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So I am really loving this phone but unfortunately the camera has disappointed me more than once. After using the iP4s for awhile I realized that I don't like iOS or the iPhone much at all, what I do love is the camera. Now all I want is an Android device with an awesome camera and I thought the EVOLTE would be it. So, before I return the phone and await the SGS3 I want to see if software upgrades can improve the camera performance.
Thanks in advance!
please return it
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please return it
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Agreed.......with this.
Camera kicks ass.....later.
mlin said:
So I am really loving this phone but unfortunately the camera has disappointed me more than once. After using the iP4s for awhile I realized that I don't like iOS or the iPhone much at all, what I do love is the camera. Now all I want is an Android device with an awesome camera and I thought the EVOLTE would be it. So, before I return the phone and await the SGS3 I want to see if software upgrades can improve the camera performance.
Thanks in advance!
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Exactly what type of performance are you looking to get?
As for myself, I've gotten some incredible shots with this camera.
Wow, you guys are loads of help. Its a simple question. I know the camera uses good hardware but the performance still lacks. You guys think what you want but when I'm trying to capture pics of my newborn and my eco produces slightly fuzzy pics with poor color representation while the pics on my wife's iPhone look better then I'm inclined to want better performance. FWIW the EVO outperforms the iPhone in daylight but infamy other settings it comes in 2nd place.
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Exactly what type of performance are you looking to get?
As for myself, I've gotten some incredible shots with this camera.
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As good as the iP4s. I have a dslr but when out and about I want a camera that is close to as good as my dedicated point and shoot. Maybe my phone is defective, I'll take it in tomorrow to compare to a floor model.
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mlin said:
Wow, you guys are loads of help. Its a simple question. I know the camera uses good hardware but the performance still lacks. You guys think what you want but when I'm trying to capture pics of my newborn and my eco produces slightly fuzzy pics with poor color representation while the pics on my wife's iPhone look better then I'm inclined to want better performance. FWIW the EVO outperforms the iPhone in daylight but infamy other settings it comes in 2nd place.
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What settings are you using on the camera? Auto, hdr, portrait, close up, etc? ISO, white balance?
The only thing I've noticed is slight ghosting with hdr, but that's been a known issue for quite awhile now.
And they probably weren't very helpfully since tapatalk is showing you posting from a nexus s.
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mlin said:
As good as the iP4s. I have a dslr but when out and about I want a camera that is close to as good as my dedicated point and shoot. Maybe my phone is defective, I'll take it in tomorrow to compare to a floor model.
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I've got a canon powershot and my evolte takes very comparable pictures. I haven't tried in low light conditions, but otherwise I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.
Quite possibly could be a defect with the camera itself.
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What settings are you using on the camera? Auto, hdr, portrait, close up, etc? ISO, white balance?
The only thing I've noticed is slight ghosting with hdr, but that's been a known issue for quite awhile now.
And they probably weren't very helpfully since tapatalk is showing you posting from a nexus s.
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Yeah, I've tried adjusting pretty much everything. Low light helps some but even then my phones struggles to catch a quality pic when my daughter is moving around. If you haven't yet realized, my newborn is the reason why the camera has become so important.
I'm posting front Nexus because the EVO is deactivated because I was considering returning and doesn't want to take a chance of something happening to it. Also my iP4s has water damage.
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bernechad said:
What settings are you using on the camera? Auto, hdr, portrait, close up, etc? ISO, white balance?
The only thing I've noticed is slight ghosting with hdr, but that's been a known issue for quite awhile now.
And they probably weren't very helpfully since tapatalk is showing you posting from a nexus s.
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I've got a canon powershot and my evolte takes very comparable pictures. I haven't tried in low light conditions, but otherwise I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.
Quite possibly could be a defect with the camera itself.
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Thanks for your responses. I'll try taking it in tomorrow before making a decision. It sounds like mine may not be performing as intended.
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mlin said:
Yeah, I've tried adjusting pretty much everything. Low light helps some but even then my phones struggles to catch a quality pic when my daughter is moving around. If you haven't yet realized, my newborn is the reason why the camera has become so important.
I'm posting front Nexus because the EVO is deactivated because I was considering returning and doesn't want to take a chance of something happening to it. Also my iP4s has water damage.
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Check out the picture thread to see what this camera can do. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671858
I'd definitely have your phone checked out.
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Wow, you guys are loads of help. Its a simple question. I know the camera uses good hardware but the performance still lacks. You guys think what you want but when I'm trying to capture pics of my newborn and my eco produces slightly fuzzy pics with poor color representation while the pics on my wife's iPhone look better then I'm inclined to want better performance. FWIW the EVO outperforms the iPhone in daylight but infamy other settings it comes in 2nd place.
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When you open up with the camera sucks and rave about a phone that most of us cant stand (especially after what apple pulled with our current phone) and then mention another phone that for the love kittens I have no idea why people like them (samsung phones, sorry I just can't get past the way they feel in the hand) and expect people to not look at your "new thread" and think....TROLL ALERT. Especially sense we already have a thread about the camera picture quality.
Just saying....
Well for what it's worth, my camera experience had been poor too. I think it is defective. I can't take a picture of a flower close up in close up mode... I think that's an issue.
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When you open up with the camera sucks and rave about a phone that most of us cant stand (especially after what apple pulled with our current phone) and then mention another phone that for the love kittens I have no idea why people like them (samsung phones, sorry I just can't get past the way they feel in the hand) and expect people to not look at your "new thread" and think....TROLL ALERT. Especially sense we already have a thread about the camera picture quality.
Just saying....
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you're a clown. I simply said the iPhone has a good camera. I don't care if you don't like the iPhone or Samsung. If you can't handle the facts then maybe the real world isn't for you. Continue to live in your bull **** bubble where only your opinion matters and facts are irrelevant. Dip ****.
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Well for what it's worth, my camera experience had been poor too. I think it is defective. I can't take a picture of a flower close up in close up mode... I think that's an issue.
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Have you taken it to have it looked at yet?
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The OP also presented an intriguing question. Since there is some aggressive post capture image processing, would we benefit from an alteration on the software level? You guys never needed to jump on his back. This is constructive criticism and inquiring, not fanboi-ing.
If our devs found a way to edit the imaging chip software, I would assume so, yes. They may be able to tone it down a little bit so things aren't over-sharpened, which I've noticed can be true in some cases. However, if you play around with the camera settings a little more, you may be able to find some optimum values. I dropped my ISO (a setting that affects grain) to 400 instead of auto and reduced saturation by 1 to help with pink skin tones. It looks noticeably better and it already looked really nice from the get go for me. I haven't played with the sharpness yet though.
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To answer the question in the op, yes, software upgrades can increase camera performance.
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I have an iPhones 4s that is about to sell on eBay. I had a galaxy nexus and returned for this phone. The camera, among other things, played a big role in that decision.
The iPhone 4s takes great pictures....that an everyday person can take no problem. But the stock interface decides for you, often giving good pictures, but limiting your ability to adjust the capture.
At first the my evo was not impressing me...because I was using it like the iPhone. Once you realize the focus works differently, you can get comparable pictures. Once you realize how powerful the numerous adjustments are on the evo's camera...you can get outstanding pictures that blow away the iPhone 4s. I've directly compared with the photographery of a fiancee.
The evo allows the user to manipulate the capture...and as thus also allows the user to ruin the capture. The iPhone doesn't, but is more limited. Honestly it is all back to ios vs android.
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Also...I know its a result of the fast capture feature, but I wish you could set it to focus when you push the capture button. This would be nice for when you want one perfect shot and not to take advantage of the fast capture feature.
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...Honestly it is all back to ios vs android.
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Which comes down to: do you want to do it yourself or be told how to do it?
I prefer to make my own choices, so I choose this phone and its exceptional camera.
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Which comes down to: do you want to do it yourself or be told how to do it?
I prefer to make my own choices, so I choose this phone and its exceptional camera.
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Indeed.
I have been using android since the HTC Hero. I strayed for a while with the iphone 4s...but eventually could not stand it anymore. Honestly...it was this remarkable device that final sold me back. It blows the iphone 4s away in every area.
I am very open to change, and I will use what is best. In my opinion, ICS combined with the hardware on this device is tops. I'm not a fanboy by any means...I still love and perfer the new ipad and my macbook...but that could change with the next generation of devices.
There is one BIG thing I like about apple products. Due to the market hype...there sure do sell for a lot more on ebay than they should!
coming from a note 1, Im a little shocked to see just how badly compressed the ZU's camera is.. I dont care about the lack of flash, but the colour is terrible and i often cant see a great improvement from VGA res photos to "8mp" (actually apparently only 7mp.. and only 4:3) .. im clinging to the fact that its the jpg compression that is causing the majority of the lacking detail (looks very much like it) and that an update somewhere along the line will let you save as fine quality or ideally TIF / RAW
I haven't actually got the phone yet but have seen a lot of reviews on this topic and they all agree with you... I think your right that they have rushed out the phone to early adopters to beta test if you like before releasing to the western markets. I'm pretty sure there'll be an update with in a month that improves camera, screen issues as well as Sony app crashes.
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It's completely the JPG compression. At 8MP setting, the resolution is 3264x2448. That would be a 22 meg uncompressed file. The photos the ZU takes are 1.5 megs as a JPG. They're way overcompressed and show ridiculous amounts of artifacting. Why do they do this? What year is this? Are we concerned about a 5 meg photo?
My guess is some marketing / support execs decided they didn't want to take support calls for people trying to email a few 5meg JPEGs so they just crank it up to heavily compressed so the files are 1 meg and email easily without any conversion.
I just hate that everything has to be decided based on the lowest common denominator of idiots. Clearly though, that's what's happened here because the camera sensor is probably not bad.
It will be funny when people are all excited to buy Honami because of the 21mp sensor but the final JPGs will be compressed to ****.
Yeah, after 2-3 weeks with this, a coming to love it in general, fact is the camera will have me off to the Note 3... Silly Sony.
Lenovo super camera....a lot better jpg's . Works with xzu.
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Lenovo super camera....a lot better jpg's . Works with xzu.
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i tried this but always got "the camera is in use, close apps using it" .. even directly after a boot.. (I also read reports of v3.5 containing trojans) which version did you try?
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The XZU has a camera? Wow, it's so far down my list of priorities, I guess I just didn't notice.
I was actually impressed with the camera on this smartphone. So much better than my Xperia T on color reproduction and noise reduction.
I feel like the camera is really good in light but useless in low light. I love my phone but I may buy something like the galaxy camera or if the qx10 gets a larger holder I would buy that.
so is this truly a software bug and can it fixed by sony
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so is this truly a software bug and can it fixed by sony
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I myself don't bother too much with great camera quality on a smartphone.. Nowadays, it's about capturing the moment rather than checking every pixel out of a picture.. If you are really into such a thing, those QX series is a great addition i guess
Hey asone great pics I have taken with the Z Ultra
http://imgur.com/a/karNr
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I think Sony is using a cheap sensor on the XZU. The pictures are just plain ugly comparative to older phone cameras. The worst picture taken from my HTC Butterfly looks way better than the best picture taken by my XZU.
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I'm contented with how the picture that I took with my XZU turned out. Maybe because I am not a "photographer" :laugh:
Note: Photos were cropped and I just encircled some parts of it, as I used them in reporting something at work. No filter done though!
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I'm contented with how the picture that I took with my XZU turned out. Maybe because I am not a "photographer" :laugh:
Note: Photos were cropped and I just encircled some parts of it, as I used them in reporting something at work. No filter done though!
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From the pics you posted you can clearly (or not) notice the lack of detail. It looks like a collage. Compare that to the photo from my HTC Butterfly at the same 8MP.
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From the pics you posted you can clearly (or not) notice the lack of detail. It looks like a collage. Compare that to the photo from my HTC Butterfly at the same 8MP.
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Like I said, I'm contended with it, collage or whatever. Not that meticulous on photos. That's just me though.
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Like I said, I'm contended with it, collage or whatever. Not that meticulous on photos. That's just me though.
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The quality... is pretty bad.
My Galaxy Note 2 camera is much much better.
The quality is so bad that even for a basic photo of friends it doesnt do.
Like the other guy said, if you take a photo of a whiteboard at college, or at a presentation it comes out so bad that you can barely see whats on it.
I don't know how you people are managing to screw things up so bad with the camera. It's no Lumia 1020, but it's really not that bad if you don't use the standard Sony app. Or even if you do, it's fine so long as you don't zoom in. Not sure how you're going to claim it's not good enough for casual pictures of friends. I find it had to believe there are so many photography enthusiasts out there all of a sudden. Before I had a smartphone, I didn't own a camera at all, and I know many people for whom this is also true. I suspect this is the case for many users. Any camera is better than no camera.
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I don't know how you people are managing to screw things up so bad with the camera. It's no Lumia 1020, but it's really not that bad if you don't use the standard Sony app. Or even if you do, it's fine so long as you don't zoom in. Not sure how you're going to claim it's not good enough for casual pictures of friends. I find it had to believe there are so many photography enthusiasts out there all of a sudden. Before I had a smartphone, I didn't own a camera at all, and I know many people for whom this is also true. I suspect this is the case for many users. Any camera is better than no camera.
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common man the pictures are really bad and i wish this is just a software issue, as I love this phone and wish at least it takes good pictures but really the pictures are bad, can someone maybe contact sony and ask them so that we can get this to rest and keep wishing for things that might never improve
I found a couple of G2 photosets on flickr. They look better than the older leaked photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635455147754/with/9708113419/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lgblog_de/sets/72157635373615615/with/9670122433/
Post any other pictures and videos you may find. I know some of you suckers already have the G2 from AT&T. Let me see what you're made of.
Thanks for the links! I am very interested to see how the camera compares to the Note 3. And these pictures look pretty good!
I was definitely going to get the Note 3 until I read it doesn't have OIS, now I am considering the G2... And the price is pretty good also. Only $575 off contract vs $725 for the Note 3 on AT&T.
Yes, those pics look awesome!!
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Thanks for the links! I am very interested to see how the camera compares to the Note 3. And these pictures look pretty good!
I was definitely going to get the Note 3 until I read it doesn't have OIS, now I am considering the G2... And the price is pretty good also. Only $575 off contract vs $725 for the Note 3 on AT&T.
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The Note 3 has OIS...
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The Note 3 has OIS...
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No it doesnt, Note 3 has digital image stabilisation.
Yep, and in my opinion there is HUGE difference between that and hardware OIS...
Makes so many more of my pictures keepers.
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Yep, and in my opinion there is HUGE difference between that and hardware OIS...
Makes so many more of my pictures keepers.
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Well I saw this yesterday
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Camera-shootout-Note-3-vs-Galaxy-S4-vs-G2-vs-iPhone-5-vs-One_id47239
I can't find any definitive proof that the Note 3 doesn't have OIS. The O in OIS stands for optical, so there is no such thing as a digital OIS. That's just simple image stabilization, without the O.
Nvm. Poopoo it doesn't have it. I wasn't planning on getting it anyway. No one bothers to mention it besides dpreview. At least I can rely on them to get the camera specs right.
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/7967117746/hands-on-with-samsung-gaalxy-note-iii
So far the LG G2 is my fallback plan. The Xperia Z1 has established itself as having an awful camera, and screen, and is big and heavy for a small 5". The Note 3 is more of the same. I am sick of my cheap ass built Note 2 with squishy cover. No plans to upgrade to the same thing. My only hope is the Oppo N1 comes out to be amazing, and has a killer camera. All other companies have laid out their disappointing hands.
Any real world photos yet? I know a few of you have this beast
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Any real world photos yet? I know a few of you have this beast
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Here's a quick one of my dog.
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Yeah, I'd love to see more actual user pictures also!
I would like a bigger screen than my HTC One, but I really like the camera on it and want to see what the G2 is capable of....
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Yeah, I'd love to see more actual user pictures also!
I would like a bigger screen than my HTC One, but I really like the camera on it and want to see what the G2 is capable of....
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There are already a bunch of shootouts and comparisons out there. The HTC camera has only 4MP so it looks blurry no matter what. It couldn't compare to 8MP cameras, much less the newer 13MP ones right now. HTC also has very bad processing with weird colors and heavy sharpening and noise removal. It was one of the best low light shooters on Android, but the G2 can compete with OIS, and has much better resolution.
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There are already a bunch of shootouts and comparisons out there. The HTC camera has only 4MP so it looks blurry no matter what. It couldn't compare to 8MP cameras, much less the newer 13MP ones right now. HTC also has very bad processing with weird colors and heavy sharpening and noise removal. It was one of the best low light shooters on Android, but the G2 can compete with OIS, and has much better resolution.
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Most of the pictures I've seen are from reviewers, not average users and that's what I'd like to see.
Just because the HTC One only has 4mp doesn't automatically mean blurry... I'm a crap photographer which I'll readily admit and I've got some great shots on the HTC One by just pointing and clicking. Here are a couple examples... If the G2 can do better, I'll be really happy with it! I'm tempted to head to an AT&T store this morning.
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Most of the pictures I've seen are from reviewers, not average users and that's what I'd like to see.
Just because the HTC One only has 4mp doesn't automatically mean blurry... I'm a crap photographer which I'll readily admit and I've got some great shots on the HTC One by just pointing and clicking. Here are a couple examples... If the G2 can do better, I'll be really happy with it! I'm tempted to head to an AT&T store this morning.
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You are right in a way. I have HTC One too but pictures become blur as you start to zoom-in because it is only 4MP. Whereas 13MP on the other hand has 3 times more detail in the picture. And to make the point clear, in a common user perspective G2 can blow HTC one out of water (in camera).
A quick pic I took in my office yesterday. Auto settings, didn't change anything.
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Some pics from yesterday, not really trying just pointing and shooting. Also i had changed my lcd density without setting the xposed framework to put the camera back at 480 so auto focus was confused the entire time.
http://imgur.com/a/CosU6
Those look really good for just point and shoot! Thanks!
One more from breakfast today, its still overcast outside. (Coast)
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Here's a quick one of my dog.
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Damn dude he is a cutey..is that a dooberman mix? Maybe a rotty?
Quick pic of our tall skinny sunflower
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Hi to all,
We all love V30. We all wait LG V30 and real photo/video comparison. V30 is the phone with all good things. And the main thing what are we waiting for is camera.
So I search to see witch camera did V30 have and it is Sony IMX351, with 1,6 aperture, with 1pixel size. This means that small pixel is not so good for low lightcand for the details. V30 will catch photos without noise because 1.6 aperture but not so much light in the dark because 1 pixel size. And this camera sensor Huawei P10 use it for front camera. This make me a big disappointed. Why they use a average camera? The competition (Samsung, Google, Appel) use camera with big pixels.
Last night I watch google pixel 2 and how DXOMark write the best phone camera on the market.
Samsung and Appel have very good camera.
Where here is V30? In the middle? Or near like them?
So what you think? Is this camera sensor very bad or not? Is Possible to V30 with software make very good camera?
P. S. And OIS is veey bad on V30, every video is shake so much. Is possible with updates to make OIS+EIS for better stabilization?
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Hi to all,
We all love V30. We all wait LG V30 and real photo/video comparison. V30 is the phone with all good things. And the main thing what are we waiting for is camera.
So I search to see witch camera did V30 have and it is Sony IMX351, with 1,6 aperture, with 1pixel size. This means that small pixel is not so good for low lightcand for the details. V30 will catch photos without noise because 1.6 aperture but not so much light in the dark because 1 pixel size. And this camera sensor Huawei P10 use it for front camera. This make me a big disappointed. Why they use a average camera? The competition (Samsung, Google, Appel) use camera with big pixels.
Last night I watch google pixel 2 and how DXOMark write the best phone camera on the market.
Samsung and Appel have very good camera.
Where here is V30? In the middle? Or near like them?
So what you think? Is this camera sensor very bad or not? Is Possible to V30 with software make very good camera?
P. S. And OIS is veey bad on V30, every video is shake so much. Is possible with updates to make OIS+EIS for better stabilization?
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I think this will answer your question, v30 is as good as xl
https://youtu.be/OCqBHavIuAY
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I think this will answer your question, v30 is as good as xl
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Thx a lot for your answer but is this user credible? How did he get Pixel and V30? :/ is this true?
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Thx a lot for your answer but is this user credible? How did he get Pixel and V30? :/ is this true?
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His channel is very popular, I don't think he would lie about the devices he compares. After the presentation of the pixel xl, testers could take the phones for a test ride outside. Also same way lg gave test units to some youtubers, that's how he can have both. So you can believe the credibility of this video although unfortunately front-facing camera is a disappointment an there's not much lg can do about that
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I'll know soon enough. I ended up pre-ordering one from my carrier a few minutes ago. Says it'll ship anywhere between today and Monday. (Not that I trust that estimate but fingers crossed that it is true.) If it ships today and I have it in hand by the weekend, I have a standard set of tests I can run on it. Otherwise, hopefully it is still here so I can use it at a concert on Wednesday. I'm keeping my V20 so I'll be able to side by side with that.
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I'll know soon enough. I ended up pre-ordering one from my carrier a few minutes ago. Says it'll ship anywhere between today and Monday. (Not that I trust that estimate but fingers crossed that it is true.) If it ships today and I have it in hand by the weekend, I have a standard set of tests I can run on it. Otherwise, hopefully it is still here so I can use it at a concert on Wednesday. I'm keeping my V20 so I'll be able to side by side with that.
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Hi I would be very interested in the results of your tests and especially the quality you get at the live concert! Please share if you have the time ☺ also a comparison of the audio recording capabilities of the V30 vs those of the v20! They should be quite similar in quality
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Hi I would be very interested in the results of your tests and especially the quality you get at the live concert! Please share if you have the time also a comparison of the audio recording capabilities of the V30 vs those of the v20! They should be quite similar in quality
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We will see! I also frequent a dark jazz club a lot here in KC. So I have plenty of opportunities to test audio and video in the absolute worst conditions. I can tell you that the V20 mics using just the HD Audio app that it came up with picks up things pretty clearly. Unfortunately, it also picks up the other people in the club talking too. That's not a knock against the phone though. I'll be interested in seeing how the directional mics compare while recording video. Although, I still need to figure out those sliders.
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I'll know soon enough. I ended up pre-ordering one from my carrier a few minutes ago. Says it'll ship anywhere between today and Monday. (Not that I trust that estimate but fingers crossed that it is true.) If it ships today and I have it in hand by the weekend, I have a standard set of tests I can run on it. Otherwise, hopefully it is still here so I can use it at a concert on Wednesday. I'm keeping my V20 so I'll be able to side by side with that.
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Thx a lot my friend I hope you will enjoy I will your new phone. The V30 is the phone what all we want it is just All In One phone, but just we need really camera comparison. And I hope that they will release full good update for camera.
P. S. Yes, someone will tell if you want good camera buy DSLR, that's true but if I want to buy flagship phone I want with good camera.
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We will see! I also frequent a dark jazz club a lot here in KC. So I have plenty of opportunities to test audio and video in the absolute worst conditions. I can tell you that the V20 mics using just the HD Audio app that it came up with picks up things pretty clearly. Unfortunately, it also picks up the other people in the club talking too. That's not a knock against the phone though. I'll be interested in seeing how the directional mics compare while recording video. Although, I still need to figure out those sliders.
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Looking forward very much to these tests! Thank you so much! I heard a rumour that the V30 mikes cannot be directed like the v20 could but it could be nonsense there are two mikes instead of the three in the v20
isko01 said:
Thx a lot my friend I hope you will enjoy I will your new phone. The V30 is the phone what all we want it is just All In One phone, but just we need really camera comparison. And I hope that they will release full good update for camera.
P. S. Yes, someone will tell if you want good camera buy DSLR, that's true but if I want to buy flagship phone I want with good camera.
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Ha! I'm a bit of a photographer already. I shoot with a full frame DSLR and a smaller mirror less in addition to my cellphones. To tell you the truth, I only drag my DSLR out for road trips and special shooting conditions. At this point I do most of my shooting with smaller sensors like my mirror less or cellphone. DSLR sensors are too clinically clean for my tastes. I just reset my Flickr account settings so people can see which shots are done with which camera:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chimphappyhour/
I will say that when I shoot, most of the shots are going to end up in B&W. That's just my shooting preference.
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Looking forward very much to these tests! Thank you so much! I heard a rumour that the V30 mikes cannot be directed like the v20 could but it could be nonsense there are two mikes instead of the three in the v20
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The information about the V30 is a bit confusing. I've looked my V20 over and over for the three mics it's listed as having and only ever saw two holes for mics, one on top and one on the bottom. In the JerryRig tear down of the V30, he does point out something interesting though. He points out the same two mics but then mentions that the phone's earpiece becomes a mic in very loud conditions. I'm guessing the V20 did the same then and explains why the sound when testing video recording sounds different than if I am just doing audio recording without video.
As for whether the mics are directional or not while recording video, I swear I saw one video where someone was demonstrating it on the V30. Only problem is that I've watched just about every V30 video on YouTube from a lot of the larger tech contributors that I will have a hell of a time trying to go back and look for it. I suspect it will be there.
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Ha! I'm a bit of a photographer already. I shoot with a full frame DSLR and a smaller mirror less in addition to my cellphones. To tell you the truth, I only drag my DSLR out for road trips and special shooting conditions. At this point I do most of my shooting with smaller sensors like my mirror less or cellphone. DSLR sensors are too clinically clean for my tastes. I just reset my Flickr account settings so people can see which shots are done with which camera:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chimphappyhour/
I will say that when I shoot, most of the shots are going to end up in B&W. That's just my shooting preference.
The information about the V30 is a bit confusing. I've looked my V20 over and over for the three mics it's listed as having and only ever saw two holes for mics, one on top and one on the bottom. In the JerryRig tear down of the V30, he does point out something interesting though. He points out the same two mics but then mentions that the phone's earpiece becomes a mic in very loud conditions. I'm guessing the V20 did the same then and explains why the sound when testing video recording sounds different than if I am just doing audio recording without video.
As for whether the mics are directional or not while recording video, I swear I saw one video where someone was demonstrating it on the V30. Only problem is that I've watched just about every V30 video on YouTube from a lot of the larger tech contributors that I will have a hell of a time trying to go back and look for it. I suspect it will be there.
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Waaoo thx you a lot. I hope a good camera comparison (test) for LG V30 from you. And, your photos are very nice
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In the JerryRig tear down of the V30, he does point out something interesting though. He points out the same two mics but then mentions that the phone's earpiece becomes a mic in very loud conditions.
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Yes, like concerts. That was very interesting part of the video.
In LG official web site, now they put info about camera. It is good it see that Slow Motion have 240fps at 720p. But too bad it is not 1080p...
LG V30 camera is phenomenal, Saw a comparison between the Galaxy Note 8, the LG V30 did a lot better, specially the rear cameras., LG V30 should have been released faster and for the DXOmark scores, the V30 should score higher than Galaxy Note 8.
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LG V30 camera is phenomenal, Saw a comparison between the Galaxy Note 8, the LG V30 did a lot better, specially the rear cameras., LG V30 should have been released faster and for the DXOmark scores, the V30 should score higher than Galaxy Note 8.
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I hope that will be soon very good comparison between last flagships.
I'm not a grammar Nazi but its not old enough to be past tense.... "Does the v30 have a crappy camera?"
Guys as a long time htc user, I have been on xda for a long time just for htc mega thread. After doing a little research, I noticed that there's no such thread for lg, there are separate threads for lg devices but no mega thread where all but mostly latest devices are discussed. Can someone start a thread like that?
Also if you can read or don't mind translating Korean language, here's an amazingly detailed review of lg v30
http://m.post.naver.com/viewer/post...No=11981539&searchKeyword=lg v30&searchRank=2
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CHH2 said:
Ha! I'm a bit of a photographer already. I shoot with a full frame DSLR and a smaller mirror less in addition to my cellphones. To tell you the truth, I only drag my DSLR out for road trips and special shooting conditions. At this point I do most of my shooting with smaller sensors like my mirror less or cellphone. DSLR sensors are too clinically clean for my tastes. I just reset my Flickr account settings so people can see which shots are done with which camera:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chimphappyhour/
I will say that when I shoot, most of the shots are going to end up in B&W. That's just my shooting preference.
The information about the V30 is a bit confusing. I've looked my V20 over and over for the three mics it's listed as having and only ever saw two holes for mics, one on top and one on the bottom. In the JerryRig tear down of the V30, he does point out something interesting though. He points out the same two mics but then mentions that the phone's earpiece becomes a mic in very loud conditions. I'm guessing the V20 did the same then and explains why the sound when testing video recording sounds different than if I am just doing audio recording without video.
As for whether the mics are directional or not while recording video, I swear I saw one video where someone was demonstrating it on the V30. Only problem is that I've watched just about every V30 video on YouTube from a lot of the larger tech contributors that I will have a hell of a time trying to go back and look for it. I suspect it will be there.
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Thank you! You mentioned that the audio recording quality changes between using the camera while on video vs recording only audio with the dedicated audio recording app on the LG, which one gets you the better audio and utilises the earpiece as a mic please? Are you able to record high pitches like a flute or sax on the high register and drum sets?
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Guys as a long time htc user, I have been on xda for a long time just for htc mega thread. After doing a little research, I noticed that there's no such thread for lg, there are separate threads for lg devices but no mega thread where all but mostly latest devices are discussed. Can someone start a thread like that?
Also if you can read or don't mind translating Korean language, here's an amazingly detailed review of lg v30
http://m.post.naver.com/viewer/post...No=11981539&searchKeyword=lg v30&searchRank=2
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Thx a lot for this web site. How I see that everything is nice. But the camera is still (I think) bad. The V20 have better photos at night, and V30 dont have so good dynamic range. What's wrong with V30? Softwear problem or hardware?
isko01 said:
Thx a lot for your answer but is this user credible? How did he get Pixel and V30? :/ is this true?
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No. it's obvious fake
Those are true
CHH2 said:
If it ships today and I have it in hand by the weekend, I have a standard set of tests I can run on it.
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Oh, please run those
Having had the phone a few days now I've had time test the camera properly. I've noticed it tends to soften images, this is particularly noticeable with pets highlighted in the fur.
Coming from the pixel 4 it's pretty disappointing that it can't compete in a lot of instances.
The first few pics I took were absolutely awful. I updated the software and this improved the camera considerably. What's the chances of the camera software improving with further updates? Anyone coming from other Samsung devices that's had the camera improve with updates?
Really love everything else about the phone and don't really wanna return it.
steslatt said:
Having had the phone a few days now I've had time test the camera properly. I've noticed it tends to soften images, this is particularly noticeable with pets highlighted in the fur.
Coming from the pixel 4 it's pretty disappointing that it can't compete in a lot of instances.
The first few pics I took were absolutely awful. I updated the software and this improved the camera considerably. What's the chances of the camera software improving with further updates? Anyone coming from other Samsung devices that's had the camera improve with updates?
Really love everything else about the phone and don't really wanna return it.
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The softening your seeing is Sammy's processing. Complete garbage. It's the same on all their phones. Including my note 10+.
GCam mods are superior
That sucks. Guessing we won't be seeing a working exynos gcam version any time soon either.
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That sucks. Guessing we won't be seeing a working exynos gcam version any time soon either.
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ZGCAM works ok on Exynos, I can't seem to apply the configs though, worth you giving it a try to see how you find it
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ZGCAM works ok on Exynos, I can't seem to apply the configs though, worth you giving it a try to see how you find it
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I've just got it now thanks, I'll have a play with it. What are the configs for?
Coming from a Pixel 4a the camera quality is VERY disappointing if you're using your cell phone camera to take pictures of anything that isn't a non-moving well-lit object. Lots of detail is lost especially when the subject is a person - facial features are smoothed out and that makes the hair look really blended together. Disabling the scene optimizer seems to help but you can't disable this in Portrait mode.
I have GCam installed but haven't had a chance to tweak the settings. It's better than the stock camera but........ coming from a $350 phone to an $800 phone and I still need to tweak camera settings???? Can't really express how disappointed I am in the camera quality and there is stock post processing is almost impossible to turn off.
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I've just got it now thanks, I'll have a play with it. What are the configs for?
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I believe they are "settings" that users share to give best performance in certain situations, I might be wrong though, that's my interpretation of them.
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I've just got it now thanks, I'll have a play with it. What are the configs for?
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I just seen another post and realised that the "configs" folder needs to be renaed to "configs7" to work, I have only found N10Z4 config to work so far, others crash the app.
Here's the link from the other post by Beserker15 https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/settings09/
Hi there. My camera is truly appalling, and significantly worse than the S10 I traded in. All photos on any setting are grainy and noisy. I can't get a good quality photo from a metre away in good light. Does anyone know if this is a software issue they are going to release a fix for? If not, I'm going to send it back I think.
Winnie87 said:
Hi there. My camera is truly appalling, and significantly worse than the S10 I traded in. All photos on any setting are grainy and noisy. I can't get a good quality photo from a metre away in good light. Does anyone know if this is a software issue they are going to release a fix for? If not, I'm going to send it back I think.
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Mine was like this right out of the box. The first software update improved it a lot but it's still very disappointing.
lect1984 said:
Coming from a Pixel 4a the camera quality is VERY disappointing if you're using your cell phone camera to take pictures of anything that isn't a non-moving well-lit object. Lots of detail is lost especially when the subject is a person - facial features are smoothed out and that makes the hair look really blended together. Disabling the scene optimizer seems to help but you can't disable this in Portrait mode.
I have GCam installed but haven't had a chance to tweak the settings. It's better than the stock camera but........ coming from a $350 phone to an $800 phone and I still need to tweak camera settings???? Can't really express how disappointed I am in the camera quality and there is stock post processing is almost impossible to turn off.
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My thoughts exactly, I'm sending it back this week. I was gonna go for the ultra instead but I asked the question over there and it seems while it's a step up from the regular S21 it's still very disappointing. In just gonna keep the pixel 4 till something decent comes out. Probably the next pixel now.
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My thoughts exactly, I'm sending it back this week. I was gonna go for the ultra instead but I asked the question over there and it seems while it's a step up from the regular S21 it's still very disappointing. In just gonna keep the pixel 4 till something decent comes out. Probably the next pixel now.
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The next actual "high end" pixel that comes out (not some mid-range device) my note 10+ is going bye bye. Never gonna look back at Samsung again.
The camera is good for outdoor. These pictures have been shot from approximately 150 meters [hand-held]. Please see it as a guide for you.
How's the audio zoom working in videos? Does the audio actually zoom in that direction or does it just get louder?
Agree the camera/app is disappointing. Hopefully they get it improved soon
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The camera is good for outdoor. These pictures have been shot from approximately 150 meters [hand-held]. Please see it as a guide for you.
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Every new phone nowadays does a good enough job outdoors in daylight. The slew of problems with Samsungs camera come right after that. Especially indoors. Shutter lag and HDR always on no matter what you set it to just kill the camera. Samsung desperately needs ZSL.