spying, maybe it's the system that plays the spy. Like China's Hydrogen firmwares, this thing is like trying to find a needle in a haystack for users, i.e. they don't think about such things in general as it poses a danger to the user. I don't know much about this thing but I recently read about cases revealed by phones, the internet is a big and dangerous world and used as a means of gathering information in various subjects، and don't forget that a lot of people have been investigated just because they searched for certain topics on the internet i.e. countries are watching literally everything.
do you have any proof that e.g. Huawei is spying on people John Doe? you don’t, because there isn’t any, there isn’t any evidence of intention, there is nothing there, just smoke and mirrors. even a mr. Trump could not present any evidence.
i hope we are not so ignorant as to be swayed by such poor writing as OP did.
remember that as soon as you switch on an Android device, where it doesn't matter whether you registered it with Google or not, Google starts spying on you. wondering why always chinese manufactures are said to be the culprits?
@Sotiras
while we can understand and accept the freedom of speaking about our devices on a dedicated forum like XDA, the exacerbation of the topic beyond the forum rules and the lack common sense is not tolerated.
such remarks as below
But this post goes even further than criticizing the treatment of employees in the PRC, but the bad treatment of their citizens in general, China is a repressive authoritarian state where people are not allowed to say think or act in ways contrary to the government and if the government thinks you're a threat then rest assured it'll make your life a living hell.
How does Chinese authoritarianism affects your user experience as a consumer?
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is totally inappropriate and have never had a place on XDA for a simple reason:
2. Member conduct.
2.4 Personal attacks, racial, political and / or religious discussions: XDA is a discussion forum about certain mobile phones. Mobile phones are not racial, political, religious or personally offensive and therefore, none of these types of discussions are permitted on XDA.
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as simple as that, just imagine you`re talking to your best friend that has just purchased a Chinese or other branded phone; are you going to talk about that country`s politics or about the device itself? I bet you`d just say, "ok bud, enjoy your phone although I`m not such a fan because ... takes worse pictures ..." and nicely move on for a beer and continue talking about girls. But somehow here on XDA you feel like, behind a keyboard, expanding your thoughts further to political aspects well no, we do not host here such topics.
please keep this in mind and next time try to be device centred rather than political.
thanks for understanding!
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