USB-C capabilities?? USBpens, HDD, HDMI etc?? - Huawei MediaPad M5 Questions & Answers

Anyone who knows the capabilities of the USB-C port?? Is it possible to use USBpens, external harddrives, card-reader etc? And how about USB-C to HDMI, a seller in a store told me he did it with his m5... But I have my doubts to whether that was "salesmens talk"...

Don't have an M5 yet (tomorrow), but the Mate SE (micro usb) port can be used for many things people are not aware of. For many things all you need is an OTG cable (usb-c or micro to usb). I've plugged in usb thumb drives and even a wireless keyboard and mouse using a logitech unifying receiver (first set usb connection to midi).
A quick search turned this usb-c to hdmi adapter on amazon, looks like there are many different ones available. Have never tried this with any of my android devices, but if they make these adapters, well it certainly gives one hope that it *might* work, it certainly must in some circumstances.
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Supporting-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B00X4S5C7G

I have a HDMI adapter I use for the Nintendo Switch (which also should work with Samsung devices) and that one doesn't work with my M5 8.4.
I also have a USB-C OTG adapter and a USB memory stick works, but I haven't yried anything else.

It doesn't appear that the M5 is capable of hdmi output. Mhl and slimport seem to be absent.

I used a USB c combo dongle , it had USB A female and sd card slot.
On holiday I used it to copy my gopro videos to ssd. It wasn't pushing usb 3 speeds and the system acts a little weird when it is plugged in - movies that are downloading on amazon or Google play would go to the ssd or sdcard plugged in from otg, even though I have an sdcard in the external asd slot

Doesn't seem to work as USB DAC with Hugo using UAPP

uzi2 said:
Doesn't seem to work as USB DAC with Hugo using UAPP
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Weird, I've tried it with Hugo 2 / UAPP playing hi-res flac and it seems to work fine. I set it in bit perfect mode and the bit rate indicator LED showed the correct bitrate. I did have to try a couple of unplug/replug to get the tablet to do some permission requests. It also worked with Youtube and the default Android audio system - though I did have to stop UAPP kicking in.

USB C can power external hard drive, and ive got one of those USB to 2.5in adapters that powers a 1tb toshiba laptop drive and that's ok too, the tablet also give me the option to reverse charge, so i presume it is capable of high amp output on the port, maybe up to 1A or more

I've tried an USB type-c to hdmi cable and it doesn't work , the same cable works on a P20 Pro.

Yeah the USB port isn't working correctly. It's supposed to be USB 3.0, but i am copying at 18MB/s (onto an SD card capable of 100MB/s)

Confirmed with Huawei it's USB 2.0
Seriously dissapointed, and I know it sounds silly but this device isn't useful without USB 3.0, I have an action camera and hence I copy video to internal SD card. What use is a device if you can't input/output to it fast enough.
email:
"Thank you for contacting Huawei Support.
The USB specification on the M5 tablet are:

HDM-Out does not work. I tried adding the necessary lines to the build.prop file as well with no success. Seems the hardware physically does not support MHL. We're stuck with MirrorShare which works pretty well.

Huawei M5 HDMI CABLE not supported
vibecatalin said:
I've tried an USB type-c to hdmi cable and it doesn't work , the same cable works on a P20 Pro.
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Have same experience. Really regret buying high end Huawei M5 and then realised I could not use it with HDMI cable. Wireless projection is really lag!

For folks with slow USB data issues, it mat be that you need a powered hub for it to work optimally. I've had this issue with a few Android devices over the years.

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[Q] Dual micro USB?

Hi together,
ive asked me if it is possible to use an adapter for 1x micro usb (plug) -> 2x micro usb (jack).
Could the phone handle 2 USB devices at the same time?
Maybe then it is possible to use the HDMI output and the USB host parallel?
For example to use an TV as screen and an HDD as the source for a movie.
This would be nice.
Thanks in advance.
macc
When the connector is used for HDMI I doubt it can be used as USB at the same time, I'n sorry.
Maybe in a few months cyanogenmod provides a hack, if there will be an dual adapter soon.
We will see. Thank you.
macc
The hardware needs to allow this if it'd become possible. You need a really smart USB dongle that knows how to split the HDMI output from the USB output.
Sounds a little too difficult to ever happen.
Hmm thats right. I think i still dream xD
But thank you.
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it is not possible. because as stated on this forum many times before, the type of usb connection is determined by the resistor between pin 4 and 5 of the micro usb connector. the strength can tell the phone, that there is either a charger, a pc connection, car kit, jig, usb otg or mhl connection present.
and i believe, this is an important thing to keep in mind for so many things:
for instance, why the original car kit triggers car mode and generic car charging cables don't or why not just any micro usb male to usb a female will work as a otg cable or why flashing should be done with the original usb cable...
so if you were to buy or build a micro usb hub, since it has no resistor in the very plug that connects to the phone, it cannot be used for anything but charging and quite frankly, i wouldn't connect more than one charger to the phone.
however, if you want to use your phone for presentations or watching movies and still be able to use it, get a bluetooth keyboard and mouse or a bluetooth presenter or do it the other way around and use a usb input device and transfer your media using allshare. everything else is physically impossible, so neither CM nor XDA can do anything about it. the only device that can do what you want is the new motorola. it has a separate micro usb and micro hdmi port and a docking station, so you can use it as a full notebook.
Thats obvious. Thank you.
macc

A5 ’17 USB OTG: a little research

One of the things I’m really amazed by with the modern PDAs is the USB OTG. So just as I found out that my Galaxy has it, I got myself an adapter (for less than $3) and tested it with several devices. Here’re my results:
USB flash drives: every single one I tried worked perfectly except a 1 GB drive of unknown vendor, which wasn't even recognized by the Galaxy, works okay with PCs thought.
External HDDs: the Toshiba 500 GB USB 3.0 drive wasn't recognized and didn't show any signs of life. Surprisingly, a 320 GB SATA WD Blue in a USB bay was detected and spinned up, but the Galaxy didn't recognize the file system and asked if I want to format it. I didn't, since the disk had some data I needed, but there's definitely a potential.
Input devices: all the mice and keyboards I tried worked as they should, both wired and wireless, which was expected. Which wasn't, is that DualShock3 controller from my PS3 was immediately recognized too without any additional drivers or software, it even let me control the menus. Sadly, that wasn't the case with my Logitech Freedom 2.4 wireless joystick. I guess the power wasn't enough.
Output​ devices: Sennheiser wired USB headset (basically, the USB sound adapter with the headset attached) worked as it should. HP LaserJet P1102 printer didn't work even with USB printing service installed.
Overally, I got much more then I dreamed of, especially since I heard that the OTG is very poor on a modern devices. DualShock3 success is especially cool.
This is quite weird as I have tried the original Samsung Micro USB OTG adapter, with the little white USB-C adapter and it did not work. This is on A3 2017.
There were rumors that USB OTG was disabled. Which adapter do you have?
W00fer said:
This is quite weird as I have tried the original Samsung Micro USB OTG adapter, with the little white USB-C adapter and it did not work. This is on A3 2017.
There were rumors that USB OTG was disabled. Which adapter do you have?
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The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
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The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
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Very interesting. A different pinout for OTG. Yeah I thought it was the combo that shoud have worked.
The little adapter comes with the device is said to be charge and sync. Because when connected to my PC it works. for data transfer.
http://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/usb_cables/KS-is-KS-297-Perehodnik-USB-AF-USB-C-M-OTG_279425.html
Here’s the one I got. The site is in Russian, but the pictures are self-explanatory.
I have an OTG now from Aliexpress. It works for my A3 2017. 90 degree angle connector.
Now onto an USB-C to HDMI. The official Samsung EE-HG950 does not work.
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The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
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So if i understand correctly the little "micro usb connector" that comes with the A5 2017 won't work for anything other than charging? I tried using it with a regular otg cable and it doesn't detect any flash drive, not even a ps3 controller, i don't even get the notification that a usb is plugged in.
But whats weird is if i use a male to male usb cable and connect to to a pc it works just fine. Any idea whats causing this?
Please help. I have the same problem. I have newly bought a5 2017. I already have otg usb drive sandisk. The adapter type c included in the box didn't work fine. Except only for charging when connected to usb 2.0.
My usb otg drive will become useless if it doesn't read by my device. What should i do? Or how to activate maybe my otg support? Tnx in advance.
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Please help. I have the same problem. I have newly bought a5 2017. I already have otg usb drive sandisk. The adapter type c included in the box didn't work fine. Except only for charging when connected to usb 2.0.
My usb otg drive will become useless if it doesn't read by my device. What should i do? Or how to activate maybe my otg support? Tnx in advance.
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The adapter from the box is just for charging and data transfer to compuer. If you want to use your flasdisk you can buy a new usb otg for type c slot.

Connecting z2 to HMDI

Hallo every one
I was at the market want to have cable to connect my z2 to my TV with HMDI
So there was to way to do this
1 from HMDI to micro USB
2 frome HMDI to normal USB and then cable to micro USB
And I like the choice nbr 2 because I can connect my laptop too
But Iam not sure if my phone will work
Did any one know about this before I buy it because it's costs 40€ and I must be sure.
many thanks.
Xperia Z2 has MHL so if you buy micro USB > HDMI it will work. (I don't know if it works on custom roms but on stock it should work properly).
USB in laptops/PCs cannot sync video due that video output is from graphics card and USB has nothing to do with graphics card.
Something else is if you have USB type C and if manufacturer guarantee that it can sync video.
Next case, that is price. 40€ for that? You will overpay! You can buy that for about 3€ on Aliexpress
Ah, but his Z2 is HMDI so it will never work
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Ah, but his Z2 is HMDI so it will never work
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Haha xD
Bumping: When buying an MHL adapter, make sure it's not made specifically for samsung devices, because there's no cross-compatibility. Talk about "standards".
PD: I tried buying one from gearbest. The package never arrived. Such is life in Bolivia.
Bumping again: someone knows how to connect MHL and OTG simultaneously on Z2?
Thanks in advance
No. It's not possible. At least not with the Z2.
The USB port, and the chipset only supports either USB mode, or MHL (hdmi) mode. Not both at the same time.
It can however charge the device while in MHL mode.
Even though there are multi port adapters out, the same thing goes. Either or. Not both.
Some other manufacturers devices DO support both modes simultaneously, but only through the special port and a special adapter for that particular device. I.e. Samsung 11 pin port for some galaxy variants.
If you're interested in keyboard and mice, there are Bluetooth capable keyboards and mice out there. That'll work.
For storage I'd suggest using a larger SD card in the SD card slot.

HDMI cable for your Galaxy S7 found at last

While looking to find a HDMI cable solution for my Moto Z, I came across a solution for the Galaxy S7.
- purchase this cable: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272686294141?clk_rvr_id=1297701036148&rmvSB=true
- enable USB debugging
- go to display in settings and set it to the highest resolution
- connect your phone to this cable using your original USB power cable
- Job done.... now you have a solution for connecting your Samsung Galaxy S7 to any TV via HDMI (works for the Moto Z as well using a usb C power cable)
Listing at ebay was already removed...
Try this:
https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Di...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=2M2695KH4352C43XXN94
Any displaylink hardware could send the image to the HDMI o VGA port. I have the Targus Multi Display Adapter and I'm able to connect my S7 to a VGA port or HDMI Port without any problem. You can connect a USB keyboard and mouse too! You only need to install the diplaylink app for android
There are many hardware with this technology
Does the ethernet port work with the Targus and S7?
I looking for cable for Samsung S7 it's even possible?
MHL (the primary hdmi to usb micro protocol) does NOT work with S7 or S7 Edge as of at least Nougat. They lost MHL on the 7 line actually, S6 DID support it. Unless MHL support was added in Oreo, I am highly suspect of the claim that this cable "works". I have a rif6 cube projector and this is one of my few phones/tablets that I still can't use on the included MHL microusb-hdmi cable (which works with numerous other Android devices). DisplayLink may work but is an entirely different premise. DisplayLink uses proprietary protocol to send encoded video over usb or wifi. With the display link app installed, yes you may be able to wired/wirelessly output your display but this is similar to screen casting and encodes the video, not a raw hdmi out video cable. DisplayLink also assumes you actually have a DisplayLink capable display or device to cast to (which I sure don't haha)
Can anyone confirm this is still working on latest oreo firmware?
Also, allebay.amazon links are dead, what should we search for?
I am interested in getting one of these until Christmas!
I second that. Can anybody confirm any of these work?
Seems plausible
I cant be sure, but I'm pretty sure you need the microusb to OTG connector that came with the s7....it allows you to plug in standard USB devices such as flash drives, game controllers, etc. You then purchase a VGA displayLINK (not displayport) external USB graphics card....plug vga from USB graphics card to tv/monitor.
USB device handles graphics control..
App acts as linux/android driver so no need for MHL anything....android is an OS...
Sounds workable.....
worth a 30 - 40$ RETURNABLE purchase.....
Looking for VGA displayLINK external USB Graphics card
Would love to try the below suggested solution. I have the Micro-USB to USB OTG adapter that came with the Samsung S7. I've got VGA cables and a tv that will accept VGA. What I don't have is the USB to VGA adapter that is described below. Can you point me to where I can buy the correct item?
I see some USB to VGA adapters on Amazon, but not sure if they'll work with this set up. I'm new to this forum so I can't post links to outside sites, but just search Amazon for "USB to VGA Converter, USB 3.0/2.0 to VGA External Video Card Multi Screen Display Converter Support Resolution 1080p for Win 7/8/8.1/10 Desktop Laptop PC Monitor Projector HDTV [No Need CD Driver] " and you'll find what I'm talking about.
I thought displayLINK was way to wirless mirror my screen. That's not what I'm looking for. I can already do that with Chromecast, ClickShare, etc. I want to have a cabled connection to have in places where I don't have an internet connection at all. This is for business presentations, so I'm not concerned about lag for gaming, nor am I concerned with perfect resolution or even audio. I just want to display screen of my Samsung S7 on a larger display with a cabled connection that doesn't require internet.
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I cant be sure, but I'm pretty sure you need the microusb to OTG connector that came with the s7....it allows you to plug in standard USB devices such as flash drives, game controllers, etc. You then purchase a VGA displayLINK (not displayport) external USB graphics card....plug vga from USB graphics card to tv/monitor.
USB device handles graphics control..
App acts as linux/android driver so no need for MHL anything....android is an OS...
Sounds workable.....
worth a 30 - 40$ RETURNABLE purchase.....
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Gadgets + Adaptors - how much do you gain by replacing them with "native" gadgets?

Gadgets + Adaptors - how much do you gain by replacing them with "native" gadgets?
Rather than "how much" the question should be "do you gain anything"?
So I have USB 3.0 dongles out the wazoo. An ethernet adaptor, a serial port adapter, an (unpowered) 3 port USB 3.0 hub + card reader, etc. And I have USB-C to USB 3.0 adapter.
Is there any reason to replace these gadgets? For instance, will a USB-C card reader transfer data faster than a USB 3.0 card reader plus an adapter cable? How about USB 3.0 thumb drives on the 3.0 hub?
I've found only one non-starter so far. I have a 100gb USB 3.0 power-over-USB hard drive that requires too much power. I didn't expect it to work because it draws too much power for my laptop unless the laptop is plugged into wall-power. My Insignia USB-C to hdmi/USB/usb-c power also doesn't support the hard drive. So I guess I need to look for another adapter! It _will_ work with a powered micro-USB to USB 2.0 dongle + micro-USB to USB-C adapter, but even I know that is a kluge beyond the pale.
I don't have a bluetooth keyboard, but both a USB keyboard and a Logitech keyboard with Universal RF / USB receiver work fine (although I can see the advantage to Bluetooth over both)
Besides HDMI, which seems to be touchy because of the power requirements (my Insignia adaptor seems to have "slow charging" issues), what kind of gadgets are you finding useful, and which ones do you need to update to USB-C?
Take care,
Joe
At least from the card reader perspective, I have speed tested using the adapter and no difference. I also use an adapter for my smart card reader without issue...and cheap adapters at that.
I think you need an all in one adapters (like USB's, SD card reader, ethernet, HDMI and usb type-c for charging) and effective internal components for transfer speed and power delivery.
I have an adapter from Ugreen 7 in 1 adapter and works great but if you can't find it you can probably get the same things from different brands.
For a keyboard and mouse, going with the all Bluetooth or one universal dongle like Logitech make sense but don't forget that if just use the keyboard and mice with the all in one dongle drains your battery a lot but if you have just type-c to usb 3.0 adapter or type-c to otg (whatever you call it) it is much for useful and you don't toggle Bluetooth always. But for Bluetooth you don't need to carry the adapters.
For HDMI, i am using the all in one or HDMI and power delivery adapter (from Ugreen too) but it depends on what i need.
So you always need different adapters for what you do. But i don't know about pluging the hub to a hub, but it is not useful and not looking good so one adapter is more effective.
But there is a problem with these adapters, they need power and it is not fast charging the tablet(but not slowly charging too just normal) with the adapter that come with so i think you have to have a PD charge for tablet when using adapters because it doesn't support QC3.0 (i tested but not fast charging).
Berkowich,
PD and QC3 charging is not something I'd heard of before. I've read some web pages now but have questions.. Because this is sort of a different topic I'll start a new thread. If you can respond, that would be great!
Thanks,
Joe

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