Just some questions... - Sony Xperia XZ1 Questions & Answers

Hi, I'm pretty undecided between this and the V30, I'm mainly on the XZ1 for less problems but I would like to know some other things.
So, how's the phone behavior in low signal area? V30, like G6, have terrible battery drain due to the continuous switching between all the possible networks...
Also, do you se the display grill?

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[DISCUSSION] GSM Chip Is The Problem For Battery Drain?

Hi Brothers and Sisters,
I am opening this thread because i need some clarification on why we have so much battery drain on our x10 mini pros.
I have x10 mini pro, using nAa's kernel and rom (latest). I have seen lots of things in this phone and OS and they are working very good. but we all have battery issues and mine goes out soon as i start talking. it's like every 2 minutes or so the battery loses 1% of its juice. and using internet like edge network, or to make it even worse, hsdpa kills it instantly.
I ever thought that SE made the wrong choice of using its gsm communication chips for phones like these. because i see samsung and other rivals compete and they have good battery life even after a 1 or 2 hour talk.
And yes i know it all depends on the network coverage and how much signal strength is available, but the xperia series itself (old 2010 models) are much bad in this case. after i have a one hour of talking nearly 40-50% of charge is gone down. nothing like that happens if i listen to music loudly or play games or even read something. But using internet and calls make the big hit.
Resetting the battery stats doesnt make any sense. i have used at least all the roms here in the forum and i wonder, it ain't the rom's fault, it is the communication chip (i.e the gsm/radio chip) that is on board. That consumes the battery madly.
The matter continues on the newer series too. and they (even the mini and mini pro 2011 versions) have 4 hours talktime. what is going on?
Is SE using any flawed chips that are wasted somewhere?
Has anyone thought about this on what i am talking about? My phone is just one year old now. and everything is fine. except for this battery drain.
Has anyone have any thoughts about this matter? Please share it here if you like
This is just an open discussion, not a question and answer.

[Q] Q - Optimize Radio Signal App

Hi everyone,
i realized that battery consumption on my g2 mini is mainly due to 2g/3g/4g signal/data connectivity. I am not saying that battery is terrible, but given the capacity and screen PPI, it should give more autonomy. I did some research and found a lot of stuff about WakeLocks, but thats just tiny part i guess. I think that the most battery hungry is radio antenna while searching/switching between towers.
So the question is, is there a way to optimize signal search/switch? Thanks

upgrading to Poco f1

A little off topic but any inputs on upgrading from le max 2 to poco f1. I mean is it really an upgrade considering the FHD+ screen. Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks
Well, only the SD845 should be a big upgrade, consider as well the normal working fingerprint scanner, IR face unlock, stereo speakers, much bigger battery, and more. I would not even think too much.
Yep, seems like the natural upgrade. Though I'm still more than happy with my Max2. It's blazing fast enough, great camera, loads of Pie roms,
I dunno, poco have some display problems..
I did the upgrade recently, so I could share at least what was driving me to do the upgrade.
For about 18 or maybe more months I was owning X820 and ever since I have tried only few Roms. My final choice was RR.
It was more than enough for my day to day use, camera was excellent. Why I did the change :
1) Battery life - even do I have 20000mah power bank with QC 3.0, battery did not last a day even with light to moderate usage.
2) Got used to it and wanted a new toy.
Already use a Poco F1 for about a month (bought in on announcement day in Europe, originally from Spain).
Battery life is overwhelming compared to X820. It's a bit faster, but nothing that really affects the experience with the old X820.
Stock rom is much better than X820, but this one is easily fixable.
Downsides :
Android Auto does not work in current Poco F1 stock rom
Camera seems to be about average, daily pictures on X820 are better (good light conditions).
Overall it's a good phone, so if you want a change and think where to spend 300E go for it.
I like poco too, but it has lte bands locked for my country
Guys... it's worth buying this phone (le max 2 X821) for 130 usd??...
(Sorry for the off topic)
xrigoss said:
Guys... it's worth buying this phone (le max 2 X821) for 130 usd??...
(Sorry for the off topic)
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If it's new, then jump on it. I've enjoyed mine for about 18. Personally I'm gonna hold on to mine for a while yet.
I just placed the order, it costs 124$ for 64/4 x821, i hope it is not refubrished.
@onewithforce I have one question, can you see the notifications on status bar? Like WhatsApp or viber.
And about battery percent, can you see in status bar?
That big notch with lose of this functionality is the only thing that scares me :-/
Fabio Bertelli said:
@onewithforce I have one question, can you see the notifications on status bar? Like WhatsApp or viber.
And about battery percent, can you see in status bar?
That big notch with lose of this functionality is the only thing that scares me :-/
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Notifications are highly customizeable. Percentage can be seen in notification bar, it's not important feature for me and haven't checked if it can be enabled for home and locked screen.
Notch is fine, quickly get used to it.
Btw, Android Auto does not work properly, we have to wait for next release and have fingers crossed it would be solved.

Very low battery life on the LG V30 with a 94% battery health

Hello to all
sorry in advance for my english, I see on all the discussions that all the world is very satisfied with the life of the battery, I would like to understand how you do to have a SOT so high from 6h to 8h, me never exceed 4 hours of SOT, my v30 is a H931 converted to H933 oreo then Pie ,
configuration :
- non-root system
- android stock rom pie
- dark theme
- SRTC deactivates,
-use "YouTube, social networks,
-occasional maps,
-very few games
-4G connection in large part of the time and some wifi
-automatic brightness
the state of my battery is 94% and I have reset or gone through LGup nothing is don't change,
when I activate the 4g or the wifi the battery melts like snow in the sun
Help me
Take a screenshot of the Battery screen in settings and post it here. This is a good place to start looking for what is draining the battery.
You can also use other apps to see what usage is (I use Accubattery, for example, and it tells me I have an average SOT of 7:39. Keep in mind, this is a calculated average, not a real time... but it gives you an idea. Beyond that, you can see what your usage is. I'm down to 87% after about 4 hours of usage today, and it's telling me that 10% is due to a game I played this morning, which makes sense.
schwinn8 said:
Take a screenshot of the Battery screen in settings and post it here. This is a good place to start looking for what is draining the battery.
You can also use other apps to see what usage is (I use Accubattery, for example, and it tells me I have an average SOT of 7:39. Keep in mind, this is a calculated average, not a real time... but it gives you an idea. Beyond that, you can see what your usage is. I'm down to 87% after about 4 hours of usage today, and it's telling me that 10% is due to a game I played this morning, which makes sense.
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I also use Accubattery, and I add the screenshot as an attachment,
but I don't understand why the battery drains when I use the 3G / 4G connection or the wifi,
by exomple
if I do not deactivate the 4g or the wifi at night I lose 15% to 20% easy, I do not know what to do even when the phone is on us998 it is the same thing
None of the attachments appear to be working?
I have heard people have issues with Pie. Have you tried going back to Oreo to see how it fares? Be careful to follow instructions when you do this - I have heard there are issues when you do this (ie, you may have to KDZ back to Nougat before going forward to Oreo).
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None of the attachments appear to be working?
I have heard people have issues with Pie. Have you tried going back to Oreo to see how it fares? Be careful to follow instructions when you do this - I have heard there are issues when you do this (ie, you may have to KDZ back to Nougat before going forward to Oreo).
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i was on us998 oreo, it was the same thing no diferance it was even worse, that's why I follow part on h933 oreo then pie to see if it's the same thing, but nothing is change
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I'm not a French speaker/reader so I'll do my best. Looks like Facebook is taking a large amount - on you 71% battery level, it's taking 10%.
Similarly, on your screen utilization, you have 31%, and you say you have dark mode active (which I don't). So, I'm not sure why you have so much usage.
I would start by removing Facebook and seeing if that helps. Some people just use it a lot, and so you'll have more drain there. My wife used to use it a lot, but I have since switched her to using Metal, which works MUCH better and isn't as much of a privacy risk either. Some apps are just heavy, and Facebook has (historically) been awful... which is why we don't have it on either of our phones.
Next time you run down the battery, show us the app usage in Battery and Accubattery if possible. Also would be good to see the rest of the screen (scroll down) so we can see if there's anything else going on.
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I'm not a French speaker/reader so I'll do my best. Looks like Facebook is taking a large amount - on you 71% battery level, it's taking 10%.
Similarly, on your screen utilization, you have 31%, and you say you have dark mode active (which I don't). So, I'm not sure why you have so much usage.
I would start by removing Facebook and seeing if that helps. Some people just use it a lot, and so you'll have more drain there. My wife used to use it a lot, but I have since switched her to using Metal, which works MUCH better and isn't as much of a privacy risk either. Some apps are just heavy, and Facebook has (historically) been awful... which is why we don't have it on either of our phones.
Next time you run down the battery, show us the app usage in Battery and Accubattery if possible. Also would be good to see the rest of the screen (scroll down) so we can see if there's anything else going on.
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Hello
Here I did what you told me, I deleted facebook and I took screenshots for daily use and then I deactivate the dark mode and nothing is the same thing
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All those images are locked behind a password. I can request each one, but that would be slow and annoying to do. Please share them publicly or via the other system you used before. then I will be able to see and suggest more if I have any other ideas.
Also, just to go back, you said you're on Pie now. How did you get to this, exactly? I have read of issues with flashing improperly. @ChazzMatt maybe be able to explain better, but this could be the root of the problem. I think you had to go to Nougat first, then flash in a very specific way to Pie. Was this process followed?
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All those images are locked behind a password. I can request each one, but that would be slow and annoying to do. Please share them publicly or via the other system you used before. then I will be able to see and suggest more if I have any other ideas.
Also, just to go back, you said you're on Pie now. How did you get to this, exactly? I have read of issues with flashing improperly. @ChazzMatt maybe be able to explain better, but this could be the root of the problem. I think you had to go to Nougat first, then flash in a very specific way to Pie. Was this process followed?
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for the images I have hosted them other by it's good
and for the little story, my v30 was on h93120a
I converted it to us99810b then us99820h with the ChazzMatt method, but the battery was not terrible, but I follow it stayed like its about 6 months, well when pie came out I tried to update I blocked on the logo lg then I follow back on h99820h, then I saw that some person converted their us998 to h93330k I did the same thing with the ChazzMatt method through nougat and then pie
by the way that its could improve but nothing, in the end the discharge during the night is better
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So, just doing some quick math, your battery screen shows about 72% usage with apps you have shown, and you have 15% battery left which totals 87%. There's 13% "missing" but that's not too surprising (I have never found the battery usage to be 100% accurate). That said, it looks like you're just a heavy user? My wife uses her phone hard as well - she has brightness turned relatively bright all the time. In comparison, my phone I leave relatively low (I'm at 26% brightness in my room right now, with automatic adjustment turned on. I'm almost never at full-bright). Neither of us runs dark-mode.
Maybe that's the issue - do you have your brightness high?
Your last screenshot also shows 17% utilization for the cell service, even though it's inactive. That might explain some of the missing 13% from above. It also seems a little high. If you have low signal in your area, I have found this can use a lot of battery too. I see no-bars in your screenshots, and also low-wifi. Both of these can hurt too.
As you can see, I'm guessing at this point... and I don't have many more ideas. But I think you're close to "normal"... just that you're a heavier user and have a bright screen setting?
schwinn8 said:
So, just doing some quick math, your battery screen shows about 72% usage with apps you have shown, and you have 15% battery left which totals 87%. There's 13% "missing" but that's not too surprising (I have never found the battery usage to be 100% accurate). That said, it looks like you're just a heavy user? My wife uses her phone hard as well - she has brightness turned relatively bright all the time. In comparison, my phone I leave relatively low (I'm at 26% brightness in my room right now, with automatic adjustment turned on. I'm almost never at full-bright). Neither of us runs dark-mode.
Maybe that's the issue - do you have your brightness high?
Your last screenshot also shows 17% utilization for the cell service, even though it's inactive. That might explain some of the missing 13% from above. It also seems a little high. If you have low signal in your area, I have found this can use a lot of battery too. I see no-bars in your screenshots, and also low-wifi. Both of these can hurt too.
As you can see, I'm guessing at this point... and I don't have many more ideas. But I think you're close to "normal"... just that you're a heavier user and have a bright screen setting?
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for the brightness it is automatic I do not touch it, and for the SOT I have never exceeded 4:30 (and it is very rare that I am a SOT that exceeds 4 hours) I voice people who say that it s arrives to have 8 hours of SOT "even 9h to 10h" for some, I told myself that my phone had a real problem of autonomy
Even if you don't touch the brightness, it does "learn" from what you prefer. So, you should adjust it to your needs. Ideally the less bright the better.
I checked my wife's phone, and she gets an average of about 5 hours on her phone. I think you (and her) just use it a lot and use it with the screen brighter than I do (or other people with high SOT). I do think using dark mode would help you... I should try that with my wife's phone, but she likes what she likes, so she may not want to change it, which is fine too.
In the end, after all this looking, I don't think there is anything wrong with your phone. If you're looking for high SOT, turn down the brightness as low as you can go, and use dark mode. I don't think there is much more you can do. Maybe custom kernels or ROMs can help, but I haven't had luck with that in the past, so I don't bother.
Of course if anyone else ideas, please let us know... I am not an expert!
schwinn8 said:
Even if you don't touch the brightness, it does "learn" from what you prefer. So, you should adjust it to your needs. Ideally the less bright the better.
I checked my wife's phone, and she gets an average of about 5 hours on her phone. I think you (and her) just use it a lot and use it with the screen brighter than I do (or other people with high SOT). I do think using dark mode would help you... I should try that with my wife's phone, but she likes what she likes, so she may not want to change it, which is fine too.
In the end, after all this looking, I don't think there is anything wrong with your phone. If you're looking for high SOT, turn down the brightness as low as you can go, and use dark mode. I don't think there is much more you can do. Maybe custom kernels or ROMs can help, but I haven't had luck with that in the past, so I don't bother.
Of course if anyone else ideas, please let us know... I am not an expert!
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thank you very much for your help i will try advised calf and return the answer to you
jassim0104 said:
Hello to all
sorry in advance for my english, I see on all the discussions that all the world is very satisfied with the life of the battery, I would like to understand how you do to have a SOT so high from 6h to 8h, me never exceed 4 hours of SOT, my v30 is a H931 converted to H933 oreo then Pie ,
configuration :
- non-root system
- android stock rom pie
- dark theme
- SRTC deactivates,
-use "YouTube, social networks,
-occasional maps,
-very few games
-4G connection in large part of the time and some wifi
-automatic brightness
the state of my battery is 94% and I have reset or gone through LGup nothing is don't change,
when I activate the 4g or the wifi the battery melts like snow in the sun
Help me
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It's very simple downgrade to latest oreo i get 6+ sot on oreo and only 4 on pie
messi2050 said:
It's very simple downgrade to latest oreo i get 6+ sot on oreo and only 4 on pie
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the problem is that with oreo it was worse than on pie, the battery did not even hold the day, it is for this that I passed pie

Question OP8T to P6

So, I'm eyeing that Best Buy offer for Verizon Pixel 6. I'm thinking of upgrading my mother's OP8T to a pixel 6, she keeps complaining of the OP8T overheating and restarting randomly even during periods at night when the phone isn't even in use. (I personally haven't tried to test these problems). Are there any quirks for the Pixel 6 I should be worried about (ie 5G connectivity, battery drain, random restarts, overheating, etc).
Outside of some minor issues caused by my own tinkering with root, I've had no issues with this thing. Battery life is fantastic (with moderate usage it's usually still over 75% at the end of the day, with Adaptive Battery off), no random reboots, no overheating, signal seems good. There was talk of problems with the fingerprint sensor, but those seem to have been fixed - no issues with that here either. I have had it noticeably heat up a bit during intensive multitasking and during updates, but never enough to be a problem, and that's with it in a silicone case that probably traps heat.
You don't plan on rooting it, right? If you had any intention of doing so (for adblocking, etc) do note the Verizon variant is permanently bootloader locked, afaik.

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