Big Face Unlock SECURITY ISSUE - Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion

There is one big problem with this phone.
I'm a guy of 18 and mi 8 always unlock my younger sisters and a friend of mine.
How can an algorithm be so bad written? I can understand if it unlock twins brother or sister (in fact it does, i made an attempt some days ago).
I cannot accept that a flagship phone unlocks both my sister (and we don't look alike) and a friend of mine - he is completely different, he has a very dark skin and I have a pale skin, the eye's color is different, the nose shape either.
I also tried to unlock my friend's phone (huawei p20 lite with no ir or dedicated hardware for face unlock!!) and the attempt was unsuccessful (so huawei algorithm is better I guess)
The last try was to register his face and then try to unlock. I wasn't able to unlock it. So my dear xiaomi thinks me = my friend but my friend ≠ me
Is there a way to use a different algorithm? Or maybe Xiaomi could fix this...
Do not think that's just my problem. It's possible that one day somebody will take your phone and unlock it without pin / fingerprint, and i read other thread about this issue.
Sorry for my bad English.

Just use another method of security

It's been said again and again that face unlock is meant more for convenience than for security.
Seems you are the only person who has problems understanding this fact.
Use your fingerprint for security and can also save yourself some battery drain.

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Did we just buy a brick for a phone?

Please delete this thread and please ban me and people who are calling me a troll, this is for you, (check the date):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77495198&postcount=17
Hi there, there might be some issues with Pocophone in general and your device in particular but all this hate is absolutely uncalled for. If you are not happy with it - return it or sell it. It is just a $300 phone, what did you expect?
Neznam123 said:
Hi there, there might be some issues with Pocophone in general and your device in particular but all this hate is absolutely uncalled for. If you are not happy with it - return it or sell it. It is just a $300 phone, what did you expect?
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This device is made for gaming, but you can't play games and when you complain against it, "it's just a $300 phone, what do you expect?" dude, why it has a SD845 if touch issue is a norm? why didn't they put SD430 in it? a lot of people have this issue.
As the last user replies, there's no reason to hate it for being a little worse than 500$ devices. For the money you're spending its definitely the best device you could buy right now.
1. Sound issues - Software fix will work.
2. DRM issues - Another software fix.
3. Multi touch issue - Check the thread someone posted a solution, though most of us never faced it.
4. Lag/Frame drop issues - Never faced in the games I've played but 845 is more than capable of not having frame drops, so its just software optimization again.
5. Battery and Heating - I never saw 50 C on my poco and my other devices remain there even after moderate use so its better. (Ambient temperature is high in my area) and the battery lasts forever. My standby usage on 4g mobile data was 0.3% yesterday (3.5 hr in 1% drop) and SOT is consistently using just 10-15% per hour which roughly translates to 7-8 hour of SOT and at least 6 hours for a heavy user, tell me one 845 device capable of this?
And Jai Mani from poco does see our tweets and repiles too, they're working on DRM fix currently, notifications on notch area are also being looked into and they resolved the bootloader unlock issue so fast, I'm hoping they'll fix the other minor things too.
narora9999 said:
As the last user replies, there's no reason to hate it for being a little worse than 500$ devices. For the money you're spending its definitely the best device you could buy right now.
1. Sound issues - Software fix will work.
2. DRM issues - Another software fix.'
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I don't know what world you live in, but for solving DRM issues, OTA won't work in this one
Multitouch issue is a major issue and the device is useless unless this issue is solved. A lot of users are facing this issue and I am not alone apart from PUBG keyboard is very slow and lags, touch has a delay, inaccuracy in selecting texts. With these kinds of problem SD845 is useless because input devices are limiting the hardware capability.
If you have ever taken Computer Science 101, a input device should be as responsive and accurate as possible else using a fast processor on a slow input device is as stupid as it gets.
regarding the reply, I have made multiple queries on the forum and filed 2 bug reports, and even quoted few admins and mods, they aren't even replying.
And if they still think that it's normal then they should take this device and refund me my money, which they are not doing. I had to convince them for about the issue for at least 2 hours and best they did was replacing the device but I don't want this **** and will never buy phones from Xiaomi ever again unless the devices are thoroughly tested and bugs are fixed.
shailendra1993 said:
I don't know what world you live in, but for solving DRM issues, OTA won't work in this one
Multitouch issue is a major issue and the device is useless unless this issue is solved. A lot of users are facing this issue and I am not alone apart from PUBG keyboard is very slow and lags, touch has a delay, inaccuracy in selecting texts. With these kinds of problem SD845 is useless because input devices are limiting the hardware capability.
If you have ever taken Computer Science 101, a input device should be as responsive and accurate as possible else using a fast processor on a slow input device is as stupid as it gets.
regarding the reply, I have made multiple queries on the forum and filed 2 bug reports, and even quoted few admins and mods, they aren't even replying.
And if they still think that it's normal then they should take this device and refund me my money, which they are not doing. I had to convince them for about the issue for at least 2 hours and best they did was replacing the device but I don't want this **** and will never buy phones from Xiaomi ever again unless the devices are thoroughly tested and bugs are fixed.
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Please verify your information about DRM, oneplus 5 and 5T had the same issue of netflix hd and they resolved it via update(Yeah the update had to be done at service center only). I've taken every computer science involved in engineering (a CS engineer myself) and I understand your concern but somebody did post a fix for that. I've faced the touch issue in my other phone while charging which was due to a buggy kernel so its definitely debatable that it could be a software issue.
I had a speaker distortion issue, my replacement was arranged instantly over phone (Flipkart).
source: https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t-netflix-amazon-prime-video-hd/
1. Sound issues - We will solve it soon
I've no idea what's that. Can you explain?
2. DRM issues - Just don't watch netflix or prime in HD because we have loads of money to have HD plan but can't watch it.
The phone doesn't support V1 out of the box, most of the Xiaomi phones doesn't support. Heck even the One Plus 5/5t also doesn't support. You get what you pay. To make it clear, I don't believe it can be fixed by a software since it requires secured machine to update the phone which only OEM's use. Only way Xiaomi can fix it by asking customers to visit Service center and updating the V1 from their machine. Otherwise, just forget about it.
3. Multi touch issue - what do you expect from a $300 phone?
No such issues here.
4. Lag/Frame drop issues - What do you expect from a budget phone
No frame drops, lag issues. Source? I play PUBG 4-5hrs per day and never faced that issue. PS: It's not a budget phone.
5. Battery and Heating - Every phone has it, what is the problem?
So what if the phone gets heated, it'll heat when you do intensive tasks, I guess you've never used a flagship phone in your life? All top high end CPU's like SD835/845 etc generate heat. Xiaomi did great job in keeping it cool, my phone never crossed 50+ during games.
May be you should stick to Samsung J7 phones. That's what you're meant to use.
Use what you like and stop cribbing about it. You don't like Poco F1, use iPhone X or any other high end Android phone. You pay $300 and you want a phone to behave like $1000? No phone is perfect including the iPhone X/Samsung Note 9.
I've been using Poco F1 from last 1 week and so far I'm in love with this phone.
Wow... so much hate, and most of us had no issues with phone what so ever. What gives you the right to be hater and try to generalize some problems that 95% people never experience?
shailendra1993 said:
Is poco F1 nothing but a brick?
It has top specs like SD845 and UFS 2.1 and all but we have a few issue and what other people are suggesting?
1. Sound issues - We will solve it soon
2. DRM issues - Just don't watch netflix or prime in HD because we have loads of money to have HD plan but can't watch it.
3. Multi touch issue - what do you expect from a $300 phone?
4. Lag/Frame drop issues - What do you expect from a budget phone
5. Battery and Heating - Every phone has it, what is the problem?
etc
Tell me, did we just buy this phone for the sake of having a SD845 and liquid cooling system and not use it properly?
Is this device only capable of calculating 2+2 and no heavy work?
This device's name should be named Poco Compromise 1 instead...​
BELIEVE ME I HAVE USED A LOT OF XIAOMI PHONES, I KNOW HOW THEY WORK:
I have used Redmi 2/Prime,3S/Prime,Note 3/4/5, Mi4i - Do you know Mi4i? This **** was launched as a Flagship in India but they ****ed us up.During the first month, they provided support although few people won't call it a support because for the heating issue they released a fix, that arsehead Barra called it their pathbreaking thermal config, when the developers looked at the config they found out that those idiots permanently turned off 2 cores of the SD615. Later when the hype died, they slept as they do everytime and after just 1 year the SOT of that phone dropped to 1 hour even when the device was used minimally. Because of their pathbreaking config, SD615 earned a bad name for being a non-battery friendly processor, although Moto G Turbo had the same processor and was one of the best device during that time.
I URGE YOU ALL (THOSE WHO HAVE TOUCH ISSUES) TO COMPLAIN WHEREVER YOU CAN SO THAT XIAOMI WILL AT LAST EITHER FIX THIS ISSUE OR TELL US IF IT IS A HARDWARE ISSUE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE AND THE HYPE DIES. JUST WRITE IT ANYWHERE YOU WANT, AFTER A MONTH OR WHENEVER POCO ANNOUNCES A NEW DEVICE ALL THE HYPE WILL SUDDENLY DIE AND NO ONE WILL CARE ABOUT THE ISSUES, SO DO SOMETHING WHILE THE TIME IS RIGHT!!!!
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Dude. Just come on already. You keep making it sound worse each time you post the same thing.
Sound issue : A software bug nothing new. It'll get fixed if not improved in the later updates
DRM - Frankly if you had "loads" of money, then why didn't you put your trust in samsung or Apple. Leave Xiaomi to budgeteers.
Multi touch - Every one knows they made the biggest compromise in the display/touch panel. But most touch issues are due to gestures. Can be optimised.
Lag/Frame drops - unless you are playing emulator games from PS2, this is impossible. I play PUBG for 2-3 hrs every day.
Battery/heating - When you turn the best feature of a device into its worst, then it makes people think you ahve some kinda agenda here. Avg SOT is 9 hrs and max temp during intense gaming 40+ which comes down in 2 secs.
Only capable of 2+2, really? I had a legitimate argument going on with touch/display compromises but now.
I ordered mine earlier today. God help me lol
narora9999 said:
Please verify your information about DRM, oneplus 5 and 5T had the same issue of netflix hd and they resolved it via update(Yeah the update had to be done at service center only). I've taken every computer science involved in engineering (a CS engineer myself) and I understand your concern but somebody did post a fix for that. I've faced the touch issue in my other phone while charging which was due to a buggy kernel so its definitely debatable that it could be a software issue.
I had a speaker distortion issue, my replacement was arranged instantly over phone (Flipkart).
source: https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t-netflix-amazon-prime-video-hd/
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The only phone I have ever heard that the DRM was changed is OP5 others had to stick with whatever version they got. Apart from that the certificate change requires physical connection with an authenticated computer i.e. the company's computer that means about 7-10 days for those who live outside cities like Mumbai and Delhi and since very few (or none of) Xiaomi phones in India has L1 Widevine support all the legal hassles and paperwork will be so tedious that they will either charge you for that or won't do it.
Multitouch issue is different from what you are referring, check the following bug report and video:
Bug report:http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3746297
Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5K2N6McC_s
P.S. I also have a CS degree and multiple certifications on Programming and Ethical Hacking from Lynda,Pluralsight,Udemy,etc.
Daruwalla said:
1. Sound issues - We will solve it soon
I've no idea what's that. Can you explain?...
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Dude, I am not saying those things, that is actually what people are replying when someone says that they are having a problem with the phone
BELIEVE ME I HAVE USED A LOT OF XIAOMI PHONES, I KNOW HOW THEY WORK: So assuming you knew they treat you the wrong way all the time, why spend money on them again, and DRM issue for Xiaomi is well known, if you are familiar with their phones, why would you be shocked to know it now?
Maybe you are just angry!! Channelize it on the Xiaomi and Flipkart social feeds and your problem has higher chance of being solved.
Seems like OP got a bad unit.Sound issue and multitouch issue will be fixed in next update.Except Widevine L1 support, all thing said by you is wrong. No issue here, bought in first sale.
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BELIEVE ME I HAVE USED A LOT OF XIAOMI PHONES, I KNOW HOW THEY WORK: So assuming you knew they treat you the wrong way all the time, why spend money on them again, and DRM issue for Xiaomi is well known, if you are familiar with their phones, why would you be shocked to know it now?
Maybe you are just angry!! Channelize it on the Xiaomi and Flipkart social feeds and your problem has higher chance of being solved.
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I have posted it there and even a bug report please see before posting. The problem is I am getting no reply and Flipkart is delaying the return request.
shailendra1993 said:
The only phone I have ever heard that the DRM was changed is OP5 others had to stick with whatever version they got. Apart from that the certificate change requires physical connection with an authenticated computer i.e. the company's computer that means about 7-10 days for those who live outside cities like Mumbai and Delhi and since very few (or none of) Xiaomi phones in India has L1 Widevine support all the legal hassles and paperwork will be so tedious that they will either charge you for that or won't do it.
Multitouch issue is different from what you are referring, check the following bug report and video:
Bug report:http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3746297
Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5K2N6McC_s
P.S. I also have a CS degree and multiple certifications on Programming and Ethical Hacking from Lynda,Pluralsight,Udemy,etc.
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Yea I only said its possible and as no Mi devices supported it, even some huawei and zte didn't support it but only poco f1 model is being bashed for it because you all try to find cons in a product that offers at least more than its cost.
Multitouch is due to gestures implementation and it is a software issue. Sound is always fixable even if they don't(root and fix yourself). You may have gotten a bad unit but we didn't face any issues that are worth so much hate.
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to buy or not to buy poco f1 ?!

so who thought that he can buy a flagship mobile with 300 $ ?! i think no expected that !!
you watch the reviews and the mobile looks like a mobile on steroids with 4000 mah then you buy the mobile and discover thats not the whole truth !!
the mobile lacks on the software and the hardware quality control !!
you are gonna face new problems that arent even found on cheap mobiles and were taken for granted before .. who could imagine buying a mobile with touch issues nowadays ??!!
anyway thats my list of problems that i want to share with you so you dont get deceived by reviews on the net :
i have touch problems .. it is not that severe but it prevents me from writing flawlessly and i have to spent double the time in correcting keyboard spelling mistakes .. i checked the display and it is the tianma fhd nt36672a display
i have other problems as well :
1. the display produce text red ghosting while scrolling text ( it could be minimized by fiddling with color but mobile colors will be messed up and the problem is still there partly )
2. there is quite a lag when dealing with camera zoom via touch and it is considered a massive lag not seen on cheap mobiles what about 845 sd processor
3. youtube hdr colors are washed out
4. hdr hevc 10bit files used to play flawlessly on embeded media player with correct colors but after update it turned out to be washed out as youtube hdr videos
5. light bleeding from lower edge is still there causing a bright edge
6. beside netflix and amazon problems not playing hd
Still have warranty? Have it replace.. mine works fine(no screen bleed,ghosting,etc).
When this phone launched at such aggressive price, everyone knew all along that the phone will have it's cons. Still the price and configuration makes it a fair deal in my opinion. There are few issues yes but nothing you can't shrug off.
Do not buy it, at least not until the touch problem is fixed.
I thought I would jump into this thread and ask my question...
So I have a Note 9 and it's... grand... it's just boring. I miss being able to really get under the hood and mess around with the phone. With the F1 I'll be able to do just that plus have a few quid in my back pocket after selling the Note 9.
The only things stopping me is the F1 is technically just a bit worse in most aspects (the screen being my major concern) and Samsung One UI looks interesting.
What you guys think?
I don't have any touch problems on mine.. but i have an annoying lockscreen notification issue.
While the phone is locked i receive a notification and it shows in the lockscreen. Then i unlock the phone without clicking/opening the notification. After that i lock the phone. When i wake up the phone and check my lockscreen, the notifications disappear. is there any way to fix the bug? it's really annoying. Please help guys. I'm on the latest stable update for poco f1. Global stable 10.0.6.0. I also use the default theme.
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I don't have any touch problems on mine.. but i have an annoying lockscreen notification issue.
While the phone is locked i receive a notification and it shows in the lockscreen. Then i unlock the phone without clicking/opening the notification. After that i lock the phone. When i wake up the phone and check my lockscreen, the notifications disappear. is there any way to fix the bug? it's really annoying. Please help guys. I'm on the latest stable update for poco f1. Global stable 10.0.6.0. I also use the default theme.
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The fix is, stop doing that.
shailendra1993 said:
The fix is, stop doing that.
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what a stupid response.. it doesn't happen on my oneplus and samsung phone.. notifications are supposed to be showing until we click/open them.. this is clearly a bug otherwise it only happens on xiaomi devices
mnrhmn said:
what a stupid response.. it doesn't happen on my oneplus and samsung phone.. notifications are supposed to be showing until we click/open them.. this is clearly a bug otherwise it only happens on xiaomi devices
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just a joke, mate.
There are a lot of bugs on MIUI and things are gonna get worse. I sold the device when I had the chance, sorry for you.
I don't know why are you guys complaining, you knew about some issues and cosmetic disadvantages but I'm extremely satisfied with the phone. I got none of the problems listed above, for sure it's not Note 9 or OnePlus 6T but those phones are more or less about bragging rights. Just my 2 cents. Don't forget to try unlock Note Snapdragon or Huawei's bootloader
PS: Using Lineage firmware and it's more than I could hope for. :good::good::good:
My only complaint is that the stock software is absolute sh*t and you can't even unlock your own device, you have to ask permission for it, what the hell Xiaomi...
This makes me not recommend the Poco at all. If anyone is in doubt, just go for an OnePlus.
Tormeister said:
My only complaint is that the stock software is absolute sh*t and you can't even unlock your own device, you have to ask permission for it, what the hell Xiaomi...
This makes me not recommend the Poco at all. If anyone is in doubt, just go for an OnePlus.
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i own oneplus one. since day 1, the Oneplus One was awesome
but to be offended by the unlocking req by xiaomi is just childish
a lot of companies ships their phones with locked bootloader for ecurity purposes
those in china, their biggest supporters; will just use it as it is. so it is their priority
it is the same business strategy as Apple did in the USA
after asking permission to unlock, will have to wait for 72 hours on the bind device to unlock it
this is pretty safe.
MIUI is (if you are referring to it as stock software) quite heavy on the UI but it does comes with a lot of built in features that people (other people, yes) are quite fond off. so yeah, this phone is for everyone, not to deliver for just one person request
just heads on to their website, and request for features. done
well i am not nagging here i am pointing to real problems facing users .. also i am not debating is it worth the 300 $ or not because clearly it is worth it in my opinion .. but mobiles are not just hardware ??!! you cannot release a phone with too much software problems and bugs ??!!
also no consistency in fixing software problems .. you fix one problem 10 more arises ??!!
i just want to know whats is wrong with this company ??!!
cediedc said:
Still have warranty? Have it replace.. mine works fine(no screen bleed,ghosting,etc).
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well i agree as a starter but to have it replaced you must know the cause of the problem first .. am not gonna keep going and replacing the phone for like 10 times .. so xiaomi needs to address this at first .. it is not me alone who complains of software and hardware issues !!
mustafa811 said:
well i agree as a starter but to have it replaced you must know the cause of the problem first .. am not gonna keep going and replacing the phone for like 10 times .. so xiaomi needs to address this at first .. it is not me alone who complains of software and hardware issues !!
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For hardware issues(screen bleeding), it must be factory defect, so a warranty can replace.
For software issue(latency touch, notifications in notch), the are addressing the issue with their latest MIUI 10 beta 8.11.29
And I think Xiaomi are more focused on their flagship, the MI8.

7T PRO Fingerprint

Just purchased a 7t pro used only 4 months old , now i have had a 7 pro and a 7T oneplus mobile before. The fingerprint sensor on lockscreen is not recognised most of the times . Tried changing fingerprints by putting more than 3 , also have hard reset it and used unbrick tool to downgrade to 10.0.8 That did not work also. wipe cached basically tried everything also taken of screen protector .
I have given now thinking it has to be a faulty sensor.
Anyone else has had same problem and maybe know a way to sort it out
pro4ever said:
Just purchased a 7t pro used only 4 months old , now i have had a 7 pro and a 7T oneplus mobile before. The fingerprint sensor on lockscreen is not recognised most of the times . Tried changing fingerprints by putting more than 3 , also have hard reset it and used unbrick tool to downgrade to 10.0.8 That did not work also. wipe cached basically tried everything also taken of screen protector .
I have given now thinking it has to be a faulty sensor.
Anyone else has had same problem and maybe know a way to sort it out
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Do the finger print on the same finger 2or3 times that should help
No issues here, i have only one fingerprint setup.
Works perfect and haven't had a mismatch ever.
jaythenut said:
Do the finger print on the same finger 2or3 times that should help
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Tried that also its still very hit and miss . Also tried on some of my family , same there hit and miss
I had similar issues but in relation to my second thumb. (I only use thumbs to unlock). The right one worked just fine. The left one was hit or miss. Now it works much better. I can say it'stable .
The best way to configure fingerprint was in my case: 1) try to cover reader area by moving finger little bit, small steps are the best 2) try to configure fingerprint when you actually hold the phone. The angle and the position of the touching finger when you hold it and try to unlock is basically not always the same when your device rests on a flat surface. I think it's worth a shot.
Moreover reader area can be dirty or greasy/and so can be finger. Try to wipe it, and then try lock/unlock couple of times.
I got the impression FR has "learnt" both fingers and it's much much better now. Right finger precision is 9/10 and left one is like 7-8/10.
That is what i dont get its not like i have not had a oneplus device before . but this one seems to be hit and miss, where else others for me was instant
I used devices with analog fingerprint readers and they were instant indeed. In-screen scanners are getting better too. I've owned P40 Pro for a month and I must say that it was almost no difference compared to the analog one - blazing fast and high precision. The one on OP7T pro is not as good (well it's not as modern either), but when you find solution to set it up properly you'll be satisfied. Mine works really good now. Best of luck!
Sent it back now looking for another one
forever_lol said:
I had similar issues but in relation to my second thumb. (I only use thumbs to unlock). The right one worked just fine. The left one was hit or miss. Now it works much better. I can say it'stable .
The best way to configure fingerprint was in my case: 1) try to cover reader area by moving finger little bit, small steps are the best 2) try to configure fingerprint when you actually hold the phone. The angle and the position of the touching finger when you hold it and try to unlock is basically not always the same when your device rests on a flat surface. I think it's worth a shot.
Moreover reader area can be dirty or greasy/and so can be finger. Try to wipe it, and then try lock/unlock couple of times.
I got the impression FR has "learnt" both fingers and it's much much better now. Right finger precision is 9/10 and left one is like 7-8/10.
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Exactly the same, i dont know whats wrong wirh my left thumb
pro4ever said:
Just purchased a 7t pro used only 4 months old , now i have had a 7 pro and a 7T oneplus mobile before. The fingerprint sensor on lockscreen is not recognised most of the times . Tried changing fingerprints by putting more than 3 , also have hard reset it and used unbrick tool to downgrade to 10.0.8 That did not work also. wipe cached basically tried everything also taken of screen protector .
I have given now thinking it has to be a faulty sensor.
Anyone else has had same problem and maybe know a way to sort it out
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I had this issue just after 4 days of buying. 90% of times my 7T Pro would not recognize the fingerprint. I submitted my device to the service center thrice, even showed them the video recordings of sensor being faulty and they kept telling me that its a software glitch. Well I approached them and literally yelled at them when the issue occurred the 4th time. They changed some hardware component in front of me which is related to the fingerprint and the issue was resolved. Turned out I was right the whole time and they apologized to me. So trust me, it is the hardware issue and you need to get some hardware part changed in your phone. Go with the video recording if you have to and do not leave the service center until they replace the component. We also do not need to factory reset the phone for this so just say NO for factory reset. God knows why service center executives in India always suggest factory reset as the first option to every problem. Hope this helps.
Sumedh Pendse said:
God knows why service center executives in India always suggest factory reset as the first option to every problem. Hope this helps.
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Because they do not have any respect for other people's time. Just like the giant bank .. where it's a culture to ask you to come next day ( which never comes by the way ).
hyperorb said:
Because they do not have any respect for other people's time. Just like the giant bank .. where it's a culture to ask you to come next day ( which never comes by the way ).
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I think the reason is that many issues can be resolved by factory resetting. That it doesn't apply to a lot of situations is the issue with that.
But their philosophy is that if 50 percent of issues can be resolved by factory resetting, they have more resources than if they guide you through 500 steps until a factory reset becomes the only option.
That's why XDA comes in handy
That's actually kind to say but it's a notion to pickup the easiest ( even if it may not be correct ) way.
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That's actually kind to say but it's a notion to pickup the easiest ( even if it may not be correct ) way.
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But this is the same approach by every company. Even at an Apple Store you are presented the easiest option and every other step until you finally get a physical repair.
Just like you rarely get objective advise at a retail store. You are pushed towards a higher priced product so the seller profits from it.
You will never go to an Apple Store just to let the staff tell you a Nokia is cheaper and better for your needs.

Question Fingerprint Sensor not only bad, but unsafe?

I've had my share of grief with the fingerprint sensor on my Pixel 6, but it's totally usable and I was generally fine with it. Until I realised yesterday that all that oh-so complex and safe AI security procedure that allegedly makes the sensor so slow is complete bs.
I was sitting next to a friend who had never used an in-screen fingerprint sensor before and he wanted to mess around with it. After like 5 seconds he unlocked the phone. His left thumb was accepted by the phone. I was in utter shock. He was able to unlock the phone every single time without any problems whatsoever. So I thought ok, this might be rare, but there is a tiny chance that two people have very similar fingerprints. But needless to say, I was not able to unlock his iPhone with my fingerprint.
I have a few things that I dislike about the Pixel, but this safety concern feels major to me.
This has been recently publicised. There is a chance that other people may be able to unlock your 6.
freeflyer said:
This has been recently publicised. There is a chance that other people may be able to unlock your 6.
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it sure has been reported before but seeing it from others with the simplicity to bypass it is not just scary but hopefully embarrassing for Google and I hope they fix this.
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This has been recently publicised. There is a chance that other people may be able to unlock your 6.
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Wow, hadn't heard about that yet. In the past I've heard that those simple face unlocks can be tricked by as little as a picture of someone, but I always thought fingerprint sensors would be precise and safe. Well, leave it to google to mess it up I guess.
I thought google hardware would be worth something in 2021, but this phone does not feel good at all.
Scary potential security problems indeed...
Did you have Smart Lock enabled? Did it actually scan the finger (i.e. did it get really bright on that part of the screen). The screen shows the fingerprint icon even when the phone is unlocked.
I didn't realise it was unsafe as well as being completely useless.
I have a use my pin to unlock it 50% of the time.
It also uses a CCD (i.e. camera) to read the fingerprint, so in theory, a picture of your finger should trick it into unlocking.

Question Am I the only one who things the FP recognition has got worse since Dec update?

I eagerly installed the Dec 2021 update on my Pixel 6 a couple of weeks back - hoping to improve the FP pass rate.
But I am convinced its gotten worse.
It seemed better at first - but soon deteriorated...
Since the update, whilst it still unlocks on the 1st attempt occasionally, I am finding far more instances where it completely fails to recognise my FP and I am forced to put my PIN number in to unlock.
Prior to the update, it would unlock more often on the 1st attempt - otherwise it may have taken 2-3 attempts to unlock and very rarely I would have to enter the PIN.
Same here! adding more of the same finger did not help!
It was better or about the same from 13/12 until 25/12, and now I hardly can use it. have to enter password all the time.
harryw66 said:
I eagerly installed the Dec 2021 update on my Pixel 6 a couple of weeks back - hoping to improve the FP pass rate.
But I am convinced its gotten worse.
It seemed better at first - but soon deteriorated...
Since the update, whilst it still unlocks on the 1st attempt occasionally, I am finding far more instances where it completely fails to recognise my FP and I am forced to put my PIN number in to unlock.
Prior to the update, it would unlock more often on the 1st attempt - otherwise it may have taken 2-3 attempts to unlock and very rarely I would have to enter the PIN.
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I am not sure where you are located geographically, but in the northern hemisphere it is now winter. As such the overall humidity levels (particularly indoors) tends to be very low and skin is drier. What you may be seeing is your skin seasonally drying out - and the P6 is terrible at reading dry fingerprints.
chaimav said:
I am not sure where you are located geographically, but in the northern hemisphere it is now winter. As such the overall humidity levels (particularly indoors) tends to be very low and skin is drier. What you may be seeing is your skin seasonally drying out - and the P6 is terrible at reading dry fingerprints.
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can confirm, i live in Vermont and the finger print reader takes 4-6 times to register..everytime. used to do it in 1-2 before the temp dropped. its by far the most frustrating part of this phone so far.
dehelfix said:
can confirm, i live in Vermont and the finger print reader takes 4-6 times to register..everytime. used to do it in 1-2 before the temp dropped. its by far the most frustrating part of this phone so far.
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I had a feeling about this - but never had the same issue with my previous OnePlus phones with screen based FP reader.
Also, the back sensor on cheap Oppo phone or basic Nord N100 work fine - unlock first time...
Did anybody here read the other 8+ threads here in the Pixel 6 thread about the finger print reader. ?
Just curious, why no one found any help there....
Not looking for help, just sharing and trying to get an idea of other people's experiences post Dec update.
harryw66 said:
I had a feeling about this - but never had the same issue with my previous OnePlus phones with screen based FP reader.
Also, the back sensor on cheap Oppo phone or basic Nord N100 work fine - unlock first time...
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Back sensors use different technology than in screen ones.
harryw66 said:
Not looking for help, just sharing and trying to get an idea of other people's experiences post Dec update.
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I think his point was that there are a half dozen FPR threads already and another is not really needed. Why not find an older one and update that? Wouldn't that make more sense?
Worst FPR ever put on a phone
Ok this is beyond a joke now. Why in the hell would these morons remove face unlock only to add the absolute worst fingerprint reader I've ever dealt with on any phone I've ever owned. I never thought I'd consider going back to pin unlock...
forum.xda-developers.com
Just installed a glass screen protector and FPR won't recognize
I did the steps people have said to do like increase touch sensitivity and re add all the fingers I would use but it still won't work. I don't know who made this protector since I got it off a marketplace site and when I met with the person all...
forum.xda-developers.com
chaimav said:
Back sensors use different technology than in screen ones.
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As you will note, I mentioned that multiple OnePlus phones with screen based sensors worked fine for me.
I am also aware that back sensors use different tech - the point was that cheapo bottom of the range phones have no problems with fingerprints - so why does my £600 phone not work as well. It's not good enough.
bobby janow said:
I think his point was that there are a half dozen FPR threads already and another is not really needed. Why not find an older one and update that? Wouldn't that make more sense?
Worst FPR ever put on a phone
Ok this is beyond a joke now. Why in the hell would these morons remove face unlock only to add the absolute worst fingerprint reader I've ever dealt with on any phone I've ever owned. I never thought I'd consider going back to pin unlock...
forum.xda-developers.com
Just installed a glass screen protector and FPR won't recognize
I did the steps people have said to do like increase touch sensitivity and re add all the fingers I would use but it still won't work. I don't know who made this protector since I got it off a marketplace site and when I met with the person all...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Because some are pre update, and some of the post update threads are more concerned with who has received the update and who has not.
Seriously don't understand the problem, I create a thread with a very specific question and suddenly I am took to task for it...woah....
No problem in the fingerprint department for me since Dec update. It is almost perfect now. Very rare to get failed reads.
If only I had some cell signal though
harryw66 said:
As you will note, I mentioned that multiple OnePlus phones with screen based sensors worked fine for me.
I am also aware that back sensors use different tech - the point was that cheapo bottom of the range phones have no problems with fingerprints - so why does my £600 phone not work as well. It's not good enough.
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Sent it back for a refund.
I would not put up with all the troubles that you are having.
My P6 works good before the December update and after the December update.
As said multiple times in the
other threads.
vandyman said:
Did anybody here read the other 8+ threads here in the Pixel 6 thread about the finger print reader. ?
Just curious, why no one found any help there....
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Yup so much pixel spam on the same issues over and over lol
vandyman said:
Sent it back for a refund.
I would not put up with all the troubles that you are having.
My P6 works good before the December update and after the December update.
As said multiple times in the
other threads.
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I would love to - but its been over 2 months since I ordered it. I foolishly hoped that Google would fix it ASAP - and the 1st attempt has been less than satisfactory...Wish I had returned it within the 30 days...
There seems to be some hope of a workaround... Fingerprint Reader tip

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