Problems currently plaguing the POCO F1 - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

I have made this thread since a lot of problems which are currently plaguing the POCO F1 are not being discussed properly on XDA. I intend that people will relate to the issues i am posting here which are still unfixed.
1. SLOW CHARGING
The charging speed on the poco has reduced due to thermal throttling. As soon as the battery temperature hits 37, the speed drastically reduces. I can confirm this and i have extensively tested it. I put my poco in front of an air conditioner which reduced battery temperature and the charging bumped upto 2700-2800mah.
Now thermal throttling is good(Especially since its summer season in India) but they should increase a thresholds a bit. My brother used a Asus Zenfone5z and my dad uses a Galaxy S10. On both these sets the charging throttling is not so harsh.
The narrow tolerance range of temperature while charging has lead to extremely bad charging times. This needs to be fixed.
2. Audio Issues ( Especially PUBG)
Try wearing earphones while playing PUBG in a poco and in a different phone. You will instantly notice how muffled/low the sound is in poco. You can barely make out the direction from which the footsteps are coming or the gunshots are being fired. I never realized this untill i played PUBG while wearing earphones in other cellphones. The sound in poco earphones is extremely low. I am not talking about songs in which case the sound loudness seems to be fine. This is mostly the case while playing games.
3. Speakerphone Loudness
I swear the speakerphone loudness had decreased over time. The poco was plenty loud at the start. Now the main speaker loudness just sucks. Whether its watching youtube, netflix or anything else. They have definitely decreased audio volume. Speaker generates considerable amount of heat. Try watching a movie which is already downloaded on your cell and after sometime you will notice that the hottest area to touch of the whole phone is around the main speaker(and not the cpu or gpu).
This makes me wonder whether the main speaker quality was bad right from the start and Xiaomi actually lowered volume to help avoid any issues. In any case, watching youtube is not as fun as before due to low sounding speaker now.
4.Touch Screen Issues
Well what to say about this. I mean there are tons of thread about this already. Xiaomi just release new touch drivers in Miui beta 9.5.6. This means they are still trying to fix touch issues even after almost 9 months of launch. Whether it is multi touch, ghost touch or missed touches. Poco has it all.
The reason is simple. Poor quality touch sensor. Its a hardware issue. Poco had to cut corners somewhere and the touchscreen was the component which took a big hit. The display quality of poco is general is also not good. But i am not complaining due to what all the poco gives at the price point it sit in.
But the touch sensor should not have been compromised with. This is something unacceptable. The general usage experience of the poco due to touch issues is really bad. It frustrates me daily. I have tried tons of custom firmwares too. But then the issue has to be fixed(if at all it can be ever fixed) through vendor firmware. Custom roms or kernels will never fix it. The most major issue of Poco f1-----------still unfixed----its terrible touchscreen.
5. Auto Rotation
I am not sure if many people have noticed this but the auto rotation while using youtube is extremely bad. This is something i won't be able to explain properly but can say this that i am sure many of you find the auto rotation in youtube not to be a seamless experience. This is not the case in other phones.
The accelerometer in general works fine. So i am mostly sure that this must be a software optimization issue.
6. No 4g+ Vodafone
I don't know whats the deal here but poco will never catch 4g+ in Vodafone. At the same spot other phones from nokia, samsung etc does but poco does not. My poco catches 4g+ in Jio but not Vodafone. No matter the spot, the finding remains the same. How can two different manufacturers produce two different results at the same spot even when both the sets in question have lte advanced capability.
I can only assume that there must be some internal issue between xiaomi and Vodafone due to which poco does not support 4g+ in Vodafone. If any1 reading this post has latched onto Vodafone 4g+ successfuly while using a poco please let us know.
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Using POCO F1 64GB/6GB Indian variant running Miui Global Beta 9.5.17. These issues have persisted through both stable and beta builds and i have tried all.

I have the Global version of the F1 running Stock MIUI 10.3.4.0 locked bootloader and have not encountered any of the issues you are having.

I had touch problems playing PUBG on poco where the screen just froze and i couldn't do anything, locking and unlocking the phone worked sometimes but it still is a problem
Also had thermal throttling playing pubg for more than 20 minutes, fps dropped down and phone got hot
I don't play any games on my phone anymore so these aren't problems for me anymore but there is one big problem and that being the "call echo" , almost everyone who i had a call with complains about hearing their own voice and it's very annoying, so I'd say this is a very important issue and needs a fix immediately

You must be on stable build then. The echo is fixed in beta builds. Can anyone confirm this??? I am not entirely sure but no one is complaining about echo now to me. Was complaining earlier though.

I can confirm for the speaker loudness issue with listening to songs through headphones or earphones the sound is good.
But the speaker is not that loud and i constantly need to keep changing volumes when watching YouTube video through speaker.
In pubg i need to keep the sound at full through earphones then only its usable.Before this Poco i was using Zenfone Max Pro M1 and its sound quality was lot better as compared to poco at least with speakers and in pubg,i never used to keep my sounds more than 60-65 %.

Nice topic!
Anyways I'm completely agree with your point 1,2 & 3.
For Point No. 4 I didn't face any touch issue yet. I bought this device 21 sept. 2018. But I heard that many people have touch related issue. So maybe I'm lucky one.
For Point No. 5, I didn't face any auto rotation issue till date.
For Point NO. 6, I don't have vodafone But I saw a screenshot of poco f1 somewhere, It shown 4g+ at status bar with vodafone network.
I'm on miui global beta 9.5.9

Stransky said:
I have the Global version of the F1 running Stock MIUI 10.3.4.0 locked bootloader and have not encountered any of the issues you are having.
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You are quite lucky then. Can you share Vodafone 4g+ screenshot?

Ezio553 said:
I can confirm for the speaker loudness issue with listening to songs through headphones or earphones the sound is good.
But the speaker is not that loud and i constantly need to keep changing volumes when watching YouTube video through speaker.
In pubg i need to keep the sound at full through earphones then only its usable.Before this Poco i was using Zenfone Max Pro M1 and its sound quality was lot better as compared to poco at least with speakers and in pubg,i never used to keep my sounds more than 60-65 %.
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They have definitely reduced speaker volume. Though its not that bad but its lower than before and as you said, while watching youtube etc, slight background nooses ruins the whole experience. It was louder before for sure.
However, the audio in pubg while using earphones...the difference feom other phones is MASSIVE. People need to check other phones to realise what i am talking about.

yogeshsharmagamerz said:
Nice topic!
Anyways I'm completely agree with your point 1,2 & 3.
For Point No. 4 I didn't face any touch issue yet. I bought this device 21 sept. 2018. But I heard that many people have touch related issue. So maybe I'm lucky one.
For Point No. 5, I didn't face any auto rotation issue till date.
For Point NO. 6, I don't have vodafone But I saw a screenshot of poco f1 somewhere, It shown 4g+ at status bar with vodafone network.
I'm on miui global beta 9.5.9
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Auto rotation is a minor issue in only youtube... Not that major i agree... Lucky you got a touch issue free device.
Touch issues are there thats why they recently released new touch drivers in 9.5.6.
Can you share that screenshot bro??

The only major issue I have for now is audio loudness, I used to listen songs on YouTube at around 80% volume but after recent updates even full volume feels insufficient. Also I feel BT volume has gone down though I am not sure about it.
Touch issues are there for me too but I dont play any game so its a minor thing for me

raman.hwr said:
The only major issue I have for now is audio loudness, I used to listen songs on YouTube at around 80% volume but after recent updates even full volume feels insufficient. Also I feel BT volume has gone down though I am not sure about it.
Touch issues are there for me too but I dont play any game so its a minor thing for me
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I think they reduced volume so as to generate less heat. Speaker generates good amount of heat. Maybe high volume would have lead to high heat and damage to speaker..

Ghost touch on notch
Ghost touch issue on pocophone especially on the notch area is making me sick. Is it a hardware or a software issue? Ive tried all the suggested troubleshooting methods like disabling the 3fingers slide screenshot but the problem is still evident.

Screen, audio issues
I have read a similar problem of mine on some forums. When using the phone while holding it, the screen works okay (except for some touch delay sometimes on the lower part of the screen). But what agitates me the most is that whenever I lay my phone flat on a soft surface (Bed is the worst), the phone does not respond at all to my touches (except when I heavily, and i mean heavily tap it)
Some say this is a hardware issue, but I was like what? If the screen works fine when held, how come it's a hardware issue? I think the problem is that Xiaomi tied the screen response/touch with the gyro/accelerometer in the software (MIUI 10.2.3.0).
As for the audio, why bother creating a stereo setup if the other one is just a small earpiece? Also the audio channels are also separate, meaning, whenever you play a stereo audio file (with separate instruments per channel), you can only hear one side clearly. Fortunately, there is a fix, its by turning on the mono audio on accessibility settings, but UNFORTUNATELY, this also affects the output on headphones
I hope Xiaomi fixes this soon!

I have not read about this issue with anyone but since the last update I have this strange problem, when ever i go from First space to Second space, the phone freezes and reboots after a few seconds, sometimes it works but sometimes it freezes completely. Secondly FB and other FB related logins dont work.

GamerArc said:
I have made this thread since a lot of problems which are currently plaguing the POCO F1 are not being discussed properly on XDA. I intend that people will relate to the issues i am posting here which are still unfixed.
1. SLOW CHARGING
The charging speed on the poco has reduced due to thermal throttling. As soon as the battery temperature hits 37, the speed drastically reduces. I can confirm this and i have extensively tested it. I put my poco in front of an air conditioner which reduced battery temperature and the charging bumped upto 2700-2800mah.
Now thermal throttling is good(Especially since its summer season in India) but they should increase a thresholds a bit. My brother used a Asus Zenfone5z and my dad uses a Galaxy S10. On both these sets the charging throttling is not so harsh.
The narrow tolerance range of temperature while charging has lead to extremely bad charging times. This needs to be fixed.
2. Audio Issues ( Especially PUBG)
Try wearing earphones while playing PUBG in a poco and in a different phone. You will instantly notice how muffled/low the sound is in poco. You can barely make out the direction from which the footsteps are coming or the gunshots are being fired. I never realized this untill i played PUBG while wearing earphones in other cellphones. The sound in poco earphones is extremely low. I am not talking about songs in which case the sound loudness seems to be fine. This is mostly the case while playing games.
3. Speakerphone Loudness
I swear the speakerphone loudness had decreased over time. The poco was plenty loud at the start. Now the main speaker loudness just sucks. Whether its watching youtube, netflix or anything else. They have definitely decreased audio volume. Speaker generates considerable amount of heat. Try watching a movie which is already downloaded on your cell and after sometime you will notice that the hottest area to touch of the whole phone is around the main speaker(and not the cpu or gpu).
This makes me wonder whether the main speaker quality was bad right from the start and Xiaomi actually lowered volume to help avoid any issues. In any case, watching youtube is not as fun as before due to low sounding speaker now.
4.Touch Screen Issues
Well what to say about this. I mean there are tons of thread about this already. Xiaomi just release new touch drivers in Miui beta 9.5.6. This means they are still trying to fix touch issues even after almost 9 months of launch. Whether it is multi touch, ghost touch or missed touches. Poco has it all.
The reason is simple. Poor quality touch sensor. Its a hardware issue. Poco had to cut corners somewhere and the touchscreen was the component which took a big hit. The display quality of poco is general is also not good. But i am not complaining due to what all the poco gives at the price point it sit in.
But the touch sensor should not have been compromised with. This is something unacceptable. The general usage experience of the poco due to touch issues is really bad. It frustrates me daily. I have tried tons of custom firmwares too. But then the issue has to be fixed(if at all it can be ever fixed) through vendor firmware. Custom roms or kernels will never fix it. The most major issue of Poco f1-----------still unfixed----its terrible touchscreen.
5. Auto Rotation
I am not sure if many people have noticed this but the auto rotation while using youtube is extremely bad. This is something i won't be able to explain properly but can say this that i am sure many of you find the auto rotation in youtube not to be a seamless experience. This is not the case in other phones.
The accelerometer in general works fine. So i am mostly sure that this must be a software optimization issue.
6. No 4g+ Vodafone
I don't know whats the deal here but poco will never catch 4g+ in Vodafone. At the same spot other phones from nokia, samsung etc does but poco does not. My poco catches 4g+ in Jio but not Vodafone. No matter the spot, the finding remains the same. How can two different manufacturers produce two different results at the same spot even when both the sets in question have lte advanced capability.
I can only assume that there must be some internal issue between xiaomi and Vodafone due to which poco does not support 4g+ in Vodafone. If any1 reading this post has latched onto Vodafone 4g+ successfuly while using a poco please let us know.
P.S.
Using POCO F1 64GB/6GB Indian variant running Miui Global Beta 9.5.17. These issues have persisted through both stable and beta builds and i have tried all.
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Just change ur handset.
or visit nearby mi service center.

Charging issue is happening since june updatea, so I suggeat all of you to go back to may vendor so you can charge your phone as usual

Bought this phone 20 days ago
Bought this phone 20 days ago due to the processor. But now it seems like a mistake.?
Facing ghost touch but it's manageable (I know it's not but the processor...)
I use earphones mostly so no problem with phone speaker. While playing pubg I have to keep sound level at 90% to hear clearly.
Charging... It's charging Faster than my previous phone. I had Lyf Earth 1. Yea I know...
Miui 10.3.6 stable
6/64gb
GamerArc said:
I have made this thread since a lot of problems which are currently plaguing the POCO F1 are not being discussed properly on XDA. I intend that people will relate to the issues i am posting here which are still unfixed.
1. SLOW CHARGING
The charging speed on the poco has reduced due to thermal throttling. As soon as the battery temperature hits 37, the speed drastically reduces. I can confirm this and i have extensively tested it. I put my poco in front of an air conditioner which reduced battery temperature and the charging bumped upto 2700-2800mah.
Now thermal throttling is good(Especially since its summer season in India) but they should increase a thresholds a bit. My brother used a Asus Zenfone5z and my dad uses a Galaxy S10. On both these sets the charging throttling is not so harsh.
The narrow tolerance range of temperature while charging has lead to extremely bad charging times. This needs to be fixed.
2. Audio Issues ( Especially PUBG)
Try wearing earphones while playing PUBG in a poco and in a different phone. You will instantly notice how muffled/low the sound is in poco. You can barely make out the direction from which the footsteps are coming or the gunshots are being fired. I never realized this untill i played PUBG while wearing earphones in other cellphones. The sound in poco earphones is extremely low. I am not talking about songs in which case the sound loudness seems to be fine. This is mostly the case while playing games.
3. Speakerphone Loudness
I swear the speakerphone loudness had decreased over time. The poco was plenty loud at the start. Now the main speaker loudness just sucks. Whether its watching youtube, netflix or anything else. They have definitely decreased audio volume. Speaker generates considerable amount of heat. Try watching a movie which is already downloaded on your cell and after sometime you will notice that the hottest area to touch of the whole phone is around the main speaker(and not the cpu or gpu).
This makes me wonder whether the main speaker quality was bad right from the start and Xiaomi actually lowered volume to help avoid any issues. In any case, watching youtube is not as fun as before due to low sounding speaker now.
4.Touch Screen Issues
Well what to say about this. I mean there are tons of thread about this already. Xiaomi just release new touch drivers in Miui beta 9.5.6. This means they are still trying to fix touch issues even after almost 9 months of launch. Whether it is multi touch, ghost touch or missed touches. Poco has it all.
The reason is simple. Poor quality touch sensor. Its a hardware issue. Poco had to cut corners somewhere and the touchscreen was the component which took a big hit. The display quality of poco is general is also not good. But i am not complaining due to what all the poco gives at the price point it sit in.
But the touch sensor should not have been compromised with. This is something unacceptable. The general usage experience of the poco due to touch issues is really bad. It frustrates me daily. I have tried tons of custom firmwares too. But then the issue has to be fixed(if at all it can be ever fixed) through vendor firmware. Custom roms or kernels will never fix it. The most major issue of Poco f1-----------still unfixed----its terrible touchscreen.
5. Auto Rotation
I am not sure if many people have noticed this but the auto rotation while using youtube is extremely bad. This is something i won't be able to explain properly but can say this that i am sure many of you find the auto rotation in youtube not to be a seamless experience. This is not the case in other phones.
The accelerometer in general works fine. So i am mostly sure that this must be a software optimization issue.
6. No 4g+ Vodafone
I don't know whats the deal here but poco will never catch 4g+ in Vodafone. At the same spot other phones from nokia, samsung etc does but poco does not. My poco catches 4g+ in Jio but not Vodafone. No matter the spot, the finding remains the same. How can two different manufacturers produce two different results at the same spot even when both the sets in question have lte advanced capability.
I can only assume that there must be some internal issue between xiaomi and Vodafone due to which poco does not support 4g+ in Vodafone. If any1 reading this post has latched onto Vodafone 4g+ successfuly while using a poco please let us know.
P.S.
Using POCO F1 64GB/6GB Indian variant running Miui Global Beta 9.5.17. These issues have persisted through both stable and beta builds and i have tried all.
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Bought this phone around 10 months ago, never had any issues except number 6.
I NEVER had 4G+ on my Pocophone in my region (thailand, Truemove carrier), i think this is due to the Pocophone only supporting CA(4G+) on bands 3+40 or 40+40/3+3 (i think), my carrier uses B1+B3+B8 or any of that in 2CA so yeah, pocophone's CA(4G+) capablity is extremely limited due to it only being able to do CA in very limited bands (it will do CA fine with indian carriers i heard)
About number 1, I charge my phone overnight anyways so I am not in a hurry and when i wake up it will always be at 100% anyways. I also sometimes charge it outside of my home with my QC3.0 powerbank, and yes since I am in thailand the heat does affect me and it slows charging down to around 12-16 watts instead of full 18 watts, but really charging is a non issue
No touch issues on my unit aswell, had a great experience from the start of using this phone in terms of touch, guess i got lucky or the earlier pocophone models (9/2018,10/2018) had higher quality digitizers, I also heard problems about screen bleeding which I think you didn't mention specifcally , my screen has a VERY minor bleed around the bottom left corner of the screen
One display issue which I think not alot of users face but I do, is image retention. I experienced this myself when looking at something static for a long time with this brightness (70%-85%), it's noticeable in the "dark grey" kind of screens which is the default dark mode setting in Pixel Experience (the rom that I've been using for 7 months now, don't really like how menus are placed in MIUI, or does that just have to do with me using pixel experience for so long), the image retention is not like some extreme burn-in you see on amoled displays, just a very hard to see but "it's there" kind of thing. The image retention will usually solve itself if you leave your phone's screen off for a decent amount of time (image retention =/= burn-in) and this can happen with any brightness setting i found out, i once left the phone's screen on for like 24+ hours mirroring the screen to my pc with the minimum brightness (i see the screen on my pc anyways so no point in leaving the screen on anything but minimum brightness) and yes it did have image retention once i was done using it after 24+ hours, i turned the brightness up and instantly saw retention in the screen of static menu elements.
Of course that's a bit extreme of a use case, not many people are gonna leave a phone screen on for 24+ hours, but yes it can happen lol
Headphone/audio issues: never experienced bad audio in my pocophone F1 when listening to music (I use PowerAmp and it's high-res setting of 24bit/96KHz) it sounds amazing from this phone, but when playing games the audio is definitely sub-par compared to phones I had before.
Another problem I have is random freezes with MIUI, I solved this by using pixel experience and i really love this rom so this is a non-issue for me since I don't see myself returning to MIUI until MIUI 11 comes out or something like that.

1. SLOW CHARGING
true and frustrating
2. Audio Issues
didn't face it
3. Speakerphone Loudness
it's just a software thing, using any aosp based rom or custom kernel solves it
4.Touch Screen Issues
didn't face it
5. Auto Rotation
what?

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So many issues with this "Flagship" phone...

Picked up my AT&T G5 on April 23rd. Thought it was pretty darn good at the time, but after using it for a week there are just to many issues with it. Most of them seem to be common here on the forum, so I thought I would run down my list.
1. Dropping Network. I have found that about 2-3 times a day while the signal bars are showing full signal that there is n 4g or 1x icon. during this time I have no connectivity. cannot call, Email, text, surf the web, nothing. this tends to last for anywhere from a few seconds to last night it was over 40 mins. If I reboot the phone that seems to reestablish the network connection, but this is a huge issue to me. I need a reliable phone for work.
2. Dropping GPS. I am a guy that is used for issues at multiple work sites and facilities. As such I tend to use my GPS quite often. last week luckily I was at one static facility so I didnt need to rely on my GPS, but I ran it anyway as I had seen a number of people reporting issues with the G5 retaining GPS lock. about every 15-30 mins my phone would drop the GPS signal. it would take anywhere from a few seconds to 10 mins to reestablish. This is on a known route that i have never had any sort of GPS issues with any phones before.
3. Camera. I had the S4, S5, and then the S6 Edge. they all had pretty good cameras. Low light worked really well. the camera on the G5 does not compare. I thought I could live with it, but coupled with the other issues... Yea, its a problem for me. i like the wide angle camera, but the normal camera leaves a lot to be desired especially in low light situations.
4. Bluetooth. In my car i stream Pandora quite a bit. at least once a day i have to turn bluetooth back on as it will shut itself off in the middle of my commute. Again,not a deal breaker in and of itself, but with everything else...
5. Alarm Clock reliability. This is a strange one... the stock alarm clock tends to not go off for me. the app I normally download and use just plain didnt work with the G5. in one week the alarm has completely failed to go off 4 different days. I have checked all the settings, everything is right, nothing is killing the alarm clock app during the night, but in the morning it just wont go off. I have set the alarm and watched it waiting for it to go off for testing, and half the time when it does go off it is not audible. just the screen lights up. then if I leave everything set as it was and bump the time a couple mins so that it will go off again, the next time I will get audio. sometimes. its inconsistent, but the majority of the time it does not work properly.
6. Screen Quality. Ok, this one is really an issue with me. im jaded. I admit this. Coming from the AmoLED's on the Galaxy series looking at the G5's screen colors seem washed out. Not as sharp and bright. I know the Sammy phones over-saturate the colors, but I guess Im just used to them and because of that this screen Im just not happy with.
7. Always on display. Or what ever it is... the clock that is displayed on the screen when you turn off the screen and lock the phone. On the S6 edge I had only the clock numerals and such was lit. the rest of the screen remained off and black. With the G5 screen even though the screen looks like its off and black in a dark room you can tell the entire screen is on. it lights up my room at night. not a lot, but just enough to bug me. Again, not a deal breaker in and of itself, but with everything else....
8. Sound. streaming music via BT is fine, well as long as the BT remains on... using a pair of wired headphones the audio quality just isnt there. Playing the same track on my G5, my old GS6 Edge and my wifes S7 there is a definite sound quality loss with the G5. I have a set of Sennheiser studio headphones and I could tell ever time my wife plugged them into the G5. I was looking forward to the HIFI module, but well with all the rest here...
So this morning I went back to my AT&T store to return this phone since I was still within my 15 day period. Got there 20 mins before it opened and waited with 4 other people. when i got inside and all checked in to the que for help, the lady kinda chuckled. apparently the other 4 people were there to do the same thing, exchange the G5 for a different device.
I really wanted to like this phone. I really tried. One or two of the issues i could have lived with, but when they are all present... this does NOT seem like a flagship phone to me. seems more like a swing and a miss.
I don't have a G5, so my answer is only based on reviews and other users tests:
1) Here in italy all the reviewers claimed the G5 to have the beste signal in both mobile and wifi network compared to S7 Edge, P9 and HTC 10, so maybe your model was defective?
2) Nothing to say as it seems that other users suffered of this problem, i found nothing about GPS problems in reviews though.
3) G5 has the best camera in normal condition, in low light there is no competition because S7 obviously do a lot better.
4) Same as point 2, no problem in reviews, but some users here in xda have the same problem.
5) It's a third party app? Really, does it work on other devices with Marshmallow or with the Snapdragon 820? The stock app work? Other third party apps work?
6) Yep, that's it. But keep in mind that Amoled is anyway the best display.
7) AOD is totally wrong on both G5 and S7, in the first because in order to drain less battery the display backlight is very low, and in the second, and in my opinion is the more stupid, because it's useless, you can (for the moment) see only stock app notification, clock and date (maybe a very few other things)
8) The bluetooth issue is the same that you reported in point 4, and the story is again the same, some users reported it, but reviewers and other users are surprised for the good sound.
Just try to answer to some problems, i've no intention to argument
I have the poor signal and drops. I was blaming it on my carrier. I may take this back and get a different brand all together.
Hey Kill, In regards to #5, the stock app wasnt working reliably so I tried a app store app. that one wasnt reliable either. I always try to use the stock built in first.
In regards to #8 I was talking about the wired headphones via the headphone jack. BT audio sounded good, but the quality loss was with the wired headphones.
schollianmj said:
Hey Kill, In regards to #5, the stock app wasnt working reliably so I tried a app store app. that one wasnt reliable either. I always try to use the stock built in first.
In regards to #8 I was talking about the wired headphones via the headphone jack. BT audio sounded good, but the quality loss was with the wired headphones.
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For the #5 strange, never heard something like this.
For the #8 i saw that, it's the same as other problems, some users have them, other not, and the reviewers never said nothing. Maybe there was a problem with the the jack itself, in my opinion the real issue with this phone is that you have high chances to get a faulty one, moreover in us where it was released first. In my country I'm still waiting for users feedback
I love my lg g5. I get bored of phones and switch up so regularly but still absolutely loving it. I mainly got it for the camera, and I'm more impressed than I was with my beloved lg g4. In manual mode I still believe it's better than the s7 (I tested then both over the course of a week).
That data drop is interesting though. Happens to me too, but can't figure out if it might be something to do with whether you turn wi-fi on or off. Seems linked, as happens to me at work.
I have the ATT one too. Got it the day before launch... Screen i think comes second to the S7 TBh, but is still pretty damn good... Camera I find is sick, better than the competition in my opinion. I haven't had any issues with data or signal loss whatsoever, however I can confirm when using GPS the signal will either drop, or it won't lock on at all until I just about hold it to the top of my front windshield!!! The sound I find is fine, but im no audio engineer either. I use jaybird X2 BT ear buds and I think they sound fantastic with no Bluetooth signal loss ever... Alarm issue is a new one to me.. No problems here and I constantly have to change the time due to our ridiculous work schedule.
One can definitely understand why you are bringing yours back. Hope you enjoy your next device.
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schollianmj said:
Picked up my AT&T G5 on April 23rd. Thought it was pretty darn good at the time, but after using it for a week there are just to many issues with it. Most of them seem to be common here on the forum, so I thought I would run down my list.
1. Dropping Network. I have found that about 2-3 times a day while the signal bars are showing full signal that there is n 4g or 1x icon. during this time I have no connectivity. cannot call, Email, text, surf the web, nothing. this tends to last for anywhere from a few seconds to last night it was over 40 mins. If I reboot the phone that seems to reestablish the network connection, but this is a huge issue to me. I need a reliable phone for work.
2. Dropping GPS. I am a guy that is used for issues at multiple work sites and facilities. As such I tend to use my GPS quite often. last week luckily I was at one static facility so I didnt need to rely on my GPS, but I ran it anyway as I had seen a number of people reporting issues with the G5 retaining GPS lock. about every 15-30 mins my phone would drop the GPS signal. it would take anywhere from a few seconds to 10 mins to reestablish. This is on a known route that i have never had any sort of GPS issues with any phones before.
3. Camera. I had the S4, S5, and then the S6 Edge. they all had pretty good cameras. Low light worked really well. the camera on the G5 does not compare. I thought I could live with it, but coupled with the other issues... Yea, its a problem for me. i like the wide angle camera, but the normal camera leaves a lot to be desired especially in low light situations.
4. Bluetooth. In my car i stream Pandora quite a bit. at least once a day i have to turn bluetooth back on as it will shut itself off in the middle of my commute. Again,not a deal breaker in and of itself, but with everything else...
5. Alarm Clock reliability. This is a strange one... the stock alarm clock tends to not go off for me. the app I normally download and use just plain didnt work with the G5. in one week the alarm has completely failed to go off 4 different days. I have checked all the settings, everything is right, nothing is killing the alarm clock app during the night, but in the morning it just wont go off. I have set the alarm and watched it waiting for it to go off for testing, and half the time when it does go off it is not audible. just the screen lights up. then if I leave everything set as it was and bump the time a couple mins so that it will go off again, the next time I will get audio. sometimes. its inconsistent, but the majority of the time it does not work properly.
6. Screen Quality. Ok, this one is really an issue with me. im jaded. I admit this. Coming from the AmoLED's on the Galaxy series looking at the G5's screen colors seem washed out. Not as sharp and bright. I know the Sammy phones over-saturate the colors, but I guess Im just used to them and because of that this screen Im just not happy with.
7. Always on display. Or what ever it is... the clock that is displayed on the screen when you turn off the screen and lock the phone. On the S6 edge I had only the clock numerals and such was lit. the rest of the screen remained off and black. With the G5 screen even though the screen looks like its off and black in a dark room you can tell the entire screen is on. it lights up my room at night. not a lot, but just enough to bug me. Again, not a deal breaker in and of itself, but with everything else....
8. Sound. streaming music via BT is fine, well as long as the BT remains on... using a pair of wired headphones the audio quality just isnt there. Playing the same track on my G5, my old GS6 Edge and my wifes S7 there is a definite sound quality loss with the G5. I have a set of Sennheiser studio headphones and I could tell ever time my wife plugged them into the G5. I was looking forward to the HIFI module, but well with all the rest here...
So this morning I went back to my AT&T store to return this phone since I was still within my 15 day period. Got there 20 mins before it opened and waited with 4 other people. when i got inside and all checked in to the que for help, the lady kinda chuckled. apparently the other 4 people were there to do the same thing, exchange the G5 for a different device.
I really wanted to like this phone. I really tried. One or two of the issues i could have lived with, but when they are all present... this does NOT seem like a flagship phone to me. seems more like a swing and a miss.
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Humm, I haven't had any such issues....
Hope you enjoy your new device.
As a comparison, my data, gps, Bluetooth and such all work fine. When using an auxiliary cable in my car I had that hissing sound, but using the alternate 3.5mm port on the back of my radio fixed the issue.
The only part of the phone that could use some fine tuning is the strength of the paint or whatever it's calledy. The paint got a little rough or irritated in a couple spots from removing a tpu case less than ten times. I also noticed a little chip in the coating near the charging port. I'm very careful with my phones. My G2 has less blemishes at this point and I've had that thing forever. I'll be curious to see how it will hold up over the next year, at the least.
Who knows, my paint problem could be a minority issue just as others with GPS and data issues. In my case, instead of getting a new device that could possibly have more than superficial defects. I'll keep the one with the funky paint.
As we all know, there's lots to love about this phone. I'm sure as hell keeping mine.
All the problems I hear about seem to be non existant on the unbranded variants or variants for carriers outside the US...
Also AT&T H820 seems to have the most issues.
Had this phone for a week now with no issues.I've only read one bad report of a variant outside the US...
Not saying LG is not at fault but this what happens when carriers mess with the firmware...doesn't explain quality issues but most of it seems to be with AT&T
My main issue is the ambient light sensor causing the image to flicker in low light when using the FFC, and the obvious auto brightness issue. This needs to get fixed ASAP by LG.
Everything else is working just fine for me. Battery life is meh, but as others have mentioned the stand by time is amazing feels similar to the performance of an iPhone in terms of battery life. Bluetooth works fine as well.
I do not have any of these issues. So have to say I disagree with this post completely.
1 Carrier issues, ie network is your mobile provider. Mine drops never. 4G 2 to 3 bars most of the time.
2. GPS on mine is perfect, many journeys well over half an hour, no issues at all.
3. The camera beats out any other phone I've used low light and craps over the Galaxy S's Barring the 7. (You need to use manual or a steady hand but still stands)
4. BT issues is the devices you are connecting to.
5. Alarm clock always goes off for me.. maybe you're turning it off in your sleep, or some settings you've altered or app you've downloaded
6. S6 and 7 screens are better, no doubt, except in sunlight where the S6 is not really useable but G5 is absolutely perfect in sun. As bright as if you're indoors.
7. Always on display drains too much battery so I turn it off... I like my 6.5 hours screen on time at 75% brightness.
8. Sound quality trounces my old S6 and Xperia Z5, can't say much else about this. It's louder and clearer and bassier.
Have to say i'm happy with this phone and thanks to the wide angle lens.. I might just end up keeping it.
UK H850 Stock Rom had for 4 weeks now.
1. Dropping Network. -- This has been better than my old Z2. In fact some "dead spots" that my friends phone suffer from I find my phone still has 2 bars
2. Dropping GPS. -- Used the LG fitness tracker the other day and it was really accurate to the paths I walked when check on google maps. CHecking some photos on google and they are accurate to 2 metres.
3. Camera. -- Low light has not been an issue for me, but if it were I'd switch to the manual mode. Done some amazing sunsets thanks to the manual mode
4. Bluetooth. -- Only used with headphones but never had an issue. Streamed for couple of hours to a portable speaker at a bbq this weekend and was faultless.
5. Alarm Clock reliability.-- Not used that feature. Have used the timer function for cooking and that works a treat, very loud as well
6. Screen Quality.-- I thought my Xperia Z2 screen was good, the G5 is blinding when you set brightness up. It's amazing for outdoor use in sun light. I have seen the S6 screen, colours look freakish and don't match when on a TV or monitor
7. Always on display. -- I have stopped turning my phone on thanks to this and the battery usage is insane, it barely uses it. Also I have noticed it changes brightness based on on light sensor. Plus if I want it off I cover the proximity sensor or flip it.
8. using a pair of wired headphones the audio quality just isnt there. -- Yet this has a 24bit DAC, better than the S7 (dependent on processor) and most other flagships. The basic headphones with it are crap but they are cheap. But my sony nc ones sound amazing with it.
I read a lot of bad things about quality whee this launched but then I reminded myself, people only tend to have time to complain about things and no praise. I know I'm guilty of that. In fact I'll layout my one complaint about the G5, the UI. It's not as "clever" or usable as what I'm used to with the Xperia. But I can change that with 3rd party software and root.
Maybe you have a bad one, or may as someone else pointed out the issue is the carriers forcing changes on base model. All those variants could be affecting the quality control.
I have the H860N dual sim version, not having any problems as mentioned above apart from the alarm part.
I set my alarm on at 3pm and 4pm with snooze in case I over slept, but some how the alarm goes off at around 9:20pm and also the set alarm times, not sure if it's related to other features.
I'm still testing it now.
I just wanted to chime in here.
I have the LG G5 on Verizon and my signal is horrid. I lose LTE coverage all the time. This is NOT the network as I also carry a LG G4 with me that is also on Verizon and it always has a LTE connection and a strong signal at the time that the G5 drops. I am getting Verizon to replace the device, hopefully this resolves the issue.
They had me use the Repair tool on my PC along with multiple factory resets. They event went as far as to blame the Google Application updates that were from the Play store, aka looking for a cop out.
The only issue that I've had with my G5 has been with the AT&T LTE signal. Sometimes I find the phone struggling to stay on LTE for a minute or two. This is not a big problem for me but it is sometimes annoying when I try to watch a video or something. I live in the Washington DC area and LTE service is pretty strong over most of the area, so it's not a carrier issue. Again it's not a big deal and most of the time I don't notice it.
Regarding the camera, it's one of the best smartphone cameras I've seen yet, I've taken some pretty amazing shots and all of them have been in full auto mode.
If your device is having that many issues, you should probably return it.
You are right
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All the problems I hear about seem to be non existant on the unbranded variants or variants for carriers outside the US...
Also AT&T H820 seems to have the most issues.
Had this phone for a week now with no issues.I've only read one bad report of a variant outside the US...
Not saying LG is not at fault but this what happens when carriers mess with the firmware...doesn't explain quality issues but most of it seems to be with AT&T
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I wonder why AT&T and other U.S. carriers like to put their own software on top of LG factory image. Unbranded LG G5 works great!
Maybe you are right, Carriers 's bloatware may cause those issues.
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Go hidden menu, Run a ALL-AUTO-TEST, you can test the LTE NETWORK issues, If in test mode, the LTE never drops. It is not the hardware issue. According to my experience, Most of issues are caused by Carrier firmware.
I have this same issue with the alarm clock. sometimes it works my early morning alarm rarely goes off.
I have tried adding the alarm clock app to the battery optimization exception list and that hasn't helped.
Third party apps on the optimization list or off still unreliable.
anyone find a solution for this? i may try a factory reset this weekend.
other apps like KIK seem to have the same problem like they just stop functioning when the screen is off. I get a flood of messages when i unlock the screen.
could it have something to do with device encryption? i don't think my phone always had these problems and that;s the only big change i can think of that i made.
I haven't had a single one of the listed issues on my Verizon phone other than the pretty bad low light camera, which does bum me out because it was weirdly a lot better on my G4? Daylight photos are absolutely beautiful.
I also use my alarm every night with no issues.
The update my phone downloaded last Friday seems to have fixed my issues with the alarm clock.
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Three Bluetooth issues

Hello. Picked up an Xperia X a couple months ago and have been generally happy with it, though I'm having some bluetooth issues ranging from annoying to infuriating that are preventing me from really enjoying this phone. Hope some of the gurus here can provide a some guidance on what I can do to fix or workaround these issues.
1. After some period of time listening to music/podcasts/whatever, the phone will automatically drop the volume by half and display the message:
Listening to sounds above the current volume level may permanently damage your hearing.
That's fine and dandy, but I'm controlling the volume through the bluetooth device, and the result is that it drops to a volume so low I can no longer hear it, and while it's a simple thing, it's infuriating every time it happens. Based on prior searches, I know this is a built-in "feature" and I know it's been part of the Xperia phones for a while, but is there any way to disable this behavior? I have my phone rooted, so root-level apps, Xposed modules, etc. are all on the table. This is my number one complaint with the phone, so would really appreciate any help here. Note: to clarify, I want to stop this *behavior*. I've found other discussions about killing similar warning messages, but nothing about how to prevent it from actually lowering the volume.
2. When connected to my car through bluetooth, I don't get metadata from the phone (AVRCP?). Bluetooth problems in general appear to be widely reported for Android 7.1.x on this phone, but most people seem to complain about being unable to pair their device at all. I can pair it fine, but I don't get metadata. However, prior to upgrading to 7.1 (while still on 6.0) metadata worked, and when running OmniROM 7.1.2 on this phone metadata also worked. So, it seems to be a problem with this particular version of the stock ROM for this phone.
Any ideas on how I can fix that? Again, maybe an xposed module or something that I've overlooked? or could I maybe swap out the bluetooth stack from OmniROM, which works fine? This is a much lesser annoyance than the above, but still interested in any suggestions.
3. Finally, this is a more subjective issue, but does anyone else have problems with bluetooth performance in general with this phone? On my last two phones, I kept my phone in my left pocket and played through a bluetooth headphones with the receiver on my right ear with generally no problems, other than the occasional hiccups that seem to affect every android device (at least every one I've used). With the Xperia X, however, trying to play with the phone in my left pocket skips so horribly that it's completely unlistenable. Moving it to my right pocket helps somewhat, but it's still flaky - turning my head sideways such that the receiver is over my shoulder causes skipping. I have to move my phone up into my jacket pocket in order for it to play (mostly) reliably.
Does anyone else have problems like this? Again, I never hard this problem with either of my two previous phones on the same set of headphones (have similar, but not as severe, issues in my car as well). I *did* have this same problem with OmniROM as well, and I have the problem with and without a case, so it seems hardware related, but if the bluetooth hardware was truly this bad I would expect to have seen more discussion about it. So, just wondering - is this just me, or do other people have this problem as well? I know it's unlikely, but any suggestions to improve this? Ie., possible to increase the bluetooth transmitter power or something like that?
Thanks, all. Sorry this turns out a little long, just wanted to properly explain. Looking forward to any suggestions.
I can confirm that on my XX Bluetooth signal is also weak, I have same issues at least with two Sony headsets (SBH60 and SBH80). Also with Bluetooth AptX receiver for my (home) audio it is quite similar, just walking behind corner from direct visibility and audio is choppy...
1. This error message appears very rarely, for me, not every 30 minutes. I have this phone for 1 year now and I encountered the warning 5-6 times.
2. Idk
3. True, Im pretty dissapointed by the bluetooth strenght. Also, the WiFi is super weak too. Very dissapointing.
This also happens on the Tablet Z, where I have external speakers connected. Nannytech run amok.
Replying to old thread, but got just new bluetooth headset and noticed also very poor bluetooth performance on my xperia x. Distance between phone and headset cant exceed half a meter, or music starts stopping and skipping. Even with my ancient backup phone, Iphone 4s, distance can be meters... Very poor desing from Sony.
Bluetooth in general eventually drove me away. Only got midling performance at best, but whatever chip or driver or whatever they were using also had performance issues with custom ROMs. Never found a single ROM not based on stock that worked 100% correctly with bluetooth, and given podcasts and music is probably about 90% of what I use my phone for (combined with Sony ending even security updates long ago at this point), that was a pretty big problem for me.
Ended up buying a Pixel 3a to replace it. My main concern about the 3a is that I wish it was a little bit smaller (really my concern with almost every well-spec'ed phone these days), but the bluetooth in that phone is solid. Longer range and better strength than any other bluetooth device I've ever used. Extremely happy with it.

Bluetooth call quality very bad

Hello Guys,
i am an owner of a Mate 20 Pro for about 2 weeks now and i am quite pleased with the device , specially battery and charging is like nothing i have ever seen on android.
my only problem with the device is Bluetooth calling quality. I used to have a galaxy S7 and was using it with my car android unit (a PX3 from seicane) and my AM61(huawei sports buds) without issues , once i changed to mate 20 pro i started getting complains from the people i called that they were not hearing me very well , most of the times i have to repeat my self quite a lot for someone to understand what i am saying.
i have tried numerous things, ie turn off // on VoLTE/WIFIcalling , factory resetting but still have the same issue. I am a bit desperate here since i spend a lot of time in my car and also use by earbuds during my workouts and its been quite frustrating. Also as far as listening from my bluetooth goes everything is superb , both hearing my caller and music.
My wired earbuds work flawlessly and of course the same goes for when i am talking directly from the phone. I am in Europe currently my firmware is 9.0.0.146.
To tell you the truth i am convinced it is a firmware issue and i will wait till the next upgrade , if this isn't resolve in the next update i will probably visit Huawei service center.
Also there is the chance that since my bluetooth devices are not bluetooth 5.0 there may be some incompatibility with mate 20 pro but there shouldn't be right ?
Anyway if you have some similar experience or even better any suggestions i am all ears.
I know people hate to hear this but I would say it's the devices you're using. I had much more issues with my Note 9 than I do with the Mate 20 pro on bluetooth.
With the car, maybe its the phone though using the phones mic instead of the car mic? This issue might be the phone.
Try and contact Huawei, they might patch it.
Hi Jonathan , i would go with the device as well if it wasn't for the fact that both my devices seem to have an issue with mate 20 pro, they were working perfectly(well nothing is perfect) till the day i stopped using my S7.
Anyway just wanted to know if i am the only one with issues since(might be a hardware issue) or if other people have the same issue(firmware, software) that may be solved in the future or maybe if anyone is using a specific bluetooth device with their mate 20 pro that works correctly , maybe i could give it a try, although i was quite happy with AM61 , i have gone through 3 pairs in the last year(i tend to loose them easily), but they are quite impressive for their price.
I am teriffied to have to go to something like the freebuds, or airpod style earbuds, lossing those will make a dent in my wallet
Hello
I am having the same problem with exactly the same earbuds am61
With mate 20 pro
Can someone suggest a decent headphone pair that works well with mate 20 pro. I have AM61 and a PX3 car stereo and both of them have the call quality issue, i was in .153 and the issue was better , now i am on .187 and it is even worse. I have a bluetooth 3.0 plantronics M50 that is working fine with the phone so this is no hardware issue.
I am looking for something that i can use for my workouts and my calls nothing special. i have found these on amazon maybe someone that has them can tell me if they work fine :
https://www.amazon.de/Soundcore-Akk...UTF8&qid=1550522072&sr=1-5&keywords=soundcore
i am looking for something at the price range of 30-60 euro, maybe a little more if they are really worth it.
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Can someone suggest a decent headphone pair that works well with mate 20 pro. I have AM61 and a PX3 car stereo and both of them have the call quality issue, i was in .153 and the issue was better , now i am on .187 and it is even worse. I have a bluetooth 3.0 plantronics M50 that is working fine with the phone so this is no hardware issue.
I am looking for something that i can use for my workouts and my calls nothing special. i have found these on amazon maybe someone that has them can tell me if they work fine :
https://www.amazon.de/Soundcore-Akk...UTF8&qid=1550522072&sr=1-5&keywords=soundcore
i am looking for something at the price range of 30-60 euro, maybe a little more if they are really worth it.
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I know its more than your budget but I use the bose soundsport free which are excellent and work with no problems with this phone.
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Happy to report that. 201 fixed my bluetooth issues for the most part, my callers report that call quality is tolerable both from my car Bluetooth as well as my am61 earphones. Will test further in the next few days.
Same issue here - On 9.0.0.187
Volkswagen Golf 7 2016
Voice sounds like its lagging and like metallic treble
Also i notice with Spotify will streaming music that the display unit is out of sync with what i am listening
It shows the title of the previous song that i have listen not the current one
Its like it cannot sync correctly
cyphex said:
Same issue here - On 9.0.0.187
Volkswagen Golf 7 2016
Voice sounds like its lagging and like metallic treble
Also i notice with Spotify will streaming music that the display unit is out of sync with what i am listening
It shows the title of the previous song that i have listen not the current one
Its like it cannot sync correctly
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At 9.0.0.210 now and although the problem seems to be a lot better it is not fixed. Main issue now is when the hotspot is on and you are sharing data bluetooth call quality is very bad.
Also i have noticed that when sharing data and stream music with A2DP over bluetooth you get skips in music , and no it is not my data connection. i am taking the same roads to work as when i had my S7 and had no issues there.
Well you can't have it all i guess, to tell you the truth since i am a heavy bluetooth user i am thinking of selling it and buying an S10 but going back to sammy is very difficult for me, i was a sammy user for the last 4-5 years both for tablets and phones and although the devices were great after 6-9 months i had lag issues and battery problems, i replaced my S7 after 2.5 years because pressing the call button took 5 seconds to actually start dialing and had to charge the battery 3 times a day. My tab S3 takes about 10 seconds to wake up in the morning and lags like hell even after doing a factory reset.
I am starting to think that Apples overpriced s***tphones are not a bad idea after all
xalaros said:
At 9.0.0.210 now and although the problem seems to be a lot better it is not fixed. Main issue now is when the hotspot is on and you are sharing data bluetooth call quality is very bad.
Also i have noticed that when sharing data and stream music with A2DP over bluetooth you get skips in music , and no it is not my data connection. i am taking the same roads to work as when i had my S7 and had no issues there.
Well you can't have it all i guess, to tell you the truth since i am a heavy bluetooth user i am thinking of selling it and buying an S10 but going back to sammy is very difficult for me, i was a sammy user for the last 4-5 years both for tablets and phones and although the devices were great after 6-9 months i had lag issues and battery problems, i replaced my S7 after 2.5 years because pressing the call button took 5 seconds to actually start dialing and had to charge the battery 3 times a day. My tab S3 takes about 10 seconds to wake up in the morning and lags like hell even after doing a factory reset.
I am starting to think that Apples overpriced s***tphones are not a bad idea after all
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Γεία σου χαλαρέ! To tell you the truth i am thinking the same
Maybe not a S10 but something else..
My only issue with Samsung is the rate of the upgrades. S10 comes with Pie and i am guessing that it will get Q a bit before S11 comes out! xD
Same issue with p30 pro with latest updates. S10 plus worked fine, but since i have p30 pro, people are complaining they can hear me just like in water

Question Xperia 1 mark III overheating

Hi,
I noticed my xperia 1 mark III is overheating even in normal use, especially in 120Hz mode. I hope sony will fix it as this device is really scalding.
It really burns!
This is the hottest device I ever had
Software version: 61.0.A.11.23
You're burning up your battery. Time is of the essence, resolve this issue fast. Shutdown the phone if it gets too hot!!!
Auto thermal shutdown may not protect the display/mobo especially if in hot ambient temperatures, in direct sunlight, or when charging.
Keep brightness at 50% or less.
Factory reset.
If that fails...
Find the apks or/and services causing to high drain.
If that fails, return the device.
The clock is ticking, Mr Wick tic-tok...
This is a serious problem. I took some photos and videos (4k and slowmotion) while standing in the sun. Outside temperature was about 23°C (73°F). After about 5 minutes I got an overheat message.
An app that I installed earlier registered an internal temperature of 40.5°c. It felt really hot to (while in a bumper case).
After I put the phone on a granite kitchen table it cooled down in about 10 minutes.
jordidejongh said:
This is a serious problem. I took some photos and videos (4k and slowmotion) while standing in the sun. Outside temperature was about 23°C (73°F). After about 5 minutes I got an overheat message.
An app that I installed earlier registered an internal temperature of 40.5°c. It felt really hot to (while in a bumper case).
After I put the phone on a granite kitchen table it cooled down in about 10 minutes.
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It is serious. Turn off the phone when it feels very warm before it goes over temperature.
Using a AMOLED display in direct sunlight is never a good plan. Limit it to seconds of use.
I have had this same problem since I got it to the point where I got an alert that some apps would be shutdown.
US Version purchased from Adoroma in the states : 61.0.A.11.23
Just another aggravating issue with this phone. Some are having boot loops of a sort also! What is wrong with these companies? Can they not produce a decent product anymore? 1300.00 and it's junk???????????
I am getting overheating as well, a little warm most of the time I use the phone.
Definitely was the 120hz display turned on. Less warm when the 60.
When using the wireless charger.
Anytime I use the cameras.
I am on the latest update as well.
Hm, very intriguing issue with $1300 flagship smartphone from such a respectable brand. I had similar problem with Xperia 1 II in several occasions. And... I think I know what's the problem (not bloody hot SD888 as you might suggest!). Please have a good look at dissasembly video:
Then compare it with $390 LG V60 ThinQ disassembly video from the same guy. Spot the difference! And it is - missing cooling system on Xperia 1 II / 1 III whereas LG V60 has quite big copper vapour chamber! Maybe that's why my LG V60 never gets really hot. So the question is ... WTF are you doing SONY?!
Well, I just sent back my first Pixel - 5A - for overheating. I have been watching the 1 iii and the 5 iii as a possible purchase...but I am turned off by the dedicated assistant button that might possibly be remappable... but for sure I will NOT buy either of these mark 3 phones if they overheat! Makes me sick just how badly most new phones are functioning.
Yeah same, it seems to turn off randomly when using the cameras and when 120HZ screen is on.
senzazn12 said:
Yeah same, it seems to turn off randomly when using the cameras and when 120HZ screen is on.
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I think it's the case for warranty replacement or even return if possible. This is one of the reason why I don't buy expensive brand new phones parallel imported (not officially sold in my country). Just because it means no proper warranty, no service, no nothing.
My Xperia 1 III is getting extremely hot even when taking photos (only 2-3) then get message about hot temperature and apps shutting down.
I use Streamlabs mostly (sometimes Prism) to broadcast to YouTube, foundthe phone almost useless! Overheating in seconds from start of s stream! I'm using my old Samsung Note 10 again as Sony wasn't simply useful.
Now I found a solution to it (sorry solution is too big word)
- I've turned "object tracking" off in camera
- I've turned autofocus on in camera
- I've turned 120hz off
Today we had hot day here in UK (27 Celcius ) I did my tests.
Streamlabs at 1080p , 7000kbps , 30fps run outdoor for about an hour smoothly. Connected to charger started to overheat.
Not to mention that tethering makes it hot quickly (so with Samsung).
Prism at 1080p 60fps run smoothly for couple of minutes and then crashed.
Didn't connect the charger.
I use Streamlabs to transmit 5-6 hours of stream into YouTube using mobile network in most if the times and whilst driving (so changing stations constantly)
I found that using WiFi it doesn't get as hot.
Also charging makes it very hot - SONY advertised it as able to by powered directly by a charger without charging battery, how and where do I find that option?
Is it available using car charger with quick charge 3.0?
I like the phone , like the shape , size and feel to it. Camera is OK (I own Sony a6500 )
Hate the fact of poor selfie camera in such expensive phone (I do live streams using selfie cam too)
Right I've ordered a return of my phone and have 30 days to send it back what alternatives do I have? Really like the SONY if it wasn't overheating I'd love it. Is there a solution to it? Cooler anything?
The things I like about the phone are:
*shape and overall feel in hand
*Cameras are ok don't really see if they great quality or not will still use my a6500 camera.
*Like the fact that can use sd card
*Love finger print reader in power button and seperate camera button
*like the fact that there's no rounded edges - hate them in my Samsung Note
I blame my problems with overheating by poorly made apps not the phone itself and not sure changing the phone will change it.
What are the options should I consider? Samsung S21 Ultra ? iPhone 12,13?
I'm a SONY fan and had many if their phones and that's why I'm looking for a solution otherwise would send it back straight away...
Can anyone help me with my problem?
Many thanks
Bart
Unfortunately greedy sony didn't provide any cooling solution to mark 3... Check disassembly videos, there is no any cooling solution at all, like you will find in asus - small vapor chamber etc. Literally nothing!
They knew snap 888 is overheating. They must have tested this device before releasing it, isn't it?
But no, still didn't apply any cooling solution. And that's a big shame and huge problem of this device.
Not sure if qualcomm provide any updated drivers to assess this problem or not. Or if sony will try to fix it. So far they did nothing and still it overheats. Mine too and you are right by saying that on 3G/5G it is hotter than on wifi.
I wonder how they can market battery as capable and better for 3 years with such hot device. Temperature of course has huge negative impact on battery longevity.
Sad but true
I'm quite shocked! Thanks for the info about disassembly videos...
I'm thinking if getting a cooler which you attach to the body.
What I forgot to mention that cameras itself (the lenses) don't get that hot is the area under them and closer to the centre. So must be processor and lack of cooling system.
Not sure what to do...
We have a hot weather now so I will test it intensively (if I was a Sony tester I'd never allow for the phone to be released like this).
Heating problems is why I keep saying that for any SOC/CPU/GPU manufacturer to keep upping the speeds of these things is STUPID! I can virtually guarantee that from now on every new CPU produced by all OEM's is going to overheat! Have you ever walked into a data center, with hundreds of servers running? You have to wear ear protection because the roar of all the internal cooling fans is deafening!
So then "we" attempt to put similar CPU's inside a device the size of a small remote control WITHOUT a fan and wonder why it overheats? There are only so many ways to keep the phone(s) cool. Use them while frozen solid in a block of ice, or better yet, stop running so many CPU/GPU intensive apps all at the same time. It's simple thermodynamics at work here. The more you have running at the same time, the harder the SOC needs to work, the hotter it is going to run. Another solution, that is literally unacceptable to most people, is to code in a lowering of the speed of the SOC. If this needs to be done then it becomes very clear that building a new, faster SOC every year is STUPID!
One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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This is applicable with the game enhancer. You can add some apps there and when you open it, you can enable HS power control. Also sony just release a new firmware that answer you with this issue.. you can check my video
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One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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Have to sit at the outlet all the time? or how will this happen?
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This is applicable with the game enhancer. You can add some apps there and when you open it, you can enable HS power control. Also sony just release a new firmware that answer you with this issue.. you can check my video
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Thanks a lot , tomorrow I will be testing - doing long live stream on YouTube using Streamlabs, I always keep my phone under charger as I drive HGV sometimes for 3-4hrs non stop so battery would die.
It also going to be hot day here in UK and having the phone close to windscreen won't help - I know I shouldn't complain about overheating in such circumstances but my phone overheats even when taking photos although I have a feeling that after last system update its looking better , also as I mentioned before switching off object tracking has improved how smooth camera works using Streamlabs and Prism.
I'm considering buying a cooler for my phone too.
I will post my report tomorrow of how it went.
Many thanks
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Have to sit at the outlet all the time? or how will this happen?
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I found the future now in Game Enhancer app, you can power it directly. Not sure how it will perform yet. Tomorrow will send my report.
I often run streaming app in the background and not sure if Game Enhancer will work that way. I run nav app (Sygic Truck).
Heat problem has gone down significantly for me after the latest update yesterday. Usually the phone got really warm even with me just browsing using Chrome or going through Facebook. Now even when playing ROK or Mobile Legends it doesn't get that warm.

General Switched to OnePlus 10 Pro

Been a fanboy of Pixel since Nexus 4. The best models I think would be the original Pixel, Pixel 2 XL and Pixel 5. Good solid phones for my use without any problems that would bother me.
Pixel 5 was great, I kept it even after getting a Pixel 6 and would occasionally pop a sim card in it to use. I don't do any gaming and P5 had everything I needed besides a bit slow processor sometimes.
Pixel 6 on the other side would constantly make me annoyed. Don't like the size, it's bulky. Oneplus is even easier for one hand use even though it's a little bigger overall.
I am a truck driver and go to many different places. The modem in this phone is just horrendous. It loses signal or has bad connection in places where other phones perform just fine.
Even at my home, P6 is basically unusable, while OnePlus has good enough connection (Verizon).
Charging P6 is a bad experience too. Takes forever if phone is being used and gets hot. Overheating is actually a big problem here. I often use video calling and never ever did I have another phone turning off mobile network, because it got too hot, after 40 minutes of talking.
I just got tired of constant bugs and really happy about finally switching to a different phone. Oneplus does not seem to have any of those problems so far. Great cell connection and charging speed is just incredible. Software seems to be fine, have not had any glitches yet. Overall I would highly recommend it over a Pixel 6
Different price tags
Is there a reason why you can't just move on?
It all most sounds like you have remorse for getting rid of the P6.
For me , i charge my phone once daily and it lasts form 5 am to 12 pm with 5h of sot.
I have a fast charger for when i really need to charge it fast , but usually i charge it with a slow charger during the night.
Its all i need.
About network, i have no problems. No 5g in my area but i have 4g and it offers good enough speed even for streaming 1080p.
5g spends more battery though
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Is there a reason why you can't just move on?
It all most sounds like you have remorse for getting rid of the P6.
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Just sharing my experience. I would not say it's a remorse, its more of a sadness, frustration with hardware and disappointment that I had to leave the Pixel line.
Got really used to the software over the years
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The same problems apply to 6 Pro
IDK what this post is supposed to achieve but just for the protocol I'd say that I never had any of the issues mentioned by OP.
It's my first google phone , coming from oneplus 3, and i really enjoy it so far.
I Agree with those issues not sure OnePlus 10 is a smart move now though OOS is dead colour OS is
I currently own pixel 6 and a op7t
Charging time is crazy given the battery.Then there is the fingerprint reader
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I Agree with those issues not sure OnePlus 10 is a smart move now though OOS is dead colour OS is
I currently own pixel 6 and a op7t
Charging time is crazy given the battery.Then there is the fingerprint reader
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Oxygen is alive for 10 Pro, just got a new update yesterday actually
moldovanos said:
Been a fanboy of Pixel since Nexus 4. The best models I think would be the original Pixel, Pixel 2 XL and Pixel 5. Good solid phones for my use without any problems that would bother me.
Pixel 5 was great, I kept it even after getting a Pixel 6 and would occasionally pop a sim card in it to use. I don't do any gaming and P5 had everything I needed besides a bit slow processor sometimes.
Pixel 6 on the other side would constantly make me annoyed. Don't like the size, it's bulky. Oneplus is even easier for one hand use even though it's a little bigger overall.
I am a truck driver and go to many different places. The modem in this phone is just horrendous. It loses signal or has bad connection in places where other phones perform just fine.
Even at my home, P6 is basically unusable, while OnePlus has good enough connection (Verizon).
Charging P6 is a bad experience too. Takes forever if phone is being used and gets hot. Overheating is actually a big problem here. I often use video calling and never ever did I have another phone turning off mobile network, because it got too hot, after 40 minutes of talking.
I just got tired of constant bugs and really happy about finally switching to a different phone. Oneplus does not seem to have any of those problems so far. Great cell connection and charging speed is just incredible. Software seems to be fine, have not had any glitches yet. Overall I would highly recommend it over a Pixel 6
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Hi.
Interesting reasons why you want to leave the pixel phone....
1. Pixel 6 is bulky (by your own admission the OnePlus 10 pro is bulkier). I can add you one more; OnePlus 10 pro has a curved screen which, if you are a driver as you claim, is really bad because of accidental touches.
2. Modem ; granted I have some problems with this but from my experience as a user of the pixel 6 this is a problem I had on my esim and seems not to be prevalent on the physical SIM. But that is just me so I think this may be a legitimate concern which for now I do not experience (I travel extensively for work by the way)
3. Bad charging experience. You probably did not buy a proper charger for it. Were you using the specified tech for it? I have been using my pixel 4a 5g charger on the pixel 6 (for obvious reasons that the 6 did not come with one) and the charging was very modest. This charger is 18watts which is not fast charging for the pixel 6. However I went for the recommended PD charger that does 30watts and I am not doing Rapid charging. The pixel does around 23 watt on fast charging and I get very fast speeds with that. But this is probably nothing close to the warp charging on the OnePlus 10 pro but honestly this is not a game changer for me as a person on the move. I have a fast charging car charger which is always ready on the go.
4. Heating: honestly this has happened to me when I used the OnePlus 9 pro and worse when I am on a video call, with the phone charging and having placed it on my dash phone holder holder. If I don't have to hold the phone it is fine with me. The pixel 4a 5g would occassionally go off on me because of temperature increase but this has never happened on the pixel 6.
5. Constant bugs....yeah....this has become like a song for everyone leaving the pixel 6. Honestly I went for the pixel because I know I am on the cutting edge of software and I expect some things not to go well. I have options to change from one OS to another so bugs do not bug me (no pun intended). In any case OnePlus has been known to similarly have bugs. Maybe the OnePlus 10 pro is resting on a conservatively stable software which most likely is not the most recent. Please note that the pixel is not a conservative phone like the OnePlus 10 pro. The system chip is new and not mainstream, backing a groundbreaking AI agenda which is pushing grounds to places where people have not explored before ....this is an adventure into the future of mobile telephony...if you are not the person into adventures and trying new things then the pixel is probably not for you. You will most likely receive the newest updates with newest features never tried on another device and this may break a few things and you have to have the tenacity to wait out the growth with excitememt...otherwise go for a conservative device which may appear to have all the bells and whistles but for me does not whet my appetite.
My 2 cents
moldovanos said:
Been a fanboy of Pixel since Nexus 4. The best models I think would be the original Pixel, Pixel 2 XL and Pixel 5. Good solid phones for my use without any problems that would bother me.
Pixel 5 was great, I kept it even after getting a Pixel 6 and would occasionally pop a sim card in it to use. I don't do any gaming and P5 had everything I needed besides a bit slow processor sometimes.
Pixel 6 on the other side would constantly make me annoyed. Don't like the size, it's bulky. Oneplus is even easier for one hand use even though it's a little bigger overall.
I am a truck driver and go to many different places. The modem in this phone is just horrendous. It loses signal or has bad connection in places where other phones perform just fine.
Even at my home, P6 is basically unusable, while OnePlus has good enough connection (Verizon).
Charging P6 is a bad experience too. Takes forever if phone is being used and gets hot. Overheating is actually a big problem here. I often use video calling and never ever did I have another phone turning off mobile network, because it got too hot, after 40 minutes of talking.
I just got tired of constant bugs and really happy about finally switching to a different phone. Oneplus does not seem to have any of those problems so far. Great cell connection and charging speed is just incredible. Software seems to be fine, have not had any glitches yet. Overall I would highly recommend it over a Pixel 6
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Hi.
Interesting reasons why you want to leave the pixel phone....
1. Pixel 6 is bulky (by your own admission the OnePlus 10 pro is bulkier). I can add you one more; OnePlus 10 pro has a curved screen which, if you are a driver as you claim, is really bad because of accidental touches.
2. Modem ; granted I have some problems with this but from my experience as a user of the pixel 6 this is a problem I had on my esim and seems not to be prevalent on the physical SIM. But that is just me so I think this may be a legitimate concern which for now I do not experience (I travel extensively for work by the way)
3. Bad charging experience. You probably did not buy a proper charger for it. Were you using the specified tech for it? I have been using my pixel 4a 5g charger on the pixel 6 (for obvious reasons that the 6 did not come with one) and the charging was very modest. This charger is 18watts which is not fast charging for the pixel 6. However I went for the recommended PD charger that does 30watts and I am now doing Rapid charging. The pixel does around 23 watt on fast charging and I get very fast speeds with that. But this is probably nothing close to the warp charging on the OnePlus 10 pro but honestly this is not a game changer for me as a person on the move. I have a fast charging car charger which is always ready on the go.
4. Heating: honestly this has happened to me when I used the OnePlus 9 pro and worse when I am on a video call, with the phone charging and having placed it on my dash phone holder holder. If I don't have to hold the phone it is fine with me. The pixel 4a 5g would occassionally go off on me because of temperature increase but this has never happened on the pixel 6.
5. Constant bugs....yeah....this has become like a song for everyone leaving the pixel 6. Honestly I went for the pixel because I know I am on the cutting edge of software and I expect some things not to go well. I have options to change from one OS to another so bugs do not bug me (no pun intended). In any case OnePlus has been known to similarly have bugs. Maybe the OnePlus 10 pro is resting on a conservatively stable software which most likely is not the most recent. Please note that the pixel is not a conservative phone like the OnePlus 10 pro. The system chip is new and not mainstream, backing a groundbreaking AI agenda which is pushing grounds to places where people have not explored before ....this is an adventure into the future of mobile telephony...if you are not the person into adventures and trying new things then the pixel is probably not for you. You will most likely receive the newest updates with newest features never tried on another device and this may break a few things and you have to have the tenacity to wait out the growth with excitememt...otherwise go for a conservative device which may appear to have all the bells and whistles but for me does not whet my appetite
The Pixel 6 BETA hardware train LOLz
Limeybastard said:
The Pixel 6 BETA hardware train LOLz
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It has always been this way with all of the Google series phones. (Nexus).
New hardware and software on release day. Beta testing in the spring.
Not only that, it teaches peeps the ins and outs of adb/fastboot,terminal, coding android, etc...
vandyman said:
It has always been this way with all of the Google series phones. (Nexus).
New hardware and software on release day. Beta testing in the spring.
Not only that, it teaches peeps the ins and outs of adb/fastboot,terminal, coding android, etc...
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So in essence the expensive device not working is in fact a benefit in disguise ? Joking aside, Im with you to the point of tweaking and such to get things ironed out, us droid freaks love doing that, but I was talking about the many things that don't work correctly out of the box for the Pixel 6 series and its user base of complaints. Perhaps I they are exaggerated.
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So in essence the expensive device not working is in fact a benefit in disguise ? Joking aside, Im with you to the point of tweaking and such to get things ironed out, us droid freaks love doing that, but I was talking about the many things that don't work correctly out of the box for the Pixel 6 series and its user base of complaints. Perhaps I they are exaggerated.
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There are choices. If a person does not like the Pixel. Good for them. But there is no reason to keep on harping negativity.
Or is it that some people just like to complain about anything.
(insert violin music here)
vandyman said:
There are choices. If a person does not like the Pixel. Good for them. But there is no reason to keep on harping negativity.
Or is it that some people just like to complain about anything.
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Good lord, I make an opinion ( based on research )and now its labelled as "harping" ,Opinions are like A holes everyone has one. I was merely asking you as a Pixel owner what are your feelings about this device are you happy , did it bring value into your world?
I've had pixels and OP's for most of the past 5-7 years. Loved the Pixel 3, got a 5 and liked it too but a bit underpowered. Had/still have an OP7T as my "big" phone. With google still offering decent trade-in value I just traded my P5 for a P6 (second go-around with the 6) and it cost less than CAD $500 so no brainer there and I do finally like it now that the most annoying bugs are gone, put a d-brand skin on it to make it less slippery. Was very tempted by OP10+ but I'm pissed with OP's recent (since OP9) lack of focus and their smoke and mirrors BS with the "Hasselblad" camera system etc. Oh, that and it being twice the price of a P6...! So, sticking with Pixels for now. Might go back to OP someday if they stop flip-flopping with hardware for the sake of marketing.
moldovanos said:
Been a fanboy of Pixel since Nexus 4. The best models I think would be the original Pixel, Pixel 2 XL and Pixel 5. Good solid phones for my use without any problems that would bother me.
Pixel 5 was great, I kept it even after getting a Pixel 6 and would occasionally pop a sim card in it to use. I don't do any gaming and P5 had everything I needed besides a bit slow processor sometimes.
Pixel 6 on the other side would constantly make me annoyed. Don't like the size, it's bulky. Oneplus is even easier for one hand use even though it's a little bigger overall.
I am a truck driver and go to many different places. The modem in this phone is just horrendous. It loses signal or has bad connection in places where other phones perform just fine.
Even at my home, P6 is basically unusable, while OnePlus has good enough connection (Verizon).
Charging P6 is a bad experience too. Takes forever if phone is being used and gets hot. Overheating is actually a big problem here. I often use video calling and never ever did I have another phone turning off mobile network, because it got too hot, after 40 minutes of talking.
I just got tired of constant bugs and really happy about finally switching to a different phone. Oneplus does not seem to have any of those problems so far. Great cell connection and charging speed is just incredible. Software seems to be fine, have not had any glitches yet. Overall I would highly recommend it over a Pixel 6
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Glad to see your post. I been thinking of going to a One Plus 9 Pro over my Pixel 6.

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