Google cutting ties with Huawei - Huawei P10 Guides, News, & Discussion

Hello friends,
I've been following telegram groups (Huawei exploits) for information regarding the unlocking of my bootloader since Huawei never responded to my request prior to cancelling their services.
This info was announced moments ago, and thought I would share it with you.
Play Store and Google services will be a thing of the past it seems.
This is the article linked in telegram.
https://9to5google.com/2019/05/19/google-huawei-play-store-report/
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Statement from Huawei...
“Huawei has made substantial contributions to the development and growth of Android around the world. As one of Android’s key global partners, we have worked closely with their open-source platform to develop an ecosystem that has benefitted both users and the industry.
Huawei will continue to provide security updates and after-sales services to all existing Huawei and Honor smartphone and tablet products, covering those that have been sold and that are still in stock globally.
We will continue to build a safe and sustainable software ecosystem, in order to provide the best experience for all users globally.”

No security patches from March patch
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If it really happens "Without Google Products" how Huawei will keep its market share???

Their market share will go down obviously. They're working on the replacement which should be legal in China which is a huge market and should attract many developers. Over 100M phones sold by Huawei each year is also no slouch.

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Honor new hand phone equipped with Huawei 'scary technology'

Have you guys heard of Huawei gound-breaking technology?
I read a news https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/05/...gy-improve-product-feature-inside-honor-play/
President of Honor, Zhao Ming has revealed that Huawei will showcase its latest breakthrough technology at an event on 28th May. Further, the same technology will be used in the upcoming Honor Play smartphone, which is scheduled to officially launch on 6th June.
Yu Chengdong, Chairman of Huawei Device, announced that Huawei will soon launch this breakthrough technology and added that it will mark as the company’s landmark for 2018. While he has not revealed what this major breakthrough technology is, he said that the technology will significantly improve the performance of its products. Describing the effect of this upcoming technology, Yu Chengdong said that difference in speed of mobile phones is equivalent to the difference between “running on the ground” and “flying in the sky.”
So, there are two highlights here. One is that Huawei will soon launch its revolutionary technology which makes their products "flying in the sky" and another one is that Honor is going to release a new phone called Honor Play.
I suppose the new technology is the improvement of its AI, since it didn't mention about the advancement of handware. As for the new product Honor Play, will it be a new flagship of Honor?

[Discussion] Android 9/Pei update for V10 - Beta started in China

While checking I found this URL -
which claims that Android 9.0 update has been rolled out to few test users in China (closed beta group) which indicates we may soon expect the Android 9 hitting a stable release in China followed by global release.
Highlight from GizChina article-
president of Huawei’s mobile phone product line, He Gang, revealed that Huawei Mate 10 Pro, Huawei P20, Honor 10, and Honor V10 models have simultaneously started Android 9 Pie beta testing. He further stated that Huawei’s engineers are already working hard to perfect the system.
According to Huawei’s pollen club’s announcement, the above-mentioned models pushed an internal test version to a small number of pollen users on August 6. The official internal testing recruitment activities for the majority of pollen users will commence as soon as the update is ready.
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According to Google, the new Android 9 Pie has two major upgrades. The first is its support for the recently popularized notch. In the developer mode, the Android 9 Pie system can simulate the notch and optimize the notification bar.
Secondly, the system efficiency is optimized which means that Android 9 Pie takes a shorter time to launch apps and the overall performance is better. At the same time, Android 9 Pie also displays the idle applications using the phone microphone, camera, and other sensors. The security of Android 9 Pie is better than the previous versions.
I found the similar article on GSM Arena: https://m.gsmarena.com/four_huawei_...ing_tested_with_android_90_pie-news-32670.php
I'm really satisfied with these news. Can't wait for the update, although it'll take a while. ?
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
ciew said:
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
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Maybe they'll skip 8.1 and go for 9.0 directly?
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ciew said:
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
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Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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KOLIOSIS said:
Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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The European Version of Honor view 10 is still on 8.0, on July Patch. Doesn't matter as im still on May patch because Huawei cant push out a ****ing patch to my phone for no god damn reason
Danfenn said:
The European Version of Honor view 10 is still on 8.0, on July Patch. Doesn't matter as im still on May patch because Huawei cant push out a ****ing patch to my phone for no god damn reason
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Is that EMUI 8.0 or Android 8.0
Just asking because the version I have (BKL-L04) has EMUI 8.0,but,is on Android 8.1:
That's Android 8.1 but you have the AMERICAN MODEL, The European version doesn't have android 8.1,
Notice your model is t C567 but mine is c430 which is the Europe version
Danfenn said:
That's Android 8.1 but you have the AMERICAN MODEL, The European version doesn't have android 8.1,
Notice your model is t C567 but mine is c430 which is the Europe version
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Yeah,I get that,was just checking that we were talking about the version of Android,not the version of EMUI.
I'm in agreement 100%,there is absolutely no reason for the fragmentation of Android versions on what is virtually the same exact phone.
KOLIOSIS said:
Yeah,I get that,was just checking that we were talking about the version of Android,not the version of EMUI.
I'm in agreement 100%,there is absolutely no reason for the fragmentation of Android versions on what is virtually the same exact phone.
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As far as Huawei / Honor is concerned, EMUI 8 has most changes found in Android 8.1 and also the Co. views the incremental updates as a major update. Their phones get two major Android updates and all phones released in 2018, whether with Android 8.0 or 8.1 would directly be updated to Android 9
iamsabresh said:
As far as Huawei / Honor is concerned, EMUI 8 has most changes found in Android 8.1 and also the Co. views the incremental updates as a major update. Their phones get two major Android updates and all phones released in 2018, whether with Android 8.0 or 8.1 would directly be updated to Android 9
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That may be true,but,it still doesn't explain why the European version is on Android 8.0 & the NA version is on Android 8.1.
It may not matter to you,but,right or wrong,it matters to the end user.
Why give the impression that Huawei values some regions over others,especially on the same device?
It leaves a bad taste in the mouth & may cause some current owners to look elsewhere for their next phone purchase.
Especially w/Huawei's recent climb in market share,it also gives the impression that they don't have to worry about how the end user thinks or feels about their phone.
Along w/the recent policy change regarding the bootloader unlock,those are two areas of great concern to perhaps a small,but,very vocal community of users.......just something to think about.....
While I'm satisfied w/my Honor View 10,I can state it's the last Huawei device I purchase,unless Huawei changes their stance on locked bootloaders................
KOLIOSIS said:
That may be true,but,it still doesn't explain why the European version is on Android 8.0 & the NA version is on Android 8.1.
It may not matter to you,but,right or wrong,it matters to the end user.
Why give the impression that Huawei values some regions over others,especially on the same device?
It leaves a bad taste in the mouth & may cause some current owners to look elsewhere for their next phone purchase.
Especially w/Huawei's recent climb in market share,it also gives the impression that they don't have to worry about how the end user thinks or feels about their phone.
Along w/the recent policy change regarding the bootloader unlock,those are two areas of great concern to perhaps a small,but,very vocal community of users.......just something to think about.....
While I'm satisfied w/my Honor View 10,I can state it's the last Huawei device I purchase,unless Huawei changes their stance on locked bootloaders................
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I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei. Regarding them releasing the same device with different android versions in different markets, it poses an issue only to a small group of people and I agree that it is wrong to other users, but we've been complaining about different regional firmware on Huawei devices since EMUI 4, but they have only turned a cold shoulder. A single international firmware (apart from their Chinese one) would help in faster software updates to all devices.
iamsabresh said:
I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei. Regarding them releasing the same device with different android versions in different markets, it poses an issue only to a small group of people and I agree that it is wrong to other users, but we've been complaining about different regional firmware on Huawei devices since EMUI 4, but they have only turned a cold shoulder. A single international firmware (apart from their Chinese one) would help in faster software updates to all devices.
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Your last statement is the head-scratcher(as to why there's not a universal Int'l firmware...................admittedly,Huawei isn't alone here,other mfgs are guilty of the same practice.
If the carriers are involved,as in the US,with their own bloat/etc....... I have to give 'em (Huawei & others) the benefit of the doubt.
If I could disable & re-enable Phone Manager at will w/o root,or,any other system apps (ADB allows for removal,but,a factory reset is needed to bring it back),I could forgo root on this phone.....
EMUI 4,I guess that goes back a ways,LOL,I had a long gap between Huawei Devices : OG Huawei Ascend m860 w/CM7 & some of the more current Huawei/Honor devices.
Have a great weekend! :good:
KOLIOSIS said:
Your last statement is the head-scratcher(as to why there's not a universal Int'l firmware...................admittedly,Huawei isn't alone here,other mfgs are guilty of the same practice.
If the carriers are involved,as in the US,with their own bloat/etc....... I have to give 'em (Huawei & others) the benefit of the doubt.
If I could disable & re-enable Phone Manager at will w/o root,or,any other system apps (ADB allows for removal,but,a factory reset is needed to bring it back),I could forgo root on this phone.....
EMUI 4,I guess that goes back a ways,LOL,I had a long gap between Huawei Devices : OG Huawei Ascend m860 w/CM7 & some of the more current Huawei/Honor devices.
Have a great weekend! :good:
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I really don't get Carrier based devices as the specific distribution channel really doesn't work well in Asian markets (I'm from India). I'd really wish if Huawei / Honor took the Oneplus route with a single firmware internationally. Oneplus beats Huawei / Honor in terms of software update reputation mainly because of their ease of updating their devices worldwide. I'd also like to get an android one version of Honor flagships. That'd be great, don't you think?
iamsabresh said:
I really don't get Carrier based devices as the specific distribution channel really doesn't work well in Asian markets (I'm from India). I'd really wish if Huawei / Honor took the Oneplus route with a single firmware internationally. Oneplus beats Huawei / Honor in terms of software update reputation mainly because of their ease of updating their devices worldwide. I'd also like to get an android one version of Honor flagships. That'd be great, don't you think?
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Now you're talkin', I'd get an Android One Huawei device, with or without root.
I had the Xiaomi Mi A1, that was a nice phone, especially at the price point. :good:
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Masinac85 said:
I found the similar article on GSM Arena: https://m.gsmarena.com/four_huawei_...ing_tested_with_android_90_pie-news-32670.php
I'm really satisfied with these news. Can't wait for the update, although it'll take a while. ?
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Yeah but unfortunately i can't unlock bootloader and debrand to China to use Pie early and will have to wait for update to release for other regions
KOLIOSIS said:
Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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Only US on EMUI/android 8.1 (haven't heard of China yet) but others are still on 8.0
KOLIOSIS said:
Is that EMUI 8.0 or Android 8.0
Just asking because the version I have (BKL-L04) has EMUI 8.0,but,is on Android 8.1:
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US model was released late directly with 8.1
iamsabresh said:
I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei.
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I wonder why you and other people thinks bootloader unlocking has something to do with the US and EU security concerns, when it should be the other way around.
If you think about it, it's the other way around, meaning that with an unlockable bootloader, security researchers, NSA, CIA, you name it, could investigate on what's happening under the hood, while with a locked bootloader all this it's very hard to crack.
US was never concerned about Huawei devices being easy to crack because their bootloader can be unlocked, but their concerns were about China spying on US citizens, government, etc. Same goes with EU.
What would help Huawei, is open sourcing their chipset, being more transparent to the eye of the security researchers and developers, not closing their system even more.
shashank1320 said:
Only US on EMUI/android 8.1 (haven't heard of China yet) but others are still on 8.0
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Your comment hammers home my point,the phone was released elsewhere 1st & stands to reason that earlier adopters would have 8.1 before the newer regions.
The explanation given earlier ,that the latest EMUI has all the features of Android 8.1,regardless of which version of Android you're running,is illogical.
If that's the case,then why would Huawei bother with an updated version of Android on one region & not others.
It's crazy,so,that is why one with a model running Android 8.1 would make the assumption the other regions are on the same version......
Yes,I'm sure it's been discussed here in other threads & I've missed that discrepancy,obviously,until now.
I have no complaints w/the phone,one of the best overall I've owned,especially with the price of admission,so,I haven't had the need to read every thread & response.......

Huawei Mate 10 Pro, where's EMUI 8.1, when is OK Google gonna work, landscape homescr

Hi Members, when are UK HM10pro phone and users going to get the EMUI 8.1 firmware Android update (if ever), why does OK Google still not work, with it still greyed out, why have they still not sorted out having the home screen in landscape view (not just the apps).
I think Huawei leave a previous model behind ,like all Chinese makers, forget about there users of a previous model, and concentrate on there upcoming phone (The Mate 20 Pro)
I have the latest OTA UK user updates, I even tried that Huawei beta program app (load of rubbish, only for Chinese models).
I think this will be my first, and last Huawei phone product, I think I'll stick with Samsung next time (updates always funelled through at some point with them)
If anyone has an idea on resolving these issues, please post (I've done may full phone resets, so don't bother with this suggestion thanks)
I've also emailed Huawei many times about all the above issues, with there finale help being an update will come (or in the next update), this was months ago now, so very unreliable support.
Thanks
Same here. I regret buying mate Pro. Waiting for one plus 6t n I will get rid of this 10 pro. Absolute bollocks
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liviococcia said:
Hi Members, when are UK HM10pro phone and users going to get the EMUI 8.1 firmware Android update (if ever), why does OK Google still not work, with it still greyed out, why have they still not sorted out having the home screen in landscape view (not just the apps).
I think Huawei leave a previous model behind ,like all Chinese makers, forget about there users of a previous model, and concentrate on there upcoming phone (The Mate 20 Pro)
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Thanks
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Looks like we´ll never get EMUI 8.1 in the west, most likely EMUI 9 on Pie soon, as Pie beta program is running and expected to end Nov-30 so far.
Regarding UK devices, if you have some experience try rebranding to EU, which is constantly updated(on October security patch today). I posted a little guide to go UK -> EU on UK thread, check it out if you´re interested: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77825017&postcount=470
Hi All, thanks for the input and comments, so what it really comes down to is ..."don't buy Huawei again" from the vibes that I'm getting here.
I wouldn't want to do any unlocking and rooting, just to have bug fixed update, which should be offered by the manufacturer as a 'duty bound product service' provider anyway, ..no, this is not acceptable.
My only course of action is not to buy there products again, as a consumer that's the power we all have, and we should invoke this stance buy the casual manner by which Huawei, or anyother manufacturer chooses to do so.
Our mistake as buyers is, that we allow these large profit mongering technology companies to continue.
I don't include the likes of Apple, or Samsung, or Sony, these companies have a strong and proven track record, and in the end, are a safer bet with standing by there technology, and supporting there products a little more.
Thanks you members who posted comments.
Regards
Since getting a Mate 10 in February it has received improved night mode camera, monthly security updates, GPU Turbo (never used this), and face unlock. I am happy with that. Much better than Mate 9 that did not get any new features until Oreo arrived in January, and only security updates every 3 or 4 months. 8.1 is out on Chinese Mate 10 models, and Pie is on the way bring it on
This is for C185 region
OK Google Update
OK Google still not working here in UK, any idea when Mate 10 Pro will get Android Pie?? Im still on Android security Patch 1 June 2018 with no updates available? Anyone got a newer security patch?
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EMUI 8.0.0
LG and Samsung are as crap as Huawei for updates.
Good luck ever seeing an update on a LG - the wife's G6 (which was mine before she had it) had no security updates while it ran Android 7, was updated to Oreo, and has had one security update since.

Huawei, ZTE back in the news, again.

Seems like no end of troubles regarding the two companies. After the arrest of the Huawei CFO in Canada articles have been popping up all over. This one from Gizmodo is more of an overview of what's going on including Japan's reservations regarding both companies.
Everything That Happened With Huawei While You Were Sleeping - https://gizmodo.com/everything-that-happened-with-huawei-while-you-were-sle-1830929804
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I would like to have more details, from an end user's standpoint, on how to access the apps that are absent from the Huawei App Gallery, and whether there will be some workflow to be able to get them working on recent Huawei phones.
I would like to know how will they continue to build their ecosystem compared to Android. Also, what kind of alternatives they are willing to support for the users to load other roms in case their solution does not live up to expectations.
I want to see a live Harmony OS mobile device along with Huawei taking on Android in a big way..
I would like to see what will happen with unlocking bootloader in future huawei phones.
Official use of custom ROMs
I would like to see Huawei find a way for us to officially use custom ROMs without root (since they Don't use gms) as a way to attract geeks and provide a truly brilliant software experience with the truly amazing hardware experience. Imagine that
I would like to see if Huawei have any plan to enter the recent craze of gaming phones and how they would support gaming phones with their new HMS Core 5.0, HarmonyOS and EMUI 11. Also, what kind of flexibility and dev-friendly commitments they will offer to the developers compared to their rivals while building apps on AppGallery platform.
I would like see Tablet Edition OS based on EMUI or Harmony OS and at least software update support for three years.
New Huawei OS
I would like to know what Huawei does different from Google and Apple ecosystems, that would make it unique to me to use it over them? What will you bring to the table that will make us jump to that bandwagon?
In addition to everything described I would like to know about the strategy for saving game data in the cloud, participating in early access or beta testing apps, improving developer feedback by encouraging developer efforts.
I want to see the launch of Harmony OS in some Huawei Smartphones and more investment in the AppGallery
I am expecting a better support in software upgradation. atleast for 3 years.
I'm waiting for harmony os
I would like to know more about the apps that I would have to use instead of the google apps/android ecosystem and how it would change my cellphone experience.
Would love to see Harmony and the new ecosystem Huawei is trying to create. Also, for how long are they going to support it, so we don't have to purchase new devices for new updates or whether they would allow custom mods to be made easily.
I'd like Huawei to announce they will support bootloader unlocks so that we can develop custom Android ROMS for them and port alternative OSes like UBports and postmarketOS to them.
Given the current situation, I would like to know what steps Huawei is taking to ensure they have as many of the mainstream apps as possible on their app store.
I would like to know how Huawei could possibly give developers more rights, like bootloader unlocking. I would love to see us being able to install play services or microG whenever necessary, without strange "backups".
However, it would be nice to know if Huawei could free Android a bit more, as many features became proprietary in the last years with google. Who needs open source android when almost every app needs to rely on non-standarized proprietary services?
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