The zoom lens doesn't work in pro mode! - Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers

I might be wrong but I just tested out and found out that the x2 lens doesn't work (engage) in the pro mode! (so you can zoom, but it's only electronic zoom)
What gives?

You can still zoom by dragging two fingers apart (or together). I guess they figure that if you're using pro-mode you want more control than just 1x or 2x.

meyerweb said:
You can still zoom by dragging two fingers apart (or together). I guess they figure that if you're using pro-mode you want more control than just 1x or 2x.
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My point is that it doesn't use the x2 zoom lens once it reaches the x2 and beyond.

lowspeed said:
My point is that it doesn't use the x2 zoom lens once it reaches the x2 and beyond.
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Are you shooting in good light conditions? The secondary camera won't be used if lighting isn't great as it's stuck at an f/2.4 aperture
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Yes. Good light. Great light.

lowspeed said:
My point is that it doesn't use the x2 zoom lens once it reaches the x2 and beyond.
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How do you know? How can you tell it's not switching to the telephoto lens at 2x?

meyerweb said:
How do you know? How can you tell it's not switching to the telephoto lens at 2x?
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Had the same problem with the note 8 and now on the s9 plus. I don't understand why Samsung won't give control over the 2x lens in pro mode

I found out that you can't get a dng with the 2nd lens. Real bollox.
Also thru lightroom cc there's only one camera available
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Yep, mine does the same thing. What utter crap. Editing DNG files gives markedly better results than the canned .jpg's, but the DNG is always unzoomed because optical zoom won't engage in Pro mode.
Hey, this is PRO MODE, right fellas? WTF?
ianc

£900 and the 2x lens does not work in pro mode.
Samsung are ignoring this problem. Bad ethics. The 2x zoom does not work in pro mode. Cripples the camera use. £900 camera phone and you cannot use the 2x zoom in 'PRO MODE', only in automatic mode. It's insane. C'mon you suits at Samsung. Acknowledge the problem and do something about it.

It's been this way. There's no toggle. If you want the f2.4 just select that lens while in AUTO and then tap PRO. You will now be shooting with the f2.4 lens. Switch back to AUTO and select f1.5, etc. Pain? Yes, but it's not totally unusable.

cpufrost said:
It's been this way. There's no toggle. If you want the f2.4 just select that lens while in AUTO and then tap PRO. You will now be shooting with the f2.4 lens. Switch back to AUTO and select f1.5, etc. Pain? Yes, but it's not totally unusable.
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That just adjusts the aperture on the primary lens. The 2x zoom lens has a fixed aperture so there's no way to change that.
Right now there is no way to use the 2x zoom lens in Pro mode at all
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Devhux said:
That just adjusts the aperture on the primary lens. The 2x zoom lens has a fixed aperture so there's no way to change that.
Right now there is no way to use the 2x zoom lens in Pro mode at all
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When I select 2X, it's zoomed in hence using the zoom aka f2.4 lens. The key is to do this while in AUTO then select pro mode.
Of course it would be nice if it had a toggle while in pro mode.

cpufrost said:
When I select 2X, it's zoomed in hence using the zoom aka f2.4 lens. The key is to do this while in AUTO then select pro mode.
Of course it would be nice if it had a toggle while in pro mode.
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Can anyone confirm this ?

One Twelve said:
Can anyone confirm this ?
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I just tried this and the answer is Yes and no.
In darker light, when toggling 2x zoom it actually just uses digital zoom on the primary camera. When you do that in Auto Mode then switch to Pro Mode, the zoom setting is retained.
In bright light, toggling 2x zoom does switch to the telephoto lens. When this happens and you switch directly to Pro mode, it switches back to the primary camera with no zoom.
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Devhux said:
I just tried this and the answer is Yes and no.
In darker light, when toggling 2x zoom it actually just uses digital zoom on the primary camera. When you do that in Auto Mode then switch to Pro Mode, the zoom setting is retained.
In bright light, toggling 2x zoom does switch to the telephoto lens. When this happens and you switch directly to Pro mode, it switches back to the primary camera with no zoom.
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Exactly and confirmed by the guy who made that informative youtube video too when it was suggested
It will just switch to the regular lens an zoom digitally. Good try though!
cpufrost said:
When I select 2X, it's zoomed in hence using the zoom aka f2.4 lens. The key is to do this while in AUTO then select pro mode.
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This is incorrect! when you switch to pro mode the 2x is replaced by the primary lens.
So regardless of good light or not...
YOU CANNOT USE THE 2x in PRO MODE
That is with the stock camera. A tweaked apk of the camera is another matter

Not possible to use 2x 'zoom' lens in pro mode.
For those of you confused about whether you can use 2x zoom in pro mode. You factually cannot. If you cover the 2x lens with your finger after switching to pro mode, it will dawn on you that the camera has switched back to the primary lens. Just a reality check. The fact that Samsung do not respond to us is nothing short of a disgrace. As I have said.....we have paid £850-£900 for this phone. Samsung could tackle the problem. Shame on them.

Well damn, looks like you're right!
I was wondering why the alleged 2X shots looked noisy and lacked detail.
2X is essentially limited to brightly lit scenes and no more.
Pity because pro mode allows manual setting of ISO and exposure up to 10S.
I have a Note 9 and with the S-Pen a true bulb mode would be awesome!

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Selfie overprocessed

Hi,
So I have my new mate 20 pro but I noticed that selfie pics are a little over processed there were some people who had a solution for that if I remember correctly, could someone help me with it
No one?
jizang said:
Hi,
So I have my new mate 20 pro but I noticed that selfie pics are a little over processed there were some people who had a solution for that if I remember correctly, could someone help me with it
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I think aperature mode reduces some of the over face softening and blemish removal. But it's still not as sharp as some phones like the Pixel. I think some places in the world prefer softer and lighter faces, so it's incorporated into the camera software. I'm awaiting replacement right now, so I can't check to see if its available under the front camera. It helped with the back camera for me.
Just looked, sadly there is no aperture under front camera. Is there any other way to reduce it? It is a software thing right?
And I tried to use portrait mode with selfie cam but there is no bokeh effect do I have to do something else?
Reduce beauty effect to zero
I did does not help sadly
jizang said:
I did does not help sadly
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In the camera app.. There are 3 options to get what you wanted. Test them all. I find the selfie cam close to pixel phone as well
I will try thanks. But what about the bokeh effect? It does not apply to it when I shoot a picture in the portrait mode
jizang said:
I will try thanks. But what about the bokeh effect? It does not apply to it when I shoot a picture in the portrait mode
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I got this answer from other forum.
I am not sure you are talking about the fron or rear camera so i just assume you meant the fron one.
Go to portrait mode, there will be 3 buttons below, press the one on the bottom left and select the one after "None"; the round one.
Try taking photos after you adjust the settings above.
jizang said:
I will try thanks. But what about the bokeh effect? It does not apply to it when I shoot a picture in the portrait mode
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Hi! In view finder there is a option(looks like a box), you should enable it for bokeh mode.
If you use portrait mode, and really need the bokeh (which is far from perfect even on Pixel 3), then use Portrait mode, and just hold still when you take the shot. The phone will sharpen the photo if you hold the phone steady.
My selfies are sharper on the Mate 20 Pro than my Pixel 3 (Which I am going to sell as it's rubbish)
Also, remember the smart HDR can make the photo look overprocessed.
CHinese version is updated to 166 and reportedly to improve selfie. I'll wait if not I will sell it.
[email protected] said:
Hi! In view finder there is a option(looks like a box), you should enable it for bokeh mode.
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Where do you mean it I didn't find it?

How to activate the three cameras?

Hi,
I have noticed the phone got three cameras, all with different specs. All reviews tell you the specs of each lens, but how do you activate them? Even though the review might be titled "everything about...." :laugh:
I have noticed that normal 1x and wide 0.6x uses two different lenses but the third I can not access. How do I do that? Obviously I have tried zooming but still the 1x lens doing the preview at least....
3rd lens is x3, wait few seconds for it to change
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duRin90 said:
3rd lens is x3, wait few seconds for it to change
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Thanks! Now it's working. It needed to focus on something far away to switch from the standard 1x to the 3x camera not only taping 3x and wait with camera pointing at the table very close. When aiming it at a distant object it jumped to camera 3x even if the UI said 3x from start.
"Problem" solved, again thanks very much!
Also ensure you've got proper light otherwise, like many other phones from other companies, it will stick to the 1x and digitally zoom.
In proper lighting, anything 3x and more will use the 3x lens.

Telephoto lens not being used in photo mode

When you use photo mode and toggle 2X it doesn't use the top lens, the telephoto one, it uses the maine with digital zoom, it makes no sense.
The only way to activate that lens is in portrait mode, them is uses the telephoto lens.
For me is a bit illogical not using the optical zoom in photo mode, like the mate 20 line-up does, it would be great that it could be fix in the future with a update.
PVRP said:
When you use photo mode and toggle 2X it doesn't use the top lens, the telephoto one, it uses the maine with digital zoom, it makes no sense.
The only way to activate that lens is in portrait mode, them is uses the telephoto lens.
For me is a bit illogical not using the optical zoom in photo mode, like the mate 20 line-up does, it would be great that it could be fix in the future with a update.
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.... I thought that the detail of the 2x zoom wasn't that good!
Reported to Xiaomi.
What?? You are right..... What a find....
I just also noticed this. Since using gcam with telephoto produces far better results.
Rommco05 said:
Where you reported? Post here link and we can join to that bug
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Just via Settings - Feedback (at the bottom of the settings menu)
cLeAv0 said:
I just also noticed this. Since using gcam with telephoto produces far better results.
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Which verison?
Cheers
TelePhoto Lens 2x times zoom is working on Photo mode.
It just depends on the lightning conditions. When it has enough light it uses telephoto.

Forcing always on HDR in the camera app

One of my few complaints about this camera, is the fact that it's one of the few flagships, if not the only one where we don't have an HDR toggle, and that we have to go to a separate mode to force HDR. Why don't they give us the option to choose whether we want it always on? I'll post few pictures down below that showcase how much better the picture looks with HDR vs not having it on, especially when you zoom in, the difference is night and day.
So, is there a way to force it to always be on? Maybe through ADB, and although it's been years since I rooted any of my phones, I would do it in a heartbeat if there's a way to force HDR to always kick in. A donation for someone who can do this is also on the table.
Again, please take your time in checking the amount of detail and colors HDR is able to grab, especially once the telephoto camera kicks in.
Not that I know of, it is one the things that annoyed me since I started using Huawei with P9 and then Honor View 10 before P30 Pro.
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I never get note of this but you are right, i tested the same on my p30 pro and HDR isn't the only thing, images are a lot more sharper on HDR mode when using telelens.
the effect isnt so dramatic when using the normal 40mpix lens but when telelens is used the HDR mode kicks in really good.
Ai does not work with HDR on. That's why I guess
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Brotuck said:
Ai does not work with HDR on. That's why I guess
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But even when AI is switched off, the phone doesn't always shoots in HDR mode.
Flash-User said:
I never get note of this but you are right, i tested the same on my p30 pro and HDR isn't the only thing, images are a lot more sharper on HDR mode when using telelens.
the effect isnt so dramatic when using the normal 40mpix lens but when telelens is used the HDR mode kicks in really good.
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That's because it does automatically use HDR at times, but sometimes when you need it to use HDR, it doesn't, and that's what pisses me off.
What sucks for me is that almost never it uses HDR when shooting in portrait mode, in many instances I end up getting a blown up background when I use portrait mode with a bright light source in the background.
The hardware on this phone is capable of wiping the floor with the Pixel 3, and even their software, it's just that Huawei has been sticking to some dumb choices for years now. All our complaints, and they decide that they don't want to listen to them and do anything about it.
This has been a complaint of mine since the P20 Pro. I do not believe there is a way to force HDR, though I really wish there was!
i think the must put HDR switch on/off in the main camera interface , and the HDR image its a way better then the non HDR image tacking by camera
But the front câmera work on AI HDR ...Crazy !
felipy2k said:
But the front câmera work on AI HDR ...Crazy !
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Ikr? Why don't they give us the same toggle but for the rear cameras as well?
To be honest i don´t get you? There is a HDR Mode, the camera will always shoot in HDR, so exactly what you want?
EnormoDerClown said:
To be honest i don´t get you? There is a HDR Mode, the camera will always shoot in HDR, so exactly what you want?
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No the camera did not always shoot in HDR
If you switch the mode i would bet it does, it is not on the main interface but there is a dedicated mode for HDR. I would extremely doubt that this mode has no function
EnormoDerClown said:
To be honest i don´t get you? There is a HDR Mode, the camera will always shoot in HDR, so exactly what you want?
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We want a quick toggle that gives us the option to choose if we want HDR to always be on, auto, or off, just like on almost every other flagship. We don't want separate mode.
Who "we"? It is so simple to choose hdr mode. And if AI is turned on and phone says "keep steady" it means it take hdr shot then.
First is hdr mode and second is AI on in normal auto mode
olafsand said:
First is hdr mode and second is AI on in normal auto mode
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There's no way to compare because one shot was with the primary camera and the second one with the wide-angle...
olafsand said:
Who "we"? It is so simple to choose hdr mode. And if AI is turned on and phone says "keep steady" it means it take hdr shot then.
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Oh I'm sorry, did it bother you that I used the term we?
I'm talking in general, there have been tons of forums about this issue with Huawei's camera app, so I'm not the 1st to complain about it, and I definitely won't be the last. And as you can see in this thread, WE as a majority still find it stupid to put HDR as a separate mode and not a quick toggle, kinda like they did with the AI mode before, until they changed it the past few months. Now, if you have no issues with this, good for you, and this forum isn't clearly for you.
And two, I posted images with AI on vs HDR on, and if you can't see the results, then that's on you.
I want this feature too... HDR always ready on Main Camera, HDR+ will be much awesome...
Another app?
Isn't any other camera app for P30 Pro that does a better job?

Note 20 camera modes: Macro?

Morning all
Of all the camera modes available, is Macro one of them?
I had the S20 Ultra and it was crap for anything close-up, so i switched back to the trusty Huawei.
I've always fancied a Note, and now the Note 20 is out, i can't justify the 20 Ultra's price tag, when the regular one will do what i need it to. Just wondering if Macro is one of the options, and if focussing is still an issue like the S20's had?
Look forward to your comments
Note 20 and 20 Ultra have ultrawide cameras without autofocus. Therefore macro is not an option. In my opinion this is a much bigger problem that the Note 20's plastic back (which actually looks pretty nice).
Actually, I've found the telephoto camera to have a very close focusing distance to make macro possible. Have you tried that?
gk1984 said:
Actually, I've found the telephoto camera to have a very close focusing distance to make macro possible. Have you tried that?
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I don't see a way to access telephoto mode. Can you describe or provide screen shots?
datawrhsdoc said:
I don't see a way to access telephoto mode. Can you describe or provide screen shots?
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In the Samsung camera app, there are 3 icons above the shutter button. Left is 3 trees, center is 2 trees, right is 1 tree. Those represent the different cameras you can choose.
gk1984 said:
In the Samsung camera app, there are 3 icons above the shutter button. Left is 3 trees, center is 2 trees, right is 1 tree. Those represent the different cameras you can choose.
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I'm definitely not seeing what you are seeing. I only see those 3 icons in video mode.
datawrhsdoc said:
I'm definitely not seeing what you are seeing. I only see those 3 icons in video mode.
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Turn off the 64MP mode. You want 12 MP. It's better image quality too. The standard camera is the only one that does 64MP, which is probably why you aren't seeing the others, and with 12MP, the camera uses pixel binning to improve image quality and low light captures.
gk1984 said:
Turn off the 64MP mode. You want 12 MP. It's better image quality too. The standard camera is the only one that does 64MP, which is probably why you aren't seeing the others, and with 12MP, the camera uses pixel binning to improve image quality and low light captures.
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Thanks, and holey crap my keyboard is dirty!!! ???
datawrhsdoc said:
Thanks, and holey crap my keyboard is dirty!!! ???
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How do you turn off 64?mode
Mbaverizon1966 said:
How do you turn off 64?mode
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Tap the 64mp and choose the *second option to your left.

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