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Hi Everyone! Huawei P20 was just launched today, looking at the specs --- I can't see much difference besides the Camera, do you think its possible to port its camera and so called "Master AI"?
Thanks!
Why only the camera? It should be possible to port over all of the software.
I think that Huawei should really provide an upgrade to 8.1 and all of the new software functionality. Pretty horrible to release a flagship phone and 6 months later simply forget about it.
Update: The camera app seems to be already available in a leak, see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro/how-to/firmware-leak-t3760517
I'm pretty sure the mate 10 will get 8.1 in the next few months
tmzbeme said:
I'm pretty sure the mate 10 will get 8.1 in the next few months
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****few months .... ya but in a few months android 9 will be released and maybe we will get it in april 2019! I don't like Huawei updates nor sammy's ... i really hope nokia will release a proper flagship soon... android one is the way....
Mate 9 never got EMUI 5.1 / Android 7.1 that came out with P10 and P10 Pro
Relax, this is the first phone that gets android 8.1+ NNAPI integration and not just a simple 8.1 like nokia and essential did. Basically as the guy said above with the leaks, all of the new features of the P20 are coming to us and that takes some time to implement. Granted our brand new mate 10 pro aka huawei's flagship feels obsolate, outdated and lacking in hardware compared to the P20 series(speakers, wireless charge, bigger sensor, laser) but that will soon change in some part with android 8.1.. Hold your wallets and do patiense like we all do
Aethergr said:
Relax, this is the first phone that gets android 8.1+ NNAPI integration and not just a simple 8.1 like nokia and essential did. Basically as the guy said above with the leaks, all of the new features of the P20 are coming to us and that takes some time to implement. Granted our brand new mate 10 pro aka huawei's flagship feels obsolate, outdated and lacking in hardware compared to the P20 series(speakers, wireless charge, bigger sensor, laser) but that will soon change in some part with android 8.1.. Hold your wallets and do patiense like we all do
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How do you know all the new features of the P20 will come to the Mate 10?
@tboy2000: Huawei Mate 10 to get P20 AI features with Android 8.1
We have internal beta builds of 8.1 for the Mate 10 (non-Pro Chinese version) so they are being developed.
That being said, with the Mate 9 we also had internal builds of EMUI 5.1, but it was never released.
Most likely time to get the enhancements publicly is when Android P rolls out.
cyvr1 said:
@tboy2000: Huawei Mate 10 to get P20 AI features with Android 8.1
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Thanks. So it's not 'all the new features' of the P20. It's just some extra AI scenes. He did not confirm face unlock, super slow motion, AIS, etc etc
tboy2000 said:
Thanks. So it's not 'all the new features' of the P20. It's just some extra AI scenes. He did not confirm face unlock, super slow motion, AIS, etc etc
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Ofc its NOT ALL THE FEATURES of the P20, because some of them are hardware dependent, which Mate 10 Pro don`t have
smilirulz said:
Ofc its NOT ALL THE FEATURES of the P20, because some of them are hardware dependent, which Mate 10 Pro don`t have
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I was just quoting Aethergr who said "all the features". I know some features are hardware dependant. Ok?
mrabcx said:
Why only the camera? It should be possible to port over all of the software.
I think that Huawei should really provide an upgrade to 8.1 and all of the new software functionality. Pretty horrible to release a flagship phone and 6 months later simply forget about it.
Update: The camera app seems to be already available in a leak, see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro/how-to/firmware-leak-t3760517
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Has anyone tried to flash this camera?
kazprotos said:
Mate 9 never got EMUI 5.1 / Android 7.1 that came out with P10 and P10 Pro
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P10/P10Plus never got Android 7.1, I don't know what world you live in, but in our world neither P10 Pro nor ANY Huawei P/Mate with OEM Android 7.1 exists.
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smilirulz said:
Ofc its NOT ALL THE FEATURES of the P20, because some of them are hardware dependent, which Mate 10 Pro don`t have
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Actually NONE of the P20 AI features is hardware dependent compared to Mate 10/Pro, AIS is a software solution, it just needed to account for OIS which isn't hard. P20 Pro is a different story.
levizx said:
P10/P10Plus never got Android 7.1, I don't know what world you live in, but in our world neither P10 Pro nor ANY Huawei P/Mate with OEM Android 7.1 exists.
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Actually NONE of the P20 AI features is hardware dependent compared to Mate 10/Pro, AIS is a software solution, it just needed to account for OIS which isn't hard. P20 Pro is a different story.
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think again the option to record in 960 fps is hardware dependent along with a few other modes
Is it working on mate 10?
Camera was 'ported' (it works simply by replacing hwcamera2 in /product/app/) right after firmware was leaked.
Here's a Magisk module if anyone wants it: https://mega.nz/#!peB21LaS!BS_5OIn6_eG4U8PRZCEzd6wdZCftANdHiIyZbFTiE8k
ante0 said:
Camera was 'ported' (it works simply by replacing hwcamera2 in /product/app/) right after firmware was leaked.
Here's a Magisk module if anyone wants it: https://mega.nz/#!peB21LaS!BS_5OIn6_eG4U8PRZCEzd6wdZCftANdHiIyZbFTiE8k
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Waiting for this, you are a bit late here to share the magisk for camera but a big thanks for you.
k4fari said:
Waiting for this, you are a bit late here to share the magisk for camera but a big thanks for you.
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I saw this thread today
The P20 Camera app looks nicer at least
Hello, I was interested flashing the port however I'm kinda stuck whether if I root my phone (includes unlocking bootloader) will I still be able to receive and flash updates thru the updates checker? Or every time update is installed, I'll have to reroot it again. Recently came from note 3, flashing and doing things in Huawei are kinda different. I bricked my Note 3 several times and used odin tons of times so makes me think twice before doing things bec not much of stock firmware is available for flashing
Honor view 10 was an excellent device but it had no eis so i skipped it. so i want to know if this honor 10 has eis or not bcs i am really interested in this device.
Sandhusaab said:
Honor view 10 was an excellent device but it had no eis so i skipped it. so i want to know if this honor 10 has eis or not bcs i am really interested in this device.
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NO
Sandhusaab said:
Honor view 10 was an excellent device but it had no eis so i skipped it. so i want to know if this honor 10 has eis or not bcs i am really interested in this device.
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I think there's EIS support in Gcam app. Although not sure how well it works.
mike_bravo said:
I think there's EIS support in Gcam app. Although not sure how well it works.
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it crashes alot in non snapdragon devices. i can only click photos using gcam app on my honor 8 pro and nothing else.
It is not sure if EIS is present in the Honor 10, considering it has the same "AI 2.0" as in the Huawei P20 series. But giving AI based IS on a sub €500 phone would make the P20 series less marketable, considering they share the same market
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It is not sure if EIS is present in the Honor 10, considering it has the same "AI 2.0" as in the Huawei P20 series. But giving AI based IS on a sub €500 phone would make the P20 series less marketable, considering they share the same market
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yes i agree but i am pretty surprised by the fact that honor 8 pro had eis in both front and back camera but its succesors are not having. also huawei phones used to have double tap to wake earlier but they removed it. dont know why
Hello everyone...
I saw an article on google feed it says that:-
'' The Huawei*Mate 10*series will be the first to receive the GPU Turbo update. Huawei’s GPU Turbo increases the processing power of the GPU by up to 60% while reducing power consumption by 30%.
Since most of*Huawei’s devices use in-house chipsets, they have found a way to push the feature to its other phones via a software update. The update will arrive on the Mate 10 by the end of this month.''
'' Huawei also announced some new features coming to the Mate 10. First, the Mate 10 series will support cloud computing starting June 26. It will then receive the EMUI 8.1 update in mid-July which will bring 960fps slow-motion recording.''
The link is here:-
https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/06/...-turbo-mate-10-to-get-960fps-slow-motion-too/
Sardar0131 said:
Hello everyone...
I saw an article on google feed it says that:-
'' The Huawei*Mate 10*series will be the first to receive the GPU Turbo update. Huawei’s GPU Turbo increases the processing power of the GPU by up to 60% while reducing power consumption by 30%.
Since most of*Huawei’s devices use in-house chipsets, they have found a way to push the feature to its other phones via a software update. The update will arrive on the Mate 10 by the end of this month.''
'' Huawei also announced some new features coming to the Mate 10. First, the Mate 10 series will support cloud computing starting June 26. It will then receive the EMUI 8.1 update in mid-July which will bring 960fps slow-motion recording.''
The link is here:-
https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/06/...-turbo-mate-10-to-get-960fps-slow-motion-too/
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I saw that too but im checking firmware finder and there is no any firmware that included those yet. I hope we get it as soon as possible
I believe its true as seen it in more than one place
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Well for slowmo i dont really care. Il probably use it once and forget about it. As for gpu boost, they were looking for testers for mate 10 pro on chineese forum the other day. Im fine with the phone the way it is, but its always nice to be surprised like this.
I would like to have fixed current issues and hope it will with 8.1 (Stereo inverted bug on record / Rotation of home screen / Video Quality from camera)
They want to concentrate on fixing all the things that are broken or currently missing from our mate 10 and also meet there current missed promises about updates rather than promise more
So looks like we will get the GPU Booster, additional AI Camera scenes, Nightime steady shot, we just got face unlock, all we need now is the new portrait lighting mode and the AR avatars from P20 Pro and we should be on par with the P20 Pro.
Meh.
Europeans.
Huawei mate 10 ALP-AL00 6Gb 128Gb recibir ayer android 8.1
Ayer recibí actualización directa a android 8.1.0 en telefono Huawei mate 10 6Gb 128GB
Compilación: 8.1.0.350 (C00patech01) GPU TURBO
I googled everywhere, but can't seems to to find anything on it. Is it possible at all or not due to SoC?
I would highly doubt it, mainly because the pixel has 1 back camera and the mate has 3
Could still happen, other phones have more than one camera and have had it ported over, OnePlus 6, LG g6 etc etc but the only Thing that might be an issue it them. Phones have had snapdragon processors as opposed to Huawei Kirin.
Gitaroo said:
I googled everywhere, but can't seems to to find anything on it. Is it possible at all or not due to SoC?
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Porting Google Camera is much easier from Snapdragon SoC to Snapdragon SoC, yet there are still issues on OnePlus phones cause of the different sensors. I'm afraid it would take someone in the knowledge and motivated to properly port GCam for Kirin, and then you have the problem of the multiple lenses, something GCam doesn't support natively. First and foremost Huawei should just significantly cut back denoising and some of the sharpening, or just offer the option. Otherwise stock camera app is well rounded (minus GCam's awesome photosphere).
Night Signt is what I am more interested in from the new Google cam.
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Porting Google Camera is much easier from Snapdragon SoC to Snapdragon SoC, yet there are still issues on OnePlus phones cause of the different sensors. I'm afraid it would take someone in the knowledge and motivated to properly port GCam for Kirin, and then you have the problem of the multiple lenses, something GCam doesn't support natively. First and foremost Huawei should just significantly cut back denoising and some of the sharpening, or just offer the option. Otherwise stock camera app is well rounded (minus GCam's awesome photosphere).
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You are absolutely right. Some tweaks from Huawei and the stock camera App is brilliant. There is no need fpr GCam on Huawei especially since Huawei started with those dedicated night modes.
The problem does not seem to be the SOC as Mate 10 pro has a perfectly usable GCam port but the P20 pro doesn't. The problem is with the IMX 600 on the P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro as it enables pixel binding technology to capture HDR photos within the sensor itself rather than stacking different shots together. The pixel binding technology relays on the sensor to capture four pictures at once while other HDR technology only captures one photo at each shot. Oneplus uses the same technology on its secondary sensors so If there if any ports are working with the Oneplus's secondary sensor, then it might as well working on the Huawei devices. But If that's not the case, then it's not likely for us to get hands on any workable GCam shortly.
What a shame. imo the Mate 20 pro cam modules are really capable, but the software tends to screw up my images. I mean as mentioned, the sharpening, and the noise reduction is way over the top, and makes the images oilpaintings rather than actual pictures.
Even Google's Photo Scan App is not compatible with Mate 20 Pro
sajokj said:
Even Google's Photo Scan App is not compatible with Mate 20 Pro
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but you know, you can download this apk and its working perfectly
Also waiting for this :angel:
I tried many ports but nothing worked. Agree with Don.Chen's insight, I also found M20P compatible with some P20P's ports, but not the M10 ports. Miss GC's Portrait mode. Basically hardly any support for Kirin processors. Saw people mentioned Huawei's Camera API 2 is blocked, thus GC will not work for HDR+.
I hope some devs will turn and give it a try to mods gcam to work with our device
This version works well with mate 20 pro
sam1374 said:
This version works well with mate 20 pro
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You are right, it works ? however it crashes when opening the settings, but it's still something.
Here's the link if anyone wants to try:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177624777-android-apk-download/
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You are right, it works ? however it crashes when opening the settings, but it's still something.
Here's the link if anyone wants to try:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177624777-android-apk-download/
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Is this from pixel 3?
At least it works . And it's real 40 MP photos with zoom.
I tried one of the gcam version but it didnt work correct, so I deleted it. But i have a feeling that after that my camera doesent work so good anymore, it doesent take so good pictures anymore. Do you think that something like that is possible, or it is just my feeling? I dont have any good pictures to compare between, so it is hard to prove.
No change in terms of quality here. I guess you could do a soft reset? Has anyone found a port for wide angle support? Thanks
sam1374 said:
This version works well with mate 20 pro
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Are you using a mate 20 pro? The reason I ask is because I see VOLTE.
Hey Guys,
I opened a thread in the offical Huawei Forum in order to try to push a little the better implementation of the camera 2 api. I know chances are low, but if there is enough feedback and participation in the discussion maybe there is a chance for change. So please feel free to contribute to the thread and also share it if you are interested in better camera 2 api implementation.
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/community/details/?topicId=6790&showBread=1
Cheers
Maybe also support these for a smarter camera app:
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/community/details/?topicId=6918
https://uk.community.huawei.com/ask...support-for-camera-api-2-and-camera-hal3-4267
https://uk.community.huawei.com/ask...hutter-but-minimal-shutter-speed-to-keep-4079
nurps said:
Maybe also support these for a smarter camera app:
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/community/details/?topicId=6918
https://uk.community.huawei.com/ask...support-for-camera-api-2-and-camera-hal3-4267
https://uk.community.huawei.com/ask...hutter-but-minimal-shutter-speed-to-keep-4079
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Thank you for sharing the links and for the support. I know the chances are low that this is going to change something but maybe huawei pays some attention to the community...
I don't know how much this will really matter in the recent light of the huawei ban, but we received an answer regarding the Camera2api implementation in the forums.
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/community/details/?topicId=6790&showBread=1
Lets hope that the noise made about this topic is enough to maybe move something a a better direction.
Huawei doesn‘t care, I bet. At least Lightroom can shoot HDR DNG with the ultra wide cam...
I wanted to make a comment about this. I just bought the p30 pro here in China. I have been waiting for the emui 10 update. But, I also found on Huawei's website the Huawei Camerakit, which it says encapsulates the Google camera2 API. It requires Android studio version 3.0.1 or later, a Kirin 970 or later, and emui 8.1.0 or later... Wouldn't this mean a developer like the people on here could implement it? Link is developer.huawei.com/consumer/en/Camerakit.
I am hoping you all have an explanation/some enlightenment!
P30 Lite specification
Could anybody share Camera2 API Prob results here for Huawei P30 Lite?