I'm torn between the Mate 20 Pro and the Mate 20X.
Both have same front camera which appears to be top notch (no pun intended!) and superior performance.
I'm fascinated by the AR capabilities of the Pro. Especially that one can actually make a 3D representation of an object that can be animated and incorporated into a photo or video.
I also really like the large screen on the 20X and that it's performance is optomized for entertainment related use with very good sound reproduction.
Who knows. I might end up getting both or neither if their capabilities were oversold.
So was wondering why would folk prefer one over the other.
Thanks!
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I'm torn between the Mate 20 Pro and the Mate 20X.
Both have same front camera which appears to be top notch (no pun intended!) and superior performance.
I'm fascinated by the AR capabilities of the Pro. Especially that one can actually make a 3D representation of an object that can be animated and incorporated into a photo or video.
I also really like the large screen on the 20X and that it's performance is optomized for entertainment related use with very good sound reproduction.
Who knows. I might end up getting both or neither if their capabilities were oversold.
So was wondering why would folk prefer one over the other.
Thanks!
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If you're really that undecided, I'd suggest to first buy the 20x. I'm guessing that giagantic display will appeal to very few people. It seems nice in theory, but I think it will pretty difficult to manage in practice.
Once you'll realise that the 20x is not for you, you'll return it and get the 20 pro instead and be happy with it.
I wouldn't put as deciding factors the 3d function. It's something you'll use a few times at the beginning and never touch again.
If you really do play that many games on your phone, enough to utilize the cooling of the 20x, I'd suggest to get a Switch and save some cash. But that's just a personal preferance, since I don't get mobile gaming.
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If you're really that undecided, I'd suggest to first buy the 20x. I'm guessing that giagantic display will appeal to very few people. It seems nice in theory, but I think it will pretty difficult to manage in practice.
Once you'll realise that the 20x is not for you, you'll return it and get the 20 pro instead and be happy with it.
I wouldn't put as deciding factors the 3d function. It's something you'll use a few times at the beginning and never touch again.
If you really do play that many games on your phone, enough to utilize the cooling of the 20x, I'd suggest to get a Switch and save some cash. But that's just a personal preferance, since I don't get mobile gaming.
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Thanks for your suggestion. I am worried about the state of development of the AR features. Could see it being rather buggy. Apparently, the software is not on current release but will appear in update. But I would definately use it as I have an interest in this.
Not sure yet but I would probably be happy with the screen size on Mate 20 X. I bought the First Galaxy Note, and Mi Mix when they came out and many folks initially said they were too big. But I was very hapoy with larger screen. So without trying it I don't know. The other thing is that I don't really want the Mate 20 X for gaming as I do very little of that. I'm more interested in it's sound systen as I Iike to play and record music.
Anyways, right now I'm leaning towards the 20X. But maybe I'm missing something about the Mate 20 Pro that would sway me more towards that.
The only thing the Huawei Mate 20 series has going for it is the X version with the larger screen and battery. If you are only interested in the Pro, you are better off with the Oneplus One 6T which is a far more polished and developed product. You can listen to the hype all you want but in reality there is not that much difference between the two.
mscion said:
Thanks for your suggestion. I am worried about the state of development of the AR features. Could see it being rather buggy. Apparently, the software is not on current release but will appear in update. But I would definately use it as I have an interest in this.
Not sure yet but I would probably be happy with the screen size on Mate 20 X. I bought the First Galaxy Note, and Mi Mix when they came out and many folks initially said they were too big. But I was very hapoy with larger screen. So without trying it I don't know. The other thing is that I don't really want the Mate 20 X for gaming as I do very little of that. I'm more interested in it's sound systen as I Iike to play and record music.
Anyways, right now I'm leaning towards the 20X. But maybe I'm missing something about the Mate 20 Pro that would sway me more towards that.
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Other than the in display finger print and facial unlock, there's none.
Almost forgot. The 20x has weaker cameras. It has the mate 20's cameras.
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Other than the in display finger print and facial unlock, there's none.
Almost forgot. The 20x has weaker cameras. It has the mate 20's cameras.
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That's wierd. I thought the 20X has the same camera as the Pro. For example they both have 40 mega pixel rear camera. Maybe there are other differences?
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Other than the in display finger print and facial unlock, there's none.
Almost forgot. The 20x has weaker cameras. It has the mate 20's cameras.
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The only thing the Huawei Mate 20 series has going for it is the X version with the larger screen and battery. If you are only interested in the Pro, you are better off with the Oneplus One 6T which is a far more polished and developed product. You can listen to the hype all you want but in reality there is not that much difference between the two.
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Never even considered the Oneplus One 6T. I'll have to check it out. Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 seems nice too. I thinks Xiaomi does a nice job with its user interface.
EDIT: OMG! Oneplus 6T live event is today! That's good timing!
The X and P r o have same cameras.
Old thread but in case anyone else with same question I'd say it's all about size. You want the bigger screen get the X otherwise the pro
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Hi d00ds,
I'm thinking of exchanging my pixel 2 for the mate 10 pro. What do you guys think?
I don't care for the camera as I barely use it on my pixel. Main things are software experience and battery life
Thanks!
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Hi!
The camera is the biggest drawback on this phone, but if you dont care about that the phone in general is great. Battery life is insane! 6 hours SOT without powersave. Lasts days if you turn down resolution and turn on powersave. There are useful functions in the Emui that I enjoy as well.
Get the regular Mate...best phone ever...put Nova on it. Camera is great.
Dont
Just DONT
Huawei P20 pro will be out end of this month.
Depends on the price.
If you love stock android, just wait for the whole treble thing to mature.
I came from years of Nexus / OnePlus devices. I simply HATE EMUI, even with Nova and everything changed to the max to fit what I would call a decent OS, EMUI makes it look like a hackjob...
But for me the Camera is great (coming from a OP5T) the stereo speakers are not the best thing ever (still sure the Nexus 6P had the best speakers... Sad Huawei didn't continue in that direction)
It of course also depends on what you want from a screensize point of view... (PS : The Screen is awesome)
Love it great camera not sure why people are slating it reviews are very positive too, battery best I've had easily a day and half with moderate usage. But my favourite feature is Emui projection perfect work tool for me using a hp lapdock
Thanks for the replies d00ds!
If I do ahead with the swap I can get the mate 10 pro for £529 from CPW sim free
Like I said before not bothered about the camera as I hardly use it. Just performance and battery life are most important to me
I'm hearing and reading different reviews on YouTube, some say the phone is a beast, while others say EMUI completely ruins the phone. So I'm at a bit of a crossroads
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Thanks for the replies d00ds!
If I do ahead with the swap I can get the mate 10 pro for £529 from CPW sim free
Like I said before not bothered about the camera as I hardly use it. Just performance and battery life are most important to me
I'm hearing and reading different reviews on YouTube, some say the phone is a beast, while others say EMUI completely ruins the phone. So I'm at a bit of a crossroads
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If a dedicated Dev is ready to work on the little tidbits, we could quite quickly have a good working AOSP base for our phones as I don't see many things missing (will maybe try to do a recap of I have time)
As no phone on the market suits me right now and I want to wait for the whole "1000+dollar phone with ugly notches" thing to calm down this phone is a great compromise and quite cheap to find sometimes.
Dude if u insist I am willing to trade u with a mate 10 regular not pro
It has a headphone jack. 2k display. Memory card and 16:9 screen.
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Thanks for the replies d00ds!
If I do ahead with the swap I can get the mate 10 pro for £529 from CPW sim free
Like I said before not bothered about the camera as I hardly use it. Just performance and battery life are most important to me
I'm hearing and reading different reviews on YouTube, some say the phone is a beast, while others say EMUI completely ruins the phone. So I'm at a bit of a crossroads
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I have the mate 10 pro from Vodafone. It really is a good phone. Battery amazing, camera amazing. Updates are fast ish. I've not had a fault with mine. . I've not even had the need to root it either
blackrome0 said:
Thanks for the replies d00ds!
If I do ahead with the swap I can get the mate 10 pro for £529 from CPW sim free
Like I said before not bothered about the camera as I hardly use it. Just performance and battery life are most important to me
I'm hearing and reading different reviews on YouTube, some say the phone is a beast, while others say EMUI completely ruins the phone. So I'm at a bit of a crossroads
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I would say do it, both phones are very good but as I've used a Huawei in the past I was used to EMUI, even though Nova is my launcher of choice
Only you can then experience first hand it its good enough for you but for the price point is definitely value for money
You can even pick up some bargains online and get it even cheaper if your not bothered
All the best
If the video camera matters to you, I'd say don't do it.
The video recording ability of this phone is the same as the mate 9. Any slight jolt or knock results in some strange wobbling video effect. I've tried with stabilisation and without.
I recorded a takeoff while on my way to the states and I wash shocked at how awful the quality was. My mate has an S8+ and I tried that for landing. The difference was astonishing.
The camera on the Mate 10 Pro is fabulous generally and I've taken to brilliant shots that trump may mates S8+ but I'm so very disappointed by the video recording. The video distortion is just so bad. My old Note 4 takes batter video with no jitter.
For this reason I'm contemplating getting rid of my Mate 10 pro. In so many areas it excels but video recording for me is important. Unless I find a way to reduce the jitter, its probably going.
What OIS system to Huawei use?
Hey,
After an upgrade of my HTC U11+. A bit stuck to be honest on which one to go with as they all have big pluses and minuses. I think my ideal phone would be the mate 20 pro hardware with pixel software.
Will give my pro's and minuses below, please feel free to comment and advise as you see fit.
Mate 20 pro
++ Big battery
+ Not bad price wise (especially with the free watch)
+ cameras
+ nice colours
- Lack of updates??
Pixel 3 XL
++ best software
+ great camera
+ great update support
+ great speakers
-- average battery life
-expensive
Oneplus 6T (based on rumours
+price
+Smooth UI
+good support
- camera probably wont be as good as the other 2
-speakers wont be as good
+/- battery in the middle
Out of these three I'd definitely go with the Mate 20 Pro. the Pixel is boring and too ugly and no features at all (I wouldn't consider it at all unless I absolutely need their camera) , OP6 is just cheap price but is missing wireless charging, QHD display, IP68, stereo speakers, camera will be just average, AOD display, desktop mode, raise to wake, knuckle gestures, secure face unlock, etc. But if you don't care about those, the OP6 will be faster/smoother than Mate 20 pro and maybe their underdisplay implementation could be a little bit faster but we'll see
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
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No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
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I'm really hopeful that we'll at least get root...... I've preordered the Mate 20 Pro and will be selling my Pixel 2 xl, hope I don't live to regret it! Worst case scenario I'll sell it and switch...
Well Pixel XL 3 is trash. I returned mine after 2 days.
Oneplus 6T is a bang for buck type of phone
Mate 20 Pro I'm having issues getting one imported
Probably didn't help much but aye.
Goronok said:
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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I think you hit the nail on the head regarding honeymoon period. I had (2) P20 Pro's and I loved the hardware/camera, but quickly became annoyed with the fact that EMUI just doesn't "work" as an android phone should. After using MIUI 10 on a Mix 2s for a few weeks, I would say that Xiaomi's derivative feels more natural to use. /sad
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*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
arghness said:
Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Had someone on Reddit confirm that the lockscreen is still the same. Some have said it is a bug, but seems working as intended to me. (Been a "bug" since EMUI 8.1)
I haven't inquired about backgrounding issues. Not much point. This has been a thing with EMUI since day 1. (And other China OEMs too)
Thanks for the replies very helpful. I know the mate 20 pro is the best out of the bunch its whether i can live with EMUI. I had this in the past with samsung s6 edge, loved the phone but hated the software and ended up getting rid of it very quickly. I think if the pixel was £100 cheaper or had a bigger battery i would 100% go with that for the software experience.
The decision would be so much easier if they allowed bootloader unlock and custom roms would solve half the issues! Still no closer to the decision.
A couple of extra points
Mate 20 curved screen will be a pain for glass screen protectors so thats a -
Still cant work out if the UK model is single sim or dual sim! (says its micro sd expandable so is that where the extra sim goes)
I think the camera will be just as good as the pixel...in some ways better because of the wide angle lens etc. The pixel 3 probably will be the best point and shoot but I don't think either will dissapoint you
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
Phil750123 said:
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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See i went with sim free but what got me here is 50 quid more for mate, and free watch and charger is 250, so basically mate is working out 200 quid cheaper and 6gb ram vs the 4 and this massive battey, when pixie 3 battery is sitting at 3400 compared to my pixel 2 xl 3500 with a smaller screen? Impulse buy but hey, if we somehow hate it, or cant get used to it... Swap or sell after few months right? It aint a new car xd
It's very easy : get the pixel 3 and then youll want to get the mate 20 Pro for sure!
Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Pretty excited about this as well, I'm pretty sure I will still average about 6000 mah a day, I almost always charge from like 50 to 90% using wireless charging while at work but for the days I forgot to wireless charge, the fact that even if I get home with less than 5% and just plugging it in for like 15 minutes (instead of like 40 minutes like my note 9) and being back to like 40% to finish the day is amazing.
I agree
I purchased a Note 9 when it was released and loved it but eventually caught the Huawei/Honor bug and ended up selling the Note 9. After I'm now looking for a phone to replace it and the only one that takes my fancy is the Mate 20 Pro.
My question is - Is it worth it? Is there a better Huawei/Honor phones that would be a better purchase at this point?
Thank you x
If you are able to wait until end of March, the new P30 pro is rumored to have a similar screen size but should have improved cameras.
Otherwise, the mate 20 pro is probably their best (or p20 pro if you want a smaller size which I'm guessing you don't).
I would only say that if you take a lot of selfies, you will probably be disappointed (fixed focus, post processing is meh) but otherwise, lots of flexibility with the cameras and I personally use nova launcher so I don't see their original Gui which is often a complaint.
Edit: you could also check the Mate 20 X. Bigger screen (7.2") and stylus support if that's your thing. Same cameras. Waterdrop type notch (no face id) and you lose a few extras like ip68.
I think it would be wise to wait at the moment. Not only have we got the P30 series soon but also the Galaxy 10 range later this month and they look like they might be quite good.
No why support a company that has turned its back on developers by not allowing unlocking the bootloader after allowing it for so long
Wait for s10 or p30.
i decided to ditch the mate 20 pro after a month. (poor battery life compared to p20 pro and regular mate 20) and the screen issues.
i went to for the bigger mate 20 x as a second phone (media games internet etc) cuz of its battery, screen, speakers, real FP scanner, no screen issues and the same cameras as the mate 20 pro.
waiting for the s10 plus to replace my note 9 as a primary phone
Thanks for all the replies. Personally don't care about bootloaders and I never root my phones anymore. But concerned about the amount of replies telling me not to go for it.
As I'm currently using a £250 mid-range Honor Play phone, I'm really wanting to upgrade asap and with the deals on new mate 20 pros at £600 floating around, I still may ignore advice and go for it! I guess I could always upgrade again in a few months time to the P30 or S10!
Thanks again for all the replies, I appreciate it.
Don't get me wrong. Personally, I think it's a great phone and if you're in the market for an upgrade and don't care about timing then go for it. I was merely saying that if you're after the latest and greatest then waiting a few extra weeks might be prudent.
I've not rooted a phone for ages, I don't think there's really the need so much now that Android has gotten so much better over the years, so that aspect doesn't worry me either.
Love the mate 20 Pro and that's coming from a note 9. Software not as refined as sammys with a few glitches but works well
I sold my P20 Pro and got the Mate 20 Pro .. much better. IMO I'd grab a M20P if you find one at a good price, the P30 Pro won't be cheap and I doubt the specs will over shadow the M20P, maybe better camera (slightly) and no notch .. not flagship selling points worth the higher price if compared to a discounted M20P.
My 2 cents ..
Let me start by saying that I am not attacking his character or calling him clueless in general, but he is obviously amateur to when it comes to using Huawei's phones.
I always thought the results he gets from his P30 Pro are way off when compared to the results other reviewers get from their phones, or from the ones I get from my P30 Pro. They're always overly saturated with tons of contrast. And I never understood the reason until I watched his OP 7 Pro vs S10+ vs P30 Pro camera comparison. And as someone who had the S10+ before this phone, and with my wife still owning her S10+, I know that 8/10 times, the S10 will give you the more saturated picture, which isn't the case with Mrwhosetheboss. Then I finally found out why is this the case with his phone, as it turned out that he is using the Smooth Colors option because he thinks, and I believe based on the name of the mode, it generates less saturation while using this mode. He mentioned this twice in his review, so it's obvious he uses this mode all the time, thus why the P30 Pro in this test lost miserably to the S10 and OP 7 Pro, as the P30 Pro pictures were coming out extremely cartoonish with crushed details in the shadows as if you're using a vignette filter all over your pictures.
I believe that while Huawei are taking these so called professional reviewers on cruise trips all over Europe, they also should educate them on how to use their phones so that they won't spread misinformation to the masses without them realizing that they're doing that.
I apologize for the longass rant, and for my average English.
Finally someone will write something about this person. His tests are absolutely incorrect, I blocked him and I no longer look at his reviews
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Finally someone will write something about this person. His tests are absolutely incorrect, I blocked him and I no longer look at his reviews
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Maybe he got some extra money to judge like that..
All these paid reviews are actually not worth watching. Find those smaller youtubers who buy the device for themselves and test it.
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All these paid reviews are actually not worth watching. Find those smaller youtubers who buy the device for themselves and test it.
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It's a double edged sword. People who purchase a certain phone (usually because they are interested in it) can also often be huge fanboys of a brand/product, saying crap to validate their purchase, ie. "this $800 phone I just purchased is great, otherwise I'd look like a total idiot!"
That and the fact that they usually don't have the option to compare with so many phones since they have to pay for them.
But there are youtubers where you can easily spot the fact that it's a paid review in some way. Money weighs more than integrity for most people.
Of course
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It's a double edged sword. People who purchase a certain phone (usually because they are interested in it) can also often be huge fanboys of a brand/product, saying crap to validate their purchase, ie. "this $800 phone I just purchased is great, otherwise I'd look like a total idiot!"
That and the fact that they usually don't have the option to compare with so many phones since they have to pay for them.
But there are youtubers where you can easily spot the fact that it's a paid review in some way. Money weighs more than integrity for most people.
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The best thing to do before buying any phone, is watch few reviews from the YouTubers you trust, then head to reddit and XDA to read more from those who bought the device and actually used it.
He always gives positive critics on new products and then after some months stop support his opinion because he don't paid any more. Remember this, when mate 30 pro will launch he would say how incredible camera it has(even if it will have same camera as p30 pro)
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He always gives positive critics on new products and then after some months stop support his opinion because he don't paid any more. Remember this, when mate 30 pro will launch he would say how incredible camera it has(even if it will have same camera as p30 pro)
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The thing with the P30 Pro is that he obviously had been using this mode since day one, but until yesterday we knew why his pictures and videos were looking like crap.
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The thing with the P30 Pro is that he obviously had been using this mode since day one, but until yesterday we knew why his pictures and videos were looking like crap.
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I doubt he even updated his firmware. Most reviewers didn't hence why their videos are extra reddish.
Ultimately i guess, waiting a month or two for real reviews on xda or reddit would be the best.
But hye, most of us can't wait , get it on day 1 and regret about it later :laugh: Im quite happy with my p30 pro since updates are quite frequent and most of the color corrections are fixed.
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I doubt he even updated his firmware. Most reviewers didn't hence why their videos are extra reddish.
Ultimately i guess, waiting a month or two for real reviews on xda or reddit would be the best.
But hye, most of us can't wait , get it on day 1 and regret about it later :laugh: Im quite happy with my p30 pro since updates are quite frequent and most of the color corrections are fixed.
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I agree. The S10+ was the first flagship phone I have ever sold less than one month after owning it, and that was because I knew no matter what Samsung does, their lowlight photography won't improve drastically with software updates.
The P30 Pro was also a bit frustrating when I first got it, but from my experience with the P20 Pro, I knew Huawei was going to address the issues and more, and I am extremely satisfied with all the improvements Huawei has brought with their updates.
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I knew Huawei was going to address the issues and more, and I am extremely satisfied with all the improvements Huawei has brought with their updates.
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Would be fair if you rename or make any corrections to your own thread about TOF sensor. With latest updates it does work and hopefully is going to be improved in the future.
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Would be fair if you rename or make any corrections to your own thread about TOF sensor. With latest updates it does work and hopefully is going to be improved in the future.
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While I love my P30 Pro, I'm not going to be biased towards Huawei and give them a pass on something that is obviously not working, or at least not doing anything they promised us it will.
As you can read from the responses on that thread, the vast majority of those who tested my experiment of covering the tof sensor, are still reporting that either way, they came with the same results whether it's the camera app or the AR Measure app.
I'm on .153, and I tested everything, from portrait shots to aperture mode, to night shots, and also low light scenarios, and still, there is ZERO difference between the pictures I get when the tof is covered or uncovered.
Maher.k22 said:
While I love my P30 Pro, I'm not going to be biased towards Huawei and give them a pass on something that is obviously not working, or at least not doing anything they promised us it will.
As you can read from the responses on that thread, the vast majority of those who tested my experiment of covering the tof sensor, are still reporting that either way, they came with the same results whether it's the camera app or the AR Measure app.
I'm on .153, and I tested everything, from portrait shots to aperture mode, to night shots, and also low light scenarios, and still, there is ZERO difference between the pictures I get when the tof is covered or uncovered.
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Try covering it when using thining /re shaping during video?
I think this goes for a lot of those 'celebrity reviewers' on Youtube, most of them are clueless and to be honest quite stupid. They simply review the unit to make money, if what they say and do is wrong seems to be of no importance. Personally i never watch those videos anymore, they have become more of a joke than something to take seriously.
/ Magnus
The P30 Pro's camera capabilities have come a long way if you factor in the improvements from .153 (and now .162 supposedly).
If some of these YT can ensure they're running the latest available firmware, it'll definitely help paint a clearer and more accurate picture but I understand this isn't always possible because of the timings of the video.
Coming from .124, I definitely noticed an improvement but not convinced if all these reviewers are also on it.
yes he is..you can see his latest review for op7p vs n10p vs p30p. seems obvious he is doing for the sake of money instead of real passion
My P30 pro has almost the same issue. Brown skin tones are applied to a heavy contrast effect making them look unnatural (not on smooth color)
This to an extent of making me want to sell the damn thing. I'm assuming it has to do with RYYB sensor. My kid ends up looking like decorated chocolate while the other one (who is on the fairer side) always comes out looking far better and natural.
But then again, Samsung sucks at snapping subjects unless they're completely still, which is next to impossible with kids.
My other gripe is not being able to switch to HDR with just a click instead of having to swim my way through the menu.
I'm hoping software fix is around the corner.
So Mr. whosetheboss comparison isn't all that wrong...his skin tone will ALWAYS be oversaturated, and I believe this is to do with the sensor.
dule2303 said:
Finally someone will write something about this person. His tests are absolutely incorrect, I blocked him and I no longer look at his reviews
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Maher.k22 said:
Let me start by saying that I am not attacking his character or calling him clueless in general, but he is obviously amateur to when it comes to using Huawei's phones.
I always thought the results he gets from his P30 Pro are way off when compared to the results other reviewers get from their phones, or from the ones I get from my P30 Pro. They're always overly saturated with tons of contrast. And I never understood the reason until I watched his OP 7 Pro vs S10+ vs P30 Pro camera comparison. And as someone who had the S10+ before this phone, and with my wife still owning her S10+, I know that 8/10 times, the S10 will give you the more saturated picture, which isn't the case with Mrwhosetheboss. Then I finally found out why is this the case with his phone, as it turned out that he is using the Smooth Colors option because he thinks, and I believe based on the name of the mode, it generates less saturation while using this mode. He mentioned this twice in his review, so it's obvious he uses this mode all the time, thus why the P30 Pro in this test lost miserably to the S10 and OP 7 Pro, as the P30 Pro pictures were coming out extremely cartoonish with crushed details in the shadows as if you're using a vignette filter all over your pictures.
I believe that while Huawei are taking these so called professional reviewers on cruise trips all over Europe, they also should educate them on how to use their phones so that they won't spread misinformation to the masses without them realizing that they're doing that.
I apologize for the longass rant, and for my average English.
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Why u two rely only on him? Check more vids linus ranting Huawei all time because he is an a***ole because everything from china is s**t for him..
Best is to test device by self
he isnt boss, he is mrwhosethef*ck
-He Doesnt use Huawei HDR mode.
-He Doesnt know that you can use HDR with the telephoto lens while zooming (this guy really annoyed me with that "better dynamic range in the photo while zooming in the note 10")
-He avoid to point out that P30 pro can use nightmode in all 3 lenses.
-He praise the galaxy and say crap like "personal taste" when talking about the over the top vibrancy colors on the note 10, but tries to throw shade to P30 pro colors even if the photo is better.
-He complains about the 3x portrait in the P30 pro but praise that samsung finally used the 2x in portraits
-He avoid talking about the SuperMacro mode in the P30 pro and once again dont use HDR. (what an awful macro test by the way)
-I dont even think his phone is up to date.
I dont want to rant but i think sometimes i want a review that doesnt look like a advertisement (no matter the brand) this guy and mrwhostheboss , sometimes do some low level reviews and comparisons, they just wanna milk the views the first few days until the next phone comes out.
He has done a lot of work with Samsung so it's not surprising really..
Don't trust the opinion of any Youtube 'reviewer' that constantly gets sent free stuff from the big brands. They are nothing more than paid advertisements. For example, I know for a fact that UnboxTherapy gets paid to attend launch events and is also paid to unbox products on his channel. He attended a launch event for Honor in London a few years back and had his hotel, flights and expenses all paid for and received a suitcase full of devices to give away.
It sounds like the next best thing even if it is not, this is the way to get views ATM the Note 10 is the hot topic for Youtube views even if people don't think that is correct this is how they make money just my 2 cents.
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Yeah, I saw his last comparison video with p30 pro and note 10 plus. The p30 pro results in that video was just horrible... HORRIBLE.
And something start to look very fishy here...
That is why for the moment I TRUST mainly 2 YouTubers - MrMobile (Michael Fisher. I follow him since pocketnow) and SomeGadgetGuy (Juan Bagnell - knowing him as well from his time at pocketnow). Michael Fisher is ALWAYS realistic and Juan Bagnell is painfully honest . I'm not doing any advertising here. Just really enjoy watching their reviews.
Leave it man. It's not worth watching reviews. Reviews always make it look like there is a big difference between 2 products. In reality there is not. It's really hard to tell difference in reality. I will be soon unsubscribing to all major youtubers because all are same and the result is always expected nowadays. It's not that they are bad but predictable.
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Leave it man. It's not worth watching reviews. Reviews always make it look like there is a big difference between 2 products. In reality there is not. It's really hard to tell difference in reality. I will be soon unsubscribing to all major youtubers because all are same and the result is always expected nowadays. It's not that they are bad but predictable.
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I think most of these 'reviewers' are just shills for the manufacturers. On the grand scale of things I really don't see much difference between the Samsung's and the P30 Pro. Personal preference on screen dpi, camera ability and the fact that the Samsung has 801.11ax at this present moment is hardly a selling point (although he made it sound like it is future proofed and MUST be better). Most people will only have the phone for 2-3 years before upgrading so that is a moot point in 2019. Oh, notice how he didn't mention the 50x zoom ability on the P30P either. Yes it is digital, but hell it's the only phone I know that has that ability!
Honestly, even with all the hoo-haa surrounding Huawei at the moment, I've just got myself the P30 Pro (I'm in the UK). Why?
Because the camera is awesome. Because the screen is awesome (I came from an Honor 9 with IPS LCD!). Because the sound on headphones is amazing! The colour of the phone looks like unicorn puke, but it's 'different'. I have no problem with EMUI (coming from an Honor 9!) Have you watched some HDR footage from Youtube or Netflix yet on your P30P? Just wow! No headphone port but hey, most people use BT headsets now anyway!
Don't get me wrong, it (P30P) is not without it's faults but I'm yet to see a perfect phone for everyone!
As you can see from my phone history below I had a OnePlus One when they were a thing. They weren't the best at the time but they were 'different' (they came with CM installed ffs, until it all went pear shaped. And even then they came out with their own OS called Oxygen which I hear is pretty good! Which on the grand scale of things bodes well for Huawei).
My 2p worth!
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I think most of these 'reviewers' are just shills for the manufacturers. On the grand scale of things I really don't see much difference between the Samsung's and the P30 Pro. Personal preference on screen dpi, camera ability and the fact that the Samsung has 801.11ax at this present moment is hardly a selling point (although he made it sound like it is future proofed and MUST be better). Most people will only have the phone for 2-3 years before upgrading so that is a moot point in 2019. Oh, notice how he didn't mention the 50x zoom ability on the P30P either. Yes it is digital, but hell it's the only phone I know that has that ability!
Honestly, even with all the hoo-haa surrounding Huawei at the moment, I've just got myself the P30 Pro (I'm in the UK). Why?
Because the camera is awesome. Because the screen is awesome (I came from an Honor 9 with IPS LCD!). Because the sound on headphones is amazing! The colour of the phone looks like unicorn puke, but it's 'different'. I have no problem with EMUI (coming from an Honor 9!) Have you watched some HDR footage from Youtube or Netflix yet on your P30P? Just wow! No headphone port but hey, most people use BT headsets now anyway!
Don't get me wrong, it (P30P) is not without it's faults but I'm yet to see a perfect phone for everyone!
As you can see from my phone history below I had a OnePlus One when they were a thing. They weren't the best at the time but they were 'different' (they came with CM installed ffs, until it all went pear shaped. And even then they came out with their own OS called Oxygen which I hear is pretty good! Which on the grand scale of things bodes well for Huawei).
My 2p worth!
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I know man. I used to watch a lot of phone reviews and honestly it doesn't matter much now. Every phone is great in some way or other. I had people argue with me online a lot on why p30 pro is not a good phone, even though they never held it in their hands.
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Yeah, I saw his last comparison video with p30 pro and note 10 plus. The p30 pro results in that video was just horrible... HORRIBLE.
And something start to look very fishy here...
That is why for the moment I TRUST mainly 2 YouTubers - MrMobile (Michael Fisher. I follow him since pocketnow) and SomeGadgetGuy (Juan Bagnell - knowing him as well from his time at pocketnow). Michael Fisher is ALWAYS realistic and Juan Bagnell is painfully honest . I'm not doing any advertising here. Just really enjoy watching their reviews.
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I Totally agree with you. :good:
Gioeli said:
Yeah, I saw his last comparison video with p30 pro and note 10 plus. The p30 pro results in that video was just horrible... HORRIBLE.
And something start to look very fishy here...
That is why for the moment I TRUST mainly 2 YouTubers - MrMobile (Michael Fisher. I follow him since pocketnow) and SomeGadgetGuy (Juan Bagnell - knowing him as well from his time at pocketnow). Michael Fisher is ALWAYS realistic and Juan Bagnell is painfully honest . I'm not doing any advertising here. Just really enjoy watching their reviews.
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I've been watching Michael Fisher forever...since pocket now as well. He is the only one I trust. But even his opinions don't sway what I want. I have to try everything for myself to make a valid opinion.
Opinions should be ALWAYS and ONLY based on personal experience. Reviewers (if they are realistic) should only guide you to certain point...but not creating strong opinion in your mind for products you didn't try yourself.