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Huawei has been extremely sloppy in the past regarding support for the Camera2 API to allow third party camera apps to include full manual controls for exposure etc. Pretty much all other phone makers have full Camera2 support at least in their flagship lines but Huawei didn't even include it in the P10. So I'm really hoping that Huawei finally got things right with the Mate 10 / Mate 10 Pro. Would anyone with a Mate 10 or Mate 10 Pro be so nice to run this free Camera2 probing app ("Camera2 probe") from the PlayStore and post the results here? I'm most interested in the hardware level support category (It's either "Legacy", "Limited", "Full" or "Level 3").
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Thanks a lot! Unfortunately, it's still only "Limited", come on Huawei, how hard can it be?
And it is still fake "limited"...
Honor view 10 was an excellent device but it had no eis so i skipped it. so i want to know if this honor 10 has eis or not bcs i am really interested in this device.
Sandhusaab said:
Honor view 10 was an excellent device but it had no eis so i skipped it. so i want to know if this honor 10 has eis or not bcs i am really interested in this device.
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Sandhusaab said:
Honor view 10 was an excellent device but it had no eis so i skipped it. so i want to know if this honor 10 has eis or not bcs i am really interested in this device.
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I think there's EIS support in Gcam app. Although not sure how well it works.
mike_bravo said:
I think there's EIS support in Gcam app. Although not sure how well it works.
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it crashes alot in non snapdragon devices. i can only click photos using gcam app on my honor 8 pro and nothing else.
It is not sure if EIS is present in the Honor 10, considering it has the same "AI 2.0" as in the Huawei P20 series. But giving AI based IS on a sub €500 phone would make the P20 series less marketable, considering they share the same market
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It is not sure if EIS is present in the Honor 10, considering it has the same "AI 2.0" as in the Huawei P20 series. But giving AI based IS on a sub €500 phone would make the P20 series less marketable, considering they share the same market
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yes i agree but i am pretty surprised by the fact that honor 8 pro had eis in both front and back camera but its succesors are not having. also huawei phones used to have double tap to wake earlier but they removed it. dont know why
I need to buy a phone soon. Wife cracked her screen and I will be giving her my mate 9 that I've been pretty happy with.
So I'm looking to buy either a mate 10 pro which is $470 on Amazon or the new OP6T. I've tried both of them out and the 6T is looking very sexy and modern but I reckon that feeling will wear off in a few days. I feel like the 10 pro may have better battery and camera.
Which bring me to my criteria. I need dual sim, good battery and camera and I don't root etc and don't have a problem with Emui.
Thoughts?
Mate 10 Pro have a better camera and better battery.
OP6T looks very good ..
In my opinion (I rooting all my phones).. I don't buy Huawei phone because has removed the community due to blocking access to the bootloader
OP 6T if you don't mind the battery. There's the Google Camera port for the OP 6T plus it supports 4K EIS for video recording. Also the 845 is better than the kirin 970
Well the 6T has an iffy fingerprint reader, the camera sucks (and it's not just the software) and just installing a port of the Google camera doesn't fix that. As far as the CPU goes, that's kind of subjective, the Kirin 970 is a very capable processor. The Kirin 970 has their advanced modem and will give you very good LTE speeds (I'm getting between 45 to 90mbps versus 18 to 24mbps with my mate 9) For a dual SIM phone I would really go with the mate 10 pro BLA-L29 international model, just remember that if you're in the US it won't have any warranty
I like the normal mate 10 over the mate 10 pro. Has headphone jack and front finger print sensor that acts as the 3 buttons too
Granted I don't have a pro version to compare against except on paper specs...
Appreciate the answers. The more I want to get the OP6T the more the 10 pro is looking better. Did the 10 pro dual sim version get the P20 pro night mode? If it did is it as good?
stay away from huawei after closed unlock bootloader service, and also there's no supporting for it,, and if you insist on mate 10 pro stay with Chinese version they have all support for OTA update.
OnePlus 6T is better with SD845 you'll have a lot of supporting from Developers, rom's, kernels, tweaks,, a lots of things.
i bought mate 10, 128G and 6Gb ram and i hate it after fkng huawei closed unlock service.
hamadazh said:
stay away from huawei after closed unlock bootloader service, and also there's no supporting for it,, and if you incest on mate 10 pro stay with Chinese version they have all support for OTA update.
OnePlus 6T is better with SD845 you'll have a lot of supporting from Developers, rom's, kernels, tweaks,, a lots of things.
i bought mate 10, 128G and 6Gb ram and i hate it after fkng huawei closed unlock service.
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Why do you assume everyone cares if the bootloader is locked?
IMO the mate 10 pro has better battery life, better camera, and is waterproof (plus I actually like EMUI and its features)
I have the mate 10 pro, battery is very good, but the most you get with pro mode and playing around with many settings... It's not the easy quick perfect picture camera. It has received many updates and it's camera is very capable (night mode of course is not as good as p20pro, it's got different sensors)
The op6t camera is very good. Some people here said it's trash but they are talking Bs. Just take a look for yourself and Google samples from op6 or 6t users. It's a great camera.
But I would go with the op6t any day. The kirin 970 is good on paper and benchmarks but it overheats very fast, I cannot play pubg on lowest settings after 10min it thermothrottles and fps drop. The op6t just has the newer gen CPU which will be important going forward if you are going to keep the phone for 3+ years.
The op6t battery is very similar in size I don't think the difference should be too big to be a deciding factor. Both have fast face unlock though the fingerprint reader ist different. Decide what you like better.
All in all I think op6t is the more up to date phone which will also receive more updates and has better hardware for the upcoming 3years of use. The m10pro is more like the old, strong buddy that can still keep up. But the question is for how long.
I've been using the mate 10 Pro for nearly a year. Mine is running June security update and no software update for 5 months.
I'm selling my mate 10 Pro and buying the OnePlus 6t this week.
I've had enough of Huawei lack of support and updates.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again.
I've been using a regular mate 10 for a year and mine stays up to date. I don't use anything special, the updates just come over the air. It seems some people don't get updates but both my mate 9 and 10 keep getting updates.
What update you are looking for? Mate 10 Pro has all security patches. If you are talking about Android 8.1 it is not that major update and maybe that is why only China models received it. The next Major Android 9 will soon be available and that's what matters.
UK version C782 are still on June security patch and 132. We are 6 months behind with bug fixing updates improvements and most important security! We have been left behind in the UK and that is why we are all jumping ship
10 pro. I already had oneplus devices, and didn't like them as much as I did with the Huawei ones. Imo, the build quality is far better. It's on par with Apple. The camera is fantastic. The battery is a major goal. At first, I was having problems to get use with EMUI, in the end I passed to like it. It's not as good as oxygen os, but it's have been improving. So, I'll keep my 10 pro for more 6 months or a year.
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[...] The kirin 970 is good on paper and benchmarks but it overheats very fast, I cannot play pubg on lowest settings after 10min it thermothrottles and fps drop. The op6t just has the newer gen CPU which will be important going forward if you are going to keep the phone for 3+ years. [...]
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Hu, something's wrong with your device. I play PUBG on higher setting everyday with coworkers at lunch, and I can play at least 30 minutes (since pause are not longer than that) consuming only 13% battery (not from 100%) and getting a 30-35°C that is not so hot, comparing to iPhone 8S that drain twice as much and can be barely kept in hand for the same lenght of time. Maybe some phone are better, but well, mate 10 pro is really good a handling games. My nintendo switch got hotter than that...
That said, I do not like the overhsarpening/oil-ing effect of the camera, so, even mid-tier camera are better for me, I would not go for the mate 10 for the camera.
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UK version C782 are still on June security patch and 132. We are 6 months behind with bug fixing updates improvements and most important security! We have been left behind in the UK and that is why we are all jumping ship
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I'm not, albeit I've rebranded to c432. I had an OP3 and came to Huawei primarily for the battery life, and here the Mate 10 pro still has nearly 10% bigger battery.
tmzbeme said:
Why do you assume everyone cares if the bootloader is locked?
IMO the mate 10 pro has better battery life, better camera, and is waterproof (plus I actually like EMUI and its features)
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as you like,, and you already like it!! and it's just opinion :good: no one force you to not buying it,, for me i like that things like unlocked bootloader and root and play in system and change rom's etc,, and i wish to replace my mate 10 with OnePlust 6t,, or other brand.
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Anything but Huawei. With a custom ROM things are okay, but relying on Huawei to update? Yes, they currently still treat this device as a flagship. But my other phone, a P10 Plus already lagging behind. Luckily I do have the bootloader unlocked on that device, so that's a relief.
If I had to do a comparison, Huawei updates are like Samsung. Be glad if you ever get them. Is OnePlus that great? Nope. Fingerprint sucks, camera sucks, battery sucks, warranty is the worst out of any manufacturer.
What to buy? Great question!
Been struggling with the same problem. There is just no choice on the market without compromise. Huawei had it all with the large battery, best of the best inside, but they decided to flip off customers and disallow the bootloader unlock.
Rip. I would probably buy a OnePlus 5T, Poco F1 (has no NFC and some screens have touch issues).
I googled everywhere, but can't seems to to find anything on it. Is it possible at all or not due to SoC?
I would highly doubt it, mainly because the pixel has 1 back camera and the mate has 3
Could still happen, other phones have more than one camera and have had it ported over, OnePlus 6, LG g6 etc etc but the only Thing that might be an issue it them. Phones have had snapdragon processors as opposed to Huawei Kirin.
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I googled everywhere, but can't seems to to find anything on it. Is it possible at all or not due to SoC?
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Porting Google Camera is much easier from Snapdragon SoC to Snapdragon SoC, yet there are still issues on OnePlus phones cause of the different sensors. I'm afraid it would take someone in the knowledge and motivated to properly port GCam for Kirin, and then you have the problem of the multiple lenses, something GCam doesn't support natively. First and foremost Huawei should just significantly cut back denoising and some of the sharpening, or just offer the option. Otherwise stock camera app is well rounded (minus GCam's awesome photosphere).
Night Signt is what I am more interested in from the new Google cam.
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Porting Google Camera is much easier from Snapdragon SoC to Snapdragon SoC, yet there are still issues on OnePlus phones cause of the different sensors. I'm afraid it would take someone in the knowledge and motivated to properly port GCam for Kirin, and then you have the problem of the multiple lenses, something GCam doesn't support natively. First and foremost Huawei should just significantly cut back denoising and some of the sharpening, or just offer the option. Otherwise stock camera app is well rounded (minus GCam's awesome photosphere).
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You are absolutely right. Some tweaks from Huawei and the stock camera App is brilliant. There is no need fpr GCam on Huawei especially since Huawei started with those dedicated night modes.
The problem does not seem to be the SOC as Mate 10 pro has a perfectly usable GCam port but the P20 pro doesn't. The problem is with the IMX 600 on the P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro as it enables pixel binding technology to capture HDR photos within the sensor itself rather than stacking different shots together. The pixel binding technology relays on the sensor to capture four pictures at once while other HDR technology only captures one photo at each shot. Oneplus uses the same technology on its secondary sensors so If there if any ports are working with the Oneplus's secondary sensor, then it might as well working on the Huawei devices. But If that's not the case, then it's not likely for us to get hands on any workable GCam shortly.
What a shame. imo the Mate 20 pro cam modules are really capable, but the software tends to screw up my images. I mean as mentioned, the sharpening, and the noise reduction is way over the top, and makes the images oilpaintings rather than actual pictures.
Even Google's Photo Scan App is not compatible with Mate 20 Pro
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Even Google's Photo Scan App is not compatible with Mate 20 Pro
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but you know, you can download this apk and its working perfectly
Also waiting for this :angel:
I tried many ports but nothing worked. Agree with Don.Chen's insight, I also found M20P compatible with some P20P's ports, but not the M10 ports. Miss GC's Portrait mode. Basically hardly any support for Kirin processors. Saw people mentioned Huawei's Camera API 2 is blocked, thus GC will not work for HDR+.
I hope some devs will turn and give it a try to mods gcam to work with our device
This version works well with mate 20 pro
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This version works well with mate 20 pro
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You are right, it works ? however it crashes when opening the settings, but it's still something.
Here's the link if anyone wants to try:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177624777-android-apk-download/
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You are right, it works ? however it crashes when opening the settings, but it's still something.
Here's the link if anyone wants to try:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177624777-android-apk-download/
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Is this from pixel 3?
At least it works . And it's real 40 MP photos with zoom.
I tried one of the gcam version but it didnt work correct, so I deleted it. But i have a feeling that after that my camera doesent work so good anymore, it doesent take so good pictures anymore. Do you think that something like that is possible, or it is just my feeling? I dont have any good pictures to compare between, so it is hard to prove.
No change in terms of quality here. I guess you could do a soft reset? Has anyone found a port for wide angle support? Thanks
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This version works well with mate 20 pro
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Are you using a mate 20 pro? The reason I ask is because I see VOLTE.
Hi guys. I have mi9 64gb and it's very good phone in all categories but the 64gb fills too fast..
I'm thinking to switch to mate 20 pro (I had mate 10 pro for 6 months)
Is it worth?
What u recommend me to do?
Thx.
The power of the Mi 9 be with you
i had a mi9 too and compared with my mate 20 pro - no chance.
accu was down in less a day and the camera is overhyped - maybe with a good google camera port its possible to improve the quality but compared with the mate 20 - no chance
concerning the accu, i think i had a bad device, without sim card and without any connection, just in standby the phone lost 20% battery in 2 hours.
i selled the device because i can'f find the issue AND i'm a xiaomi fanboy.
sorry but i'm done with the mi9, the mi8 from my girlfriend is a super phone and just for my feelings - the camera of the mi8 is better as the mi9 (due to optical image stabilization)
since the mi9 was tested in dxomark and i had the chance to compare these two device i know dxomark is very very subjective.
I like Xiaomi phones and prefer MIUI to EMUI but in terms of hardware and camera quality Xiaomi doesn't have anything comparable to M20P yet.
johnnyman25 said:
Hi guys. I have mi9 64gb and it's very good phone in all categories but the 64gb fills too fast..
I'm thinking to switch to mate 20 pro (I had mate 10 pro for 6 months)
Is it worth?
What u recommend me to do?
Thx.
The power of the Mi 9 be with you
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If you are in rooting and stuff you will be disappointed with the mate 20 pro, bootloader unlock code costs money ranging from $20 to $50 may be more and that's only if the servers are up and running, like atm the service is dead.
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If you are in rooting and stuff you will be disappointed with the mate 20 pro, bootloader unlock code costs money ranging from $20 to $50 may be more and that's only if the servers are up and running, like atm the service is dead.
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If you're into that kind of thing it doesn't really make sense to buy Xiaomi or Huawei phones since neither company is developer friendly and there doesn't tend to be much development for either company's phones--and whatever development there is for Xiaomi phones tends to be for their Redmi devices since those sell in the largest numbers.
The XDA development threads for both the M20P and MI 9 are pretty empty.
Hardware mate 20 pro... Software mi9
So if u want a phone with a better camera, speakers, display, battery life, network strength etc then get a mate 20, it's even better than p30 pro (honestly this phone is wack and just a marketing and dishonest reviewers hype).
If u are one of the ones (like me) who just appreciate the software experience, animations, better themes then get anything else including mi9 ... Right now the Samsung oneUI is the best skin out there but miui is awesome as well