Huawei did it again and came with a brand new high end device in 2017, this time it's the Huawei P10. So what is your thoughts about this phone? Feel free to discuss anything on this thread ( battery life, experience, help if you need it and more), have a nice day all :good:
I think I'm going to buy the P10 - I've previously owned a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge but found it too big - the P10 Plus is even bigger. Shame, as I'd like the enhanced camera and better screen. The P10 does look pretty nice though and the camera should be excellent. I wonder what colours we'll get here in the UK?
scgf said:
I think I'm going to buy the P10 - I've previously owned a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge but found it too big - the P10 Plus is even bigger. Shame, as I'd like the enhanced camera and better screen. The P10 does look pretty nice though and the camera should be excellent. I wonder what colours we'll get here in the UK?
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I found this link for you check it out: http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2017/02/huawei-p10-vs-p10-plus-which-one-should-uk-folks-go-for/
Thanks Soufianski. At the moment I'm more interested in the smaller P10, but who knows! Hopefully I can see them in the flesh and make a decision. The only negative of the Plus for me is the size.
scgf said:
Thanks Soufianski. At the moment I'm more interested in the smaller P10, but who knows! Hopefully I can see them in the flesh and make a decision. The only negative of the Plus for me is the size.
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Good luck!
Does anyone have a link to the new software update B112? I see that it is already out.
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Nevermind. Just got it.
Firmware
ch1lko said:
Does anyone have a link to the new software update B112? I see that it is already out.
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Nevermind. Just got it.
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Do you have the phone and got the update or found it elsewere? i'd like to see the software if its available for download.
Got it last night. No idea what has changed as the description was very vague. Only 250MB or so.
At the launch we were told our models had pre-release software and some portrait functions in the camera were coming soon, but I can't remember exactly what.
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Got it last night. No idea what has changed as the description was very vague. Only 250MB or so.
At the launch we were told our models had pre-release software and some portrait functions in the camera were coming soon, but I can't remember exactly what.
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Maybe small fixes and improvements,security patch..etc
Could someone please upload it for download? Having trouble finding it elsewhere..
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Do you have the phone and got the update or found it elsewere? i'd like to see the software if its available for download.
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it was OTA later that day
I know it's early days, but I am finding the battery life on the P10 to be far better than the Mate 9. The Mate 9 obviously has the bigger display, but with such a big difference in battery you might still assume it would have the edge.
I did a phone clone so everything on the Mate 9 carried over, so they're both effectively running the same stuff. However, I'm using the P10 more than the Mate 9 which is often in standby.... so it becomes even more odd.
I will have to do some proper tests, but irrespective of the comparison aspect, I think the P10 battery life is exceptional. The Mate 9 is great too, but this is something else!
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I know it's early days, but I am finding the battery life on the P10 to be far better than the Mate 9. The Mate 9 obviously has the bigger display, but with such a big difference in battery you might still assume it would have the edge.
I did a phone clone so everything on the Mate 9 carried over, so they're both effectively running the same stuff. However, I'm using the P10 more than the Mate 9 which is often in standby.... so it becomes even more odd.
I will have to do some proper tests, but irrespective of the comparison aspect, I think the P10 battery life is exceptional. The Mate 9 is great too, but this is something else!
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You can share some battery stats later here if you like :good:
What do you think about this article : "
That's because there's no oleophobic coating on the actual display of the P10 — at least on the review devices we were given in Barcelona last week. An oleophobic coating may sound obscure and technical, but it's a staple feature of all but the cheapest smartphone screens. This nanocoating, usually applied to the glass during manufacturing, repels oils — like the kind on your face and fingers — and stops the display from looking like it's been used as a pizza slice after you've been tapping, swiping and calling. "
Is the phone a finger print and smudges magnet?
jonmorris said:
I know it's early days, but I am finding the battery life on the P10 to be far better than the Mate 9. The Mate 9 obviously has the bigger display, but with such a big difference in battery you might still assume it would have the edge.
I did a phone clone so everything on the Mate 9 carried over, so they're both effectively running the same stuff. However, I'm using the P10 more than the Mate 9 which is often in standby.... so it becomes even more odd.
I will have to do some proper tests, but irrespective of the comparison aspect, I think the P10 battery life is exceptional. The Mate 9 is great too, but this is something else!
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You already have the P10? Where in the world are you? :laugh: I'm still waiting here. How about the standby time? I've read two reviews already that have complaints regarding huge battery drain. Namely from Recombu and Trustedreviews.
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You already have the P10? Where in the world are you? [emoji23] I'm still waiting here. How about the standby time? I've read two reviews already that have complaints regarding huge battery drain. Namely from Recombu and Trustedreviews.
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UK. Got mine at the same event as Recombu and Trusted. My review is pending still.
I'm finding the battery excellent, with Doze working fine (some say it doesn't). I did install AnTuTu to benchmark the phone and that seemed to keep running (never seen that before) and caused problems, so I removed it.
I wonder if they've downloaded that?
As I said before, I did a phone clone from my Mate 9, which has a nice setup of apps that are kept running and closed. So perhaps I've tweaked my P10 a lot more than others.
I've even got so used to the new fingerprint sensor that using my Mate 9 (or indeed any phone) now feels odd. Took just one week to master it!
I hope to have my in depth review done any day now. Need to take more photos and will be in London all day tomorrow with the P10, P9 and Mate 9 for comparisons.
Can you share the link of the stored firmware?
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UK. Got mine at the same event as Recombu and Trusted. My review is pending still.
I'm finding the battery excellent, with Doze working fine (some say it doesn't). I did install AnTuTu to benchmark the phone and that seemed to keep running (never seen that before) and caused problems, so I removed it.
I wonder if they've downloaded that?
As I said before, I did a phone clone from my Mate 9, which has a nice setup of apps that are kept running and closed. So perhaps I've tweaked my P10 a lot more than others.
I've even got so used to the new fingerprint sensor that using my Mate 9 (or indeed any phone) now feels odd. Took just one week to master it!
I hope to have my in depth review done any day now. Need to take more photos and will be in London all day tomorrow with the P10, P9 and Mate 9 for comparisons.
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I think they did use Antutu. I saw one reviewer showing his battery stats and Antutu was at the top. So i guess That was the one causing the problem.
Yeah, i was thinking that maybe they just had a rogue app causing the drain since everybody uses their phones differently. Because, for me, 20% drain overnight is too much just because Doze didn't work.
I was also a little bummed that they moved the fingerprint sensor to the front but it's not really a big deal.
I eagerly await for your review!
Why should I choose a P10 ? G6 is water resistant, has a bigger screen and makes better photos ?
rotsloeh said:
I think they did use Antutu. I saw one reviewer showing his battery stats and Antutu was at the top. So i guess That was the one causing the problem.
Yeah, i was thinking that maybe they just had a rogue app causing the drain since everybody uses their phones differently. Because, for me, 20% drain overnight is too much just because Doze didn't work.
I was also a little bummed that they moved the fingerprint sensor to the front but it's not really a big deal.
I eagerly await for your review!
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I have managed in under a week to get really used to the new fingerprint sensor. I always said I preferred it on the back, and this is the only phone I own that has it at the front - but it's VERY easy to get used to. I am sure you would too.
It's ironic that Samsung is moving its fingerprint reader to the back, and who knows what Apple will do.
AnTuTu was causing real problems, and brings up the warning about excessive drain. It shouldn't be doing anything when not running, but it seems to run itself. I wonder if there's something dodgy going on there (always rumours about AnTuTu taking bribes to boost scores). I hope not!
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DerD4nnY said:
Why should I choose a P10 ? G6 is water resistant, has a bigger screen and makes better photos ?
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I can't answer that. I really liked the G6 at MWC. Awesome display and feels nice in the hand (not too thick) but I'm not hearing great things about the battery on that, although the reviewers have pre-release models (like the P10) and there was an update yesterday. Too late for some reviewers who already gave their phones back.
Hopefully I'll get a final release model and can compare. I've always liked the camera on the LG's since the G4. The G5 camera was great, but I hated the phone. The G4 had HORRIBLE battery life. The G6 may well be the phone that turns things around for LG, or it may not (for example, LG are pathetic at spending money on marketing). Huawei on the other hand seems to have a bottomless pit of money right now.
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Honor 8 Pro, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Honor 8 Pro is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The only slight icky thing on this phone is battery life which could have been better definitely. Heating is another slightly icky issue. Otherwise, there is no zone on this phone which can disappoint you!
The honor 8 Pro has it's own quirks and sub-optimal menus. But overall, it's still good!
Honor is a pretty underrated companies functioning out there, with their Kirin Processor they basically blow Mediatek and Snapdragon out of the water and their cameras, I remember them to be the first to implement RGB+Monochrome sensors in their phone and the display just to dope, there phones need more attention!
I love this one. Planning in buying one too.
I really love my phone, I am feeling good .
My relative got this, loved it.
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My relative got this, loved it.
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really a competitor to OP5 in less price. With EMUI 5.1 and most probably an O update in future, this is really awesome.
Camera, Battery, smoothness, RAM management is pretty good and no comparison to camera for sure.
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Overall a full pack device
Completely in love with the device and for the first time, I am perfectly happy with my phone.
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Great device no doubt
K.khiladi said:
Completely in love with the device and for the first time, I am perfectly happy with my phone.
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Happy users
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Happy users
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Yup never been so happy with a device. [emoji6]
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It's been a while since I've been this happy overall with a phone. It just look and feels great. Only thing that is a let down for me is the sound in headphones which lacks depth.
device is amazingly fast..love this device
I'm now in love with this device.
Honor 8 Pro review, after 40 days of use.
I have used 2 phones over the past 4 years, the iconic Samsung Note 2, and Redmi Note 3. A year into its life cycle, the redmi had started showing its age. It was time for a change.
• OP5 Comparison
o The 2 phones that came to mind were One Plus 5 and Honor 8 Pro. I was very confused between the two and took a long time researching. Following tipped the scales in favor of H8P:
Grammar Nazi – I am a self-acknowledged grammar Nazi. Spelling and grammatical errors bother me. The OP5 website contains a glaring grammatical error. I even tweeted them about it, but it never changed. This may not be applicable to others, but this troubles me. It is also an indicator of attention to detail.
https://twitter.com/BalwantPadaki/status/888992936406376448
Jelly scrolling effect – This is a big one. And it is there on EVERY OP5. Some notice, some don’t. Some are bothered by it, some are not. I used my friends OP5 for a bit, and I saw that the Jello gets in the way every time one interacts with the phone. Very irritating.
Ethics:
• Data Privacy – A cell phone contains a lot of personal information. I would rather trust a big trusted conglomerate over a start up. Sure enough, just after I bought it, this report came out: Oxygen OS is sourcing personally identifiable information.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...nally-identifiable-information-for-analytics/
• Benchmark cheating : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/op5-benchmark-cheating-t3624651
The above factors meant that OP5, and any future OP phones, were ‘no-go’ for me.
• Pre-purchase concerns about H8P:
o Heating Concerns: If there was one concern about the H8P that I had it was this! Almost everyone said that there was a heating issue with the phone.
Once I got the phone (early Oct’17), I got an alert for the B150 software update. This came within 15 minutes of the phone setup. This was the update that was supposed to fix the heating issue.
And it did! In 40 days I have not experienced over-heating even once. No exaggeration. Even extended camera use was handled with aplomb!
This one turned out extraordinarily well.
o Software Update Speed: This concern is still valid. However, Honor has been very keen in developing a dedicated community. The discussions on Honor meets have helped ease most of my concerns.
o Software : EMUI 5.1 is a gem of a software. I have found vanilla android to be very boring, and would opt for a skinned android any day. EMUI was never really a concern for me, it seems like a concern for a lot of people.
• Pros : Most other reviews have covered this. Hence I will not waste much space on this. Same old pros: Butter smooth performance, great screen, good battery & charging speed, OUTSTANDING camera, 128 GB Storage !
• Cons :
o Screen is highly reflexive. It is a bit tough to read/watch videos under direct sunlight;
o A big CON is the non-availability of accessories from the local markets. Doesn’t sound like a big deal, but it is. It is impossible to get phone covers/screen protectors locally. Honor doesn’t make it easy by providing options in this regard. I have struggled to buy a screen guard, and have not had any luck in that regard;
o This is a big phone. Those uncomfortable with this should stay away. It is leaner and lighter than the Iphone 7+ though;
o Knuckle gestures are very irritating. Wish they be replaced by something that doesn’t involve punching a brand new phone!
• Improvement Suggestions for H9P:
o Please find space for a stylus… Given one, this phone will blow the Note series out of water!
• X factor : Got this baby for a 4K discount!
All in all, a great device. If heating issue is what bothers you, buy it with a peace of mind.
baz_303 said:
I have used 2 phones over the past 4 years, the iconic Samsung Note 2, and Redmi Note 3. A year into its life cycle, the redmi had started showing its age. It was time for a change.
•OP5 Comparison
oThe 2 phones that came to mind were One Plus 5 and Honor 8 Pro. I was very confused between the two and took a long time researching. Following tipped the scales in favor of H8P:
Grammar Nazi – I am a self-acknowledged grammar Nazi. Spelling and grammatical errors bother me. The OP5 website contains a glaring grammatical error. I even tweeted them about it, but it never changed. This may not be applicable to others, but this troubles me. It is also an indicator of attention to detail.
https://twitter.com/BalwantPadaki/status/888992936406376448
Jelly scrolling effect – This is a big one. And it is there on EVERY OP5. Some notice, some don’t. Some are bothered by it, some are not. I used my friends OP5 for a bit, and I saw that the Jello gets in the way every time one interacts with the phone. Very irritating.
Ethics:
•Data Privacy – A cell phone contains a lot of personal information. I would rather trust a big trusted conglomerate over a start up. Sure enough, just after I bought it, this report came out: Oxygen OS is sourcing personally identifiable information.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...nally-identifiable-information-for-analytics/
•Benchmark cheating : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/op5-benchmark-cheating-t3624651
The above factors meant that OP5, and any future OP phones, were ‘no-go’ for me.
•Pre-purchase concerns about H8P:
oHeating Concerns: If there was one concern about the H8P that I had it was this! Almost everyone said that there was a heating issue with the phone.
Once I got the phone (early Oct’17), I got an alert for the B150 software update. This came within 15 minutes of the phone setup. This was the update that was supposed to fix the heating issue.
And it did! In 40 days I have not experienced over-heating even once. No exaggeration. Even extended camera use was handled with aplomb!
This one turned out extraordinarily well.
oSoftware Update Speed: This concern is still valid. However, Honor has been very keen in developing a dedicated community. The discussions on Honor meets have helped ease most of my concerns.
oSoftware : EMUI 5.1 is a gem of a software. I have found vanilla android to be very boring, and would opt for a skinned android any day. EMUI was never really a concern for me, it seems like a concern for a lot of people.
•Pros : Most other reviews have covered this. Hence I will not waste much space on this. Same old pros: Butter smooth performance, great screen, good battery & charging speed, OUTSTANDING camera, 128 GB Storage !
•Cons :
oScreen is highly reflexive. It is a bit tough to read/watch videos under direct sunlight;
oA big CON is the non-availability of accessories from the local markets. Doesn’t sound like a big deal, but it is. It is impossible to get phone covers/screen protectors locally. Honor doesn’t make it easy by providing options in this regard. I have struggled to buy a screen guard, and have not had any luck in that regard;
oThis is a big phone. Those uncomfortable with this should stay away. It is leaner and lighter than the Iphone 7+ though;
oKnuckle gestures are very irritating. Wish they be replaced by something that doesn’t involve punching a brand new phone!
•Improvement Suggestions for H9P:
oPlease find space for a stylus… Given one, this phone will blow the Note series out of water!
•X factor : Got this baby for a 4K discount!
All in all, a great device. If heating issue is what bothers you, buy it with a peace of mind.
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I don't think any screen guard will apply on it because of the 2.5D curved glass on front.
Also, rest assured. Oreo will come within a month or two.
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Ordered mine by exchanging op3 in India.
Looking for great experience
After half a year or so(or longer? Lol) I must say that this phone has been working perfectly and I've been more than happy with it. Screen quality, responsiveness (both hardware and software) and battery life among the best under 500€ ever.
Just hope Honor keeps up the updates, if so then this phone will easily be up there with in my top 3 best phones ever, right after the legendary 3310 and Sony Z2 (no heating issues here).
Hey,
After an upgrade of my HTC U11+. A bit stuck to be honest on which one to go with as they all have big pluses and minuses. I think my ideal phone would be the mate 20 pro hardware with pixel software.
Will give my pro's and minuses below, please feel free to comment and advise as you see fit.
Mate 20 pro
++ Big battery
+ Not bad price wise (especially with the free watch)
+ cameras
+ nice colours
- Lack of updates??
Pixel 3 XL
++ best software
+ great camera
+ great update support
+ great speakers
-- average battery life
-expensive
Oneplus 6T (based on rumours
+price
+Smooth UI
+good support
- camera probably wont be as good as the other 2
-speakers wont be as good
+/- battery in the middle
Out of these three I'd definitely go with the Mate 20 Pro. the Pixel is boring and too ugly and no features at all (I wouldn't consider it at all unless I absolutely need their camera) , OP6 is just cheap price but is missing wireless charging, QHD display, IP68, stereo speakers, camera will be just average, AOD display, desktop mode, raise to wake, knuckle gestures, secure face unlock, etc. But if you don't care about those, the OP6 will be faster/smoother than Mate 20 pro and maybe their underdisplay implementation could be a little bit faster but we'll see
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
tsoureki said:
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
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I'm really hopeful that we'll at least get root...... I've preordered the Mate 20 Pro and will be selling my Pixel 2 xl, hope I don't live to regret it! Worst case scenario I'll sell it and switch...
Well Pixel XL 3 is trash. I returned mine after 2 days.
Oneplus 6T is a bang for buck type of phone
Mate 20 Pro I'm having issues getting one imported
Probably didn't help much but aye.
Goronok said:
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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I think you hit the nail on the head regarding honeymoon period. I had (2) P20 Pro's and I loved the hardware/camera, but quickly became annoyed with the fact that EMUI just doesn't "work" as an android phone should. After using MIUI 10 on a Mix 2s for a few weeks, I would say that Xiaomi's derivative feels more natural to use. /sad
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*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Had someone on Reddit confirm that the lockscreen is still the same. Some have said it is a bug, but seems working as intended to me. (Been a "bug" since EMUI 8.1)
I haven't inquired about backgrounding issues. Not much point. This has been a thing with EMUI since day 1. (And other China OEMs too)
Thanks for the replies very helpful. I know the mate 20 pro is the best out of the bunch its whether i can live with EMUI. I had this in the past with samsung s6 edge, loved the phone but hated the software and ended up getting rid of it very quickly. I think if the pixel was £100 cheaper or had a bigger battery i would 100% go with that for the software experience.
The decision would be so much easier if they allowed bootloader unlock and custom roms would solve half the issues! Still no closer to the decision.
A couple of extra points
Mate 20 curved screen will be a pain for glass screen protectors so thats a -
Still cant work out if the UK model is single sim or dual sim! (says its micro sd expandable so is that where the extra sim goes)
I think the camera will be just as good as the pixel...in some ways better because of the wide angle lens etc. The pixel 3 probably will be the best point and shoot but I don't think either will dissapoint you
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
Phil750123 said:
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
misiokicio said:
Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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See i went with sim free but what got me here is 50 quid more for mate, and free watch and charger is 250, so basically mate is working out 200 quid cheaper and 6gb ram vs the 4 and this massive battey, when pixie 3 battery is sitting at 3400 compared to my pixel 2 xl 3500 with a smaller screen? Impulse buy but hey, if we somehow hate it, or cant get used to it... Swap or sell after few months right? It aint a new car xd
It's very easy : get the pixel 3 and then youll want to get the mate 20 Pro for sure!
Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Pretty excited about this as well, I'm pretty sure I will still average about 6000 mah a day, I almost always charge from like 50 to 90% using wireless charging while at work but for the days I forgot to wireless charge, the fact that even if I get home with less than 5% and just plugging it in for like 15 minutes (instead of like 40 minutes like my note 9) and being back to like 40% to finish the day is amazing.
I agree
Now you've had the Mate 20 Pro for a while, taking into account the camera, battery and overall experience. Would you recommend this phone to friends and would you buy the phone again yourself?
At this point I haven't had any negative experience...I'm more frustrated with the decisions that Google made in Android Pie than anything related to the phone itself.
So yeah, I have recommended it to friends.
No. I really don't enjoy using EMUI.
I think it's an excellent phone but just the fact that I live in the USA where the M20P has no warranty or support makes it difficult to recommend. EMUI also will turn off certain people and the aggressive battery management is kind of a love it or hate it thing. I would buy this phone again but recommending it to a friend is another matter.
Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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I think it's an excellent phone but just the fact that I live in the USA where the M20P has no warranty or support makes it difficult to recommend. EMUI also will turn off certain people and the aggressive battery management is kind of a love it or hate it thing. I would buy this phone again but recommending it to a friend is another matter.
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Where did you buy yours from in the US?
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Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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I'm wondering if memory management is a phone issue or an android pie issue. I have seen others complaining about this with other phone brands.
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I'm exactly in this boat. After my 3rd defective device I opted for a refund.
Today I looked at the Google pixel 3xl and the 1+6T the oxygen os is great far nicer than EMUI. But for some reason I kept getting drawn back to the Mate 20 Pro. The camera and battery life are something else.
Man I'm torn.
i love my mate 20 pro it is a great phone. there seems to be a whole lot of negativity about it on here but i have had no problems even with the dreaded lg screen lol. yes i would buy it again.
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I'm exactly in this boat. After my 3rd defective device I opted for a refund.
Today I looked at the Google pixel 3xl and the 1+6T the oxygen os is great far nicer than EMUI. But for some reason I kept getting drawn back to the Mate 20 Pro. The camera and battery life are something else.
Man I'm torn.
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why not give it another try? my concern is how long huawei will support the device for. They have no official time frame for firmware and security updates. At least you have 3 years with a pixel.
Yeah looking forward on mate 30. Like the others that never had any single issue.. This phone is great in any aspect of everyday usage. Might buy another mate but let see how huawei would stand after the nonsense banning of their other services
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I bought mine off eBay. If I had to do it again I'd use wonda mobile. They'll actually check if it's a boe panel for you before they ship and they handle warranty. You'd have to ship to China but that's better than ZERO support from even the best eBay sellers. Huawei doesn't do international service so your sol here in the US.
Amazing phone.
I have had great experience! Nice battery life is the best perk no use in having the hardware to do things if the battery won't last! Also have a second one I bought for the wife and she's an iPhone user and didn't like it. If anyone is interested send me a personal message
I know for sure, I would buy it again, it has given me a great service
My only nitpick with this device is the gesture control, so I'm back to 3 button mode. The native Pie gestures work brilliantly, I don't get why Huawei broke it. That's not a deal breaker for me. It's the best phone I've ever used, better than the pixel or note. I'm unashamedly a huge fan of pure Google Android/ asop and use Nokia 7 plus as my second phone, but nothing comes close to my experience with the Mate 20 pro.
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Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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You can change that in the battery settings for running apps. Just let the big apps run in the background like games and they won't close. It's all about choice.
All my apps stay open all the time unless i've bloced them.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again, but I would recommend it.
The note 9 is the same as the mate, except with less battery life, slower charging, worse camera, and same aggressive app management unless you tweak it yourself.
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why would you not buy Huawei again?
No.
Because of green tint, emui, how notifications are handled, and lack of customization options.
I've been on Samsungs since the S2, so this was quite a change for me, so at first I didn't like the general UI side of things (especially the AOD compared to Samsung's is pretty basic), but I have to say its grown on me.
Speed/fluidity etc on the hardware wide of things are excellent
Fingerprint detection can be random at best, but I'm amazed at the speed and reliability of the face recognition, especially when its dark
Also amazed at the battery life
Shame there's no SD slot. Would be much easier to just take all my music etc from my S7 if it had one. No problem as internal storage isn't an issue, but I'd have preferred an SD slot all the same.
Biggest gripe for me is the notch, or should I say the lack of statusbar icon space.... If you set to "hide" the notch, I would rather there be an option to drop the icons down a line so that a full row of statusbar icons can be seen (I'd rather lose 4-5mm of the screen and gain a full statusbar)
Notch aside, yes, I would definitely recommend, but now I've finally made the plunge and broken away from Samsung after all these years, I think I'd probably go for whatever the current OnePlus offering is in 2 years time to see what thats like!
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You can change that in the battery settings for running apps. Just let the big apps run in the background like games and they won't close. It's all about choice.
All my apps stay open all the time unless i've bloced them.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again, but I would recommend it.
The note 9 is the same as the mate, except with less battery life, slower charging, worse camera, and same aggressive app management unless you tweak it yourself.
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I've already changed those settings and they've made little difference. Perhaps I need to wipe it and start again (but to be fair, all I've really done is install nova and some Google apps).
Let me start by saying that I am not attacking his character or calling him clueless in general, but he is obviously amateur to when it comes to using Huawei's phones.
I always thought the results he gets from his P30 Pro are way off when compared to the results other reviewers get from their phones, or from the ones I get from my P30 Pro. They're always overly saturated with tons of contrast. And I never understood the reason until I watched his OP 7 Pro vs S10+ vs P30 Pro camera comparison. And as someone who had the S10+ before this phone, and with my wife still owning her S10+, I know that 8/10 times, the S10 will give you the more saturated picture, which isn't the case with Mrwhosetheboss. Then I finally found out why is this the case with his phone, as it turned out that he is using the Smooth Colors option because he thinks, and I believe based on the name of the mode, it generates less saturation while using this mode. He mentioned this twice in his review, so it's obvious he uses this mode all the time, thus why the P30 Pro in this test lost miserably to the S10 and OP 7 Pro, as the P30 Pro pictures were coming out extremely cartoonish with crushed details in the shadows as if you're using a vignette filter all over your pictures.
I believe that while Huawei are taking these so called professional reviewers on cruise trips all over Europe, they also should educate them on how to use their phones so that they won't spread misinformation to the masses without them realizing that they're doing that.
I apologize for the longass rant, and for my average English.
Finally someone will write something about this person. His tests are absolutely incorrect, I blocked him and I no longer look at his reviews
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Finally someone will write something about this person. His tests are absolutely incorrect, I blocked him and I no longer look at his reviews
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Maybe he got some extra money to judge like that..
All these paid reviews are actually not worth watching. Find those smaller youtubers who buy the device for themselves and test it.
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All these paid reviews are actually not worth watching. Find those smaller youtubers who buy the device for themselves and test it.
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It's a double edged sword. People who purchase a certain phone (usually because they are interested in it) can also often be huge fanboys of a brand/product, saying crap to validate their purchase, ie. "this $800 phone I just purchased is great, otherwise I'd look like a total idiot!"
That and the fact that they usually don't have the option to compare with so many phones since they have to pay for them.
But there are youtubers where you can easily spot the fact that it's a paid review in some way. Money weighs more than integrity for most people.
Of course
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It's a double edged sword. People who purchase a certain phone (usually because they are interested in it) can also often be huge fanboys of a brand/product, saying crap to validate their purchase, ie. "this $800 phone I just purchased is great, otherwise I'd look like a total idiot!"
That and the fact that they usually don't have the option to compare with so many phones since they have to pay for them.
But there are youtubers where you can easily spot the fact that it's a paid review in some way. Money weighs more than integrity for most people.
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The best thing to do before buying any phone, is watch few reviews from the YouTubers you trust, then head to reddit and XDA to read more from those who bought the device and actually used it.
He always gives positive critics on new products and then after some months stop support his opinion because he don't paid any more. Remember this, when mate 30 pro will launch he would say how incredible camera it has(even if it will have same camera as p30 pro)
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He always gives positive critics on new products and then after some months stop support his opinion because he don't paid any more. Remember this, when mate 30 pro will launch he would say how incredible camera it has(even if it will have same camera as p30 pro)
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The thing with the P30 Pro is that he obviously had been using this mode since day one, but until yesterday we knew why his pictures and videos were looking like crap.
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The thing with the P30 Pro is that he obviously had been using this mode since day one, but until yesterday we knew why his pictures and videos were looking like crap.
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I doubt he even updated his firmware. Most reviewers didn't hence why their videos are extra reddish.
Ultimately i guess, waiting a month or two for real reviews on xda or reddit would be the best.
But hye, most of us can't wait , get it on day 1 and regret about it later :laugh: Im quite happy with my p30 pro since updates are quite frequent and most of the color corrections are fixed.
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I doubt he even updated his firmware. Most reviewers didn't hence why their videos are extra reddish.
Ultimately i guess, waiting a month or two for real reviews on xda or reddit would be the best.
But hye, most of us can't wait , get it on day 1 and regret about it later :laugh: Im quite happy with my p30 pro since updates are quite frequent and most of the color corrections are fixed.
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I agree. The S10+ was the first flagship phone I have ever sold less than one month after owning it, and that was because I knew no matter what Samsung does, their lowlight photography won't improve drastically with software updates.
The P30 Pro was also a bit frustrating when I first got it, but from my experience with the P20 Pro, I knew Huawei was going to address the issues and more, and I am extremely satisfied with all the improvements Huawei has brought with their updates.
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I knew Huawei was going to address the issues and more, and I am extremely satisfied with all the improvements Huawei has brought with their updates.
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Would be fair if you rename or make any corrections to your own thread about TOF sensor. With latest updates it does work and hopefully is going to be improved in the future.
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Would be fair if you rename or make any corrections to your own thread about TOF sensor. With latest updates it does work and hopefully is going to be improved in the future.
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While I love my P30 Pro, I'm not going to be biased towards Huawei and give them a pass on something that is obviously not working, or at least not doing anything they promised us it will.
As you can read from the responses on that thread, the vast majority of those who tested my experiment of covering the tof sensor, are still reporting that either way, they came with the same results whether it's the camera app or the AR Measure app.
I'm on .153, and I tested everything, from portrait shots to aperture mode, to night shots, and also low light scenarios, and still, there is ZERO difference between the pictures I get when the tof is covered or uncovered.
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While I love my P30 Pro, I'm not going to be biased towards Huawei and give them a pass on something that is obviously not working, or at least not doing anything they promised us it will.
As you can read from the responses on that thread, the vast majority of those who tested my experiment of covering the tof sensor, are still reporting that either way, they came with the same results whether it's the camera app or the AR Measure app.
I'm on .153, and I tested everything, from portrait shots to aperture mode, to night shots, and also low light scenarios, and still, there is ZERO difference between the pictures I get when the tof is covered or uncovered.
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Try covering it when using thining /re shaping during video?
I think this goes for a lot of those 'celebrity reviewers' on Youtube, most of them are clueless and to be honest quite stupid. They simply review the unit to make money, if what they say and do is wrong seems to be of no importance. Personally i never watch those videos anymore, they have become more of a joke than something to take seriously.
/ Magnus
The P30 Pro's camera capabilities have come a long way if you factor in the improvements from .153 (and now .162 supposedly).
If some of these YT can ensure they're running the latest available firmware, it'll definitely help paint a clearer and more accurate picture but I understand this isn't always possible because of the timings of the video.
Coming from .124, I definitely noticed an improvement but not convinced if all these reviewers are also on it.
yes he is..you can see his latest review for op7p vs n10p vs p30p. seems obvious he is doing for the sake of money instead of real passion
My P30 pro has almost the same issue. Brown skin tones are applied to a heavy contrast effect making them look unnatural (not on smooth color)
This to an extent of making me want to sell the damn thing. I'm assuming it has to do with RYYB sensor. My kid ends up looking like decorated chocolate while the other one (who is on the fairer side) always comes out looking far better and natural.
But then again, Samsung sucks at snapping subjects unless they're completely still, which is next to impossible with kids.
My other gripe is not being able to switch to HDR with just a click instead of having to swim my way through the menu.
I'm hoping software fix is around the corner.
So Mr. whosetheboss comparison isn't all that wrong...his skin tone will ALWAYS be oversaturated, and I believe this is to do with the sensor.
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Finally someone will write something about this person. His tests are absolutely incorrect, I blocked him and I no longer look at his reviews
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Let me start by saying that I am not attacking his character or calling him clueless in general, but he is obviously amateur to when it comes to using Huawei's phones.
I always thought the results he gets from his P30 Pro are way off when compared to the results other reviewers get from their phones, or from the ones I get from my P30 Pro. They're always overly saturated with tons of contrast. And I never understood the reason until I watched his OP 7 Pro vs S10+ vs P30 Pro camera comparison. And as someone who had the S10+ before this phone, and with my wife still owning her S10+, I know that 8/10 times, the S10 will give you the more saturated picture, which isn't the case with Mrwhosetheboss. Then I finally found out why is this the case with his phone, as it turned out that he is using the Smooth Colors option because he thinks, and I believe based on the name of the mode, it generates less saturation while using this mode. He mentioned this twice in his review, so it's obvious he uses this mode all the time, thus why the P30 Pro in this test lost miserably to the S10 and OP 7 Pro, as the P30 Pro pictures were coming out extremely cartoonish with crushed details in the shadows as if you're using a vignette filter all over your pictures.
I believe that while Huawei are taking these so called professional reviewers on cruise trips all over Europe, they also should educate them on how to use their phones so that they won't spread misinformation to the masses without them realizing that they're doing that.
I apologize for the longass rant, and for my average English.
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Why u two rely only on him? Check more vids linus ranting Huawei all time because he is an a***ole because everything from china is s**t for him..
Best is to test device by self
he isnt boss, he is mrwhosethef*ck
I know the Mate 20 pro re-appeared on Google’s Android Q Beta page, but I'm really not sure about what to do with the phone. It's great but the uncertainty is a bit worrying.
Is there anyone out there that has sold or is considering selling the mate20pro? If yes, which phones did you go for/are you considering?
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I know the Mate 20 pro re-appeared on Google’s Android Q Beta page, but I'm really not sure about what to do with the phone. It's great but the uncertainty is a bit worrying.
Is there anyone out there that has sold or is considering selling the mate20pro? If yes, which phones did you go for/are you considering?
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If you are going to change I'd wait for more 5G phones to come out
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If you are going to change I'd wait for more 5G phones to come out
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Fair point, but it's just that if I think like that I'll have to stick to the mate20pro for another half year or so, most other "flagship" android phones have already been released for this year.. I reckon that the S10 or S10+ are the only ones that come close to the mate20pro in terms of camera versatility, battery, size, and I'd also get the headphone jack, which is nice.
Still not decided whether to sell it or not. I could sell it for max 400 EUR now...
In case I sell Mate then probably will chose between OP7 Pro and S10+. Each has pros and cons, but certainly I will miss Mate's camera. And charging speed (ok, OP is close here). And 3D face unlock..
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I'm waiting for next years batch of 5G handsets
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Still not decided whether to sell it or not. I could sell it for max 400 EUR now...
In case I sell Mate then probably will chose between OP7 Pro and S10+. Each has pros and cons, but certainly I will miss Mate's camera. And charging speed (ok, OP is close here). And 3D face unlock..
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Right, same here - the only "real" alternative is the P30 pro :silly:
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I'm waiting for next years batch of 5G handsets
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So you'll stick to the mate20 pro for another 10 months or so? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, we might be lucky and they figure it all out in the next couple of weeks/months but it could take much longer and then the re-sell value of the mate20pro will be very low (apart from the risk of not having an updated Android version).
I have the same problem. Only phone what can change is P30 Pro but good one model, without reed, orange color problem in camera.
S10 Plus is finr but still no even close to Mate 20 Pro.
Im still on my Mate 20 Pro and I cant change it, because P30 Pro is still expensive for me. But the price is falling day by day for my Mate 20 Pro.
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Right, same here - the only "real" alternative is the P30 pro :silly:
So you'll stick to the mate20 pro for another 10 months or so? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, we might be lucky and they figure it all out in the next couple of weeks/months but it could take much longer and then the re-sell value of the mate20pro will be very low (apart from the risk of not having an updated Android version).
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Only the Pixel will have Android Q this year anyway and it doesn't contain anything EMUI hasn't already got so why rush to change
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Only the Pixel will have Android Q this year anyway and it doesn't contain anything EMUI hasn't already got so why rush to change
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For me it's related to the security updates, maybe we'll stop getting them within a couple of months, we just can't be sure at this point. If that should happen (hopefully it won't!) the phone wouldn't sell for anything really, so it's sort of sell while it's still sellable.
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For me it's related to the security updates, maybe we'll stop getting them within a couple of months, we just can't be sure at this point. If that should happen (hopefully it won't!) the phone wouldn't sell for anything really, so it's sort of sell while it's still sellable.
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Yep, thinking exactly the same. Sadly for me there is no proper alternative right now.
OP7 camera is dissapointing (according to feedbacks on OP forums), it has ghost touch issues (probably SW related, so fixable)..
S10+ on the other hand has desperately slow charging, camera is good but still a no match for Mate's in poor light conditions
Well, probably will sell my Mate soon and anyway take one of the above devices. As you say, it may happen that in few months this phone won't be sellable
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All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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[email protected] said:
All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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My point exactly it doesn't bother me
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All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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My point exactly it doesn't bother me
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It's great if that works for you guys.
But it's a relatively new device, I'm not really ok with not getting security updates. There's a reason those are rolled out, and it's not just to protect users from shady download sites.
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It's great if that works for you guys.
But it's a relatively new device, I'm not really ok with not getting security updates. There's a reason those are rolled out, and it's not just to protect users from shady download sites.
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Be honest now, when have you ever checked security update schedules for any of your devices since mobile phones became common place? Before purchasing.
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people are worrying about Huawei a little too much, nothing is going to come of it, business will carry on as usual imho
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people are worrying about Huawei a little too much, nothing is going to come of it, business will carry on as usual imho
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Well, it seems they have just stopped or at least slowed down production dramatically
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...fter-blacklisting-reports-claim/#7db58d556eed
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Be honest now, when have you ever checked security update schedules for any of your devices since mobile phones became common place? Before purchasing.
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You are right, it's not the first thing I look at. The truth is that I started worrying more and more about security as I got older, probably because I have way more sensitive information now than I had in my teens (banking apps and stuff, emails, whatsapp which yes, I could all remove, but that defeats the purpose of a smartphone) - it's the principle that matters.
Also, another thing is that it could well be that in some months we all have to install Ark OS, which allegedly will work with android apps but that's not what I signed up for when I spent almost $1k on this phone.
It's like buying an electric car and after one year they tell you that it's a hybrid now.
Got an iPhone XS Max 256 GB and i love it ! I still have my mate 20 pro. Maybe I will sell it but I got used to iOS so quick and it is really good. I got a used one from swappa less than 800 and it works great. I’ve been an Android fan for some years now but I think I might like the iPhone better also I live in USA and iMessage is a must here. Don’t be afraid of using other OS. Camera is great as well. No night mode or ultra wide but the standard pictures IMO are more flattering and taking pictures it’s instant. I took a bunch of pictures and colored side by side and surprisingly I like the iPhones better. Just wanted to tell you my experience
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Well, it seems they have just stopped or at least slowed down production dramatically
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...fter-blacklisting-reports-claim/#7db58d556eed
You are right, it's not the first thing I look at. The truth is that I started worrying more and more about security as I got older, probably because I have way more sensitive information now than I had in my teens (banking apps and stuff, emails, whatsapp which yes, I could all remove, but that defeats the purpose of a smartphone) - it's the principle that matters.
Also, another thing is that it could well be that in some months we all have to install Ark OS, which allegedly will work with android apps but that's not what I signed up for when I spent almost $1k on this phone.
It's like buying an electric car and after one year they tell you that it's a hybrid now.
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All current devices will continue to receive security updates and access to google play, Future devices may not but as it appears Google and Huawei are working together. Of course everything published is negative is that not the way it always is? Doom and gloom first then reality. I just bought a P30 Pro on device upgrade yesterday for cheap 350 in canada and my mthly plan stayed pretty much the same as it ws prior, in fact I got more data , I am in Canada. I am not too concerned, in fact if I opt for the Mate 20 I can save another 100 but damn the 10x zoom is so appealing, yet to open box
I think this is not a really big issue, even if you can't get auto update on your Huawei.
Google can't stop you install the software
such a nice phone what a pity to throw away
I'll probably get Pixel 4 or Pixel 4XL somewhere in November - December. Don't want one more Chinese phone anymore.