Should I update from 6.0.1 in my situation? - Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
New user here, I have a my Z5 Compact as a spare phone and to run my UK sim while I'm living in NZ. So it's not my day to day phone.
I sometimes use it while away hiking/running long distances as a spare with it being more waterproof than my normal NZ phone.
So I don't have lots of apps installed, use it in a very simple way and want good battery life, reliability and minimum amount of bloat and bundled un-required apps etc.
The phone currently runs 6.0.1 build 23.5.A.1.291 and is not offering any OTA updates, it says it's up to date which is strange. Is this a carrier issue due to the fact I have a UK sim card in but currently connected via a NZ network?
I've seen reports of bad battery usage etc on the newer versions, with this in mind should I stick with 6.0.1 or seek to try and upgrade in some other way?
Thanks

I highly recommend staying with 6. Nougat is giving me pretty low battery life. The excessive cpu usage and sluggish ui problem can be resolved by disabling movie maker {that is how I am limping along on Nougat }
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[Q] Which region's firmware (6.0.A.3.73) is best?

Hey Guys,
Over in the development section, there is a number of different region firmwares (6.0.A.3.73). I've read a few posts where the poster claims the Norway version is best. I'm wondering whether anybody knows which one is the best? Or is there no difference?
There's some minor differences in preinstalled apps, but almost nothing in the framework, etc.
I was going to ask the same question. I'm on the sg one and I am a very heavy user but I still need to charge my phone everyday
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There are no differences in battery drain between different customizations.
My experience is that .73 did improved slightly on battery life.
The issue of most up to date smart phone is battery consuming, thus we're not required much for 2 or 3 days.
IMO if it can stands for 1 working day with heavy use is enough, then we can charge it at night is fair.
And with. 73 the battery is just get much better, also you can adjust something with Titanium Backup will help you gain more time + Juice defender or Go Power
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I am currently using the SG version while I use to have the HK version. What I have noticed so far is that the virtual keyboard layout is somewhat different between the two. Besides that, I didn't noticed a difference in terms of performance. I thought I'd just put this post out there just in case there is in deed a particular region's firmware performs better.
Well, lets say.. the "best" might be the CE1 because its an European generic, no other junk apps.
Let's not forget that it is only .67.
The .73 Central European would be perfect.
.73 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24844156
Scroll down, also root available
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I'm using rooted Central Europe .73
It's very clean and fast. No preinstalled apps like "Astro Explorer", "appXtra...."
in some 73 firmware (i.e. Lebanon) it doesn't have SEA-enabled input methods (i.e. Chinese/Japanese IME)

[Q] ROM with as little bloatware and good battery lifetime as possible? Suggestions?

I'm looking to find a ROM/Kernel for my mom's i9300 with good battery lifetime and as little bloatware as possible. High performance is NOT required, as she only uses the phone for texting, calling, facebooking and occasional spotify.
Suggestions? ROM-version doesn't matter.
This type of question is not so useful.
You can stay with Stock 4.3 and disable all apps that you dont' want.
harull93 said:
I'm looking to find a ROM/Kernel for my mom's i9300 with good battery lifetime and as little bloatware as possible. High performance is NOT required, as she only uses the phone for texting, calling, facebooking and occasional spotify.
Suggestions? ROM-version doesn't matter.
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Try Carbon ROM 4.4.4 or SlimKat 4.4.4. And probably a new battery.
That's what I was using until Lollipop was released.

Getting slower? or just past it's time?

I've enjoyed my XT910 for a couple of years, but quit using it about 3-4 years ago. Now I want to use it with a secondary SIM, perhaps as a WiFi hotspot while roaming, but I find the speed appalling. Every operation takes seconds to show a result. Even unlocking to an SMS notification takes ~4 seconds.
Using MoKee 5.1 on a secondary ROM slot, I think. It's always on charge (as battery is slowly dying) and the only active app is PushBullet, used to see check my SMSs on other devices.
Does it make sense to invest in a new battery and keep this phone as my secondary? Or should I just get a cheap Chinese one, like Ulefone U007?
I don't expect miracles, just maybe using it as a light travel phone, mobile hotspot, speedcam notifier and occasional (once every two months) browsing. Should I maybe switch to a stock-based ROM that lives on the main slot? Get rid of slots altogether?
The phone lived some nice times, travelled around the world, edited and uploaded DSLR pictures with OTG, provided navigation to rickshaw drivers, was a portable desktop for a while, then a retro-gaming machine. Maybe it just wants to be retired...
Motomizer can help overclock it so it doesn't seem as slow. I haven't maxed mine out, just ramped it up about midway.
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I've bought a new battery and installed Mokee 5.1, upgraded later to 6.0. Battery life is ok-ish, but not much of a difference. I've measured the old battery to still have 1400-1500Ah, the new one is ~1700mAh. I suspect the poor battery life was due to some hanging processes.
Anyway, with Mookee 6.0, the phone is unbearably slow. I have whatsapp, viber, google maps and nothing else. LMK has been set to very aggressive.
When I receive an SMS, it takes 5-15 seconds for it to load, if it doesn't FC. When I unlock the phone (after it sat for a while) it takes at least 10s to come to life.
My suspicion is that there is high memory usage (Android reports 30-70MB remaining) which causes everything to be evicted from RAM. Not sure what can be done, except install an older android version. I thought the newer ones had better memory and battery management.
Android OS - 285MB
Android System - 99MB
Google Play services - 75MB
System UI - 54MB
Phone - 36MB
Viber - 35MB
Messaging service - 35MB
Whatsapp - 33MB
.......
Free memory 28MB
Not sure what I should do: switch to an older Android version? if so, which ROM would be more responsive but still frugal? Do not update apps as newer ones eat more memory? Give up?
I've already half-given up and ordered a cheap Blackview A7, but I really liked the Moto as a travel/backup phone.

First time Sony user

Hey, i got a sweet deal for brand new Z5 compact, and bought it for a family member (previous phone galaxy s4 mini)
Compact size (and good reviews) were deciding factors
I'm a long time nexus user and don't know anything about Xperia in general, apart from reviews for Z5..
Can you help me with a bit of tl;dr what should i expect from software in general, and Z5 model? quirks, problems, something i should watch out for or modify?
I'm not gonna root/rom if not necessary, want a stock stable android and maybe cosmetic changes with a good launcher or similar
any help appreciated
Overheating, bad camera image quality, battery drain, lagging due to old CPU, 2G ram and aggressive throttling..
My advice would be get newer model instead like X Compact or XZ1 Compact if you have higher budget.
I'm a old Nexus 4 user too. I bought my Z5c when my Nexus 4's screen become unusable after it was dropped. I've installed official Lineage OS on my Z5c. I'm not a heavy phone user but occasionally in the day i look up reddit use firefox to read/search something and listen music when I'm using subway and of course use Whatsapp to communicate with my friends. I don't use Facebook on my phone. Installing Lineage rooting via Magisk and installing Brevent app for increasing battery life made phone my favorite. It endures my daily use for 2 days without charging sometimes it may go 2 and 1/2. The features of stock rom like Bravia engine were not interesting for me and considering the bloatware included it's hard to call that they are worth it. I generally don't use my phone as camera but sometimes take quick photos of the landscapes with scenic views. Camera quality is enough for me. I'm not taking 4K videos w/ my phone anyway. There is a feature of stock ROM that I miss though. The iOS like selection magnifier for text boxes was a killer feature of stock ROM. RAM usage dropped 200 MiB and responsiveness of the phone is significantly increased with LOS. It is a great phone overall.
mlleemiles said:
Overheating, bad camera image quality, battery drain, lagging due to old CPU, 2G ram and aggressive throttling..
My advice would be get newer model instead like X Compact or XZ1 Compact if you have higher budget.
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Well, i bought it already X or XZ1 would be in much higher price range than for what i got.
It's gonna be very very lightweight usage, basic stuff only, so only thing that concerns me is that 'battery drain' after nougat update?
Is that issue fixed with some recent updates or still a problem?
xenondroid said:
I'm a old Nexus 4 user too. I bought my Z5c when my Nexus 4's screen become unusable after it was dropped. I've installed official Lineage OS on my Z5c. I'm not a heavy phone user but occasionally in the day i look up reddit use firefox to read/search something and listen music when I'm using subway and of course use Whatsapp to communicate with my friends. I don't use Facebook on my phone. Installing Lineage rooting via Magisk and installing Brevent app for increasing battery life made phone my favorite. It endures my daily use for 2 days without charging sometimes it may go 2 and 1/2. The features of stock rom like Bravia engine were not interesting for me and considering the bloatware included it's hard to call that they are worth it. I generally don't use my phone as camera but sometimes take quick photos of the landscapes with scenic views. Camera quality is enough for me. I'm not taking 4K videos w/ my phone anyway. There is a feature of stock ROM that I miss though. The iOS like selection magnifier for text boxes was a killer feature of stock ROM. RAM usage dropped 200 MiB and responsiveness of the phone is significantly increased with LOS. It is a great phone overall.
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Huh man, now i'm thinking of Lineage ^^ i know it's better os, but i used nexus because i didn't have time to constantly updating my roms and guessing will my camera work properly with new one etc.
If i decide to flash Lineage, can you tell me is it streamlined and documented properly for Z5 so i don't waste hours on research?
And also, is nougat battery drain still present? any major bugs in Lineage for Z5?
tnx for replies!
I'm running latest stock rooted. Having overheating and lags when browsing webs..
wipe calvik data cache...remove bloatware (spotify, moviecreator...) try again...after that the phone works as it should
100% use LineageOS. Performance and battery life life are phenomenal compare to the latest stock firmware.
Cerhio said:
100% use LineageOS. Performance and battery life life are phenomenal compare to the latest stock firmware.
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I just tested to see how much battery drain will happen when phone is not in use, no sim card, connected to my wifi, with stamina turned off.
It's siting on my desk for 3 days, currently 45% battery left, thats not bad right? i'm sure that with sim card it will be more, but still..
If i go for LOS Can you tell me what version should i go for, for most stable performance? I see there is Stable Release Date: 2017-08-27..
tnx
invisibles said:
I just tested to see how much battery drain will happen when phone is not in use, no sim card, connected to my wifi, with stamina turned off.
It's siting on my desk for 3 days, currently 45% battery left, thats not bad right? i'm sure that with sim card it will be more, but still..
If i go for LOS Can you tell me what version should i go for, for most stable performance? I see there is Stable Release Date: 2017-08-27..
tnx
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Hey, look for the official LineageOS rom. There was an unofficial that was compiled by someone but it seems that he's stopped.
I've recently gotten an Z5 Compact too.
mlleemiles said:
Overheating, bad camera image quality, battery drain, lagging due to old CPU, 2G ram and aggressive throttling..
My advice would be get newer model instead like X Compact or XZ1 Compact if you have higher budget.
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Overall it's a good camera in Z5C.
Camera quality is pretty much same same for Z5 Compact and X Compact, the XZ1 Compact has somewhat better image quality though.
invisibles said:
Well, i bought it already X or XZ1 would be in much higher price range than for what i got.
It's gonna be very very lightweight usage, basic stuff only, so only thing that concerns me is that 'battery drain' after nougat update?
Is that issue fixed with some recent updates or still a problem?
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I haven't noticed any battery draining so far.
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I'm running latest stock rooted. Having overheating and lags when browsing webs..
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I'm running latest stock, not rooted. No overheating or lag whatsoever when browsing the web.

Question Battery standby drain

Hey guys.
Just for the record I am testing the Xperia 1 iv battery drain in standby.
The phone seems to drain over night by 20% that's alot for juice compared to the Google pixel 6 pro or over phones like the oneplus 10 pro etc.
I have started this discussion to see if anyone else here , having drain issues maybe due to the overheating issue to drain battery down but that's only if the phone is using apps that are demand CPU etc.
I will keep testing this ,my thoughts are, thats alot of battery drain for standby mode.
I think Sony my need to do more future firmware updates to address this issue
mine uses some 5-6 % overnight, generally veeeeery happy with battery life.
Maybe you have something running in the background that is killing it. Something that pings the network all the time. What does batt status tells you?
2nd time charging the device is a little better working out 2 percent per hour at present.
Thanks for the reply
Update , latest firmware release August 2022
Has sorted out issues camera overheating issues also standby time 2% p/hr drain.
steelmm said:
Update , latest firmware release August 2022
Has sorted out issues camera overheating issues also standby time 2% p/hr drain.
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Hi could you please give us your build number ? We have 64.0.A.8.25 in Europe, released the 1st of August, thanks .
in that thread* we 've been said , the 64.0.A.8.25 is only a safety one
* https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/xperia-overheating-problem.4467263/
I am on 64.0.A.5.71 Running a dual SIM mode with a digital SIM. I am also rooted with Magisk 25.2. All my Google apps are removed, so my phone runs without Google support. No Facebook or social media apps, also no games. No battery drain happening. It mainly depends on the apps you have pre-installed. Some apps are capable to use mic, or gps in the background even when they are not active. Any unrooted device is a potential privacy, and security risk, specially when you have facebook and google apps installed.
steelmm said:
Update , latest firmware release August 2022
Has sorted out issues camera overheating issues also standby time 2% p/hr drain.
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build number please!!!
The august build
I am getting over eight hours sot. Now also a tip is to calibrate the gaming app to battery prefer and then select samina mode on on all your games
Theae settings on you get no overheating issues also if you play retro games or name it's not too demanding on your CPU.
Also I have social media apps installed over 330 apps including games etc and utils.
No need to root the device at all. Thanks guys
There is a new firmware available. 64.0.A.8.25 I am not going to try it, i don't want to root and reinstall my device from scratch. Mine only have 40 apps installed, mostly root related. Nothing allowed to run on the background, except call recorder. All my apps only have internet access if they are in the foreground, except my banking app and skype , icq . The device does overheat when the camera is active for a while, however I only have it about a week.

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