Anyone knows what is the radiation (SAR) level (not value) of Huawei Mate 20 Pro?
And, how does it occur ... by switching on WiFi ... or as long as the phone is on ?
Thanks
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gen5000 said:
Anyone knows what is the radiation (SAR) level (not value) of Huawei Mate 20 Pro?
And, how does it occur ... by switching on WiFi ... or as long as the phone is on ?
Thanks
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My level is 0. I wrote a simple tool which switch the SAR to 0 if you don't need it.
JustChris20 said:
My level is 0. I wrote a simple tool which switch the SAR to 0 if you don't need it.
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What do you mean? Airplane mode? :silly:
JustChris20 said:
My level is 0. I wrote a simple tool which switch the SAR to 0 if you don't need it.
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which tool? and how?
please share, thanks.
Sar value of mate 20 pro
The bad thing about galaxy s10 which no reviwer talk about is the high SAR radiation of this phone, it's only 1 point less than acceptable limit i.e 1.6
Head Sar - 0.47 which is awesome
Body Sar - 1.59 but this is very high
I don't like Huawei brand but i was surprised to check huawei mate 20 pro has sar well below the limit.
Head 0.40, body 0.96. even the p30 pro has head 0.64, body 0.99
[email protected] said:
The bad thing about galaxy s10 which no reviwer talk about is the high SAR radiation of this phone, it's only 1 point less than acceptable limit i.e 1.6
Head Sar - 0.47 which is awesome
Body Sar - 1.59 but this is very high
I don't like Huawei brand but i was surprised to check huawei mate 20 pro has sar well below the limit.
Head 0.40, body 0.96. even the p30 pro has head 0.64, body 0.99
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It seems they really faithful to R&D. See the iphone really bad in SAR and they cost way more.
[email protected] said:
I don't like Huawei brand but i was surprised to check huawei mate 20 pro has sar well below the limit.
Head 0.40, body 0.96. even the p30 pro has head 0.64, body 0.99
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good to know. thanks
but no one yet has answered my other question ... do this radiation takes place while the phone is ON, or just when the WiFi is activated?
sorry, I'm just a beginner in this :fingers-crossed:
Well, i am a beginner too ? but the thing is as we use our phones these days a lot and the phones with more sar value will apparently be more harmful for our body as compared to lower ones.
I loved the new one ui in s10 series plus the good lock app but sar value of that phone can't be ignored but people do these days.
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gen5000 said:
good to know. thanks
but no one yet has answered my other question ... do this radiation takes place while the phone is ON, or just when the WiFi is activated?
sorry, I'm just a beginner in this :fingers-crossed:
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As answer to your question i am not too sure but it's looks like there is very less radiation goes on after diactivating the wifi.
w1000i said:
It seems they really faithful to R&D. See the iphone really bad in SAR and they cost way more.
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Yeah man but Samsung is becoming just greedy now like apple. They ship their phones globally other than north America with inferior Exynos chips. Exynos chips not only affects performance in comparison to Snapdragon but also camera, sound quality is inferior too,
plus this sar value i was just surprised because people say Samsung phones has least radiation level but it was just a thing of past. Body sar value of Samsung phones these days are a lot higher.
I wouldn't buy any good phone with high sar. I don't care what people say oh no this is bull****. Radiation is nothing but in my opinion it definitely affects in long run. Looking forward to newer galaxies next year and newer mate 30 series.
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Yeah man but Samsung is becoming just greedy now like apple. They ship their phones globally other than north America with inferior Exynos chips. Exynos chips not only affects performance in comparison to Snapdragon but also camera, sound quality is inferior too,
plus this sar value i was just surprised because people say Samsung phones has least radiation level but it was just a thing of past. Body sar value of Samsung phones these days are a lot higher.
I wouldn't buy any good phone with high sar. I don't care what people say oh no this is bull****. Radiation is nothing but in my opinion it definitely affects in long run. Looking forward to newer galaxies next year and newer mate 30 series.
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No body really understand the real mechanism of how phone radiation affect us until recently > check this video
https://youtu.be/2CSKY0JAVac
w1000i said:
No body really understand the real mechanism of how phone radiation affect us until recently > check this video
https://youtu.be/2CSKY0JAVac
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Thanks mate, this is very informative. Cheers
I will always buy phones with less sar value instead of good and bad software and blah blah blah.......
looks like the Mate 20 Pro is the best at the moment regarding the SAR level/value.
perhaps, it's better to switch off your WiFi and the phone itself for the night !?
gen5000 said:
looks like the Mate 20 Pro is the best at the moment regarding the SAR level/value.
perhaps, it's better to switch off your WiFi and the phone itself for the night !?
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Yeah mate, i think exactly same while my wife has already mate 20 pro and i am looking forward to mate 30 pro in October. If that phone will not come on my expectations then i will buy mate 20 pro regardless of older processor or other stuff. I don't care phones these days are already so powerful.
By the way instead of switching the phone off you can use airplane mode it works same as switching off
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Yeah mate, i think exactly same while my wife has already mate 20 pro and i am looking forward to mate 30 pro in October. If that phone will not come on my expectations then i will buy mate 20 pro regardless of older processor or other stuff. I don't care phones these days are already so powerful.
By the way instead of switching the phone off you can use airplane mode it works same as switching off
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Hopefully you'll come back to this thread in October and let us know how is the level indeed with Mate 30 Pro, alright?
gen5000 said:
Hopefully you'll come back to this thread in October and let us know how is the level indeed with Mate 30 Pro, alright?
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Sure mate, i will
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Hi XDA Friends
Below is an eye opener that I think got me convinced not to buy POCO- check out why:
I keep on hearing bad thing in my area about POCO from advanced users who judged the phone only by it's specification.
They told me that indeed the CPU/SoC (Snapdragon 845) is a great stuff but the phone as a whole makes no sense cause:
1. No NFC and no OIS (optical image stabilization)
2. Not so good cameras (Xiaomi used to delived better camers to other devices)
3. Every other part of the phone except the Snapdragon 845 which is currently the best Snapdragon on the market is making huge distance to that quiality of the CPU. Basicly they told me that Xiaomi put a super CPU/SoC and a good battery into a budget phone so it is not worth buying.
4. They said that it's way better to buy Huawei Mate 10 Lite or Honor 10 cause these phones as a whole are well balanced.
5. NO Amoled display screen, just IPS.
6. Xiaomi lured users to buy a phone with that Snapdragon 845 but as a whole it isnt a photo phone, a storage phone, a gaming phone. It's just and overpriced Redmi Note 4/5.
What do You think dear Friends?
People will find faults in everything. What were you expecting for $300? were you expecting Note 9 for $300?
you get what you pay for. for the price, this phone has good enough cameras, top of the line processor.
People will always b*tch about something. The phone is not overpriced at all.
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3. Every other part of the phone except the Snapdragon 845 which is currently the best Snapdragon on the market is making huge distance to that quiality of the CPU. Basicly they told me that Xiaomi put a super CPU/SoC and a good battery into a budget phone so it is not worth buying.
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tell them , this is the reason why this phone is worth buying. Those Huawei phones dont allow bootloader unlock, so f*ck Huawei. Huawei came to xda, and when the became popular they just locked them bootloaders and left.
also, change the title on your thread. stop with the click bait, drama creating titles.
munchy_cool said:
People will find faults in everything. What were you expecting for $300? were you expecting Note 9 for $300?
you get what you pay for. for the price, this phone has good enough cameras, top of the line processor.
People will always b*tch about something. The phone is not overpriced at all.
tell them , this is the reason why this phone is worth buying. Those Huawei phones dont allow bootloader unlock, so f*ck Huawei. Huawei came to xda, and when the became popular they just locked them bootloaders and left.
also, change the title on your thread. stop with the click bait, drama creating titles.
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Thanks dude, I will tell them.
PLease dont make me a drama king cause I really hate to give such titles but here at XDA we all are like a huge family and I believe we should take care of each other hence this tittle.
Look difrently if someone wants this phone real bad that topic wont stop him.
Please be more understading!
androidbadboy said:
Thanks dude, I will tell them.
PLease dont make me a drama king cause I really hate to give such titles but here at XDA we all are like a huge family and I believe we should take care of each other hence this tittle.
Look difrently if someone wants this phone real bad that topic wont stop him.
Please be more understading!
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Then your title should be
is the poco f1 overpriced?
this title which you have
"Read this thread before you buy POCO"
is absolute BS of a title.
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Then your title should be
is the poco f1 overpriced?
this title which you have
"Read this thread before you buy POCO"
is absolute BS of a title.
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I disagree dude. These advanced users never mentioned price. It's not about it, its about the balance of all components.
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I disagree dude. These advanced users never mentioned price. It's not about it, its about the balance of all components.
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what your advanced users are looking for is a $750 phone for $300 which will never happen.
There is a reason why the Pixel, S9, Note 9 cost what they cost.
dont change the title. this thread will die like many such on xda.
munchy_cool said:
what your advanced users are looking for is a $750 phone for $300 which will never happen.
There is a reason why the Pixel, S9, Note 9 cost what they cost.
dont change the title. this thread will die like many such on xda.
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I agree about they money but they claim that this phone isnt worth even this $300. Either You buy something cheaper or something much more expensive. This phone is like a planet without a sun. No purpose at all.
This guys just a troll don't listen to him he probably bought honour play Or mia2 and is regretting it and crying like a *****...
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This guys just a troll don't listen to him he probably bought honour play Or mia2 and is regretting it and crying like a *****...
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Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Dude. Let's not start a fight. It will get us nowhere. If You would like to know I preordered POCO a couple of days ago and I always have the chance of canceling.
Dude seriously??? Did you just came after watching some BS drop tests and all on youtube, that made you these thoughts?? You don't need to be smart to see if you drop your phone what will happen?? And geez Snapdragon 845 is the main purpose all are buying this device, Name any device in the same price 300$ or lower which is better than this or at least competes with this?? Seriously i saw only one guy hating it thinking like it could be xiaomi's strategy to make people in trap, I met many people who already bought this and are all happy to thw fullest and 0% people complaining which I personally know.
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One more thing it would have be great if you first bought the device yourself and experience and then share it rather than competing with the guys who already own this beast and are happy.
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And none of your points make any sense about soc and battery are senseless and for NFC personally in my country it's waste and no one gives shi*s it's useless.
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Dude seriously??? Did you just came after watching some BS drop tests and all on youtube, that made you these thoughts?? You don't need to be smart to see if you drop your phone what will happen?? And geez Snapdragon 845 is the main purpose all are buying this device, Name any device in the same price 300$ or lower which is better than this or at least competes with this?? Seriously i saw only one guy hating it thinking like it could be xiaomi's strategy to make people in trap, I met many people who already bought this and are all happy to thw fullest and 0% people complaining which I personally know.
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One more thing it would have be great if you first bought the device yourself and experience and then share it rather than competing with the guys who already own this beast and are happy.
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I'm just saying that my these advanced users do make valid points.
Why do You think I ordered this phone in the fist place? Casue of Snapdragon 845 and I am not campaning against POCO. I;m just leaving this message for pleeople that have a big imagination.
Personaly, I'd like to have it but I care about XDA users and I respect others opinion. So chill dude, please.
I don't have the phone but will be ordering it as soon as possible.
The lack of NFC doesn't bother me since I have never used it in my entire life. Not having OIS is a bit disappointing but whatever, I never take pictures in low light so that doesn't matter too much.
AFAIK the cameras are still pretty decent, or at least that's what the reviews seem to suggest. I watched some camera comparisons with the OnePlus 6 and they both seemed equally matched, more or less.
I would never buy a Huawei phone for the same reason someone mentioned above, betraying the entire dev community like a bunch of assholes. No bootloader unlock means no sale!
I am glad there are still high-specced phones out there with IPS panels. My eyes are extremely sensitive to the Pulse-Width Modulation (PWM) used in OLED panels to regulate brightness. My Axon 7 caused me months of headaches and eyestrain until I realised that's what was causing the problem. Never again will I buy another AMOLED phone unless they figure out how to get rid of PWM.
P650SE said:
I don't have the phone but will be ordering it as soon as possible.
The lack of NFC doesn't bother me since I have never used it in my entire life. Not having OIS is a bit disappointing but whatever, I never take pictures in low light so that doesn't matter too much.
AFAIK the cameras are still pretty decent, or at least that's what the reviews seem to suggest. I watched some camera comparisons with the OnePlus 6 and they both seemed equally matched, more or less.
I would never buy a Huawei phone for the same reason someone mentioned above, betraying the entire dev community like a bunch of assholes. No bootloader unlock means no sale!
I am glad there are still high-specced phones out there with IPS panels. My eyes are extremely sensitive to the Pulse-Width Modulation (PWM) used in OLED panels to regulate brightness. My Axon 7 caused me months of headaches and eyestrain until I realised that's what was causing the problem. Never again will I buy another AMOLED phone unless they figure out how to get rid of PWM.
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so POCO is geat for You, Im happy to hear that. BTW You're the first person saying that dosnt like amoled
I kind of disagree with the post, several reviewers have rated the phone well on most counts, I am not a tech reviwer but an enthusiast who spends money to experience the new and the nice in tech.
Any phone has shortcomings, and so has this but imagine what you are paying for those, the curved screens on galaxy devices is effectively one of the things what one pays the premium for yet the real world functionality remains arguable. Having said that let me state whats amazing about this phone in my hands on experience so far.
1. Photo quality and Camera speed, the camera launches quick, snaps quick, the ai detection is fast and accurate and pictures are good with or without ai and hdr
2. Phone handling, single handed use, comfort, the phone gets this right. Face unlock, finger prints unlock are both very fast, the raise to wake feature is super useful. It does not feel a cheap phone by any means.
3. Battery life is too early to judge but my first charge has gone 30 hours with 3 hours screen time in a very bad reception area. (still at 50%)
4. The screen quality, contrast and outdoor usage all are at par with the good screens around. No complaints there yet.
5. The software on board is fast and functional, gestures work well plenty of settings to customize, the stock poco launcher is certainly better than what you see on Redmi phones
The minor annoyances come from the following
1. The curve at the bottom of the bottom could have been smaller, its not stopping anything functionally but just feels a bit more than needed.
2. Notification icons don't show up on the notification bar
3. Icons don't seem to have an option to resize. Nothing that another launcher won't solve.
Some may think its not a gaming phone, or a camera phone, why don't we think its a functional phone which ticks all the boxes without trying to be the master of one, the phone does everything well. If you must compare the phone, do so against the flagships and see how many contests it fights well, don't compare it to the midrange phones because it just bests them in all areas.
In an analogy form this phone is a new heavyweight boxer that can stand its ground well in the ring.
If someone has only 300$ to spend, they must buy this, if one has 250$ to spend, this is worth the 50$ extra if one can manage, if someone has 400$ or more they would not regret spending 300 here, though they are free to spend the extra bit on whatever feature specific phone they would like.
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Man, people say some funny stuffs that we can't know if it's serious or not. NFC isn't a deal breaker for many many people. The camera uses the same sensor as Mi 8, Mi Mix 2S, Vivo NEX S, Asus Zenfone 5z that are so much expensive. The lack of OIS is not the end of the world and if a person want it so just spend more money for that.
A lot of flagships has 3000, 3000, 3400mAh and Pocophone has 4000mAh and it's not good enough.
AMOLED? Really? Even Mi Mix 2S don't have it, LG G7 doesn't have it, Xperia XZ2 don't have it and some others. They are all much more expensive and don't have it. The important thing is that Pocophone has a good quality IPS display.
The phone has good screen, good battery life, good camera, it's well made, stellar UFS storage, stellar memory speed and stellar SoC and people complain. If someone wants stellar everything, so go buy a phone that is double or triple the price. The phone gives us more than we pay for sure. There are a lot of phones in the market that is medium to good in everything and costs around $300.
As person who have poco phone and Note 8 , i have to humbly disagree OP's points
1. NFC is good to have but not a necessity but personally i have far better option (Called note 8) and also we so called advances users would have over specs 1000 times before buying any device be it poco f1
2. It has good camera(s) with 1.9 and 2.0 aperture lenses with sony IMX sensors and for price point they do great in good lighting conditions and OIS is again good option to have but not a must.
3. Not sure how to answer that question as you have done it yourself as XIaomi has put SD 845 SOC in a budget phone
4. DOn't have those phone to comment on them
5. Amoled is awesome as i have one of the best amoled screen on phone but this IPS LCD panel is no slouch adequate brightness and color accuracy
just my .02 cents
NFC - you will not find NFC in any device in the same price range, not even Honor Play and what you will do with NFC? I have had atleast 3 phones with NFC but they were useless because except samsung pay my country has no support for NFC payment.
2. AMOLED? Are you serious?? Does honor 10 has amoled? I have used LCD all my life and had no problem, only viewing angles are bad, why would anyone see their phone from sides btw? I have 2 ways of getting an AMOLED:
i. If I buy a mid range phone that has AMOLED and useless processors like SD450 or SD430 Cost - 300USD-400USD
ii. If I buy a high end phone that has both AMOLED and great processor - Cost - More than 700USD
Xiaomi's LCD screen is on par with even expensive phone's display.
3. Honor and Huawei are worst companies in terms of open source and custom ROM development. I had an honor 8 pro, these idiots said they will support development but after few months they flew away, now there is no method to even root the phone and last I had heard, Huawei/Honor will not allow bootloader unlocking.
4. Everyone knows that the camera is not good, it is called cost cutting, everyone here is buying Poco just for the SoC. I was going to buy Honor Play, but however bad poco's camera is, it is still better than honor play's camera and android Pie is certain but Honor nowadays is not even providing patches on time and with each new update a new bug arises.
5. And you are right, Poco F1 is nothing but Redmi Note 5 with a better SoC. And don't even mention Widevine here, I have Moto Z play, Honor 8 Pro, Mi A1, Samsung J7 Max and none of them support Widevine L1 and most of them cost more than Poco.
Your power users are noobs and not experienced people and you sir, either are a very rich guy, else you are extremely stupid.
your points are all invalid because the phone costs 300 bucks lol
Dude, you high or something? Change the damn title to "is Poco F1 worth the price?". You are not giving some top secret news about POCO. You are just sharing your stupid opinion which anyone can. "Read before you buy?". I have it and it's awesome. You just don't understand tech stuff a lot. 100000 people already has it. 5000 has posted 5* review on flipkart.
Just takes a few minutes to read the customer review before buying anything. Do that.
Is US$300 reasonable to buy a Xiaomi Poco F1????
@everyone
Good Day!
I come across all earlier contributions with good and bad comments on this particular Poco F1 ...... .! Bear in mind from the business point of view ask ourselves why US$300 on a snap dragon 845 ... surely might be wrong on this huh! Well, Xiaomi is adopting very aggressive marketing penetration to wipe all the heavy weights like Apple, Samsung, Huawei and smaller ones as well on this! Poco F1 hits them well just like that.
Everyone is entitled to his/her own experiences based on what one believing in the pros and con ..... bearing in mind how long will this lasts! Is just another phone US $300 justify your meets/want for 1-2 years before the next wave going to hit in the market maybe the Oppo or Vivo phones are getting ready to hit back at Xiaomi with more prudent and well built features in probably less than US $250 for soc 855 or 865! Not forgetting that idiot Huawei good for nothing "No bootloader unlock" phrase and many still reluctant players NOT willing to open up bootloader unlock ..... . will count them out.
Conclusion is based on every individual who thinks value for money, ease of operation, good OS (nothing is perfect at least 90% satisfied), NFC not necessary ... many others can do away with it, and end up simply with a price of US $ 300 is certainly the justification that I want with following rationales:
1. Can you still find another alternative or replacement unit with US $300 for a soc 845 ;
2. I can still do my bootloader unlocking but with minimum frustration (1440 hours or 61 days to unlock >> latest new!!!) with Xiaomi;
3. I still can have my custom roms later part ([RECOVERY] TWRP-3.2.3-x [beryllium], Tool/Utility for the Xiaomi Poco F1) or maybe OrangeFox .... . more custom roms will be available by then;
4. If I don't like custom rom I still can revert back to stock roms which is another alternative! Bearing in mind Xiaomi is making a great impact now and maybe the next 10-20 years future to stay more competitive; and
5. Target on this model may last me for a year or 2 ..... by then a much better model with higher specs would surface to take over Poco F1.
Till then Good Luck guys! - -
I'm torn between the Mate 20 Pro and the Mate 20X.
Both have same front camera which appears to be top notch (no pun intended!) and superior performance.
I'm fascinated by the AR capabilities of the Pro. Especially that one can actually make a 3D representation of an object that can be animated and incorporated into a photo or video.
I also really like the large screen on the 20X and that it's performance is optomized for entertainment related use with very good sound reproduction.
Who knows. I might end up getting both or neither if their capabilities were oversold.
So was wondering why would folk prefer one over the other.
Thanks!
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I'm torn between the Mate 20 Pro and the Mate 20X.
Both have same front camera which appears to be top notch (no pun intended!) and superior performance.
I'm fascinated by the AR capabilities of the Pro. Especially that one can actually make a 3D representation of an object that can be animated and incorporated into a photo or video.
I also really like the large screen on the 20X and that it's performance is optomized for entertainment related use with very good sound reproduction.
Who knows. I might end up getting both or neither if their capabilities were oversold.
So was wondering why would folk prefer one over the other.
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If you're really that undecided, I'd suggest to first buy the 20x. I'm guessing that giagantic display will appeal to very few people. It seems nice in theory, but I think it will pretty difficult to manage in practice.
Once you'll realise that the 20x is not for you, you'll return it and get the 20 pro instead and be happy with it.
I wouldn't put as deciding factors the 3d function. It's something you'll use a few times at the beginning and never touch again.
If you really do play that many games on your phone, enough to utilize the cooling of the 20x, I'd suggest to get a Switch and save some cash. But that's just a personal preferance, since I don't get mobile gaming.
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If you're really that undecided, I'd suggest to first buy the 20x. I'm guessing that giagantic display will appeal to very few people. It seems nice in theory, but I think it will pretty difficult to manage in practice.
Once you'll realise that the 20x is not for you, you'll return it and get the 20 pro instead and be happy with it.
I wouldn't put as deciding factors the 3d function. It's something you'll use a few times at the beginning and never touch again.
If you really do play that many games on your phone, enough to utilize the cooling of the 20x, I'd suggest to get a Switch and save some cash. But that's just a personal preferance, since I don't get mobile gaming.
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Thanks for your suggestion. I am worried about the state of development of the AR features. Could see it being rather buggy. Apparently, the software is not on current release but will appear in update. But I would definately use it as I have an interest in this.
Not sure yet but I would probably be happy with the screen size on Mate 20 X. I bought the First Galaxy Note, and Mi Mix when they came out and many folks initially said they were too big. But I was very hapoy with larger screen. So without trying it I don't know. The other thing is that I don't really want the Mate 20 X for gaming as I do very little of that. I'm more interested in it's sound systen as I Iike to play and record music.
Anyways, right now I'm leaning towards the 20X. But maybe I'm missing something about the Mate 20 Pro that would sway me more towards that.
The only thing the Huawei Mate 20 series has going for it is the X version with the larger screen and battery. If you are only interested in the Pro, you are better off with the Oneplus One 6T which is a far more polished and developed product. You can listen to the hype all you want but in reality there is not that much difference between the two.
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Thanks for your suggestion. I am worried about the state of development of the AR features. Could see it being rather buggy. Apparently, the software is not on current release but will appear in update. But I would definately use it as I have an interest in this.
Not sure yet but I would probably be happy with the screen size on Mate 20 X. I bought the First Galaxy Note, and Mi Mix when they came out and many folks initially said they were too big. But I was very hapoy with larger screen. So without trying it I don't know. The other thing is that I don't really want the Mate 20 X for gaming as I do very little of that. I'm more interested in it's sound systen as I Iike to play and record music.
Anyways, right now I'm leaning towards the 20X. But maybe I'm missing something about the Mate 20 Pro that would sway me more towards that.
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Other than the in display finger print and facial unlock, there's none.
Almost forgot. The 20x has weaker cameras. It has the mate 20's cameras.
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Other than the in display finger print and facial unlock, there's none.
Almost forgot. The 20x has weaker cameras. It has the mate 20's cameras.
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That's wierd. I thought the 20X has the same camera as the Pro. For example they both have 40 mega pixel rear camera. Maybe there are other differences?
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Other than the in display finger print and facial unlock, there's none.
Almost forgot. The 20x has weaker cameras. It has the mate 20's cameras.
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The only thing the Huawei Mate 20 series has going for it is the X version with the larger screen and battery. If you are only interested in the Pro, you are better off with the Oneplus One 6T which is a far more polished and developed product. You can listen to the hype all you want but in reality there is not that much difference between the two.
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Never even considered the Oneplus One 6T. I'll have to check it out. Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 seems nice too. I thinks Xiaomi does a nice job with its user interface.
EDIT: OMG! Oneplus 6T live event is today! That's good timing!
The X and P r o have same cameras.
Old thread but in case anyone else with same question I'd say it's all about size. You want the bigger screen get the X otherwise the pro
I know the Mate 20 pro re-appeared on Google’s Android Q Beta page, but I'm really not sure about what to do with the phone. It's great but the uncertainty is a bit worrying.
Is there anyone out there that has sold or is considering selling the mate20pro? If yes, which phones did you go for/are you considering?
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I know the Mate 20 pro re-appeared on Google’s Android Q Beta page, but I'm really not sure about what to do with the phone. It's great but the uncertainty is a bit worrying.
Is there anyone out there that has sold or is considering selling the mate20pro? If yes, which phones did you go for/are you considering?
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If you are going to change I'd wait for more 5G phones to come out
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If you are going to change I'd wait for more 5G phones to come out
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Fair point, but it's just that if I think like that I'll have to stick to the mate20pro for another half year or so, most other "flagship" android phones have already been released for this year.. I reckon that the S10 or S10+ are the only ones that come close to the mate20pro in terms of camera versatility, battery, size, and I'd also get the headphone jack, which is nice.
Still not decided whether to sell it or not. I could sell it for max 400 EUR now...
In case I sell Mate then probably will chose between OP7 Pro and S10+. Each has pros and cons, but certainly I will miss Mate's camera. And charging speed (ok, OP is close here). And 3D face unlock..
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I'm waiting for next years batch of 5G handsets
tobias14 said:
Still not decided whether to sell it or not. I could sell it for max 400 EUR now...
In case I sell Mate then probably will chose between OP7 Pro and S10+. Each has pros and cons, but certainly I will miss Mate's camera. And charging speed (ok, OP is close here). And 3D face unlock..
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Right, same here - the only "real" alternative is the P30 pro :silly:
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I'm waiting for next years batch of 5G handsets
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So you'll stick to the mate20 pro for another 10 months or so? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, we might be lucky and they figure it all out in the next couple of weeks/months but it could take much longer and then the re-sell value of the mate20pro will be very low (apart from the risk of not having an updated Android version).
I have the same problem. Only phone what can change is P30 Pro but good one model, without reed, orange color problem in camera.
S10 Plus is finr but still no even close to Mate 20 Pro.
Im still on my Mate 20 Pro and I cant change it, because P30 Pro is still expensive for me. But the price is falling day by day for my Mate 20 Pro.
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Right, same here - the only "real" alternative is the P30 pro :silly:
So you'll stick to the mate20 pro for another 10 months or so? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, we might be lucky and they figure it all out in the next couple of weeks/months but it could take much longer and then the re-sell value of the mate20pro will be very low (apart from the risk of not having an updated Android version).
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Only the Pixel will have Android Q this year anyway and it doesn't contain anything EMUI hasn't already got so why rush to change
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Only the Pixel will have Android Q this year anyway and it doesn't contain anything EMUI hasn't already got so why rush to change
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For me it's related to the security updates, maybe we'll stop getting them within a couple of months, we just can't be sure at this point. If that should happen (hopefully it won't!) the phone wouldn't sell for anything really, so it's sort of sell while it's still sellable.
charliebigpot said:
For me it's related to the security updates, maybe we'll stop getting them within a couple of months, we just can't be sure at this point. If that should happen (hopefully it won't!) the phone wouldn't sell for anything really, so it's sort of sell while it's still sellable.
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Yep, thinking exactly the same. Sadly for me there is no proper alternative right now.
OP7 camera is dissapointing (according to feedbacks on OP forums), it has ghost touch issues (probably SW related, so fixable)..
S10+ on the other hand has desperately slow charging, camera is good but still a no match for Mate's in poor light conditions
Well, probably will sell my Mate soon and anyway take one of the above devices. As you say, it may happen that in few months this phone won't be sellable
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All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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[email protected] said:
All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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My point exactly it doesn't bother me
[email protected] said:
All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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My point exactly it doesn't bother me
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It's great if that works for you guys.
But it's a relatively new device, I'm not really ok with not getting security updates. There's a reason those are rolled out, and it's not just to protect users from shady download sites.
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It's great if that works for you guys.
But it's a relatively new device, I'm not really ok with not getting security updates. There's a reason those are rolled out, and it's not just to protect users from shady download sites.
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Be honest now, when have you ever checked security update schedules for any of your devices since mobile phones became common place? Before purchasing.
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people are worrying about Huawei a little too much, nothing is going to come of it, business will carry on as usual imho
cisco kidd said:
people are worrying about Huawei a little too much, nothing is going to come of it, business will carry on as usual imho
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Well, it seems they have just stopped or at least slowed down production dramatically
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...fter-blacklisting-reports-claim/#7db58d556eed
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Be honest now, when have you ever checked security update schedules for any of your devices since mobile phones became common place? Before purchasing.
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You are right, it's not the first thing I look at. The truth is that I started worrying more and more about security as I got older, probably because I have way more sensitive information now than I had in my teens (banking apps and stuff, emails, whatsapp which yes, I could all remove, but that defeats the purpose of a smartphone) - it's the principle that matters.
Also, another thing is that it could well be that in some months we all have to install Ark OS, which allegedly will work with android apps but that's not what I signed up for when I spent almost $1k on this phone.
It's like buying an electric car and after one year they tell you that it's a hybrid now.
Got an iPhone XS Max 256 GB and i love it ! I still have my mate 20 pro. Maybe I will sell it but I got used to iOS so quick and it is really good. I got a used one from swappa less than 800 and it works great. I’ve been an Android fan for some years now but I think I might like the iPhone better also I live in USA and iMessage is a must here. Don’t be afraid of using other OS. Camera is great as well. No night mode or ultra wide but the standard pictures IMO are more flattering and taking pictures it’s instant. I took a bunch of pictures and colored side by side and surprisingly I like the iPhones better. Just wanted to tell you my experience
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Well, it seems they have just stopped or at least slowed down production dramatically
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...fter-blacklisting-reports-claim/#7db58d556eed
You are right, it's not the first thing I look at. The truth is that I started worrying more and more about security as I got older, probably because I have way more sensitive information now than I had in my teens (banking apps and stuff, emails, whatsapp which yes, I could all remove, but that defeats the purpose of a smartphone) - it's the principle that matters.
Also, another thing is that it could well be that in some months we all have to install Ark OS, which allegedly will work with android apps but that's not what I signed up for when I spent almost $1k on this phone.
It's like buying an electric car and after one year they tell you that it's a hybrid now.
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All current devices will continue to receive security updates and access to google play, Future devices may not but as it appears Google and Huawei are working together. Of course everything published is negative is that not the way it always is? Doom and gloom first then reality. I just bought a P30 Pro on device upgrade yesterday for cheap 350 in canada and my mthly plan stayed pretty much the same as it ws prior, in fact I got more data , I am in Canada. I am not too concerned, in fact if I opt for the Mate 20 I can save another 100 but damn the 10x zoom is so appealing, yet to open box
I think this is not a really big issue, even if you can't get auto update on your Huawei.
Google can't stop you install the software
such a nice phone what a pity to throw away
I'll probably get Pixel 4 or Pixel 4XL somewhere in November - December. Don't want one more Chinese phone anymore.
Hello
Am thinking of getting the mate 10 pro (north america ver). It looks as price and specs wise is pretty good.
Would u owners of the phone recommend of buying it?
Thx in advance
Nope, I'd buy s8 instead or something else like onpleus 7t with even better cpu if available for same price.
They both should offer better performance, mate 10 pro throttles like crazy - to the point where it constantly is above throttling point of 37° C
Just a normal use keeps your device at 40/41° C, few more degrees, at 45° C iirc and your performance dips even further.
They cheaped out on cooling solutions and it hurts really bad, even in every day tasks. You throttle before you even step into cpu/gpu heavy applications, once inside you get horrendous performance out of a cpu that should be able to push 90% of the content at stable 60 fps.
I'm thinking of modifying mine but the design choices make it really hard to do so ?
So yeah, on paper it looks nice but expect real world performance to be much much worse than what you see in comparisons between snapdragon 835 ( I'm not sure if that's the one s8 has) and kirin 970. It's not worth the money when what you get performs like lower class cpu of not even worse - 99% of the time due to poor thermal relief methods.
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Nope, I'd buy s8 instead or something else like onpleus 7t with even better cpu if available for same price.
They both should offer better performance, mate 10 pro throttles like crazy - to the point where it constantly is above throttling point of 37° C
Just a normal use keeps your device at 40/41° C, few more degrees, at 45° C iirc and your performance dips even further.
They cheaped out on cooling solutions and it hurts really bad, even in every day tasks. You throttle before you even step into cpu/gpu heavy applications, once inside you get horrendous performance out of a cpu that should be able to push 90% of the content at stable 60 fps.
I'm thinking of modifying mine but the design choices make it really hard to do so ?
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I bought the Mate 10 Pro (BLA-L29) new in February 2020 and have not looked back since as it suits my usage perfectly. In the end it is your choice, as our usage patterns are definitely different. I mainly use it for the excellent camera, have it on a HDMI dock during the day as a light usage laptop via desktop experience. Some Asphalt 9 (which does heat up the phone on best quality) and some 1080p movies at night. Being 2017 model, it might be deemed "old"; it does do what it is supposed to excellently though.
Awaiting the Emui 10 update that should drop this month in South Africa. Good luck with your decision.
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I bought the Mate 10 Pro (BLA-L29) new in February 2020 and have not looked back since as it suits my usage perfectly. In the end it is your choice, as our usage patterns are definitely different. I mainly use it for the excellent camera, have it on a HDMI dock during the day as a light usage laptop via desktop experience. Some Asphalt 9 (which does heat up the phone on best quality) and some 1080p movies at night. Being 2017 model, it might be deemed "old"; it does do what it is supposed to excellently though.
Awaiting the Emui 10 update that should drop this month in South Africa. Good luck with your decision.
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That, but keep in mind that custom ROMs is a no go with this phone or any other Huawei models. Or remove or bloatware from Huawei.
If the above are important to you maybe OnePlus?
In the end is up to you. If you've found a perfect offer and you do not care about unlocked bootloaders, custom ROMs, rooting etc, then go for it. Great camera for the price.
base how you use this phone. you just call and massage, game or take some photos at the same time. keep use it.
jdstrydom said:
I bought the Mate 10 Pro (BLA-L29) new in February 2020 and have not looked back since as it suits my usage perfectly. In the end it is your choice, as our usage patterns are definitely different. I mainly use it for the excellent camera, have it on a HDMI dock during the day as a light usage laptop via desktop experience. Some Asphalt 9 (which does heat up the phone on best quality) and some 1080p movies at night. Being 2017 model, it might be deemed "old"; it does do what it is supposed to excellently though.
Awaiting the Emui 10 update that should drop this month in South Africa. Good luck with your decision.
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Sure enough, each to themselves ?
But the fact remains that even for your light use a different phone would bring much smoother experience.
We are not really spoiled for choice in South Africa in regards to phones. Mobile companies here are mainly pushing newest iphones, huaweis and Samsungs at premium contract prices locked down for 36 months (for some). And at the other side of the price spectrum some really nasty cheap ones. We don't get many Xiaomi notes here (my previous one was Mido RN4), so it really was a no-brainer to get the Mate 10 Pro at 2 to 3 times less cost. Sucks that the bootloader is locked though, would have liked to run AICP or AEX
as a backup phone for sure i will choose mate 10(not pro version) , because it suite all i need ,i got a brand new old stock mate 10 for cheap price $139 at my country and its still on ancient firmware where i can unlock the bootloader using dc unlock .
Thank u all for ur helpful insights. Current am using mate 9, but I think I ma go for mate 20 although much more expensive then mate 10
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For practically 500 USD (converted, not even released for the US) it was a total over hype. For that rate you better go find yourself an 865 device.
... Or even a Dimensity device at this point honestly, looks like it'll be a while before you ever get flagship specs again at a budget level with Qualcomm.
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For practically 500 USD (converted, not even released for the US) it was a total over hype. For that rate you better go find yourself an 865 device.
... Or even a Dimensity device at this point honestly, looks like it'll be a while before you ever get flagship specs again at a budget level with Qualcomm.
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Opinions are like as###les. Everyone has one.
Like it, buy it. Don't like it don't buy it.
Indeed, so much money wasted on marketing that could have been used to reduce the price of the device. Be better off with a Redmi K20 Pro or a Realme X3, slap a custom ROM.
I ordered mine for 369€ from amazon(Germany) (they are doing a 30€ off for prime customers).
Im pretty satisfied with the price tbh, I got my oneplus 3 4 years ago for 400€ and I think its time to upgrade it.
cheptii said:
I ordered mine for 369€ from amazon(Germany) (they are doing a 30€ off for prime customers).
Im pretty satisfied with the price tbh, I got my oneplus 3 4 years ago for 400€ and I think its time to upgrade it.
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I still use my OnePlus X (Onyx), which I bought ~5 years ago for 299€, but I'll gonna wait for the 6GB+64GB version to show up in Europe, because it should cost the same 299€.
369€ for 8GB+128GB is great deal, but I don't play games, so I don't need extra RAM or space..
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For practically 500 USD (converted, not even released for the US) it was a total over hype. For that rate you better go find yourself an 865 device.
... Or even a Dimensity device at this point honestly, looks like it'll be a while before you ever get flagship specs again at a budget level with Qualcomm.
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
Current exchange rate suggests that Nord would cost 460 USD and that's when you convert it from 399 EUR, not 500 like you suggest.
Every Oneplus device of the last few years was cheaper in the US than in Europe, even when you adjusted it for VAT.
499$ devices were 499€.
So this would be a 399$ phone.
What do you expect from a budget phone in that price range?
I do agree tho The realme X50 pro is 489$ 8gb 128 gigs and it comes with SD865
Well for 419€(399€ for phone, new oneplus buds and a gift mistery box, 20€for pre order) i thunk is very good. I loke it i buy it, who don't, well don't buy.
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I do agree tho The realme X50 pro is 489$ 8gb 128 gigs and it comes with SD865
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Lol. Use same UI and same Android forever
why should I pay 300$ more for a 865 (OP8) if the 765 offers more than enough power for me?
so I can text faster and read news on the toilet faster?
Get control over your 'I always need to have the best on the market' attitude if you can't afford it lmao.
I'm glad the Nord exists because honestly I wouldn't buy anything else than a pixel or OP (or maybe some android one devices) because of the software no matter what cpu they offer.
I mean you can get a Poco F2 Pro with 865 for around the same price as the nord sometimes, but MIUI (or OneUI/ColorOS/EMUI) ruins the hardware and my OG pixel feels faster than that.
cheptii said:
I ordered mine for 369€ from amazon(Germany) (they are doing a 30€ off for prime customers).
Im pretty satisfied with the price tbh, I got my oneplus 3 4 years ago for 400€ and I think its time to upgrade it.
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Ja! Same here. I think it's definitely worth it.:good:
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Causical said:
For practically 500 USD (converted, not even released for the US) it was a total over hype. For that rate you better go find yourself an 865 device.
... Or even a Dimensity device at this point honestly, looks like it'll be a while before you ever get flagship specs again at a budget level with Qualcomm.
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this guy has some serious maths problem or he hates Oneplus for no good reason, because 24,999₹ = ~335$ as of now and top model is 29,999₹=~402$.
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For practically 500 USD (converted, not even released for the US) it was a total over hype. For that rate you better go find yourself an 865 device.
... Or even a Dimensity device at this point honestly, looks like it'll be a while before you ever get flagship specs again at a budget level with Qualcomm.
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show me a cheaper phone with the same or better specs with OIS and a most likely an active developer community.
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show me a cheaper phone with the same or better specs with OIS and a most likely an active developer community.
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Don't be silly...
... Well for some reason my pics aren't uploading but out of the 845 and 765 the 845 is still slightly better. Show me that there aren't affordable 845 phones right now.
https://versus.com/en/qualcomm-snapdragon-765g-vs-qualcomm-snapdragon-845
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Don't be silly...
... Well for some reason my pics aren't uploading but out of the 845 and 765 the 845 is still slightly better. Show me that there aren't affordable 845 phones right now.
https://versus.com/en/qualcomm-snapdragon-765g-vs-qualcomm-snapdragon-845
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So does any of these "affordable" SD845 phones have a 4000+mha battery? a 90hz Amoled display? 5G support? a 2 year official software support?
Don´t get me wrong the SD845 is an awesome processor but it only beats the SD765 in gpu performance while losing in power efficiency and connectivity.
Saiger said:
So does any of these "affordable" SD845 phones have a 4000+mha battery? a 90hz Amoled display? 5G support? a 2 year official software support?
Don´t get me wrong the SD845 is an awesome processor but it only beats the SD765 in gpu performance while losing in power efficiency and connectivity.
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C'mon though let's be real, all bs aside. You could get a used SD855 device off Swappa in just fine condition for at or better than that price. Why are you fooling yourself? I get it new, flashy hype. Go for it, it's just my personal opinion that your (closer to)$500(than $400) could be funneled in a "better" direction for what you're wanting.
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C'mon though let's be real, all bs aside. You could get a used SD855 device off Swappa in just fine condition for at or better than that price. Why are you fooling yourself? I get it new, flashy hype. Go for it, it's just my personal opinion that your (closer to)$500(than $400) could be funneled in a "better" direction for what you're wanting.
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You were talking about 845 phones and now its suddenly 855 ones...
Yea a USED higher end phone from last year is still better than a new midrange one from 2020. That´s the point. You are comparing 2 different price brackets. But it´s pretty damn hard here in EU to fins a better phone for ~370€ even used.
Causical said:
Don't be silly...
... Well for some reason my pics aren't uploading but out of the 845 and 765 the 845 is still slightly better. Show me that there aren't affordable 845 phones right now.
https://versus.com/en/qualcomm-snapdragon-765g-vs-qualcomm-snapdragon-845
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First comparison just compares the GHz, that doesn't say anything.
It doesn't matter 845 or 765. They have both almost the same power and until you don't play Ultra HD 4k blablabla games you won't notice any difference! I have a 7T and a Redmi note 9 pro and I can tell you even the 720G in the note 9 does a very good job here! For surfing or YouTube and music even a Snapdragon 720g is enough. Battery is very great, much better than my OP 7T. Only camera sucks. So let's wait for the Nord.?