Why is LG promoting the glass lens? - LG V30 Questions & Answers

Don't most phones use a glass lens anyway? I mean the G6 has a Gorila Glass 4 in the camera area. Or do they use a plastic lens with cover glass, and that's what LG is proud of in the V30, the first with a true glass lens and cover glass?

It’s not the exterior , it’s the lenses inside that make up the entire mechanism. These are all glass and make a difference over using plastic len parts.
Better glass optics produce better results. Same with DSLR lenses.

not all of them, just one of them is glass.
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Not true, all the lenses are glass. Check out there site.
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AB__CD said:
Don't most phones use a glass lens anyway? I mean the G6 has a Gorila Glass 4 in the camera area. Or do they use a plastic lens with cover glass, and that's what LG is proud of in the V30, the first with a true glass lens and cover glass?
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Take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKk7F9uEWJ8&t=104s, it's an interesting video !
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eventhorizon13 said:
Not true, all the lenses are glass. Check out there site
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No. Only one first front lens is glass, others are plastic. But it's improvement, anyways

True. Only one of the multiple internal lenses is glass. The rest are plastic.

zedmarcus said:
True. Only one of the multiple internal lenses is glass. The rest are plastic.
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But it's apparently still different from what all other OEMs do, otherwise LG wouldn't be promoting it so heavily.
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LG V30 will boast wider aperture, ‘world’s clearest’ camera lens
LG V30's camera has the lowest f-stop in a smartphone
LG tells us that the new device, "will include the world’s largest aperture and clearest lens ever to be featured in a smartphone." In real terms, this means that the V30 will, presumably only on the main camera of its dual-cam setup, come with an F1.6 aperture which would be the fastest we have seen on a smartphone camera so far.
In addition, the lens is made form glass instead of the usual plastic materials which, according to LG, delivers improved light transmission over its predecessor and competitors..
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LG is calling it the Crystal Clear Lens, and it will be made out of glass rather than plastic, like those on many other smartphones. As depicted in the image above, it will allow V30 owners to shoot photos and videos that are brighter, sharper, and more colorful than ever before.
In comparison, rival devices like the iPhone 7 boast an f/1.7 aperture. LG says its new camera lets in around 25 percent more light. It’s clear that this will be one of the V30’s biggest selling points, and that LG will be marketing the device at those who want even great camera performance from their smartphone.
“LG boasts an unrivaled heritage in smartphone photography and our decision to adopt glass in the V30 camera is specifically because this has traditionally been the realm of DSLRs,” said Juno Cho, president of LG Mobile. “For the users whom the V series was designed, this kind of innovation is significant”.
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Billy Madison said:
No. Only one first front lens is glass, others are plastic. But it's improvement, anyways
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Oh I stand corrected
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Camera already has minor scratches?!

I just noticed that my camera already has a few minor scratches. As does my screen after like 2 days without a screen protector, what the hell?! I've had this phone for maybe 6 days now and it's already showing wear like this, I honestly don't think this phone is going to hold up for 2 years.
Even though the display glass is in fact Gorilla Glass, that doesn't mean for one second that it's scratch PROOF. Scratch resistant? Yes. Regular glass is also scratch resistant to a wide variety of items, Gorilla Glass is just more resistant, not scratch proof. On both my Captivate and Infuse, both of which have Gorilla Glass, I still accumulated some minor scratches.
Also, the camera lens is probably not Gorilla Glass, so it is even more prone to scratching than your screen.
If you are so worried about it, they do make these things called screen protectors. If you're obsessed with the glass feel, look into the SGP Glas.t glass screen protector, though it is quite expensive at 27 bucks or so. Otherwise, the SGP Ultra Oleophobic has a slippery feel, and is probably as close to the glass feel as you're going to get.
Another good one that I highly recommend is the Realook crystal clear:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/REALOOK-AT-T-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-SGH-I717-screen-protector-Crystal-Clear-2-PK-/260963172366?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cc29e000e#ht_1118wt_905
Same glassy feeling, and 2 for $15, and I find them very easy to apply.
Since you get 2, if your first install goes well, you could also cut out a tiny square for your camera lens.
I've tried literally 20 times to cut out a square camera shaped screen protector and completely ruined all of my extra HTC Desire Z screen protectors trying to make one.
I already bought a new screen protector, I didn't have one on for like 2 days because the one AT&T sold me was complete utter ****.
Well thanks! I just ordered those and realized the case I bought like 4 days ago I never paid for...
Do not let scratches ruin your enjoyment of your device
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Do not let scratches ruin your enjoyment of your device
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Yeah but if they get worse and my pictures look like this 6 months down the line then they'll probably ruin my enjoyment of the device.
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if it is Gorilla Glass, i ain't impressed at all with this stuff. that said, my scratch is my fault, not the inferior G.G. crapola.
if i had a screen protector from the start i'd be golden. same with you m8.

sapphire lens... but it cracked :(

I dont know how but i never dropped my phone. Butthe lens on my camera cracked. How the hell? They marketed it as sapphire. Why?
yonba said:
I dont know how but i never dropped my phone. Butthe lens on my camera cracked. How the hell? They marketed it as sapphire. Why?
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Its a glass, not bullet proof glass.. Thank god you didn't crack the front glass..
Jishnu Sur™ said:
Its a glass, not bullet proof glass.. Thank god you didn't crack the front glass..
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But im careful with my things. I never dropped this. Hell my nokia phone c2-00 dual sim fell 6ft to the hard marble floor but it is still fine...
look what I found:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46252774
so sapphire isnt that good at all, yes?
one possible reason probably is that i am always fingering the volume up button. im using the international version btw where the lens an dthe button is flat and too close to each other. this is a flaw to the design. but it's sapphire it shouldnt crack like that.
It magically cracked :-\ that's what they all say.
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shook187 said:
It magically cracked :-\ that's what they all say.
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the point is, for a high end phone with camera lens that cracks on a normal day to day use is not good LG should look into this. If it is heat related, then definitely they should all recall the unit and replace the international version with the Verizon's version. My nokia is still alive after 10+ landings on hard floor.
Well of course it can brake. Everything brakes. The main point of sapphire on lens glass as I believe is that it is very scratch resistant.
yonba said:
the point is, for a high end phone with camera lens that cracks on a normal day to day use is not good LG should look into this. If it is heat related, then definitely they should all recall the unit and replace the international version with the Verizon's version. My nokia is still alive after 10+ landings on hard floor.
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One case out of thousands and thousands will not cause a company to look into anything. It might have just had a defect.
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GG
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Impact break. Left side.
And this crack is from a normal day to day use?...
Not in my opinion. That is definitely not a flaw or internal pressure break. Something hit it, pressed very hard on that one area, or focused pressure on that area.
Its always in my pocket. Probably twisted because sometime when i talk the nillkin case off it sounded like its gonna snap. Lg support in ph wont cover it though. I guess im gonna pay to have the glass replaced. But i can live with this becausd image wuality is not aggected. It just looks ugly.
They are right for not covering it. It is visually end user fault. Can't be to expensive to get it replaced.

Scratches over camera lens?

Is there anyone here besides me having these tiny scratches on camera lens? i really doubt that claim of LG that the camera lens is protected with sapphire glass. my phone is totally scratchless even after 2 months of use without any protector, but only the camera lens has got the scratches which is funny as well as annoying or me. though it doesnt make any affect on the camera quality after all but still its so confusing for me that why is it having scratches.
Please see the picture and suggest the way out to remove these scratches or what would be the reason behind them, i have used my set with utmost care.
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I have these issues
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Not only that but after time it will get worst eventually all pictures seem to have a nice blur glowing affect
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Oooh, those are serious scratches. Did you run an angle grinder on that? I have one thin scratch with normal use after 6 months
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shiftnd said:
Oooh, those are serious scratches. Did you run an angle grinder on that? I have one thin scratch with normal use after 6 months
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i have done nothing wrong, i wear comfort fit jeans mostly which are very loose, nothing in my pocket it is really annoying that on one hand LG claims that its a sapphire glass and on the other hand i have these scratches.
Boy those are some scratches indeed. Can it be it's due to sand or something?
For 6 months i have spotless glass on the camera.
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THAT is not normal, go RMA your G2
i have found a better way, the picture quality of my phone was not runied till now, i have applied a transparent sticker on the camera lens and the quality is more or less the same. xD its protected now means the scratches wont increase in number, but still...LG whats this :S
It's a little late for this advice now, but a case would have prevented those. The camera is not quite flush with the back, but pretty close. Setting the phone down on the back or having it slide up against anything abrasive could account for scratches like that. Even being in your pocket can cause that kind of stuff. The lens on my last phone rendered the whole camera useless because of the scratches and that lens never saw anything but the inside of my pocket or open air. Unless you have microfiber lined pockets then you can't really say they aren't scratching your lens. Those don't look like normal pocket scratches though. They almost look like someone tried wiping fingerprints off the lens with something that was too coarse. Maybe a zipper hit it or something like that. Anyway, a case would set the lens a little deeper and away from things that could hurt it. I'm thinking that going forward if you want to prevent more damage then you should look into something like that.
This is the only thing preventing me from buying this phone : (
Same issue here, mine scratches are even worse. Photo quality is still good but when there is a lot of light coming through a window or something, the light gets very fuzzy and intense.
No scratches after couple of months.
My phone is flawless and always been in a case but I too have camera lens scratches, never had a scratched lens before even on my Evo... Something is not right with this supposed Sapphire glass.
Could it be that it is just oleophobic layer that is worn off? Very common with all the phones generating these types of threads.
I know for a fact that oleophobic coat on the front screen, indeed does not last very long, resulting in uneven look, where you are touching mostly.
Once all the coating is gone, with time, all is fine again.
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Idan73 said:
Could it be that it is just oleophobic layer that is worn off? Very common with all the phones generating these types of threads.
I know for a fact that oleophobic coat on the front screen, indeed does not last very long, resulting in uneven look, where you are touching mostly.
Once all the coating is gone, with time, all is fine again.
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How do you remove the remaining oleophobic coat?
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MADNJPN said:
This is the only thing preventing me from buying this phone : (
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Yeah, sure.....you are buying phone not a wife.
MADNJPN said:
This is the only thing preventing me from buying this phone : (
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Men, you all so pathetic. Seems as you all wear halo or nimbus above your saint brow. Meh.
this man said it right "you are buying phone not a wife" :good:
Billy Madison
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Well you see this phone costs alot here even 16GB version so this kind of thing makes me think many times before doing something. But I don't see any other phone to be better alternative to my Z1 so I will buy it probably ...
LG G2
here's what happened on my LG G2
phone did not come into contact with anything sharp
whether there is a guarantee for this
or how much it costs replacement
images are now pale and lack sharpness as previously
just removed a layer of paint is not scratched glass
sorry for my bad english
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rajko34 said:
here's what happened on my LG G2
phone did not come into contact with anything sharp
whether there is a guarantee for this
or how much it costs replacement
images are now pale and lack sharpness as previously
just removed a layer of paint is not scratched glass
sorry for my bad english
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Wow! Just.....wow! What happend?
Was there a paint smudge on the glass and you removed it?

Sapphire Glass

I was just watching a video of the keynote in India and the Huawei presenter announced that the glass covering rear camera is sapphire glass ....is this true because that is wonderful news ...haven't heard that anywhere else
https://youtu.be/QF06lvB86w0
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adsam3927 said:
I was just watching a video of the keynote in India and the Huawei presenter announced that the glass covering rear camera is sapphire glass ....is this true because that is wonderful news ...haven't heard that anywhere else
https://youtu.be/QF06lvB86w0
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I believe all /most lenses are sapphire. A lot of times on phones they are behind plastic, though. On the 6P the entire back visor is gorilla glass 4.
Why would he bother mentioning the lens being sapphire and being scratch proof if its behind GG4 ?
I think when he said lens he was actually talking about this entire rear glass panel.
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Why would he bother mentioning the lens being sapphire and being scratch proof if its behind GG4 ?
I think when he said lens he was actually talking about this entire rear glass panel.
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The glass panel is gorilla glass 4 though.
I believe this was even confirmed by Google at the Google event.
confirmed it is GG4 per Reddit AMA
The camera lens is separated from the "back visor"
Pobably the camers lens is sapphire and the other part of the visor is GG4.
But that is my point.. When the lens is protected at the back by the glass why bother using a sapphire lens
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adsam3927 said:
But that is my point.. When the lens is protected at the back by the glass why bother using a sapphire lens
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That's like saying why bother with a metal built phone if most people use a case..... ????
Good one
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Lol - and in 1 one of the latest Indian videos they say it's plastic!
Go figure!
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Lol - and in 1 one of the latest Indian videos they say it's plastic!
Go figure!
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I don't know how many of these people even get invited to these events - I see them using the device & they all look like they've never used an Android Phone before.
Seeing a user constantly clicking the home button when they are already home, I've even seen videos of them not even knowing how to get into the camera settings lol
Lol...To be fair this was the First Nexus launch event in India.
Group seems to be a mix of Jr news channel reporters & budding you tubers
For Indians price & offers was the main slide rest most of the 6p enthusiasts here would know more about the device then those reporters.
Google must have told Huawei & LG to use some big keywords & they would have been confused where to place which keyword....
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Lol...To be fair this was the First Nexus launch event in India.
Group seems to be a mix of Jr news channel reporters & budding you tubers
For Indians price & offers was the main slide rest most of the 6p enthusiasts here would know more about the device then those reporters.
Google must have told Huawei & LG to use some big keywords & they would have been confused where to place which keyword....
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I agree....after watching those Indian press events and so called "unboxings" I quickly started to realize they were spitting out incorrect info. Stuff like the lens confusion/misinterpretation and they also call the screen superamoled which it is not. It's only amoled. The"super" part in the name is not just Samsung's naming convention/marketing of the screen......it's actually different technology(subpixels) versus regular amoled technology.
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The"super" part in the name is not just Samsung's naming convention/marketing of the screen......it's actually different technology(subpixels) versus regular amoled technology.
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Ehm... No.
As of now, every AMOLED display is built like the Samsung's SuperAMOLED, making "SuperAMOLED" just the name of Samsung-branded AMOLED displays.
The "different technology" about subpixels you are talking about is SuperAMOLED Plus (that has RGB matrix instead of PenTile).
It is according to Huawei also.
http://www.gethuawei.com/nexus6p
OK, so the camera lens is sapphire crystal, behind a gorilla glass panel.
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Lol - and in 1 one of the latest Indian videos they say it's plastic!
Go figure!
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haha listening to those were terrible. I think a lot of things were lost in translation or they were didn't know what they were talking about half the time.
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Ehm... No.
As of now, every AMOLED display is built like the Samsung's SuperAMOLED, making "SuperAMOLED" just the name of Samsung-branded AMOLED displays.
The "different technology" about subpixels you are talking about is SuperAMOLED Plus (that has RGB matrix instead of PenTile).
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You are right and Google even confirmed the N6P uses the latest gen Samsung amoled screen.
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OK, so the camera lens is sapphire crystal, behind a gorilla glass panel.
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Nope.
The GG4 has a "hole" in front of the camera, where there's the sapphire glass. The GG4 is "around" the sapphire, not above it
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Nope.
The GG4 has a "hole" in front of the camera, where there's the sapphire glass. The GG4 is "around" the sapphire, not above it
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Not sure I get what you mean - it seems to be one piece on the pics I've seen, and I'm not sure what you said matches with what is described on Huawei's website. Do you mean that the camera assembly sticks out of the GG4 top panel thingy (or sits flush with it)?
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Crafted from aeronautical-grade anodized aluminum, the new Nexus sports the curves and contours of a machine built for turning heads. Diamond chamfers encircle its edges, and the new visor on the back of the device accents the low-light-loving, 12.3 MP, sapphire- crystal lens camera.
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Looks like 1 solid GG4 piece with the camera underneith the glass. The only thing sticking out or cut out is the flash.
This could be a render of the phone and not the phone itself though... so. *shrug*

Fit and Finish

Anyone noticed any fit and finish 'issues'?
I've noticed that the primary camera is not centered relative to the bezel. Doesn't impact capability/performance, but is unexpected for a phone at this price point.
I can also call out the glass to metal frame interface is not "seamless". There's a growing accumulation of dust that is not easy to remove.
Any others noting these sort of things?
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Anyone noticed any fit and finish 'issues'?
I've noticed that the primary camera is not centered relative to the bezel. Doesn't impact capability/performance, but is unexpected for a phone at this price point.
I can also call out the glass to metal frame interface is not "seamless". There's a growing accumulation of dust that is not easy to remove.
Any others noting these sort of things?
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I just just my phone. I don't go out of my way to notice defects.
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I just just my phone. I don't go out of my way to notice defects.
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Bully for you!
tmknight said:
Anyone noticed any fit and finish 'issues'?
I've noticed that the primary camera is not centered relative to the bezel. Doesn't impact capability/performance, but is unexpected for a phone at this price point.
I can also call out the glass to metal frame interface is not "seamless". There's a growing accumulation of dust that is not easy to remove.
Any others noting these sort of things?
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I own three of these phones and don't notice such things, no. Two V30 and V30+.
The two cameras are proportionally centered over the back fingerprint sensor, as they should be. So, I don't see what you are talking about.
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The dust/water resistance on this phone is IP68 (higher than Apple's iPhones, higher than Google's Pixel XL) -- so your dust is not getting into the phone. The 6 is for dust, the 8 is for water.
Devices backed by an international standard rating of IP68 are deemed fit enough to withstand dust, dirt and sand, and are resistant to submersion up to a maximum depth of 1.5m underwater for up to thirty minutes.
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If you have any accumulated dust, you can always wash it off under the faucet.
No need for the product sales pitch - this is not my first premium phone and I've done my share of studying over my decade + on these forums. This was meant as a harmless question. Sorry to kick everyone's dog on this. Very glad to hear I'm the only one with these QC items.
Back to your caves.
Cheers
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