Well, it looks like Samsung finally managed to do what it has been trying to do for a painfully long time — the Korean manufacturer has made its first Tizen-powered phone official. Called the Samsung Z, the phone features a 4.8-inch Super AMOLED display of 1280×720 resolution and is powered a quad-core 2.3GHz processor (most like a Snapdragon 800), and runs on version 2.2.1 of Tizen. The Z comes with a new look that should come as a breath of fresh air for those who have gotten bored of Samsung’s design language on Android devices (let’s face it, who hasn’t?), though the overall design seems to be along the same lines as the company’s previous efforts.
The Samsung Z also sports a fingerprint and heart rate sensor and comes with features such as Download Booster and Ultra Power Saving Mode, things that debuted on the Galaxy S5. The hardware specs include 2GB of RAM, an 8-megapixel camera with the usual camera modes that we’ve seen on Samsung’s Android phones (and a 2.1-megapixel front-facing camera), 16GB of internal storage and a microSD slot, connectivity features including LTE-A, NFC and an IR sensor, and a 2,600 mAh battery. It’s basically a mix of the previous three Galaxy S flagships, and for a first device with a new OS, doesn’t really have anything impressive or different to offer.
Source : http://www.sammobile.com/2014/06/02/samsung-finally-launches-its-first-tizen-phone-the-samsung-z/
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/2/5771302/samsung-hedges-android-bet-with-first-tizen-phone
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Hmm..
Well, the specs are good, no doubt in that. But, when it comes down to software, never believe in samsung, coz they ain't good in that field. After bada, I ain't trying anything that comes out from the software kitchen of samsung. Although, the ability to run android apps is a relief.
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By the look of it, it looks like they took a lot of "design inspiration" from the Sony Xperia Series.
...fingerprint and heart rate sensor...
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Absolute no go for me.
The Z will launch in Russia in Q3 and expand to other markets later on, and will also be showcased at Samsung’s Tizen developer conference on June 3rd. However, as Samsung has said in the past, don’t expect to see any Tizen phone in the US and some European markets,..
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In my opinion... Q4...
Christmas time...
So waiting not end...
Best Regards
Looks like almost Galaxy S5 specs but Camera fail with 8mpx
... and here is Samsung Z
and Samsung Z was introduced officially in TDC San Fransisco
Samsung Launch Tizen Z and other devices in Tizen Developer Conference 2014
In Tizen Developer Conference 2014 keynote (TDCSF14) today in San Francisco, Dr.. Jong-Deok Choi (JD Choi), Executive Vice President (VP) of Samsung Electronics Software R & D Center (SWC) and co-Chair of the Tizen Technical Steering Group (TSG), and colleagues Imad SouSou from Intel, introduced the smartphone Tizen first Samsung Z Tizen and other products to the audience.
According to VP Choi, Samsung Z is waiting for an answer from almost 3 years Tizen smartphone presence in the market. Therefore, VP Choi said that Samsung Z will be available in the market in the not too distant future in Russia and other countries. Samsung Z carries the latest smartphone features like that of the latest such S5 Galaxy S Health, fingerprint sensor, heart rate monitor and ultra power saving mode.
Here you can see a video introduction of the Samsung Z and the features it carries.
To commemorate the release of the Samsung Z in Russia, Samsung held a contest for application developers Tizen Russia Challenge app for Samsung Z and Gear 2 with each prize $ 200 thousand for 11 winners.
For Tizen Store itself, application developers who sell applications through the app store will get 100% profit from their application, and no charge for registration and submission of applications.
Participants can try TDCSF14 Samsung Z and Gear 2 in the booth that has been provided, a long table shaped letter Z. Here is a video hands-on Samsung Z in TDSCF14.
In addition to Samsung Z, also introduced the Samsung TV and also project-based Tizen Open Smart Home-based Tizen OS. Tizen Samsung TV using a curved OLED display with dimensions of 65-inches.
Based on the latest roadmap, Tizen 3.0 not to be present in 2014. Tizen Tizen Mobile will still use 2.x until the end of the year, where Tizen Tizen Wearable TV and will also follow. While IVI and Tizen Tizen using the Tizen 3.0 Common already, although not the final version.
After Tizen Developer Conference 2014, the upcoming event is Tizen Developer Summit 2014 will be held in Shanghai, China, in October 2014. CFP (Call for Papers) have also been opened.
Source : http://tizenindonesia.blogspot.com/2014/06/peluncuran-samsung-z-dan-perangkat.html
Another video of Samsung Z SM-Z910F
I have not seen all Videos... because absolute nogo for me.
I don't need Fingerprint Scanner...
I hope this shi. is not in all Samsung handsets...
Here at 30 seconds +... you can see Qualcomm label...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRfhpo6TsKc
I hope "soon" somewhere Firmware leak... :cyclops:
In this Video short visible content of Tizen Store...
Best Regards
Tizen open sourse or closed.
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nisu4717 said:
Tizen open sourse or closed.
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Open Source
hero355 said:
Open Source
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Can you give me link and compiling guide
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nisu4717 said:
Can you give me link and compiling guide
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https://source.tizen.org/
https://twitter.com/karlpro/status/473605851660304384
Code:
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Tizen 2.2; [B]SAMSUNG SM-Z910F[/B]) AppleWebKit/537.3 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/2.2 Mobile Safari/537.3
Not sure if correct...
Best Regards
Edit 1.
Btw...
Somebody saw Video or Picture or Info for Tizen Version on Z?
Tizen 2.2
Edit 2...
Found info...
http://www.tizenexperts.com/2014/06...msungs-first-tizen-based-smartphone-sm-z910f/
Harhar... 2.2.1 is very old... so once more question why it took soooo long...
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@hero355
Maybe we could now try again to enter Demo Store?
SM-Z910F
or maybe now SM-Z9005 deliver something...
Will test next days with Kona...
@adfree but what we will gain in demo store anymore
New Tizen phone : zEQ docomo SC-03F
http://tizenindonesia.blogspot.com/2014/06/inilah-docomo-zeq-sc-03f-smartphone.html
New Tizen phone : zEQ docomo SC-03F
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This is not new... this is old and maybe allready obsolete...
Only FCC have short term confidential blabla...
For SM-Z910F "soooooon" also external + internal Pics + some additional crax visible on FCC... in december 2014...
Maybe long time before we see Tizen smartphoneS for endusers...
but what we will gain in demo store anymore
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Not sure what you mean...
But I mean Kona App... also access Android stuff...
I have short tested few combinations but failed to enter Tizen store...
Maybe after 1. july more luck...
Best Regards
Samsung Z unpacked Moscow 10 july : http://tizenindonesia.blogspot.com/2014/06/samsung-z-unpacked-10-juli-2014-di.html
Okidoki...
http://samsungdev.ru/#program
We can also find news about Tizen Store maybe more after 10. July
Maybe we should check this site after 1. July more:
http://www.tizenstore.com/
Or after 10. July.
Or after 10 July 2015.
Best Regards
As info...
http://seller.tizenstore.com/product/promotion/sellerPromotion.as
About RTL...
http://developer.samsung.com/remotetestlab/rtlDeviceList.action#
Since few days I can see US Server for Tizen RD-PQ...
But now I can not see India and Poland Server...
Is this my PC...
Best Regards
Edit 1.
Added Screenshots... few days ago...
No I can see only UK, US and Korea Server...
Poland and India is not visible for me...
Maybe after 10 July maybe they add Z to RTL...
I think it is time for Z to have chance to test...
RD-PQ seems too old (Firmware) and maybe obsolete... as reference
Edit 2.
Sorry, wrong thread...
While checking I found this URL -
which claims that Android 9.0 update has been rolled out to few test users in China (closed beta group) which indicates we may soon expect the Android 9 hitting a stable release in China followed by global release.
Highlight from GizChina article-
president of Huawei’s mobile phone product line, He Gang, revealed that Huawei Mate 10 Pro, Huawei P20, Honor 10, and Honor V10 models have simultaneously started Android 9 Pie beta testing. He further stated that Huawei’s engineers are already working hard to perfect the system.
According to Huawei’s pollen club’s announcement, the above-mentioned models pushed an internal test version to a small number of pollen users on August 6. The official internal testing recruitment activities for the majority of pollen users will commence as soon as the update is ready.
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According to Google, the new Android 9 Pie has two major upgrades. The first is its support for the recently popularized notch. In the developer mode, the Android 9 Pie system can simulate the notch and optimize the notification bar.
Secondly, the system efficiency is optimized which means that Android 9 Pie takes a shorter time to launch apps and the overall performance is better. At the same time, Android 9 Pie also displays the idle applications using the phone microphone, camera, and other sensors. The security of Android 9 Pie is better than the previous versions.
I found the similar article on GSM Arena: https://m.gsmarena.com/four_huawei_...ing_tested_with_android_90_pie-news-32670.php
I'm really satisfied with these news. Can't wait for the update, although it'll take a while. ?
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
ciew said:
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
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Maybe they'll skip 8.1 and go for 9.0 directly?
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ciew said:
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
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Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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KOLIOSIS said:
Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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The European Version of Honor view 10 is still on 8.0, on July Patch. Doesn't matter as im still on May patch because Huawei cant push out a ****ing patch to my phone for no god damn reason
Danfenn said:
The European Version of Honor view 10 is still on 8.0, on July Patch. Doesn't matter as im still on May patch because Huawei cant push out a ****ing patch to my phone for no god damn reason
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Is that EMUI 8.0 or Android 8.0
Just asking because the version I have (BKL-L04) has EMUI 8.0,but,is on Android 8.1:
That's Android 8.1 but you have the AMERICAN MODEL, The European version doesn't have android 8.1,
Notice your model is t C567 but mine is c430 which is the Europe version
Danfenn said:
That's Android 8.1 but you have the AMERICAN MODEL, The European version doesn't have android 8.1,
Notice your model is t C567 but mine is c430 which is the Europe version
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Yeah,I get that,was just checking that we were talking about the version of Android,not the version of EMUI.
I'm in agreement 100%,there is absolutely no reason for the fragmentation of Android versions on what is virtually the same exact phone.
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Yeah,I get that,was just checking that we were talking about the version of Android,not the version of EMUI.
I'm in agreement 100%,there is absolutely no reason for the fragmentation of Android versions on what is virtually the same exact phone.
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As far as Huawei / Honor is concerned, EMUI 8 has most changes found in Android 8.1 and also the Co. views the incremental updates as a major update. Their phones get two major Android updates and all phones released in 2018, whether with Android 8.0 or 8.1 would directly be updated to Android 9
iamsabresh said:
As far as Huawei / Honor is concerned, EMUI 8 has most changes found in Android 8.1 and also the Co. views the incremental updates as a major update. Their phones get two major Android updates and all phones released in 2018, whether with Android 8.0 or 8.1 would directly be updated to Android 9
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That may be true,but,it still doesn't explain why the European version is on Android 8.0 & the NA version is on Android 8.1.
It may not matter to you,but,right or wrong,it matters to the end user.
Why give the impression that Huawei values some regions over others,especially on the same device?
It leaves a bad taste in the mouth & may cause some current owners to look elsewhere for their next phone purchase.
Especially w/Huawei's recent climb in market share,it also gives the impression that they don't have to worry about how the end user thinks or feels about their phone.
Along w/the recent policy change regarding the bootloader unlock,those are two areas of great concern to perhaps a small,but,very vocal community of users.......just something to think about.....
While I'm satisfied w/my Honor View 10,I can state it's the last Huawei device I purchase,unless Huawei changes their stance on locked bootloaders................
KOLIOSIS said:
That may be true,but,it still doesn't explain why the European version is on Android 8.0 & the NA version is on Android 8.1.
It may not matter to you,but,right or wrong,it matters to the end user.
Why give the impression that Huawei values some regions over others,especially on the same device?
It leaves a bad taste in the mouth & may cause some current owners to look elsewhere for their next phone purchase.
Especially w/Huawei's recent climb in market share,it also gives the impression that they don't have to worry about how the end user thinks or feels about their phone.
Along w/the recent policy change regarding the bootloader unlock,those are two areas of great concern to perhaps a small,but,very vocal community of users.......just something to think about.....
While I'm satisfied w/my Honor View 10,I can state it's the last Huawei device I purchase,unless Huawei changes their stance on locked bootloaders................
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I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei. Regarding them releasing the same device with different android versions in different markets, it poses an issue only to a small group of people and I agree that it is wrong to other users, but we've been complaining about different regional firmware on Huawei devices since EMUI 4, but they have only turned a cold shoulder. A single international firmware (apart from their Chinese one) would help in faster software updates to all devices.
iamsabresh said:
I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei. Regarding them releasing the same device with different android versions in different markets, it poses an issue only to a small group of people and I agree that it is wrong to other users, but we've been complaining about different regional firmware on Huawei devices since EMUI 4, but they have only turned a cold shoulder. A single international firmware (apart from their Chinese one) would help in faster software updates to all devices.
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Your last statement is the head-scratcher(as to why there's not a universal Int'l firmware...................admittedly,Huawei isn't alone here,other mfgs are guilty of the same practice.
If the carriers are involved,as in the US,with their own bloat/etc....... I have to give 'em (Huawei & others) the benefit of the doubt.
If I could disable & re-enable Phone Manager at will w/o root,or,any other system apps (ADB allows for removal,but,a factory reset is needed to bring it back),I could forgo root on this phone.....
EMUI 4,I guess that goes back a ways,LOL,I had a long gap between Huawei Devices : OG Huawei Ascend m860 w/CM7 & some of the more current Huawei/Honor devices.
Have a great weekend! :good:
KOLIOSIS said:
Your last statement is the head-scratcher(as to why there's not a universal Int'l firmware...................admittedly,Huawei isn't alone here,other mfgs are guilty of the same practice.
If the carriers are involved,as in the US,with their own bloat/etc....... I have to give 'em (Huawei & others) the benefit of the doubt.
If I could disable & re-enable Phone Manager at will w/o root,or,any other system apps (ADB allows for removal,but,a factory reset is needed to bring it back),I could forgo root on this phone.....
EMUI 4,I guess that goes back a ways,LOL,I had a long gap between Huawei Devices : OG Huawei Ascend m860 w/CM7 & some of the more current Huawei/Honor devices.
Have a great weekend! :good:
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I really don't get Carrier based devices as the specific distribution channel really doesn't work well in Asian markets (I'm from India). I'd really wish if Huawei / Honor took the Oneplus route with a single firmware internationally. Oneplus beats Huawei / Honor in terms of software update reputation mainly because of their ease of updating their devices worldwide. I'd also like to get an android one version of Honor flagships. That'd be great, don't you think?
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I really don't get Carrier based devices as the specific distribution channel really doesn't work well in Asian markets (I'm from India). I'd really wish if Huawei / Honor took the Oneplus route with a single firmware internationally. Oneplus beats Huawei / Honor in terms of software update reputation mainly because of their ease of updating their devices worldwide. I'd also like to get an android one version of Honor flagships. That'd be great, don't you think?
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Now you're talkin', I'd get an Android One Huawei device, with or without root.
I had the Xiaomi Mi A1, that was a nice phone, especially at the price point. :good:
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Masinac85 said:
I found the similar article on GSM Arena: https://m.gsmarena.com/four_huawei_...ing_tested_with_android_90_pie-news-32670.php
I'm really satisfied with these news. Can't wait for the update, although it'll take a while. ?
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Yeah but unfortunately i can't unlock bootloader and debrand to China to use Pie early and will have to wait for update to release for other regions
KOLIOSIS said:
Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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Only US on EMUI/android 8.1 (haven't heard of China yet) but others are still on 8.0
KOLIOSIS said:
Is that EMUI 8.0 or Android 8.0
Just asking because the version I have (BKL-L04) has EMUI 8.0,but,is on Android 8.1:
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US model was released late directly with 8.1
iamsabresh said:
I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei.
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I wonder why you and other people thinks bootloader unlocking has something to do with the US and EU security concerns, when it should be the other way around.
If you think about it, it's the other way around, meaning that with an unlockable bootloader, security researchers, NSA, CIA, you name it, could investigate on what's happening under the hood, while with a locked bootloader all this it's very hard to crack.
US was never concerned about Huawei devices being easy to crack because their bootloader can be unlocked, but their concerns were about China spying on US citizens, government, etc. Same goes with EU.
What would help Huawei, is open sourcing their chipset, being more transparent to the eye of the security researchers and developers, not closing their system even more.
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Only US on EMUI/android 8.1 (haven't heard of China yet) but others are still on 8.0
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Your comment hammers home my point,the phone was released elsewhere 1st & stands to reason that earlier adopters would have 8.1 before the newer regions.
The explanation given earlier ,that the latest EMUI has all the features of Android 8.1,regardless of which version of Android you're running,is illogical.
If that's the case,then why would Huawei bother with an updated version of Android on one region & not others.
It's crazy,so,that is why one with a model running Android 8.1 would make the assumption the other regions are on the same version......
Yes,I'm sure it's been discussed here in other threads & I've missed that discrepancy,obviously,until now.
I have no complaints w/the phone,one of the best overall I've owned,especially with the price of admission,so,I haven't had the need to read every thread & response.......
Hey Guys,
I opened a thread in the offical Huawei Forum in order to try to push a little the better implementation of the camera 2 api. I know chances are low, but if there is enough feedback and participation in the discussion maybe there is a chance for change. So please feel free to contribute to the thread and also share it if you are interested in better camera 2 api implementation.
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/community/details/?topicId=6790&showBread=1
Cheers
Maybe also support these for a smarter camera app:
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/community/details/?topicId=6918
https://uk.community.huawei.com/ask...support-for-camera-api-2-and-camera-hal3-4267
https://uk.community.huawei.com/ask...hutter-but-minimal-shutter-speed-to-keep-4079
nurps said:
Maybe also support these for a smarter camera app:
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/community/details/?topicId=6918
https://uk.community.huawei.com/ask...support-for-camera-api-2-and-camera-hal3-4267
https://uk.community.huawei.com/ask...hutter-but-minimal-shutter-speed-to-keep-4079
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Thank you for sharing the links and for the support. I know the chances are low that this is going to change something but maybe huawei pays some attention to the community...
I don't know how much this will really matter in the recent light of the huawei ban, but we received an answer regarding the Camera2api implementation in the forums.
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/community/details/?topicId=6790&showBread=1
Lets hope that the noise made about this topic is enough to maybe move something a a better direction.
Huawei doesn‘t care, I bet. At least Lightroom can shoot HDR DNG with the ultra wide cam...
I wanted to make a comment about this. I just bought the p30 pro here in China. I have been waiting for the emui 10 update. But, I also found on Huawei's website the Huawei Camerakit, which it says encapsulates the Google camera2 API. It requires Android studio version 3.0.1 or later, a Kirin 970 or later, and emui 8.1.0 or later... Wouldn't this mean a developer like the people on here could implement it? Link is developer.huawei.com/consumer/en/Camerakit.
I am hoping you all have an explanation/some enlightenment!
P30 Lite specification
Could anybody share Camera2 API Prob results here for Huawei P30 Lite?