USB-C 'Type C' Accessories and Cables for XZ P - Identify what works with the XZ P ? - Sony Xperia XZ Premium Accessories

Hello,
I'm currently looking for some USB-C cables and adapters for use with the XZ P with only limited success....
Items which I have found do work with the XZ P are:
USB-C to USB A or uUSB Sync-Charge Cables
Anker USB-C to USB 3.1 Adapter - Short [13cm] (equivalent to 'old' USB2 spec OTG function)
[USB Type C Powerline Specification Gen 1]
Flash Drives - A variety of Flash Drives have been successfully recognised by the XZ P using this adapter and mount as normal storage alongside the built-in uSD card.
Micro SD Card Reader - The Lexar C1 microSD Reader works perfectly.
Hard Disc Drives - I have successfully mounted a Seagate Backup Plus Slim 2 TB USB 3.0 Portable 2.5 inch External Hard Drive using this adapter (formatted as exFAT) together with a Lindy 0.5m USB 3.0 Dual Power Cable, 2 x Type A to Micro-B cable. Power is supplied either from a convenient USB port or a portable power bank. Also a Zalman ZM-VE300 external HDD enclosure fitted with a similar Seagate 2TB 2.5" HDD, also exFAT. FAT32 will also work but only up to 32GB with a 4GB file size limit; NTFS is not recognised.
There does not appear to be any sign of the former manual USB Detection option under Settings, but so far Android seems to just auto-detect, albeit without any apparent notification, which seems a little odd, given the system insists on issuing notifications for everything under the sun otherwise...
>> Update - the OS appears to content itself with a notification labelled "Android System" in the drop-down with the drive name shown. You can then click through to see the drive contents from there or access via Settings | Storage & Memory. <<
Anker USB-C to Micro USB (female) Adapter [2 in 1 Pack]
Boweike USB C to USB 3.0 Retractable Cable
MAPUX USB Type C Cable USB to USB C Cable 3 Pack - Three different lengths - [1 x 30cm, 1 x 90cm + 1 x 180cm]
XGUO® USB Type-C to USB Fast Charge Sync - Short [22cm], Flat cable
[USB Type C Specification Gen 1]
DataPeak USB-C to USB-A 3.0 Cable - Short [20cm], Round cable
[Stated as USB3.0]
This one is pending and will be reported when received/tested:
3 in 1 USB C Type C OTG Charging Host Cable
USB-C to 3.5mm Audio Adapters (with/without Charge-Through option)
The USB-C spec for Audio Adapter Accessory Mode says:
USB-C plug supports analog headsets through an audio adapter accessory with a 3.5 mm socket providing four standard analog audio signals (Left, Right, Mic, and GND). The audio adapter may optionally include a USB-C pass-through plug to allow 500 mA device charging.
But I have had no joy with the following:
Type C USB-C to 3.5mm Audio Jack Adapter, ADTRIP 15cm
Belker Type C to 3.5mm Audio Headphone Stereo Adapter ConnectorDISDIM 2 in 1 Type C to 3.5mm Audio Headphone Jack Adapter with Charger
Motorola Moto Z Connector Type C to 3.5mm Headphone Stereo Adapter Connector
None of these audio adapters seem to be recognised by the phone, either natively or by trying to force a connection using SoundAbout Pro .
It is currently unclear whether Sony have implemented the USB Type C Audio Adapter Accessory Mode (Analogue Audio output) - if anyone has any information on implementation and/or any dongles / software combinations which would facilitate this functionality will be greatly appreciated !
The following uSD Card Reader has also been tried without success:
Rocketek USB C Portable Card Reader for Micro SD Cards
Other Potential Connectivity Members have reported do not work in other posts
- USB-C to Ethernet
- USB-C to HDMI
- USB-C to DisplayPort
- USB-C to VGA
It appears that video-out capability is probably not present, but again, if anyone has any definitive information we can capture it would be useful !
There is a substantial amount of information regarding various USB-C cables collated by Benson Leung of Google on USB-C cables, including an 'approved' list, which incorporates some of those mentioned above.
Best regards,
Kevin

kevinpwhite said:
Hello,
I'm currently looking for some USB-C cables and adapters for use with the XZ P with only limited success....
Items which I have found do work with the XZ P are:
USB-C to USB A or uUSB Sync-Charge Cables
Anker USB-C to USB 3.1 Adapter - Short [13cm] (equivalent to 'old' USB2 spec OTG function)
[USB Type C Powerline Specification Gen 1]
A variety of Flash Drives have been successfully recognised by the XZ P using this adapter and mount as normal storage alongside the built-in uSD card.
There does not appear to be any sign of the former manual USB Detection option under Settings, but so far Android seems to just auto-detect, albeit without any apparent notification, which seems a little odd, given the system insists on issuing notifications for everything under the sun otherwise...
Anker USB-C to Micro USB (female) Adapter [2 in 1 Pack]
Boweike USB C to USB 3.0 Retractable Cable
MAPUX USB Type C Cable USB to USB C Cable 3 Pack - Three different lengths - [1 x 30cm, 1 x 90cm + 1 x 180cm]
XGUO® USB Type-C to USB Fast Charge Sync - Short [22cm], Flat cable
[USB Type C Specification Gen 1]
DataPeak USB-C to USB-A 3.0 Cable - Short [20cm], Round cable
[Stated as USB3.0]
This one is pending and will be reported when received/tested:
3 in 1 USB C Type C OTG Charging Host Cable
USB-C to 3.5mm Audio Adapters (with/without Charge-Through option)
The USB-C spec for Audio Adapter Accessory Mode says:
USB-C plug supports analog headsets through an audio adapter accessory with a 3.5 mm socket providing four standard analog audio signals (Left, Right, Mic, and GND). The audio adapter may optionally include a USB-C pass-through plug to allow 500 mA device charging.
But I have had no joy with the following:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072P2ZHNB/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Belker Type C to 3.5mm Audio Headphone Stereo Adapter Connector
DISDIM 2 in 1 Type C to 3.5mm Audio Headphone Jack Adapter with Charger
Motorola Moto Z Connector Type C to 3.5mm Headphone Stereo Adapter Connector
None of these audio adapters seem to be recognised by the phone, either natively or by trying to force a connection using SoundAbout Pro .
It is currently unclear whether Sony have implemented the USB Type C Audio Adapter Accessory Mode (Analogue Audio output) - if anyone has any information on implementation and/or any dongles / software combinations which would facilitate this functionality will be greatly appreciated !
Other Potential Connectivity Members have reported do not work in other posts
- USB-C to Ethernet
- USB-C to HDMI
- USB-C to DisplayPort
- USB-C to VGA
It appears that video-out capability is probably not present, but again, if anyone has any definitive information we can capture it would be useful !
There is a substantial amount of information regarding various USB-C cables collated by Benson Leung of Google on USB-C cables, including an 'approved' list, which incorporates some of those mentioned above.
Best regards,
Kevin
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I've personally had great success with Type C cables from Rampow. I just wish they had a 6' or 10' cable. Here is a link to the Amazon page.
USB C Cable RAMPOW Type C to USB 3.0 Braided Charging Cable [3.3ft/Space Gray] - for LG G5/V20, Nexus 5X/6P, Samsung Galaxy S8, Moto Z, Nintendo Switch and other Devices https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N4OKUB8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_YTttzbJ2FPQTP

I borrowed one of these from a buddy with an SGS8+ and bought a 2pk for myself-- works great so far.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M8QRM7S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Also picked up some adapters. Seem to be working on the two cables I've tried so far (just for charging)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LYR5F2X/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

kevinpwhite said:
- USB-C to HDMI
- USB-C to DisplayPort
- USB-C to VGA
It appears that video-out capability is probably not present, but again, if anyone has any definitive information we can capture it would be useful !
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Hi Kevin. Thanks for linking to my USB-C to HDMI thread.
If you read that thread again you will find your answer on whether or not the Xperia XZ premium supports audiovisual output to TV using a simple USB-C to HDMI cable!

USB-C to 3,5mm Audio Jack
I bought two, in order to be sure and both work like a charm, just plug and play:
XIIVIO Audio Adaptor Type C to 3.5 mm
HTC USB-C Digital to 3.5mm adaptor

I had success with the Dell Business Dock WD15 with my XZ1c (which is basically the same device family, so it should work).
I could only try out the USB hub part of the dock, tho (had access to keyboard, mouse and drives), not sure yet about the display and ethernet.

I once tried the docking station from my nintendo switch.
Phone starts charging but no video/audio output.

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I am a user of HTC Flyer and I have done some research on connecting it with TV . I know that it is possible threw MHL adopter and HDMI cable. But what I am saying is that can it be possible threw RCA AV TV adapter Cable. I want to know that if it will support internally because physically I think it is possible. Here is how :-
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[Q] micro usb charging ports on tablet z

I was wondering if experts on this forum can help clarify these questions.
The tablet Z has a rectangular shaped micro usb receptacle which is the microusb A/B type as I understand it. Although the normal popular micro usb B type connector which is supplied with the tablet Will fit in there, it is kind of loose, being able to move a little bit. Whereas the A type connector which is usually found on the OTG cables is a perfect fit and does not move around..
So, why is it that even Sony does not supply a cable which perfectly fit the receptacle?
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A5 ’17 USB OTG: a little research

One of the things I’m really amazed by with the modern PDAs is the USB OTG. So just as I found out that my Galaxy has it, I got myself an adapter (for less than $3) and tested it with several devices. Here’re my results:
USB flash drives: every single one I tried worked perfectly except a 1 GB drive of unknown vendor, which wasn't even recognized by the Galaxy, works okay with PCs thought.
External HDDs: the Toshiba 500 GB USB 3.0 drive wasn't recognized and didn't show any signs of life. Surprisingly, a 320 GB SATA WD Blue in a USB bay was detected and spinned up, but the Galaxy didn't recognize the file system and asked if I want to format it. I didn't, since the disk had some data I needed, but there's definitely a potential.
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This is quite weird as I have tried the original Samsung Micro USB OTG adapter, with the little white USB-C adapter and it did not work. This is on A3 2017.
There were rumors that USB OTG was disabled. Which adapter do you have?
W00fer said:
This is quite weird as I have tried the original Samsung Micro USB OTG adapter, with the little white USB-C adapter and it did not work. This is on A3 2017.
There were rumors that USB OTG was disabled. Which adapter do you have?
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The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
Agent_B-7 said:
The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
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Very interesting. A different pinout for OTG. Yeah I thought it was the combo that shoud have worked.
The little adapter comes with the device is said to be charge and sync. Because when connected to my PC it works. for data transfer.
http://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/usb_cables/KS-is-KS-297-Perehodnik-USB-AF-USB-C-M-OTG_279425.html
Here’s the one I got. The site is in Russian, but the pictures are self-explanatory.
I have an OTG now from Aliexpress. It works for my A3 2017. 90 degree angle connector.
Now onto an USB-C to HDMI. The official Samsung EE-HG950 does not work.
Agent_B-7 said:
The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
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So if i understand correctly the little "micro usb connector" that comes with the A5 2017 won't work for anything other than charging? I tried using it with a regular otg cable and it doesn't detect any flash drive, not even a ps3 controller, i don't even get the notification that a usb is plugged in.
But whats weird is if i use a male to male usb cable and connect to to a pc it works just fine. Any idea whats causing this?
Please help. I have the same problem. I have newly bought a5 2017. I already have otg usb drive sandisk. The adapter type c included in the box didn't work fine. Except only for charging when connected to usb 2.0.
My usb otg drive will become useless if it doesn't read by my device. What should i do? Or how to activate maybe my otg support? Tnx in advance.
shrekpido21 said:
Please help. I have the same problem. I have newly bought a5 2017. I already have otg usb drive sandisk. The adapter type c included in the box didn't work fine. Except only for charging when connected to usb 2.0.
My usb otg drive will become useless if it doesn't read by my device. What should i do? Or how to activate maybe my otg support? Tnx in advance.
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The adapter from the box is just for charging and data transfer to compuer. If you want to use your flasdisk you can buy a new usb otg for type c slot.

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OTG is working, and if a tablet or phone doesn't have OTG then you can't break it by plugging in an adaptor.
It's also USB 3.0, and can power an external hard-drive (not just any old hard-drive, a usb to sata adapter with laptop drive!)

Gadgets + Adaptors - how much do you gain by replacing them with "native" gadgets?

Gadgets + Adaptors - how much do you gain by replacing them with "native" gadgets?
Rather than "how much" the question should be "do you gain anything"?
So I have USB 3.0 dongles out the wazoo. An ethernet adaptor, a serial port adapter, an (unpowered) 3 port USB 3.0 hub + card reader, etc. And I have USB-C to USB 3.0 adapter.
Is there any reason to replace these gadgets? For instance, will a USB-C card reader transfer data faster than a USB 3.0 card reader plus an adapter cable? How about USB 3.0 thumb drives on the 3.0 hub?
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I don't have a bluetooth keyboard, but both a USB keyboard and a Logitech keyboard with Universal RF / USB receiver work fine (although I can see the advantage to Bluetooth over both)
Besides HDMI, which seems to be touchy because of the power requirements (my Insignia adaptor seems to have "slow charging" issues), what kind of gadgets are you finding useful, and which ones do you need to update to USB-C?
Take care,
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At least from the card reader perspective, I have speed tested using the adapter and no difference. I also use an adapter for my smart card reader without issue...and cheap adapters at that.
I think you need an all in one adapters (like USB's, SD card reader, ethernet, HDMI and usb type-c for charging) and effective internal components for transfer speed and power delivery.
I have an adapter from Ugreen 7 in 1 adapter and works great but if you can't find it you can probably get the same things from different brands.
For a keyboard and mouse, going with the all Bluetooth or one universal dongle like Logitech make sense but don't forget that if just use the keyboard and mice with the all in one dongle drains your battery a lot but if you have just type-c to usb 3.0 adapter or type-c to otg (whatever you call it) it is much for useful and you don't toggle Bluetooth always. But for Bluetooth you don't need to carry the adapters.
For HDMI, i am using the all in one or HDMI and power delivery adapter (from Ugreen too) but it depends on what i need.
So you always need different adapters for what you do. But i don't know about pluging the hub to a hub, but it is not useful and not looking good so one adapter is more effective.
But there is a problem with these adapters, they need power and it is not fast charging the tablet(but not slowly charging too just normal) with the adapter that come with so i think you have to have a PD charge for tablet when using adapters because it doesn't support QC3.0 (i tested but not fast charging).
Berkowich,
PD and QC3 charging is not something I'd heard of before. I've read some web pages now but have questions.. Because this is sort of a different topic I'll start a new thread. If you can respond, that would be great!
Thanks,
Joe

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