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Let's talk about some milk and Oreo's with our Note 8. Go!

whmgreen said:
Let's talk about some milk and Oreo's with our Note 8. Go!
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Any idea when it's coming out for Verizon?
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I believe that Oreo will start droping Jan - Feb... T-Mobile and Xfinity first Sprint and Verizon Last...just guessing though...

Beta should be coming soon. For most countries in Europe. But it still is pretty disappointing that S8 got Oreo and Note8 which uses similar hardware didn't. Plus Samsung could support Note users after Note7 failure.
And porting Oreo to N8 from S8 is really difficult. First beta didn't boot for some reason and getting a logcat with Samsungs new security is bit more difficult. Second beta has even more security which makes it even worse.
Did You guys hear that all Oreo devices have to use Project Treble? So once we get official Oreo we can boot Generic AOSP on our phones!

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ProtoDeVNan0 said:
Beta should be coming soon. For most countries in Europe. But it still is pretty disappointing that S8 got Oreo and Note8 which uses similar hardware didn't. Plus Samsung could support Note users after Note7 failure.
And porting Oreo to N8 from S8 is really difficult. First beta didn't boot for some reason and getting a logcat with Samsungs new security is bit more difficult. Second beta has even more security which makes it even worse.
Did You guys hear that all Oreo devices have to use Project Treble? So once we get official Oreo we can boot Generic AOSP on our phones!
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I read somewhere that Treble isn't going to be enabled in Oreo for Samsung devices.

The_Keeper86 said:
I read somewhere that Treble isn't going to be enabled in Oreo for Samsung devices.
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Currently it's just disabled in build.prop(S8 beta) but Google requires all manufacturers to use and enable Project Treble. Doesn't seem like any Oreo betas have it. But official releases will be forced to have that. It's not recommended anymore. Now Google forces all manufacturers to use it. Samsung is already using HIDL in Oreo beta which is a good sign. But still. They have to give us Treble. Otherwise Google will be mad lol idk.

ProtoDeVNan0 said:
Currently it's just disabled in build.prop(S8 beta) but Google requires all manufacturers to use and enable Project Treble. Doesn't seem like any Oreo betas have it. But official releases will be forced to have that. It's not recommended anymore. Now Google forces all manufacturers to use it. Samsung is already using HIDL in Oreo beta which is a good sign. But still. They have to give us Treble. Otherwise Google will be mad lol idk.
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Oh cool well in that case that's awesome news

ProtoDeVNan0 said:
Currently it's just disabled in build.prop(S8 beta) but Google requires all manufacturers to use and enable Project Treble. Doesn't seem like any Oreo betas have it. But official releases will be forced to have that. It's not recommended anymore. Now Google forces all manufacturers to use it. Samsung is already using HIDL in Oreo beta which is a good sign. But still. They have to give us Treble. Otherwise Google will be mad lol idk.
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I think that only apllies to device that are released with Oreo, not wen released with Nougat. Even Nokia 8 doesn`t have Treble enabled.

gee2012 said:
I think that only apllies to device that are released with Oreo, not wen released with Nougat. Even Nokia 8 doesn`t have Treble enabled.
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Nokia 8 just got Official Oreo and doesn't have Treble . We'll see what Samsung gives us in the final release. But for now I feel like August Nougat is the last update Note8 will ever get.. I'm starting to feel bad for selling my S7 Edge. My friend has S7 and he already runs Oreo on it. I think even Galaxy S2 has Oreo.

ProtoDeVNan0 said:
Nokia 8 just got Official Oreo and doesn't have Treble . We'll see what Samsung gives us in the final release. But for now I feel like August Nougat is the last update Note8 will ever get.. I'm starting to feel bad for selling my S7 Edge. My friend has S7 and he already runs Oreo on it. I think even Galaxy S2 has Oreo.
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J.C.: could you please stop WINING in several threads about this?
Note8 (international versions) update is on it's way; there were several problems with the Firmware (freezing contacts, high battery AOD etc...)

henklbr said:
J.C.: could you please stop WINING in several threads about this?
Note8 (international versions) update is on it's way; there were several problems with the Firmware (freezing contacts, high battery AOD etc...)
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At least this year?

henklbr said:
J.C.: could you please stop WINING in several threads about this?
Note8 (international versions) update is on it's way; there were several problems with the Firmware (freezing contacts, high battery AOD etc...)
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It's good (?) to know somethings will never change on XDA

My security patch is still on August, that's not worth WHINING about? It's nearly December now....
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jadaress1 said:
My security patch is still on August, that's not worth WHINING about? It's nearly December now....
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Mine is on October.

ProtoDeVNan0 said:
Beta should be coming soon. For most countries in Europe. But it still is pretty disappointing that S8 got Oreo and Note8 which uses similar hardware didn't. Plus Samsung could support Note users after Note7 failure.
And porting Oreo to N8 from S8 is really difficult. First beta didn't boot for some reason and getting a logcat with Samsungs new security is bit more difficult. Second beta has even more security which makes it even worse.
Did You guys hear that all Oreo devices have to use Project Treble? So once we get official Oreo we can boot Generic AOSP on our phones!
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I don't think that's how Treble works. The news that XDA had yesterday was that it seemed easier to port an AOSP ROM. You still need to be able to flash it, and as long as the Snapdragon bootloader remains locked, there won't be any custom ROMs for our phones.
The good news for most of us is that security and core Android updates won't be held up by the manufacturers and the carriers.

The_Keeper86 said:
Mine is on October.
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I'm glad yours is more up to date than my UK Exynos version. I bought it on launch day and had a update that day and that was it. In my opinion that's not good enough for such an expensive phone. But I'm a sucka for Samsung phones so guess I'll just get on with it.
Ps it's not tied to any carrier, so I'm waiting for a update directly from Samsung.
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jadaress1 said:
I'm glad yours is more up to date than my UK Exynos version. I bought it on launch day and had a update that day and that was it. In my opinion that's not good enough for such an expensive phone. But I'm a sucka for Samsung phones so guess I'll just get on with it.
Ps it's not tied to any carrier, so I'm waiting for a update directly from Samsung.
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True but at least you can unlock your bootloader at least I think you can on your model.

The_Keeper86 said:
True but at least you can unlock your bootloader at least I think you can on your model.
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Yeh but im not into unlocking bootloader anymore. Reason I'm complaining mainly is that I'm way behind on security updates and my Aod is killing my battery hard, so I'm hoping an update will fix that. Otherwise the phone is working great.
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jadaress1 said:
Yeh but im not into unlocking bootloader anymore. Reason I'm complaining mainly is that I'm way behind on security updates and my Aod is killing my battery hard, so I'm hoping an update will fix that. Otherwise the phone is working great.
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That's understandable. I use aod throughout the day and I think it drains mine as well.

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Android 7.0?

I see android n was released today. aside from custom roms do you think theres a chance the 5x will get it officially?
Maybe, but not anytime soon, I don't think. Even with the XDA partnership with Honor, I'll say at least 3 months.
ArtOfSnaila said:
Maybe, but not anytime soon, I don't think. Even with the XDA partnership with Honor, I'll say at least 3 months.
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i think it would take time,huawei/honor has always been behind others considering updates.
lets see if partenship with xda makes any difference.
I dont think so we wait CM or other Custom Rom .....Huawei very late when to update ...
i would say yes. Nougat was will be the last update most probably this phone could get. It has everything it needs to support android N and moreover it was launched this year... So there are good chances that we will get android 7.
And here I haven't even got the MM update...:crying:
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Faheemarif252 said:
And here I haven't even got the MM update...:crying:
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search in forums,, links for marsallow are aldredy shared for kiw-l21.
venom007 said:
search in forums,, links for marsallow are aldredy shared for kiw-l21.
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Not for middle eastern version I'm afraid...
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Faheemarif252 said:
Not for middle eastern version I'm afraid...
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am not aware of regions, anyways bad luck :crying:
EMUI, at least two months.....a custom ROM, probably a month at max
Depends on your region. If you are in L21, L22 and L24 version you are likely to get it. And remember that this may be the last update which you will get.
The Honor 4x which came with KitKat is now running on MM. So hopefully Honor will update its devices atleast till 2 increments.
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Depends on your region. If you are in L21, L22 and L24 version you are likely to get it. And remember that this may be the last update which you will get.
The Honor 4x which came with KitKat is now running on MM. So hopefully Honor will update its devices atleast till 2 increments.
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considering this am pretty shure it will be updated to emui5, even if it didnt a stable cm rom would do the justice.
They better after posting this on their forums website with a policy update saying:
Honor is committed to providing the best possible experience for our customers. We listened to customer feedback, and we are proud to share our Software Update Policy.
From this year we are making a commitment to provide customers with access to new features (at least once every three months during the first 12 months) for at least 24 months following each product launch.
We will keep providing access to security and software updates to fix bugs and enhance user experience in a timely manner.
Beyond this period we will continue to provide updates in response to any threats to user safety and security.
Our goal is to ensure customers have the best and safest possible experience on their Honor device.
Honor USA devices covered by this policy include Honor 5X and Honor 8.
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They better after posting this on their forums website with a policy update saying:
Honor is committed to providing the best possible experience for our customers. We listened to customer feedback, and we are proud to share our Software Update Policy.
From this year we are making a commitment to provide customers with access to new features (at least once every three months during the first 12 months) for at least 24 months following each product launch.
We will keep providing access to security and software updates to fix bugs and enhance user experience in a timely manner.
Beyond this period we will continue to provide updates in response to any threats to user safety and security.
Our goal is to ensure customers have the best and safest possible experience on their Honor device.
Honor USA devices covered by this policy include Honor 5X and Honor 8.
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Honor India too has the similar policy for all the Honor Devices stating the 24 months support.
vsriram92 said:
Honor India too has the similar policy for all the Honor Devices stating the 24 months support.
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its nice to see awesome support from honor, even for a midranger like honor 5x
venom007 said:
its nice to see awesome support from honor, even for a midranger like honor 5x
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Not only for the mid ranged Honor 5x. Even for the Honor 4x, their support is good till now.
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Not only for the mid ranged Honor 5x. Even for the Honor 4x, their support is good till now.
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yeah, exatly, as an eom huawei/honor is doing a pretty descent job
This is something tgat is missing from othe OEMs, its nice to see Huawei updating their mid-range devices to nougat
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Not for middle eastern version I'm afraid...
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If any one of KIW-L21 (or) L22 (or) L24 gets updated to EMUI 5, then you will get it for sure. But it will be months later.

Nouget announced for January 2017 (In Germany at least...)

http://www.phonearena.com/news/ZTE-Axon-7-Android-7.0-Nougat-update-coming-January-2017_id87628
However, I can`t see to find that tweet from ZTE germany
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However, I can`t see to find that tweet from ZTE germany
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https://twitter.com/ZTE_Mobile_DE/status/796647122791788544
it was posted here already if you look through the threads
Itsmejayson said:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/ZTE-Axon-7-Android-7.0-Nougat-update-coming-January-2017_id87628
However, I can`t see to find that tweet from ZTE germany
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https://twitter.com/ZTE_Mobile_DE/status/796647122791788544
it was posted here already if you look through the threads
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that means , A2017U (USA) and A2017 (Chinese) will get Nougat either this month or the next (December).
I can't say that I'm not a little bit disappointed by hearing January 2017. Being advertised as the first Daydream 'ready' phone, I had my hopes up for an upgrade closer to the Daydream-platform launch today..
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I can't say that I'm not a little bit disappointed by hearing January 2017. Being advertised as the first Daydream 'ready' phone, I had my hopes up for an upgrade closer to the Daydream-platform launch today..
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If you didn't know Daydream requires Nougat and the phone initially ships with Marshmallow, I can see how that could be interpreted. I just knew it meant it will get Nougat eventually. The chipset is what is important. Older Qualcomm devices cannot support Daydream because they cannot meet recommended performance requirements.
Daydream actually required 7.1 version IMO.
And since 7.1 released couple of weeks ego that's mean
It needs at least 2 months preparation until OEM implement a newer version of Android.
So If US or Chinese version receive it within November/December it will be version 7 and that's not good sign/news at all.
So everyone hope ZTE bring 7.1 version(and NOT 7 i repeat) and doesn't matter who will get it first IMO.
It will be HUGE MISTAKE if ZTE not bring 7.1.
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Indeed, let's hope they are skipping 7 and are putting all effort in a good working 7.1.
On official german Facebook page they say Daydream will be supported with Nougat update in January.
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paatha13 said:
Daydream actually required 7.1 version IMO.
And since 7.1 released couple of weeks ego that's mean
It needs at least 2 months preparation until OEM implement a newer version of Android.
So If US or Chinese version receive it within November/December it will be version 7 and that's not good sign/news at all.
So everyone hope ZTE bring 7.1 version(and NOT 7 i repeat) and doesn't matter who will get it first IMO.
It will be HUGE MISTAKE if ZTE not bring 7.1.
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Can anyone confirm this? I don't recall reading anything saying Daydream required Nougat 7.1.
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Can anyone confirm this? I don't recall reading anything saying Daydream required Nougat 7.1.
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http://gadgetguideonline.com/android/android-nougat-guides/new-features-in-android-nougat-7-1/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...-pixel-exclusive-non-pixel-exclusive-changes/
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is it possible that 7 will improve the camera? Or is that down to hardware.
ekerbuddyeker said:
is it possible that 7 will improve the camera? Or is that down to hardware.
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As long as ZTE involved to improve it via software.
But until now all Chinese haven't shown any skills for better software processing as for the camera performance.
Even Huawei lacking against top of the top Korean manufacturers despite being involved Leica.
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i have a question. Which country is in charge of the official firmware support for the G model?
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ayim said:
i have a question. Which country is in charge of the official firmware support for the G model?
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Apparently Zte germany, they are basically the only ones to reply and give infos regarding software releases
ekerbuddyeker said:
is it possible that 7 will improve the camera? Or is that down to hardware.
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There is a possibility we will see another camera improvement if zte implement camera2api in the nougat update, however i doubt this because the camera2api has been available since lollipop which has been around for years. On the bright side however they said they might add raw support which you need the camera2api for (unless they want to do a lot of coding themselves). So there is a possibility the camera might get better .

Does honor 5x supported oreo update?

hi everyone , Does honor 5x supported oreo update , oreo based custom roms in future ?
Honor 5x is forgoten from Huawei. No software updates, no security updates ... Nothing ...
ven67 said:
Honor 5x is forgoten from Huawei. No software updates, no security updates ... Nothing ...
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Security update, you have custom rom like los mokee or crdroid.
But for the rest, you right, welcome to consumer society.
Our 5x is slowly dying
ven67 said:
Honor 5x is forgoten from Huawei. No software updates, no security updates ... Nothing ...
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Our devices , remain at nogat , do not wating oero
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Security update, you have custom rom like los mokee or crdroid.
But for the rest, you right, welcome to consumer society.
Our 5x is slowly dying
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Thanks a lot , exactly our 5x is slowly dying
if you had even bothered to search you would see that some devs are trying to bring oreo to the 5x but its not easy. the 5x is an obsolete budget device. huawei gave up on it after MM yet we have nougat thanks to hard working devs. the latest git posts show some progress on oreo and im sure they will eventually succeed in bringing oreo to the 5x.
for those that are impatient and want the latest update i suggest you buy a flagship with a strong dev community. nokia makes way better devices at a similar price point if money is an issue. anything released this year will come with treble support so i suggest buying something new.
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if you had even bothered to search you would see that some devs are trying to bring oreo to the 5x but its not easy. the 5x is an obsolete budget device. huawei gave up on it after MM yet we have nougat thanks to hard working devs. the latest git posts show some progress on oreo and im sure they will eventually succeed in bringing oreo to the 5x.
for those that are impatient and want the latest update i suggest you buy a flagship with a strong dev community. nokia makes way better devices at a similar price point if money is an issue. anything released this year will come with treble support so i suggest buying something new.
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Thats the point, if we dont had such great devs for los we would have nothing cause all customs roms dont care about old phones and so do manufacters.
I cant complain about this phone, best phone i bought with the oppo find7 which i lost.
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Thats the point, if we dont had such great devs for los we would have nothing cause all customs roms dont care about old phones and so do manufacters.....
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not quite true, most devices have at least a bit of development interest but its not easy without having the necessary tools. thankfully google has made it easier with treble but it will still take some time until it spreads. it wont be long until os updates will come directly from google and not the OEM.
i wouldnt count on the 5x going past oreo. the good thing is that even budget devices are shipping with treble so a good selection of devices will be available from here on. im just waiting till the LG G6 gets oreo so i can ditch this phone. i hope everyone else has good alternatives.
Install lineage and get monthly security updates, who cares about oreo, if you want to have oreo functions customise your rom, there's no function on oreo that probably cant be added with an app
B371
I have orig soft B371 with februar 2018 security patch.
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I have orig soft B371 with februar 2018 security patch.
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B371 marshmallow or nougat , emui 4 or 5 ?
marshmallow, emui 4.0.3

HARD GAMER please I need your help.

I've been stucking here on Nougat and fails to move on to Oreo. I don't know I just think that Nougat is better in term of performance and stability for gaming. But now, you know, all the threads and developers giving all their loves for Oreo. So maybe this is my time to move.
So, please all hard gamers. In your experience. I need your setup badly for which Oreo rom should I flash. The most minimal and only essential customizations but very good performance n gaming, and please tell me which kernel you've been using for gaming. I really need it badly. Gaming is life. Please.
FYI I play Vainglory, FreeFire or ROS. Thank you so much.
Since there are no Oreo blobs for the Redmi Note 4 from Xiaomi (the Redmi Note 4 has yet to get the MIUI Oreo update and Xiaomi won't release sources for it until it does), kernels are pretty useless, IMO. Just stick with Nougat. It has sources so kernels for it are a whole lot more useful.
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Since there are no Oreo blobs for the Redmi Note 4 from Xiaomi (the Redmi Note 4 has yet to get the MIUI Oreo update and Xiaomi won't release sources for it until it does), recoveries are pretty useless, IMO. Just stick with Nougat. It has sources so kernels for it are a whole lot more useful.
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Ah, didn't know that. If you tell so I think Im gonna stick with Nougat. Do you know when estimated time Xiaomi to release sources for Oreo?
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Ah, didn't know that. If you tell so I think Im gonna stick with Nougat. Do you know when estimated time Xiaomi to release sources for Oreo?
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Probably never. Xiaomi never updates its old phones to new Android versions (only makes aesthetic changes to MIUI in updates), and this phone is a year old now. So it's old in Xiaomi's eyes. Xiaomi is a hardware company. Makes its money off hardware. So it has to keep pumping out new phones to ensure sales. If everyone holds onto old phones, like us Note 4 owners, Xiaomi doesn't get paid.
So don't expect an Oreo update or official sources from Xiaomi. You'll probably have to move onto the Note 5 Pro if you want Oreo and good gaming performance.
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Probably never. Xiaomi never updates its old phones to new Android versions (only makes aesthetic changes to MIUI in updates), and this phone is a year old now. So it's old in Xiaomi's eyes. Xiaomi is a hardware company. Makes its money off hardware. So it has to keep pumping out new phones to ensure sales. If everyone holds onto old phones, like us Note 4 owners, Xiaomi doesn't get paid.
So don't expect an Oreo update or official sources from Xiaomi. You'll probably have to move onto the Note 5 Pro if you want Oreo and good gaming performance.
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Wow nice information. Note 5 pro is too pricey imo, I better add few bucks for better device. K then, thanks buddy!

s9+ 9.0

It's been 2 months since Android Pie appeared.
I asked through Samsung Member, from Romania, if they can give me any informations when they will release the new software.
Do you have any new informations?
AdelinVerestiuc said:
It's been 2 months since Android Pie appeared.
I asked through Samsung Member, from Romania, if they can give me any informations when they will release the new software.
Do you have any new informations?
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Haven't seen anything myself. Last I read it was being tested internally but outside of that nothing...
I would just keep checking the news sites (I use sammobile, google news and other similar sites) to see if there are any updates. If something does come out news wise it will create a lot of discussion.
It took them 6 months to get the S8's upgraded to Oreo if I remember correctly, the fact there's test builds out there for the S9+ already is a good sign it may happen in less then 6 months...
We will not even get 8.1?
RISHI RAJ said:
We will not even get 8.1?
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Why do you want Android 8.1 update when latest Sam Experience 9/9.5 already has almost everything Android 8.1 introduced?
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Why do you want Android 8.1 update when latest Sam Experience 9/9.5 already has almost everything Android 8.1 introduced?
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They will take a long time to release pie,atleast they can give 8.1 which has better sound quality in Bluetooth compared to 8.0 & is refined in many terms or camera qualities of Note 9 etc
RISHI RAJ said:
They will take a long time to release pie,atleast they can give 8.1 which has better sound quality in Bluetooth compared to 8.0 & is refined in many terms or camera qualities of Note 9 etc
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You really need better sound quality over better battery life, maybe some improvements in camera and dark theme?
RISHI RAJ said:
They will take a long time to release pie,atleast they can give 8.1 which has better sound quality in Bluetooth compared to 8.0 & is refined in many terms or camera qualities of Note 9 etc
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So like would you rather them work on 9.0 and get it right or waste resources on a 8.1 build that's only gonna get updated to 9.0 shortly after anyways? You make no sense whatsoever.
Well I think They'll roll pie after S10 release,Its already 6 months since the phone launched,Can't they give one incremental update ?
It would be a waste of resources for not much gain. They are already working on test 9.0 builds, I'd rather they focus their resources there.
What improvements to bluetooth audio are on 8.1? I can't find anything documents other then supporting devices will show their battery level in the BT quick tile on 8.1.
He's referring to pixel specific Bluetooth fixes in 8.1. it seems to be a common misconception with s9 users on xda and Reddit.

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