TAB S3 and 4K H.265 Main 10? - Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Questions & Answers

Hi,
did anybody tried to read 2160p Main10 HDR videos on this new Tab S3. I'm using the Asus Zenpad 3 S10 Z500M which reads everything including H.265 2160p Main 10, and would like to swap to Samsung Tab.
Can any Tab S3 owner go to demo uhd 3d website and test some heavy 4k h.265 10 bits 60fps videos?
Also 2160p 60fps Big Buck Bunny h.264 video which is a very heavy one?

I just downloaded a few HEVC HDR 10 4k from that website and they all played perfectly

Thanks Lee82UK!
Did you try 60 fps H.265/HEVC Main 10 HDR videos?
Did you try them with MX Player in SW, HW or HW+?
Because it's the only way to know if the Tab uses hardware or software decoding? (Good is HW or HW+)
Did you also try the Big Buck Bunny H.264 2160p @ 60 fps?
This one is a real hard one, but this type of encoding is of no interest today with H.265 performances.

radioham said:
Thanks Lee82UK!
Did you try 60 fps H.265/HEVC Main 10 HDR videos?
Did you try them with MX Player in SW, HW or HW+?
Because it's the only way to know if the Tab uses hardware or software decoding? (Good is HW or HW+)
Did you also try the Big Buck Bunny H.264 2160p @ 60 fps?
This one is a real hard one, but this type of encoding is of no interest today with H.265 performances.
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I tried the 'Big Buck Bunny' one for you. It was unsuccessful at playing it fluidly. Very jittery and unwatchable. This was with MX player on HW+

Thanks Jonathonalexander!
I was almost sure it didn't work.
I've tried this video on a lot of tablets, ARM and X86 SoC, and it was always the same. The bit rate is too high for those systems. Only Quad Core PC can handle this.
QUESTION: Did anyboby tried to read LG_NASA_HDR.MP4 video on demo uhd 3d website WITH Tab S3?
QUESTION: in which format are Tab S3 QHD videos recorded? H.264 or 265?

radioham said:
Thanks Lee82UK!
Did you try 60 fps H.265/HEVC Main 10 HDR videos?
Did you try them with MX Player in SW, HW or HW+?
Because it's the only way to know if the Tab uses hardware or software decoding? (Good is HW or HW+)
Did you also try the Big Buck Bunny H.264 2160p @ 60 fps?
This one is a real hard one, but this type of encoding is of no interest today with H.265 performances.
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radioham said:
Thanks Jonathonalexander!
I was almost sure it didn't work.
I've tried this video on a lot of tablets, ARM and X86 SoC, and it was always the same. The bit rate is too high for those systems. Only Quad Core PC can handle this.
QUESTION: Did anyboby tried to read LG_NASA_HDR.MP4 video on demo uhd 3d website WITH Tab S3?
QUESTION: in which format are Tab S3 QHD videos recorded? H.264 or 265?
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The 60fps NASA HDR was one that I tried, it played great. I was playing them with the built-in (Samsung) video player.
The S3 UHD videos are recorded in H.264.
Hope this helps

Great!
Thanks Lee82UK!
Yes it helps!
And it's usefull to anybody who have to make a choice.
QUESTION: How is battery draining while in stand-by mode?
My ASUS ZENPAD 3S 10 Z500M is loosing 1% every 2 to 3 hours, and my TAB S2 SM-T713 1% every 5 hours.

Hi.
I got my Tab S3 2 days ago.
I've tested with MX PLAYER all heavy HEVC HDR videos, 10 bits UHD 2160p @60fps, and of course all other formats and bitrates.
EVERYTHING WORKS GREAT. All in HW or HW+.
Even the AVC h.264 UHD 2160p @60fps "Big Buck Bunny" works perfectly and fludly in HW+ (jonathonalexander told it didn't work fluidly???).
This Tab S3 is a must!
Also tested European version of Galaxy S8 with Exynos 8895 and it's able to read excatly the same video files as Tab S3 with absolutly no jitter.
Both Tab S3 and Galaxy S8 claim to work HDR file formats and it's true.

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[Q] 720p Video Capture on x10 Mini Pro

Isnt there a possibility to get the Xperia x10 Mini Pro to capture videos in High Definition 720p?
joygoku08 said:
Isnt there a possibility to get the Xperia x10 Mini Pro to capture videos in High Definition 720p?
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Sorry, but no, it happens because of your hardware, x10 mini Pro camera is very good, but still not enough to capture in HD. Fox example my friend has X10 and its 8.1mP so he spoke me he can capture in HD. Its because of his camera (8.1 )
XxLordxX said:
Sorry, but no, it happens because of your hardware, x10 mini Pro camera is very good, but still not enough to capture in HD. Fox example my friend has X10 and its 8.1mP so he spoke me he can capture in HD. Its because of his camera (8.1 )
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It's because our phone don't have the power to encode video in HD the camera resolution have nothing to do with video recording.
For example some tablets (xoon) or phones (galaxy R) have 5mp camera and record video in HD.
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Sorry for my ignorant answer
VGA 640x480 is the highest possible.
As it has been said before, the X10 Mini and X10 Mini Pro simply don't have enough power to encode video in 720p and higher.
Just an idea... What about saving the raw video stream and encoding it on a pc... (yeah i know it takes a lot of space.)
ruifung said:
Just an idea... What about saving the raw video stream and encoding it on a pc... (yeah i know it takes a lot of space.)
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Not sure what class of sd card you'd need, but the mb/s could still be greater than even class 10 could handle! HD raw is a lot of bits a second.
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most probably no
to check just play a 720p(mp4) on arcmedia ,it lags alot
i think it might be possible to record vid on lower framerate(15 or lower)...
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it has nothing to do with megapixelzz eg:web cams have 2mpx with 720p
For me, X10mini & mini pro is enough powerful to record 720p because many less powerful Samsung or other featured phone can record HD. Also camera does not matter cause iPod touch has a VGA camera which is capable to record 720p at 30FPS. It is just about kernel & camera driver. It is not impossible but may be it is very difficult.
Raqib said:
For me, X10mini & mini pro is enough powerful to record 720p because many less powerful Samsung or other featured phone can record HD. Also camera does not matter cause iPod touch has a VGA camera which is capable to record 720p at 30FPS. It is just about kernel & camera driver. It is not impossible but may be it is very difficult.
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I think you are missing something....by power, i assume, u'r tryin 2 point 2wards "processing" power????...were did you find a cell with less than 600Mhz processing power and YET encoding 1280X720 videos???????!!!!!!!!!....it is just plain impossible......can u site any example to prove me wrong, please??????
Raqib said:
For me, X10mini & mini pro is enough powerful to record 720p because many less powerful Samsung or other featured phone can record HD. Also camera does not matter cause iPod touch has a VGA camera which is capable to record 720p at 30FPS. It is just about kernel & camera driver. It is not impossible but may be it is very difficult.
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I think you are missing something....by power, i assume, u'r tryin 2 point 2wards "processing" power????...were did you find a cell with less than 600Mhz processing power and YET encoding 1280X720 videos ???????!!!!!!!!!....it is just plain impossible......can u site any example to prove me wrong, please??????
is there any video player which plays 720p videos??
My media player only uses a 400mhz processor and 256mb RAM and can encode HD video from either DVB (already encoded to be fair) or analogue RGB input... However, the processor is geared towards media processing, in fact it was built to do that and that alone, if it was asked to render a simple vga 3D game it would probably output 1fps if anything at all!
Some processors are designed for specific tasks which they can do remarkably well, others are design to do many things but not quite as well. Software does play a mighty big part but it cannot overcome the constraints of the hardware in question.
Maybe other phones with HD recording have an inbuilt subprocessor or utilize functions inherant in Arm 7 but not Arm 6.. it might be possible to emulate the functions but the results might not be great.
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obsidian_eclipse said:
Not sure what class of sd card you'd need, but the mb/s could still be greater than even class 10 could handle! HD raw is a lot of bits a second.
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ITS very very very difficult
but nothing is imposible
see this:::
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698287
I don't think that processing power is the limitation here for higher quality recording. This is what SE used to say for froyo or gb and it's plain crap proven repeatedly.
The problems are:
a) the sensor, i.e. is it capable of higher res. for video recording? 5mpixels are more that enough for 720p (i.e. like the N1) but there's more than the mpixels in the camera sensor to be able to do more.
b) we don't have kernel support for anything more than VGA. And this is sensor specific. If we ever got lucky and another msm7x27 device used this sensor and had better resolution we might have been able to investigate if it's usable.
c) we can't load custom kernels (this stops any other thoughts for the time being).
achyut said:
I think you are missing something....by power, i assume, u'r tryin 2 point 2wards "processing" power????...were did you find a cell with less than 600Mhz processing power and YET encoding 1280X720 videos???????!!!!!!!!!....it is just plain impossible......can u site any example to prove me wrong, please??????
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its not impossible
n8(680mhz)
omnia hd(600mhz)
Motorola MOTO MT716(600 android based))
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8-3252.php
achyut said:
I think you are missing something....by power, i assume, u'r tryin 2 point 2wards "processing" power????...were did you find a cell with less than 600Mhz processing power and YET encoding 1280X720 videos???????!!!!!!!!!....it is just plain impossible......can u site any example to prove me wrong, please??????
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My friend, by the term "powerful" I meant the processing power too. If it is possible with Omnia HD's 600MHz then it is possible with 600MHz too. I have modded my old Motorola E2 which have a 1.3MPx camera & now I am able to record 720p at 17Fps with that. I just worked with kernel, because E2 runs linux & android is also using linux kernel I think it is possible. I am currently working on that. Let me see If I can prove you wrong
Raqib said:
. I just worked with kernel, because E2 runs linux & android is also using linux kernel I think it is possible. I am currently working on that. Let me see If I can prove you wrong
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buddy,dats da key point....we cannot yet load custom kernels
nd of omnia hd, or n8 or SE vivaz....dey r symbian. symbian is a lot "lighter" os dan android but as sed, processin power is not actually da problem....lets keep fingrz crossd
now that we have kernel support.. is HD video recording possible??

Problem with playing video

Hi guys,
I had bought Samsung galaxy tab 10.1
I am having problem with playing movie 1080p BluRay x264 and also sometime with the full hd movies downloaded from bangbros and realityking site.
the movies are playing with pause what i can say playing slow.
I think galaxy tab 10.1 is HD then why its is not able to play. on the other hand same movies and running smoothly on my Samsung galaxy s2.
If I need to do anything.
one more thing I want to inform my s2 is rooted and tab10.1 is not.
Can't compare the two devices as they use different processors and therefore have different degrees of support for hardware decoding. The tablet is on the shorter end of the stick but you can encode files at 720p that play beautifully on it. Want to be able to throw any old video downloaded off the Web at 1080p at it? look elsewhere, regardless of what Samsung marketed it to be able to do it's just not cut out to do that.
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[Q] Video player performance compared to original Galaxy Tab 7

I have not sold my old Galaxy Tab 7 yet and I already have my shiny, new and rooted Tablet S.
I keep my movies on my networked media tank on my LAN and I stream movies to my tablets over the network within the house.
I managed to load the cifs.ko module and mount the network media player on both units. I use BS Player Lite on both units (although I have also tried mobo player and mx player on the Tablet S).
So here is my question: The Galaxy Tab is able to play even 1080p mkv's without breaking sweat, basically anything I can throw at it, whereas the Tablet S struggles with some of the 720p mkv's and cannot even start the 1080p ones without freezing. Is this normal behaviour? Is it because the screen has a greater resolution and the Tablet S has to work so much harder than the 1024x600 Galaxy Tab?
The Tegra 2 CPU used in the Tablet S struggles with HD content encoded using H.264 and the High profile. It's a known limitation.
For videos you encode yourself using H.264/x264, you should use the Main profile.
For downloaded HD content that is already encoded using the high profile we're all out of luck
I usually use MX Player Pro on my tablet, but I've tried Dice Player and it is somewhat better at playing high profile stuff, so you may want to give that a try.
Thank you! I did not know this. So actually the hardware in this dualcore tablet is weaker than the 2-year-old Galaxy Tab? Or is this only a driver issue?
sedohunta said:
Thank you! I did not know this. So actually the hardware in this dualcore tablet is weaker than the 2-year-old Galaxy Tab? Or is this only a driver issue?
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When it comes to HD video playback the Exynos 3110 CPU used in the Galaxy Tab has the upper hand, yes. I was a bit surprised to find out that the Tegra 2 wasn't better at video decoding myself. And no, AFAIK it's not just a driver issue, so it can't be fixed through software/firmware.
Heh. Thanks again! This is a real eye-opener. To tell you the truth it never occured to me to check whether a newer chipset / tablet would actually have lower performance than the previous generation. One would think they upped the resolution of these tablets to 1280x800 to meet 720p HD requirements....
I'm using Dice Player, it has HW acceleration.
I was mildly disappointed with the Sony's high-res Video playback capabilities after I also upgraded from my venerable GT-P1000 Galaxy Tab. Now I use MX Video Player and it seems to do alright, but the Sony's hardware accelerated mode as mentioned above is very finicky about its x264 video.
Also, even if an app claims to be hardware accelerated, chances are extremely good it's probably not. Built-in Hardware Acceleration won't go live until ICS and when video players use the "Hardware Decoding" option (note that its not the same), they just use the Sony's built-in chip and all the video players will deal with it pretty much the same.
real
I use Real Player and Mobo Player and have rarely any problems.
A help if you are having issues is to shut down all of the unneeded apps, clear out your ram and shut off the data connection.

[Q] Video playback - T2 vs T3

Hi,
quick question. How is Tegra 3 doing in regard of video playback?
Has all the issues of Tegra 2 been sorted?
mkv 720p HP is still problem (had Galaxy Tab 10.1 for few weeks and on all players from the market such files were "no go").
Has any one tried files recorded by full hd camcorders - m2ts/mts ?
Videoplayback is much better. It's not even a day and night comparison.
For camcorder files it's a little bit hard to say. I think 1080p/30fps should work. Everythink above could be a problem.

AMLogix S905X4 and Stam Link 4k60 streaming?

Hey guys, i´m looking for a farily cheap box to use exclusively as a steam link device for 4k60, currently i own the OG Steam Link, and while it is a hell of a little gadget, it simply does not deal with 4k60, and my actual TV, even tho it has Android TV has some weak decoding capabilities it seems, i lose frames even at 1080p.
Anyways, anyone has any experience with Steam Link (wired) and any AMLogic S905X4 SoC decoding exclusevly 4k60 games to share?
Are both, the computer and the Android TV, wired?
The chip is for sure more than capable enough.
Let me also suggest you to try AMD link or Moonlight for nvidia.

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