I really need to know if various ported Google camera apps works well for this phone. As in you can continuously take photos without the app lagging or run into issues.
I used to have an LG G6 and it worked great with Gcam. Now I have a V35 and Gcam works terrible for it, I've tried all the different dev version and it's all the same. Gcam would take the first two photos fine, then the third time onward it would become jerky while taking photo and taking 3 times as long to finish the shot (6+ seconds). Bottom line is the G6 takes better photos than my V35 because of this.
I am on the fence about buying a new Pixel 3a or used Pixel 3 just for the camera alone. But I've been concerned about Google quality control and how well the hardware will last. I've read so many hardware issues with the Pixel 1 and 2 so I don't even want to touch them. So I'm considering giving the V30 a try, but I really need that Gcam working well. I don't mind owning another LG phone as I love the quadDAC.
eksasol said:
I really need to know if various ported Google camera apps works well for this phone. As in you can continuously take photos without the app lagging or run into issues.
I used to have an LG G6 and it worked great with Gcam. Now I have a V35 and Gcam works terrible for it, I've tried all the different dev version and it's all the same. Gcam would take the first two photos fine, then the third time onward it would become jerky while taking photo and taking 3 times as long to finish the shot (6+ seconds). Bottom line is the G6 takes better photos than my V35 because of this.
I am on the fence about buying a new Pixel 3a or used Pixel 3 just for the camera alone. But I've been concerned about Google quality control and how well the hardware will last. I've read so many hardware issues with the Pixel 1 and 2 so I don't even want to touch them. So I'm considering giving the V30 a try, but I really need that Gcam working well. I don't mind owning another LG phone as I love the quadDAC.
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For LG V30, especially on most recent firmware, stock LG cam works well. One of the major requests for custom ROMs is to somehow get LG stock cam back.
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I don't mind owning another LG phone as I love the quadDAC.
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The Gcam ports I've tried are really best used for 1) night sight (long processing time for ea pic) 2) rear camera enhanced plus - but only 1 shot at a time.
The ports are simply not perfect. They don't work as well as the regular LG cam app - except in the cases already mentioned.
That said, I think it really comes down to what your needs are. For me, having both apps installed works very well (just use whichever is appropriate for the situation). But if you believe the GCam app (on a google phone) would be that much better re fast multiple shots, then that would have to be your choice.
Lastly, it's *possible* the next version of Pixel phones has a dual rear lens. That would change things quite a bit I think, as the GCam ports of that app would then probably be more likely to be fully functional.
This is a night sight pic with the 'No Hex' version of the Gcam ports, taken at about 4am, notice the black sky...
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My wife's old iphone 4 seems to take way better low light pics and video (HAM2 camera is jittery when taking low-light video, not smooth at all) Are there any camera tweaks to be done? any settings to change? Thanks!
The B148 update supposedly helped a bit, but I haven't tested it yet. But if you've already updated, I'm afraid there's not much else to do.
Phones like ours are cheap for a reason, meaning they have to be "bad" somewhere. Cameras are never good on Androids of this price range.
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The B148 update supposedly helped a bit, but I haven't tested it yet. But if you've already updated, I'm afraid there's not much else to do.
Phones like ours are cheap for a reason, meaning they have to be "bad" somewhere. Cameras are never good on Androids of this price range.
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That's cool, I understand. I guess the majority of pics & videos happen outside in the light anyway. Thanks. p.s. I figured out how to silence the camera and video camera sounds using ES file manager, so that's good.
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That's cool, I understand. I guess the majority of pics & videos happen outside in the light anyway. Thanks. p.s. I figured out how to silence the camera and video camera sounds using ES file manager, so that's good.
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Ooh cool, mind sharing?
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Ooh cool, mind sharing?
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Sure. I followed this link and scrolled to the bottom where it talks about rooted devices. You're basically just adding a small addendum to the camera sound file names in the system. Works for me, but who knows what the long-term effects will be. Do this at your own risk, I take no responsibility for your actions. Do not do this if it is illegal in your country, check your laws.
Some third-party camera apps will give you additional options, like higher ISO, that are not available in the stock Huawei camera. lgCamera has been mentioned in another thread here. I'm partial to OpenCamera. Paid options like A Better Camera provide additional modes. But even with all these options, I think the limiting factor for low-light photography with the HAM2 is focus. It becomes very uncertain in anything less than bright light.
Sweet, it works! You should make a thread for it, I reckon.
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Sweet, it works! You should make a thread for it, I reckon.
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Will do.
I work sports leagues and tournaments and get a lot of teams asking me to take their picture. Sadly, it seems that ANY iPhone takes better pictures than anything I've dragged out there. In order of my use- Optimus V, Samsung S2, Note 2, and a Nokia 520; also a few small tablets, usually wrapped up on the beach so no pictures there.
Once I realized that the HAM2's camera software doesn't allow flash when in HDR mode, I began looking at other camera software on Google Play. I recently bought Open Camera. It has so many more options, including flash when in HDR mode and a night mode. Here are photos taken on a walk today taken in HDR mode with the phone software and Open Camera.
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I'll get some photos in night mode over the weekend and post them.
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I love the look of AOSP. Unfortunately, LG does not release camera drivers so camera quality on AOSP is generally pretty terrible. Recently, I decided to forego my typical stock g3 port and try out CyanogenMod 12, and its actually really really good and stable (on vs980 anyways). The only problem was the horrendous camera quality. Lollipop was so good (especially with xposed support starting up) that I decoded I'd try to find a fix for my problem. First off, I noticed that Lollipop had a *bit better camera quality than kitkat AOSP. This was promising but nothing good. My og droid razer still took pictures just as good. I tried the typical apps... Cm11s camera (it had bugs...) AOSP camera was terrible, Google camera was a little better than AOSP but not much. Lenovo super camera.. Still not 100% stable. I didn't use those stock camera ports as none of them are stable and those aren't what this thread is about.
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I tried some play store offerings and almost gave up... But then I found something in the play store. "Open camera". Its free, open source, ad free, and somehow... It takes really good pictures and videos on AOSP on our phones.
When you open it you're greeted with a not-so-beautiful ui, but it has a lot of great features. HDR works also.. Which is nice. Actually, everything works.
The main gripe with the AOSP camera quality was low light performance. In open camera there's a ISO setting. Set the ISO to 1600 and you'll get great low light photos with little noise. You can of course use auto or higher ISO but noise will be a problem. But it is a problem on stock too at those ISO levels. Another thing I'd like to point out is that video recording is surprisingly good. No 4k yet unless your ROM supports it. The app itself supports it. Hopefully this can help someone who needs better pictures/videos on AOSP! ?
Note: I included a test shot. Keep in mind the room was illuminated by one nightstand light. It looks brighter in the picture than it does to the eyes. Even though there's noise in the picture, its multitudes better than other options
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Here's a Google camera shot for comparison. I drew a red "G" on the Google camera shot because I'm uploading this with tapatalk and I'm not sure if it will show the pics in order or not:
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Very nice post, already knew open camera since it's included in my rom, and yes it takes the better pics!
But I have to say that even thought this app goes deeply into settings, they could make some improvements to the UI...
Yes been using it for awhile
This UI is awful! Photos seem to be great though.
I've been using the Lenovo camera and it's been amazing. Ridiculously quick HDR shots.
Good morning to everyone. As I wrote yesterday, I prepared a mini photo quality comparison between rdn4 and LG G5.
Unfortunately I could not get out a lot of photos (I was in-laws in the village?))
But I was able to take off several mainly nearby.
I can say that many times the result surprised me!
Really worthy rdn4 standing against device wearing of the best cameras of 2016 !! (LG G5)
At the end I will do and link from google drive folder with the photos in their original quality.
I expect comments?)
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Good morning to everyone. As I wrote yesterday, I prepared a mini photo quality comparison between rdn4 and LG G5.
Unfortunately I could not get out a lot of photos (I was in-laws in the village?))
But I was able to take off several mainly nearby.
I can say that many times the result surprised me!
Really worthy rdn4 standing against device wearing of the best cameras of 2016 !! (LG G5)
At the end I will do and link from google drive folder with the photos in their original quality.
I expect comments?)
Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
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Can you upload the images directly? They look like they've been compressed, especially since it went through whatever editing software to write the models in.
LG G5 is classes above the Redmi series, they are not even comparable. Perhaps the real comparison would be between LG G5 and Xiaomi Mi5.
RN4 is a good phone indeed but it falls into the mid-range class.
dimi30 said:
Good morning to everyone. As I wrote yesterday, I prepared a mini photo quality comparison between rdn4 and LG G5.
Unfortunately I could not get out a lot of photos (I was in-laws in the village?))
But I was able to take off several mainly nearby.
I can say that many times the result surprised me!
Really worthy rdn4 standing against device wearing of the best cameras of 2016 !! (LG G5)
At the end I will do and link from google drive folder with the photos in their original quality.
I expect comments?)
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6lDlpRDegOCYlg2bVpnN0g5Sms
Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
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Thanks for the great comparison! It really highlights the real world camera performance difference in less than ideal (mostly low light, which the G5 is well equipped to handle) conditions. The Redmi 4 does well for its price, but it really is miles behind in terms of detail (extremely soft photos), its white balance is off but at least noise is kept to acceptable levels. It's camera algorithms are surprisingly mature, showing less oversharpening and fringing than the G5 and that considering it had to work a lot harder trying to retain detail with that poor sensor and lens. Can you do a follow-up review in good light?
Looks like The G5 has a better camera. Bad news :/
I have a Redmi Note 4 and the camera is decent, not not very good.
In low light condition it is even worst...
All the Redmi pictures have a horrible yellow tint. Plus the lack of OIS makes the pictures blurry - especially the one with the potted plant
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Good quality pictures
for the ones that needs extreme level of sharpness in images, i consider this good
Hello.
Now my turn. Ill just post pictures.
Redmi Note 4 - RR - OpenCamera on STD
https://allthepics.net/image/lWPSY
Redmi Note 4 - RR - GCamMod - STD
https://allthepics.net/image/lWvrB
My old device in a similar price point: ASUS ZE500KL - to compare devices: https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8531&idPhone2=7474#global,*,*]
https://allthepics.net/image/lWpJr
More mido shots available here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rosy30ihtfs3bmu/Camera-Test-NEVER-DELETE-FROM-DROPBOX-OR-DIE.zip?dl=0] - ACHTUNG DATA USERS - the file is almost 120 MB
Protips
On MIUI the camera quality is a bit better than on LineageOS based roms.
If You are really in the manual controls just for fun or not You will need to edit the build.prop file and that needs root.
The light sensor can suffer gratefully in low light conditions generating a lot of noise.
If Your goal is to get the best pictures in the World of mobiles eg. visible every single snowflake in mid air without smudges => get a DSLR camera and a phone.
The stutter is pretty much responsive there is almost no lag when pressing the shot button
great photos!
Camera quality is excellent with Google Camera with AutoHDR+.
Quality is comparable with my entry-level 10 years old compact camera when shot in raw. Not the best camera in the market but more than enough for average usage.
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Quality is comparable with my entry-level 10 years old compact camera when shot in raw. Not the best camera in the market but more than enough for average usage.
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Does note 4 support RAW mode?
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Does note 4 support RAW mode?
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Only if you unlock the bootloader and add camera2api support on build.prop or mods
My note 4x front camera is significantly worse than my friends note 4x camera
It's really noticable
Any way to fix this?
I am rooted and have twrp installed
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There is still no solution (Redmi Note 4X). Oreo will probably not be. In vain, the camera2api works, Gcam is not good. [emoji849][emoji848][emoji2955]
Tapatalkkal Redmi Note 4X
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There is still no solution (Redmi Note 4X). Oreo will probably not be. In vain, the camera2api works, Gcam is not good. [emoji849][emoji848][emoji2955]
Tapatalkkal Redmi Note 4X
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That's what custom ROMs are for. We have Oreo and Pie (in early stage) and perfectly working GCams which makes our camera a lot better than on MIUI
GCam port by BSG produce very good quality photos with HDR+ mode. No lag while taking snap.
I have using my device for more than 3 years now. I mostly use it for communicating over chat apps and media consumption. I have been using various builds of LineageOS (official and unoffical) after the first year of purchase. But more importantly, Gcam has been with me even before that. I started using Gcam mods like that of BSG's 5.* during early years of development.
After coming long way now, the mods are mostly stable and all the included features works flawlessly (keeping in mind the device specific restrictions). The first thing after setting up my device after installing a new custom ROM (or upgrading) I do is install Gcam mod without doing anything else.
Anyone else not satisfied with the camera?
I already took a great shot but most of them just feel soft and not sharp at all!
A lot of noise as well when zooming in.
I'm quite shocked as my OnePlus 3 takes better pictures (GCam).
The selfie cam is the worst. On OP3 I can basically see all of my skins pores, beard hair etc.
On the mate it's just soft(no matter the setting).
I'm on firmware 122 btw.
Would be good to know if that's just my taste or a wrong setting maybe?
Thanks!
In general:
Very satisified with the back camera.
But the selfiecam is kind of 'boring'.
You should provide pics to make your case as the question is so broad and the answers are so many.
Took a few pics today and really impressed with the back camera. The front camera isn't great and beautifies every image and looks soft. Hopefully a software update could fix this. Came from a pixel 2 which I think are the ones to beat at moment for camera phones.
Back camera is really great. In selfie camera there is an option to switch off beauty mode. Try with that option and you will get better selfies than Samsung Galaxy flagships.
I just posted to a similar thread over in news aand discussion.....
I too am disappointed with the M20 pro camera, mostly indoors in not so good (but hardly terrible) light the images are really quite soft
Looking at the exif it always seems to choose a really low shutter speed and as others have said no OIS on the main camera. Like I said disappointing, I am on .238, no idea if there are any camera improvements to come on .266 or 9.1?
Light can change your thoughts
Yes the mate 20p camera tends to take soft and sometimes blurry photos. I blame the lack of OIS.
With a little extra effort you can take awesome photos, but for point and shoot many other phones do that better.
I just moved from op3 to mate 20 pro, principally for the camera and... I'm disappointed, my ops3 photo's with gcam are a lot better! All photos in middle light (and hdr condition) look like they are painted!
I tried to make some side by died) side comparison and one plus 3 photos are better in everything
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I just moved from op3 to mate 20 pro, principally for the camera and... I'm disappointed, my ops3 photo's with gcam are a lot better! All photos in middle light (and hdr condition) look like they are painted!
I tried to make some side by died) side comparison and one plus 3 photos are better in everything
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Lol I wouldn't buy this for a minute. Must be you or your settings
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Lol I wouldn't buy this for a minute. Must be you or your settings
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Me is not possibile, I was keeping one phone in a hand and the other one in the other, setting i don't know maybe.. M but I just opened the camera and chosen hdr..., have you some setting to suggest?
Some photos are good but others no..., color are a little bit more ok and grass looks painted
Now in no more at home, this weekend I'm coming to post some comparisons if needed
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Me is not possibile, I was keeping one phone in a hand and the other one in the other, setting i don't know maybe.. M but I just opened the camera and chosen hdr..., have you some setting to suggest?
Some photos are good but others no..., color are a little bit more ok and grass looks painted
Now in no more at home, this weekend I'm coming to post some comparisons if needed
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Are you using vivid mode? Try turning that to standard
I'm very satisfied with the camera, I think this is all about setting, not the camera or the phone.
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Are you using vivid mode? Try turning that to standard
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I tried that setting but it doesn't look to influence the "painted effect"
This weekend on going to make a more detailed test and on case I'm going to post some photos
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I tried that setting but it doesn't look to influence the "painted effect"
This weekend on going to make a more detailed test and on case I'm going to post some photos
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Turn off AI maybe. Honestly if you're trying to tell us one of the best rated phone cameras of all time gets bested by one of the most mediocre, you'd better have some valid evidence lol
My only gripe is the AI sometimes gets confused like when it thought this shot was winter and it changed the images completely
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My only gripe is the AI sometimes gets confused like when it thought this shot was winter and it changed the images completely
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That is a totally feasible complaint as I have had this happen as well. Sometimes AI is better off for certain shots for sure
That's why it is handy on the latest 9.1 update to turn on and off without going into settings. You can also of course click the X when it detects what it think it is. I have had no issues with the camera in default mode and actually find it performs better after the last update, especially the transition when going to 3x zoom.
what bugs me is the "hold steady while camera sharpens the image".
Is there a way to avoid this?
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what bugs me is the "hold steady while camera sharpens the image".
Is there a way to avoid this?
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Nope, The phone is taking a auto hdr(thats even more extreme than the HDR mode btw) photo,generally it doesnt matter if you move or take another photo while the camera tells you that, i just ignore it.